Oh Terry Just off IP subject for one minute if I may - you may believe that you are not a technical wizard on the box but I bet you don't have to walk down the street with your head hanging low, simply because you are the only dumbo in the whole world who has had to admit defeat and return the transcribed fiches you were checking for the 1891 census. Oh such shame as we are currently experiencing, we scuttle around Tesco in two minutes flat, fingers pointing as we go, people whispering, saying - "there goes that couple who, shock horror, couldn't cope with the 1891 chekcens" We will never live it down. Put a pen and paper in my hand and I will help the 2009 jamboree with whatever I can - but please don't let it involve any software. Hazel (and a subdued Trevor)