Hi Terry, I am far from an expert on Switzers. I have a tree someone sent me once which lists the particular line I am connected to (I am not a direct descendent, only connected through Corneille and Armstrong) but I don't know anything else about them. I have looked over the material I have for a Jacob who would be about the right generation for yours, and couldn't see anyone likely. I'm so sorry that I can't help you with your research. The Switzer line I have a little info on emigrated about 1843 to St. Mary's area in Perth County, Ontario and were neighbours of my Armstrong ancestors, along with Sparlings, Shiers and Doupes. They farmed on the Mitchell Road in Blanshard Township there. Good luck with finding "your" Jacob. My Armstrong ancestors came from Co. Fermanagh. Could Castle Blainey be spelled "Blaney" ? Seems to me I've seen that on a list somewhere. Margot Jorgensen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 3:27 PM Subject: Re: [IP] A Switzer in my tree > Margot > You seem to be very knowledgeable about SWITZERS and I've only just > started looking at my Switzer branch. I wonder if you would happen to > know where Jacob Switzer fits in? He was father of 10 boys, the first > Benjamin was born in 1809 in Ireland. Jacob apparantly died in Ireland > but Benjamin emmigrated to Canada as a young man. A messenger was sent out > from Ireland to advise hism that he had inherited the family estate said to > consist of Castle Blainey but as it was entailed he said he did not want > it so it went to the next brother in line,probably John. > > I suspect that Jacob was married to Mary RUCKLE (RUTTLE) but have no proof > and cannot even find where Castle Blainey was but believe it was probably > in Limerick. > > Any clues? > Thanks > Terry Jackson in Oxfordshire, England > ----- Original Message ----- > From: margot jorgensen <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 4:48 AM > Subject: Re: [IP] A Switzer in my tree > > > > Rod - > > I think you are correct. Mrs. Ross gives names of John's brothers > Michael, > > James and Christopher, and sisters Mary Shier (who remained in Ireland) > Ann > > Cunningham and Barbara Conway. She says Ann and Barbara settled near > > Ottawa. She doesn't give details of their families. I checked another > > source but it just gives the name Ann as a sister married to Cunningham, > no > > further details. Mrs. Ross gives John's descent as follows: > > > > Michael, son of John Jacob Switzer and Anna Maria, and his wife Dorothea > and > > two sons to Ireland 1709. > > One son settled in Dublin, the other in Limerick and John Switzer traced > his > > lineage to the Limerick son who was the father of Adam Switzer. Adam's > wife > > was Barbara Delmage and they were the father and mother of John Switzer. > > > > My other source gives Johann Jacob Schweitzer b. 1658 and Anna Marie were > > parents of Michael Schweitzer b. 168l. > > He married Dorothea? and they were parents of > > Martin Switzer b. abt. 1712, d. abt 1787, married Mary Elizabeth? They > were > > the parents of Adam Switzer b. 1751, > > married Barbara Delmage who were parents of: > > > > Christopher b. 1776 m. Sarah ? > > Mary b. 1778 m. Shier > > John b. 16 Mar 1783 m. Agnes Corneille > > Ann b. ? m. Cunningham > > Barbara b. ? m. Conway > > James b. ? > > Michael b. ? > > Sorry I can't supply more, but would be happy to correspond further off > > list. I will be away for a couple of days. > > Margot Jorgensen > > > > > > > > ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list use the following: > > [email protected] > > Put either the word, subscribe, or unsubscribe in the subject line and > body of the message. > > > > > ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > List Administrator: > Susan Laursen Willig > [email protected] >

><<My Armstrong ancestors came from Co. Fermanagh. >Margot Jorgensen>> Hi, Margot - The reference to Armstrong from Fermanagh caught my attention. While I'm not an Armstrong descendant, some of my NOBLE ancestors from Fermanagh did intermarry with the Armstrongs - a lot! The NOBLE family immigrated from Co. Fermanagh to what is now Warren Co., NY, in the 1790's. They, and a large contingent of Armstrongs all settled in a very small town called Johnsburgh. All were devout Methodists, converted by John Wesley, as were many of the IPs. One of my Nobles, a Jane Noble, married one of the first IP Empey ancestors to come to the New World. That was back about 1795 or thereabouts. I've often wondered if the families had known one another in Ireland. The Empeys established themselves in Ashgrove, an IP settlement over in Washington Co., while the Nobles (and the Armstrongs) settled over in Johnsburgh. The two settlements were more than a day's ride apart back at then. There are still Armstrongs living in Johnsburgh and throughout Warren Co. at this time. Just an FYI and kind of curious. All the best, Susan

Hi Susan, My direct ancestor Johnston Armstrong was born in Lisrace, Co. Fermanagh as were his siblings in early 1800's. Their father, Maxwell, died there but can't find his marriage or birth, think he may have come from Brookesborough area, possibly son of "Sweeper" John Armstrong and Elizabeth Maxwell Buchanan, d. of Capt. James Buchanan. Their mother was Elizabeth Moore who I have been told is a daughter of Capt. James Moore, a descendent of the Moore family, Earls of Drogheda. Johnston married Clarinda Sparling in Ontario. Thomas, his brother, married Agnes Lucy Switzer (27 Sep 1847?), daughter of John Switzer and Agnes Corneille, and I am unsure whether this marriage took place in Ontario or in Limerick, as the Armstrong neighbours in Blanshard Township, Perth County, Ont. were IPs. Johnston was a devout Methodist. He joined the militia in Ontario immediately after emigrating ca. 1836 (was commissioned in 1856) so I am speculating that the Armstrongs were involved in the military in Ireland as well which might explain the marriages with women from other areas ? I'm very much a beginner with Irish research, so have more questions than answers !! Margot ----- Original Message ----- From: "SLWillig" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 4:52 AM Subject: [IP] Armstrongs re. A Switzer in my tree > > ><<My Armstrong ancestors came from Co. Fermanagh. > >Margot Jorgensen>> > > Hi, Margot - > > The reference to Armstrong from Fermanagh caught my attention. While I'm > not an Armstrong descendant, some of my NOBLE ancestors from Fermanagh did > intermarry with the Armstrongs - a lot! > > The NOBLE family immigrated from Co. Fermanagh to what is now Warren Co., > NY, in the 1790's. They, and a large contingent of Armstrongs all settled > in a very small town called Johnsburgh. All were devout Methodists, > converted by John Wesley, as were many of the IPs. > > One of my Nobles, a Jane Noble, married one of the first IP Empey ancestors > to come to the New World. That was back about 1795 or thereabouts. I've > often wondered if the families had known one another in Ireland. The Empeys > established themselves in Ashgrove, an IP settlement over in Washington > Co., while the Nobles (and the Armstrongs) settled over in Johnsburgh. The > two settlements were more than a day's ride apart back at then. > > There are still Armstrongs living in Johnsburgh and throughout Warren Co. > at this time. > > Just an FYI and kind of curious. > > All the best, > > Susan > > > ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > You can't plough a field merely by turning it over in your mind. >