Jacob Switzer could very well have fathered 10 children at that age, I have an uncle that fathered two sons in his 70's. It is only women that can't have children in their old age, men can father children at any age apparently.. lol When you start looking into family history it is a jumble at times. But fun to do if you don't mind the confusion. I should go to the library and find out if Ann Brandt's book is there,, what is the name of it again? Hope this clears up the confusion of Jacob fathering 10 children in his fifties, it can and does happen. Judy

Judy: I'm wondering if you have any information on my old Ruttle ancestors. Henry Ruttle (b. 1789 Ireland, d. 1836 Lanark, Ontario) was married to Catherine Breathour (b. 1794 Ireland, d. 1876 Lanark, Ontario). The family name was spelled Ruckle when they are listed at the Perth Settlement in 1816. They arrived with 3 young children, the oldest was Samuel (b.1813 in Ireland). Any information will be appreciated. I'm especially interested in ties to other Ruttle families and who might be the parents of Henry in Ireland. Thanks, Dave Lindsay --- Judy Lyn <judylyn@gosympatico.ca> wrote: > {snip} > Perhaps someone in the Ruttle line would know more > about them. > And we know thousands did come over but only around > 800 went to Ireland to settle on the Southwell > Estates. And as we are irish Palatines, I think > those are the ones we are most interested in. > Perhaps Mary Wallace could lend a hand here as she > recieved Royal Spears research when he died. > Maybe she has more information than most. > I can only give the information that I have > available and which I am only too ready to share > with anyone that wants it. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com

Judy, I could not get the music to play either, but like I told you before, your work is outstanding! Jeanne Fizell researching Bender, Trump, Hochthanner, Gruber, Buettner/Bittner, Jones, Schmidt, Scheidt,etc. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Berndt" <berndtj@sympatico.ca> To: <IRL-PALATINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 6:35 PM Subject: Re: [IP] keepsake Book > Judy -I am sure it is my computer. I will try again > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judy Lyn" <judylyn@gosympatico.ca> > To: <IRL-PALATINE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 7:08 PM > Subject: [IP] keepsake Book > > > > > > That's odd because I can get it to play. > > > > > > Judy > > > > > > ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > > Try to do little things in an extraordinary way. > > > > > > > ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > Great minds talk about ideas. Average minds talk about > events. Small minds talk about people. >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Berndt" <berndtj@sympatico.ca> To: <IRL-PALATINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [IP] keepsake Book > Judy -I am sure it is my computer. I will try again > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judy Lyn" <judylyn@gosympatico.ca> > To: <IRL-PALATINE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 7:08 PM > Subject: [IP] keepsake Book > > > > > > That's odd because I can get it to play. > > > > > > Judy > > > > > > ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > > Try to do little things in an extraordinary way. > > > > > > > ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > Great minds talk about ideas. Average minds talk about > events. Small minds talk about people. >

Greetings -- I honestly believe that someone can help me. I am looking for information regarding MICHAEL (Tusky) TESKEY, born 1811 in Ireland and died in 1908 in Vancouver, Manitoba, Canada. (Yes, he was 97 years old). He married Jane Metcalf; he would be the son of Michael Tusky (abt. 1772-1823) the husband of Ann ? (census in Quebec of 1825 calls her "Widow Tusky". She was born in 1782. Thank you for any leads or suggestions. Sincerely R. Paul Doherty

Judy -I am sure it is my computer. I will try again ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Lyn" <judylyn@gosympatico.ca> To: <IRL-PALATINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 7:08 PM Subject: [IP] keepsake Book > > That's odd because I can get it to play. > > > Judy > > > ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > Try to do little things in an extraordinary way. > >

That's odd because I can get it to play. Judy

Judy You did a fantastic job on the Embury page! I was unable to get the music though. Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Lyn" <judylyn@gosympatico.ca> To: <IRL-PALATINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 2:54 PM Subject: [IP] keepsake Book > > Have you see the embury page on the keepsake book, I have a nice history there and some pictures. > > www.geocities.com/keepsakebook > > click on embury,, > I have now added Irish music to all the pages I have done so far, ending with Lodwick, I think. > > Makes it a bit nicer.. > > Judy > > > ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > My folks didn't come over on the Mayflower, but > they were there to meet the boat. Will Rogers > >

Hello I wonder if you could please tell me where the information in your last paragraph came from Mary? This sounds like it could be 'my' Jacob SWITZER father of 10 sons who I beleive all, or most, emmigrated from Ireland to Canada. The eldest being Benjamin, my great great grandfather, born in 1809. It would be great if you confirm or disprove this to a some degree. Thanks in advance Terry Jackson in Oxfordshire Researching: Lancs - SMITH, MCDONNELL, HAYES Ches.- MCDONNELL, GARNER, HOOLEY Staffs.- GARNER Surrey - WILKINSON, CHANDLER, FRY, PARRATT, PUNTER, LITTLE, ARNOLD, BINFIELD Canada & Ireland -SWITZER, LAWRENCE, JACKMAN ----- Original Message ----- From: <Switzerdolmage@aol.com> To: <IRL-PALATINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [IP] Ann Brandt's book > Eula Lapp in To Their Heirs Forever says that Catherine, wife of Johan > Christopher Switzer of Court Matrix was a Ruckle. > > A Historical Sketch written by J. Holmes for the Ruckle-Switzer picnic in > 1925says in part: Mrs. Switzer [Catherine Ruckle Empey, daughter of Daniel son > of George] also says ----- that Grandfather Switzer [Jacob, husband of Mary > Ruckle] was second cousin of her father, Daniel Ruckle" > > Jacob Switzer born 1756 was a second cousin once removed of Daniel Ruckle and > is probably the Jacob who married Mary Ruckle. This Jacob was a grandson of > Johan Christopher Switzer. > > Mary > > > ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > Great minds talk about ideas. Average minds talk about > events. Small minds talk about people. > >

Have you see the embury page on the keepsake book, I have a nice history there and some pictures. www.geocities.com/keepsakebook click on embury,, I have now added Irish music to all the pages I have done so far, ending with Lodwick, I think. Makes it a bit nicer.. Judy

Eula Lapp in To Their Heirs Forever says that Catherine, wife of Johan Christopher Switzer of Court Matrix was a Ruckle. A Historical Sketch written by J. Holmes for the Ruckle-Switzer picnic in 1925says in part: Mrs. Switzer [Catherine Ruckle Empey, daughter of Daniel son of George] also says ----- that Grandfather Switzer [Jacob, husband of Mary Ruckle] was second cousin of her father, Daniel Ruckle" Jacob Switzer born 1756 was a second cousin once removed of Daniel Ruckle and is probably the Jacob who married Mary Ruckle. This Jacob was a grandson of Johan Christopher Switzer. Mary

Me too, my gr. gr. grandfather was Charles Doupe and he was married to Sarah Miller, who I believe was the daughter of John Miller Sr and Catherine his first wife. she would be my 3 X gr. grandmother. It just goes on and on doesn't it? Judy

Judy, you have been a help to me in trying to disentangle the web of Irish Palatines I am descended from. Please do not hesitate to give advice and information. I have been beating my head against a wall trying to go backwards with the Schweitzer line, looking into other German Schweitzers to see if I can find someone with a son named Johann Jacob, and have decided to work toward the future. So, I am now on the fourth generation from Johann Jacob, getting sidetracked constantly by Shiers and Dolmages and Emburys and Teskeys and Ruttles and the various incarnations of the names. What a tangled web we are descended from. Ah well, it certainly gives one something to do. Again, thankyou, and everyone else, for all the little bits of info I've gleaned from your postings. Take care, Paul Dicks >Well, since Caspar was listed as Age 49 in 1709, he could have had a 30 >year old son, the information I have does not give any dates of births for >the other children. >and you are right, no one knows for sure what happened then. >Sebastian and Margaret Embury had 8 children, one being Barbara Ruttle who >married Paul Heck. >A lot of dates are missing so it is hard to say. Perhaps someone in the >Ruttle line would know more about them. >And we know thousands did come over but only around 800 went to Ireland to >settle on the Southwell Estates. And as we are irish Palatines, I think >those are the ones we are most interested in. Perhaps Mary Wallace could >lend a hand here as she recieved Royal Spears research when he died. >Maybe she has more information than most. >I can only give the information that I have available and which I am only >too ready to share with anyone that wants it. >If it is wrong, I do apologize since it is Royal's research which he sent >me years ago. Things could have changed since then, and as he did not have >access to the internet perhaps a lot of things have come to light since >then. >Everyone has their own heritage and that is what they mostly work on, My >web page is proof of that,, as I dealt mostly with the Doupe's/Shier's, but >I am descending from a great many more, such as the Dolmage's, Switzer's, >Fitzelle's, Corneille's, etc. >I also have the Corneille's information and all who married into that >group, such as the Ruttles, Switzer's, Shier's and Doupe's. >I only gave you the information that was given me, I apologize if I have >given anyone the impression that it was gospel. >guess I should be more careful helping people in the future for fear I am >wrong, or the information I was given is wrong. > >Judy > > > > > > >==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== >Try to do little things in an extraordinary way. > _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines

Hi Judy, I was in touch with you last year re: my Embury roots. I am now putting to-gether a website for my Dad's 80th birthday and I have asked Moon& Back Graphics for permission to use some of their backgrounds but I am fairly new to computers & need advice as to how I can upload their sets to my site. Would you be able to advise me on how to do this? Your site is the nicest one I have seen & would like something similiar. Thank you in advance Judy. Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Lyn" <judylyn@gosympatico.ca> To: <IRL-PALATINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:37 PM Subject: Re: Re: [IP] keepsake Book > I found a few more backgrounds to continue the list on my keepsake book site on the palatines. Will be starting again tomorrow. I am slow at this but keep checking to see if your name has been added. > www.geocities.com/keepsakebook > I know I have the switzer information everyone is wanting but I can't locate it. Have most everyone else, but not that, lost it somehow, but it is here somewhere. > Judy > > > > ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > Oh, man! There is no planet, sun, or star could HOLD you, > If you but knew what you are! -- Ralph Waldo Emerson > >

Well, since Caspar was listed as Age 49 in 1709, he could have had a 30 year old son, the information I have does not give any dates of births for the other children. and you are right, no one knows for sure what happened then. Sebastian and Margaret Embury had 8 children, one being Barbara Ruttle who married Paul Heck. A lot of dates are missing so it is hard to say. Perhaps someone in the Ruttle line would know more about them. And we know thousands did come over but only around 800 went to Ireland to settle on the Southwell Estates. And as we are irish Palatines, I think those are the ones we are most interested in. Perhaps Mary Wallace could lend a hand here as she recieved Royal Spears research when he died. Maybe she has more information than most. I can only give the information that I have available and which I am only too ready to share with anyone that wants it. If it is wrong, I do apologize since it is Royal's research which he sent me years ago. Things could have changed since then, and as he did not have access to the internet perhaps a lot of things have come to light since then. Everyone has their own heritage and that is what they mostly work on, My web page is proof of that,, as I dealt mostly with the Doupe's/Shier's, but I am descending from a great many more, such as the Dolmage's, Switzer's, Fitzelle's, Corneille's, etc. I also have the Corneille's information and all who married into that group, such as the Ruttles, Switzer's, Shier's and Doupe's. I only gave you the information that was given me, I apologize if I have given anyone the impression that it was gospel. guess I should be more careful helping people in the future for fear I am wrong, or the information I was given is wrong. Judy

Thanks. petemiller@charter.net. Please try again. It should not kick it back unless there was a virus attached. If it does I will e-mail you my postal address directly. Pete Miller -----Original Message----- From: Switzerdolmage@aol.com [mailto:Switzerdolmage@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 7:40 PM To: IRL-PALATINE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IP] address needed Hi listers Some time ago there was a query from Peter Miller re Millers and Drews. I recently sent an email to his address but it has returned. If you read this, Peter, I have some information that might be helpful to you if I had an address. Mary Wallace ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== List Administrator: Susan Laursen Willig IRL-PALATINE-admin@rootsweb.com

I also have Millers in my line. Roland Young ----- Original Message ----- From: "petemiller" <petemiller@charter.net> To: <IRL-PALATINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 2:10 PM Subject: RE: [IP] address needed > Thanks. petemiller@charter.net. Please try again. It should not kick > it back unless there was a virus attached. If it does I will e-mail you > my postal address directly. > > Pete Miller > > -----Original Message----- > From: Switzerdolmage@aol.com [mailto:Switzerdolmage@aol.com] > Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 7:40 PM > To: IRL-PALATINE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IP] address needed > > Hi listers > > Some time ago there was a query from Peter Miller re Millers and Drews. > I > recently sent an email to his address but it has returned. If you read > this, > Peter, I have some information that might be helpful to you if I had an > address. > > Mary Wallace > > > ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > List Administrator: > Susan Laursen Willig > IRL-PALATINE-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > Try to do little things in an extraordinary way. > >

Hello Listers, Well, I too fall into the fairly new category of just discovering ancestors who were Irish Palatines. Prior, I had never heard of the term. My family were the Rinehart's of County Wexford. Rev. Peter Aaron Rinehart born July 11, 1672 in Switzerland and died in County Wexford, Ireland. He married Margareth Kupferschmied, born abt. 1676 in bern, Switzerland. Their son Ulrich Rinehart born Aug. 12, 1704 in Bern area , Emmigrated to America Aug. 28, 1733 and settled in Coventry, Chester co., Pa. Here they were very instrumental in establishing the Dunkard Sect or Country Brethern Church. Might there be anyone else working on this particular Rinehart family of Wexford? I do not believe they were related to the Rynehart family that also came to Ireland as Irish Palatines. Supposedly, Peter Aaron Rinehart was the son of Niklaus Rinehart who was the son of Andres Rinehart. I have reason to believe they too were Dunkards who left Switzerland because of religious persecution. Hope to Hear from Someone, Pat Uffenorde ( Issaquah, Wa. )

Everyone discussing Caspar Ruckle, can I interject a note of caution as Henry Z. Jones does when he says: "The emigrant may be the "Kasper Rutsel" recorded with his wife and 1 child in the 6th party of Palatines in Holland in 1709 (Rotterdam Lists): or he may have bee the "Kasper Rigell" registered with his wife and 1 child in the 3rd party in Holland that year (Rotterdam Lists)." Namely, WE DON'T KNOW which is Caspar Ruckle -- if either one is. In fact, not all Palatines in the 1709 emigration have been accounted for. Not all were listed, and nobody knows for sure how many there were. Estimates vary from 10,000 to 30,000 individuals. It's easy to accept the Rotterdam Lists as proof that Caspar immigrated with a wife and one child until you consider that Sebastian would have been 30 years old in 1709. I doubt that he would have been listed as a child then or that Caspar and his wife waited 30 years to have the other six children in Ireland. Please, don't anyone take offense. I've made entries in my own database that sound plain silly when I think about them.............Karen

My Information has Katherine Elizabeth Ruttle the daughter of John Caspar. Caspar was in the 3rd party of the Palatines with a wife and One child. Sebastian his first child was born 1679, so the rest of his 7 children were born in Ireland. Katherine married Johann Christopher Switzer. Hope this helps some. Judy