I too find hearing of a Switzer reunion interesting. I am a Johnston Armstrong/Clarinda Sparling descendant - my gggfather's brother Thomas Armstrong married Lucy Agnes Swizter, d. of John Switzer and Agnes Corneille. Wonder if any of their descendants are attending ? Margot Jorgensen - Courtenay B.C.

Does anyone have an email address for anyone connected with the Switzer Reunion on June 27th - I think at St. Mary's, Ontario. I have a message from the Irish Palatine Association. Thanks. Mary Wallace

My new email will be: judy.lyn@sympatico.ca the old one is being shut down so I had to make a new one. thanks.

Is anyone aware of a Jean Sparling who married a John Wyllie in Ayrshire, Scotland in 1787? Lois Sparling Calgary, Alberta

Does any one have any information on a Harvey Morris Switzer listed as a merchant, post master and county magistrate in Halton. His home (Late 19th century) at 2507 Dundas St., Palermo (Oakville) has been designated historical. Fred H. Hayward Oakville, Ontario

They have posted the Barbara Ruckle Heck Brochure on the internet for the meeting to be held in Kingston, Ontario, Aug. 19-22, 2004 at Queen's University. http://www.historicalsocietyunitedmethodistchurch.org/cmhs%20brochure.pdf Carole Richardson

Searching for information on Joseph P. EDWARDS, born 1792-1800, parents unknown, birthplace unknown. On 1851 Canadian census gave his age as 53 and birthplace as Ireland. Tombstone says died in 1867 at the age of 72. Would like to find parwnts and birthplace. Any help appreciated. Kathleen

More about the picture with Mrs Dowling that Blaine Riley was talking about in his email. The names on the picture are Philip, Mrs. Dowling, Edward and George. There are three bearded men and a woman in the picture. Something is written over the Studio name and it can't be made out. The name of the studio was The Royal --------- Studio, in the left hand bottom corner is written: Passamatta Road, and the right hand bottom corner has something like: Petersham or Petersman. My picture being a copy is probably not as clear as Blaine's but it is a very good picture. Tim Weekes from Austrailia had shared some documents with Dan Wells about the Dowling family and Dan in turn shared them with me. Tim Weekes sent a biography of the son of Edward and Jane (Ruttle) Dowling, Edward Dowling (1843-1912). It was from "Austrailian Dictionary of Biography, volume 8, 1891-1939, Cl-Gib / I am just going to type part of the biography: DOWLING, EDWARD (1843-1912), public servant and Federationist, was born on June 1843 in Sydney, son of Edward Dowling, painter, and his wife Jane, nee Ruttle. After elementary education in 1853 he entered the office of a Sydney merchant, transferring on 4 August 1856. He entered the Printing Office where he worked as office boy and compositor. From November 1872 he was reviser and from March 1882 accountant, compiling several statistical and descriptive publications. Dowling was an early advocate of education for working-men' in 161 he became honorary secretary of Syndney's first 'mutual improvement' group, which was associeated with the Pitt Street Congregational Church. A vice-president of the Sydney mechanics' School of Arts in 1869-83, he was mainly responsible for starting science classes there. In 1873 he moved for the establishment of working-men's college and was chairman of its committee until 1883. " etc. etc. there are two full pages of information about Edward Dowling. Jane had a sister Frances who was in Austrailia with her. One of the documents Tim Weekes sent was a letter dated 7 October 1895. The letter is from Edward Dowling to Daniel Ruckel. Tim says in the document that Edward and Daniel are half first cousins and that when the letters was written, Edward was 38 and Daniel was 60. It was post marked: Park Street NSW (in Sydney), Addressed to: Mr Daniel Ruckel, Humboldt Co., Iowa, United States Letter: "Warrano" Belmore St Burwood Sydney, New South Wales Austrailia, 17th. October 1895 My Dear Cousin, You will be sorrry to hear of the death of my beloved mother (Jane Ruckel) after an illness of a few weeks. After a residence of nearly 60 years in this Colony during which time she did a noble work she went to her long home, and is now with her Saviour. As she has lived with me nearly all my life I feel my loss very much, but hope to meet her again in Heaven where parting is no more. She was a brave soul and kept her intellect clear to the very last. During her illness she was attended by her relatives who all loved her very much, and did what they could for her. Her thoughts often flew to her girlhood years in Ireland, and to the dear nephews and nieces in America some of whom she remembered well as she often had nursed them in her arms. I enclose newspaper reports respecting her interment, from which you will see that she was followed to her last resting place for her body by many relatives and friends. Her younger sister Frances (Mrs.Newland) {Frances Ruckel} although a widow for many years is still alive but not very well at present. One of her grand children is named Ida Geneva (Ida Geneva Newland) after your daughter. I hope you will kindly pardon my not writing to you for such a long time but the fact is I have many engagements which prevent me form being a good correspondent, and this is my excuse. I shall, however, never forget the kindness of yourself, wife and daughters (Ida Geneva Ruckel and Katherine, Mary Ruckel and others) to Mr. Sultar and myself. Although Mr. Sultar is over 84 years of age he thoroughly enjoyed his trip across America and often speaks of our travels. I enclose you under separate cover a copy of a work written by me for the Chicago Exhibition in case you did not receive one at the from the Commissioners Office as desired by me. Mother (Jane Ruckel)and I often had talks about Uncle Christopher (Christopher E. Ruckel) and his wife (Catherine Ruckel) and children (Francis, Agnes, Catherine, Julius, George, Philip, Daniel - the addressee of this letter, Sarah, David, Christy, John, Henry and Christopher) after visiting the sites of the old homes at Loughburg and Newbridge, and also after my last trip to America. During the last three years there has been very bad times in Austrailia, as well as in other parts of the world, but things are begining to look a little brighter although we were threatened with a drought and millions of sheep and cattle died for want of grass and water. There are still large numbers of people in Austrailia out of employment, and great complaints are made of the badness of the times. I hope that the return of good times in the United States witll continue and that you will have good harvests and prosperity. Remember me kindly to your good wife and tell Miss Ida Geneva (Ida Geneva Ruckel) that I will never forget the drive across the prairies which was one of the most delighful I ever had. Mother (Jane Ruckel) wished that she was well enough to accompany on that trip to America, as she would very much have liked to meet her dear relatives in Ameica again. However I pray that we will all meet in Heaven at last through the atoning blood of Christ our Saviour. My eldest daughter is now Mrs. Paradise (nee Lily Dowling). My health is not very good. With kind regards, Yours truly Edward Dowling It amazes me how much Christopher and Catherine's family kept in touch with each other. I only have an extract of a letter. This family has dozens and dozens of letters preserved. I hope someone finds out information about the Ruckel on the postage stamp. And maybe someone has a copy of the picture that Blaine has of Mrs. Dowling and Edward, George and Philip and can tell him more about them. Best Wishes, Carole

Hi Blaine, It's good to hear from you again. I hope that someone will be able to tell you something about the stamp with the Ruckel on it. I hope it is not too hard to find an answer. There is probably a stamp collectors catalogue somewhere in Austrailia where someone might be able to find the stamp. I do have a copy of the picture with Mrs. Dowling, Edward, George and Philip on it. I looked in the notebook I have on your Ruckel family of Christopher and Catherine Ruckel and found the picture. I think after you sent it to Dan Wells, he sent me a copy. It is a nice picture and there are always people interested in pictures, especially people who do genealogy and family searches. I just love all the history that has been collected on your ancestors. They are one of the most interesting families I have read about. Good luck in your searches, Carole

Here goes: Benjamin Hartwell Doupe writtne by Mrs George Pearson: The homestead of the first Benjamin Hartwell Doupe is located three-quarters of a mile north of Crandall Manitoba on 2-14-25. Benjamin was born May 31,1861 at St Mary's Ontario and died April 27,1914 at Crandall. He came to Manitoba to take up his homestead in 1882. The end of the railroad was then at Brandon and he walked from there to where his homestead is situated. The community was later named Carlingville, when a school was built. His first home was a dugout for himself and his oxen. When he later built a log house, he married Jane Webb at Portage La Prairie. Jane was born in Goderich Ont Oct 18,1866 and died April 13,1925 at Crandall. Ben engaged in mixed farming and owned his own threshing machine. He was the first caretaker of Crandall cemetery and remained so until his heath. He planted the trees at the cemetery. There were 11 children born on the homestead-five girls and six boys. Mary Elizabeth married Leonard Johnson (one sone, Delymer) Joseph Gordon married Prudence Emily Eaton (two daughters-Marjorie and Geraldine) Anna and Frances died in their youth. Benjamin H married Gladys Irene HUme (one daughter-Margaret and five sones-Harold,Melville (deceased), Ben,Ron and Stan. Euretta Jane married Alfred Lints (seven daughters and two sons-Edna,Elva,Hollis,Lois,Della,Christina,Fern,Sanford and Elwood) Thomas Doupe was unmarried. Samuel ARthur married Gretta Phillips. Earl Doupe married May Jahnke (one daughter and one son-Lois and Arthur) Martha Mable married George Pearson (two daughters and one son-Jean,Georgina and James) Albert Doupe died in infancy. J Gordon Doupe: Born Feb 9,1888 in a log house on NE 2-14-25. I remember Father sowing grain by hand and one fall the crop being threshed by horse power. I still have an axle and two wheels of a four wheeled wagon that was used to hual the horse power device that came from Arrow River. The wagon was used under the caboose that travelled with the Carlingville threshing company--Ben being a member. Married Prudence Emily Eaton, a music teacher who came our from Nova Scotia to vist the Canns in 1910. Dec 18,1912 married. They settled in Miniota but after digging some 28 holes for water and finding none, they moved theh house across the boundary line and into the Hamiota Municipality. Steve Robus witched a found a never ending supply of water somewhat alkali but water. The horses refused to drink it. Mrs Doupe carried on an active and loyal interest in all church affairs and was organist for many years. She passed away after a sudden and sort illness June 11,1938 and lies at rest in the Crandall cemetery. The daughter Marjorie was born Oct 21,1914 and married Al Stevenson. The second daughter Geralding was born June 28,1918 and married Mr Steen. Gordon suffered a severe stroke in 1968 and was transferred to the Assiniboine Hops in Brandon. He remained a wheelchair patient for a year and a half. He spent the last year of his life in the Internaitonal Nursing HOme Brandon where he passed away Mar 6,1971. He lies at rest in the Crandall cemetery. Benjamin Hartwell Doupe (1890-1966) Attended school at Carlingville and later took a business course at Wheat City Business College in Brandon. Always interested in Church, school and community holding offices in each at various times. In 1918 he married Gladys Irene Hume of Elkhorn (teacher) They had 6 children: Harold Hartwell (1920) Melville JOhn (died in earyl childhood) Margaret Ethel (1924) Benjamin Hartwell (1926) Ronald Earl (1930) Stanley Alvin(1933) Harold married Joyce Ellen Phillpot (nurse) two daughters -Marilyn 1942 and Joan born 1943 Harold completed his pilots traing course but was more interested in the mechanics and structure of the craft. Margaret received her Bachelor of Science taught in the area then received her Diploma of Education from the U of Manitoba. In 1951 she married Edwin D Heise of Isabella. Three children-Sandra (1953) Allan (1955) and Carolyn 1957. Ben finsihed grade xi and joined the RCAF. He then completer his teaching taught for several years. Then moved on to finance and investments. In 1955 he married Audrey Brisson of Virden. Ron attended Brandon College for three years and then worked on geology survey. He changed to a municipal clerk. In 1954 married Noraleen Cockwill of Bagonie. Two boys Colin (1958) and Grant (1962) Stan is a resident of Crandall (THIS IS THE DOUPE THAT IS LOOKING AFTER OUR AUNTS CEMEMTERY PLOT IN CRANDALL) Stan is married to Velma Sherritt of Oakvill. four sons Scott (1965) Glenn (1957) Neil (1967) Malcolm (1965) Mrs Doupe died after a lengthy illnes in 1946. Mr D died aftera sudden illness in 1965 and was ladi to rest in Crandall cemetery in 1966

HI CAROLE, BEEN A WHILE BUT IT'S BLAINE RILEY AGAIN I'M IN DENVER NOW HELPING DAD (MOVED THERE). PROBABLY OF NO HELP BUT I HAVE A PHOTO OF THE DOWLINGS TAKEN IN, I BELIEVE, MELBORN WITH WHAT I BELEIVE IS PHILIP'S WIFE , LABELED AS A RUCKEL. HER NAME IS WRITTEN OVER THE PHOTOGRAPHER'S LABEL SO I CAN'T READ HER NAME. WHILE THIS IS A RUCKEL, IT MAY NOT HELP. ALSO, MY MOTHER USED TO TELL ME THERE WAS A RUCKEL ON A POSTAGE STAMP OF AUSTRALIA, AND I THINK SHE SAID HE WAS THE POSTMASTER. REGARDS, BLAINE

Peggy Thompson sent me this web site address last night. http://saltspringarchives.com It is a geat site. It has pages and pages of pictures of the different families of Salt Spring Island...Not only the Ruckles but many, many other families. there are eight pages of pictures on the Ruckle Family site. Henry Ruckle migrated from Ontario, Canada to British Columbia. His family are descendants of Barbara Ruckle Heck's brother Daniel Ruckle. Daniel Ruckle had a son named George Ruckle, who is called George of Adare. George had a son Daniel Ruckle who migrated to Ontario, Canada...Daniel's son Henry Ruckle migrated to British Columbia to what is called Salt Spring Island. The land where Henry Ruckle lived is now called Ruckle Provincial Park. the Ruckles I believe donated the land to the Park. They still live on the property. Daniel Rucke who migrated to Ontario, Canada is the family whose descent is listed in the RUCKLE/SWITZER Fourth Annual Reunion Picnic held at Springbank Park, London, Ontario, August 20, 1925. I hope someone finds this site helpful. Carole

Annette, Thank you so much for the response. I was sorry to hear that there was no big revelation on my Elizabeth Piper...but was grateful for your nice response. I have not added any Piper information to my data base but I think I may add the information that Terry Pyper sent me about Elizabeth Piper as (possibles) and list the information from the Piper pages in "Palatine Families of Ireland". Then if I need to see the information it will be right at hand and I can always make changes if I need to. It is important to document our information. I get a copy of every birth, death and marriage certificate and land record I can find naming my ancestors. Also any information from books that mention them. At first I wasn't copying the title page and sometimes would not list where the book was located. Now I try to document everything and when someone sends me something I document the source. I have lots of pages that I can't remember where they came from especially from when I first started doing genealogy. I am delighted to someone from Austrailia. The computer amazes me. With a click of a mouse we can talk to people from all of the world. I hope the Piper Reunion was a great success. It would be interesting to hear about the reunion and what the adgenda was. I am one of the historians for our annual Ruckle Reunion. This year, in June, we will hold our 42nd. It is usually a small group of people, we bring covered dishes, we have games for the children and give out gifts for different catagories like who traveled the furtherest, the oldest woman and the oldest man, the newest baby, the most recently married, etc. We also have an auction. They like to have signed, handmade items but some of us who aren't very crafty bring other things that we may have around the house or that we find at craft shows. I am not very crafty so I try to find something during the year to take to the auction. It is a lot of fun and we enjoy getting together. I know what you mean about not having a lot of time. Life is busy...and things are always happening to distract us from one thing to another. I know this is unrelated to genealogy....but I would like to know if you know any history on Ruckle Roo, (the mascot ?), of the football team in Melbourne, Austrailia. I found a stuffed Ruckle Roo, and a wallet with a Ruckle Roo on Ebay one time and copied the pictures, also saw a picture on a web site that showed two people with a person dressed up as Ruckle Roo (I copied that too). I was wondering if there was a connection to a Ruckle and what it might be. If I ever find anything on Elizabeth Piper I will let you know. I have been searching the church records and other records I can find for a trace of her here, but have had no success, she may have died in Ireland. There are still a lot of records to search here in Maryland, but I am limited in what I can do and there does not seem to be enough time to get to everything I would like to. Thank you again for your response. Carole Richardson Baltimore, Maryland

Hi Carole I have been researching my husband's PIPER line, initially for a Piper family reunion which was held here in Australia last year. However, I did not attempt to trace the family of Jacob and Christiana Piper as they were not on a direct line of ancestry for my husband's family. Like Terry Pyper I would like to see a Piper tree constructed of all Palatine Pipers but unfortunately I don't have the time or resources to do it at the moment, and my location in Australia doesn't help! I forwarded Judy the family trees I had constructed for the reunion for her to use on her Piper page if she was so inclined, however I did not have any information on the Jacob/Christiana line so am not the source. There was some Piper information already on the page and perhaps Judy obtained it from another contributor. I did stress to Judy at the time of sending these trees through that the first page of the family tree (from Hans Pfeiffer through to his great grandchildren (through his son John and grandson George) was only the most probable line of ancestry for my husband's great x3 grandfather as the proof just didn't exist. I constructed it using the limited official records available and the most obvious connections and/or hints (much as Terry Pyper did in his response to you) and as such it cannot be said to be completely accurate. The line from this ancestor's children (descendants of John Piper and Frances Long) is much more reliable (though we cannot be 100% sure at any time, can we?) I'm sorry I can't give you more information on your Elizabeth Piper but would certainly be interested in hearing should you find a definite connection. All the best, Annette Piper Coolah NSW Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: <Crsashmo@aol.com> To: <IRL-PALATINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 10:45 AM Subject: [IP] Piper > Judy > I made another trip to your keepsake book website and checked out the Piper > page. > I noticed you had Elizabeth Piper married to John Ruttle. > > I was wondering if you could give me Annette Piper's email address or ask her > to email me. I would like to know where she got the information that > Elizabeth was a child of Jacob Piper and his wife Christiana. > > I have no other information about my 5th great grandmother except a copy of > the Rathkeale Register showing their marriage: > > 1754 Jly 23 RUCKLE, John, of ye Parish of Nantinane > & PIPER Elizabeth, of ye Parish of Rathkeal > > A couple of years ago I asked Terry Piper if he had any ideas on Elizabeth's > parentage. She wasn't listed in "The Palatine Families of Ireland" in the > Piper section. She was only listed in the Ruckel section at the bottom of page > 104. > He wrote me back and said: > > "Your Elizabeth is interesting - I think no-one has much on her. She, of > course was born before the Rathkeale registers began to be recorded in 1742. By > elimination, she has to be the daughter of Jacob (eldest son of Hans Peter, > the original immigrant). I say this because Jacob's brother John also had a > daughter Elizabeth (b. 1749 - m. Adam Dolmage 1766 > Reasonably, we could assume that your Elizabeth (Thomas' mother) was born > between 1730-35, so almost certainly in Kilscannel/Kelleheen/Rathkeale where the > family was based. I had the good fortune to visit the original homestead > (Piper's Cottage) when I was there a coule of weeks ago. It now looks a bit like > a holiday chalet, but Austin (who owns it) wants to replace the new slate roof > with a thatch like the original - except that that would cost about L10 000 > and needs renewing once a decade... I took some photos anyway - I'm rather > sentimental about things like that. My father sold the holding in 1940, but I > would so love to own it. Ah, well - we can dream. > I hope one day to piece together all the Piper line and have already gathered > much material., but there's a long way to go yet. I shall soon be contacting > Piper addresses in North America and the Antipodes, which Austin passed to > me. But ANY information you could offer would be extremely useful." > > I hope that Terry has found a lot of new information on the Pipers...I have > found records on a lot of Pipers in Maryland region recently. I figure that > the Piper's who were in Baltimore were cousins of the Ruckles in Baltimore or > maybe even aunts and uncles. You can see that I really need help on my Piper > line trying to authenticate Elizabeth's father...I hope that Annette Piper might > have some new information too.. > > Thanks, > Carole > > > > > > ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > List Administrator: > Susan Laursen Willig > IRL-PALATINE-admin@rootsweb.com > >

The information I have from Annette is from John Piper who married Honora/Elenor descendants. I don't have that much information on Elizabeth and John Ruttle, but if I do find it I can let you know. annette's email address is: annette.piper@bigpond.com she is married to a Piper. maybe she does know something about Elizabeth that married John Ruttle. Or someone out there does. Hope this helps. Judy The Elizabeth that married Adam Dolmage was the daughter of John and Honora/Elenor. the information I got was from a royal Spear who has since died. I don't have that info, but if I do get it i will of course let you know.

There are Pipers in Terrace, British Columbia, Canada if you haven' t got them. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Crsashmo@aol.com> To: <IRL-PALATINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 8:45 PM Subject: [IP] Piper > Judy > I made another trip to your keepsake book website and checked out the Piper > page. > I noticed you had Elizabeth Piper married to John Ruttle. > > I was wondering if you could give me Annette Piper's email address or ask her > to email me. I would like to know where she got the information that > Elizabeth was a child of Jacob Piper and his wife Christiana. > > I have no other information about my 5th great grandmother except a copy of > the Rathkeale Register showing their marriage: > > 1754 Jly 23 RUCKLE, John, of ye Parish of Nantinane > & PIPER Elizabeth, of ye Parish of Rathkeal > > A couple of years ago I asked Terry Piper if he had any ideas on Elizabeth's > parentage. She wasn't listed in "The Palatine Families of Ireland" in the > Piper section. She was only listed in the Ruckel section at the bottom of page > 104. > He wrote me back and said: > > "Your Elizabeth is interesting - I think no-one has much on her. She, of > course was born before the Rathkeale registers began to be recorded in 1742. By > elimination, she has to be the daughter of Jacob (eldest son of Hans Peter, > the original immigrant). I say this because Jacob's brother John also had a > daughter Elizabeth (b. 1749 - m. Adam Dolmage 1766 > Reasonably, we could assume that your Elizabeth (Thomas' mother) was born > between 1730-35, so almost certainly in Kilscannel/Kelleheen/Rathkeale where the > family was based. I had the good fortune to visit the original homestead > (Piper's Cottage) when I was there a coule of weeks ago. It now looks a bit like > a holiday chalet, but Austin (who owns it) wants to replace the new slate roof > with a thatch like the original - except that that would cost about L10 000 > and needs renewing once a decade... I took some photos anyway - I'm rather > sentimental about things like that. My father sold the holding in 1940, but I > would so love to own it. Ah, well - we can dream. > I hope one day to piece together all the Piper line and have already gathered > much material., but there's a long way to go yet. I shall soon be contacting > Piper addresses in North America and the Antipodes, which Austin passed to > me. But ANY information you could offer would be extremely useful." > > I hope that Terry has found a lot of new information on the Pipers...I have > found records on a lot of Pipers in Maryland region recently. I figure that > the Piper's who were in Baltimore were cousins of the Ruckles in Baltimore or > maybe even aunts and uncles. You can see that I really need help on my Piper > line trying to authenticate Elizabeth's father...I hope that Annette Piper might > have some new information too.. > > Thanks, > Carole > > > > > > ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > List Administrator: > Susan Laursen Willig > IRL-PALATINE-admin@rootsweb.com > >

Judy I made another trip to your keepsake book website and checked out the Piper page. I noticed you had Elizabeth Piper married to John Ruttle. I was wondering if you could give me Annette Piper's email address or ask her to email me. I would like to know where she got the information that Elizabeth was a child of Jacob Piper and his wife Christiana. I have no other information about my 5th great grandmother except a copy of the Rathkeale Register showing their marriage: 1754 Jly 23 RUCKLE, John, of ye Parish of Nantinane & PIPER Elizabeth, of ye Parish of Rathkeal A couple of years ago I asked Terry Piper if he had any ideas on Elizabeth's parentage. She wasn't listed in "The Palatine Families of Ireland" in the Piper section. She was only listed in the Ruckel section at the bottom of page 104. He wrote me back and said: "Your Elizabeth is interesting - I think no-one has much on her. She, of course was born before the Rathkeale registers began to be recorded in 1742. By elimination, she has to be the daughter of Jacob (eldest son of Hans Peter, the original immigrant). I say this because Jacob's brother John also had a daughter Elizabeth (b. 1749 - m. Adam Dolmage 1766 Reasonably, we could assume that your Elizabeth (Thomas' mother) was born between 1730-35, so almost certainly in Kilscannel/Kelleheen/Rathkeale where the family was based. I had the good fortune to visit the original homestead (Piper's Cottage) when I was there a coule of weeks ago. It now looks a bit like a holiday chalet, but Austin (who owns it) wants to replace the new slate roof with a thatch like the original - except that that would cost about L10 000 and needs renewing once a decade... I took some photos anyway - I'm rather sentimental about things like that. My father sold the holding in 1940, but I would so love to own it. Ah, well - we can dream. I hope one day to piece together all the Piper line and have already gathered much material., but there's a long way to go yet. I shall soon be contacting Piper addresses in North America and the Antipodes, which Austin passed to me. But ANY information you could offer would be extremely useful." I hope that Terry has found a lot of new information on the Pipers...I have found records on a lot of Pipers in Maryland region recently. I figure that the Piper's who were in Baltimore were cousins of the Ruckles in Baltimore or maybe even aunts and uncles. You can see that I really need help on my Piper line trying to authenticate Elizabeth's father...I hope that Annette Piper might have some new information too.. Thanks, Carole

Thanks Carole, I went out to the Blue Church cemetary and have Jacob Heck's stone and his wife's Frances. Will be getting them on soon. I figure if you are going to do a genealogy site, make it beautiful. Judy

Judy, I went to your web site . It is quite beautiful too. You have done a nice job. I looked at the Barbara Heck page and saw that you requested the names of Barbara and Paul Heck's children: Here is a list of children I received from Rev. William Lamb of Kingston, Canada: 1. Jacobina Elizabeth Heck, b. February 11, 1764 Notes for Jacobina Elizabeth Heck: Baptised in Trinity Church, NYC Died young. 2. Catharina Barbara Heck, b. 1763 Notes for Catharina Barbara Heck: Baptised in Trinity Church, NYC Died young. 3. Elizabeth Maria Heck, b. 1765 New York City, New York 4. John Heck, b. 1767; d. 1805, Georgia; m. Amelia McLammy 5. Jacob Heck, b. 1769; New York City, New York, died September 24, 1847, Augusta, Prescott, Canada 6. Samuel Heck, b. July 28, 1771; died 1841 7. Nancy Heck, b. 1773 Carole

Talking about cemeteries reminded me that I wanted to ask if any of these Ruckle's in Davis, West Virginia and Thomas, West Virginia are familiar to anyone. Right before you go into Black Water Falls State Park there is a cemetery.  It is called Davis Cemetery. My sister Eleanor spotted two tombstones right along the road on the left are two tombstones.  One is for Leon "Punk" Ruckle b. June 19, 1912, d. Feb 7, 2002.  The other is his wife Ruth Lee Ruckle b. Oct 9, 1927, d. July 19, 1996. This obituary was on the internet: Leon G. Ruckle Leon George "Punk Ruckle, 89 of Davis, died Thursday, Feb. 7 2002, at his residence in Davis.  Mr. Ruckle was born june 19, 1912, in Dobbin, a son of the late Leon Monterville Ruckle and Amanda Kline Ruckle. He married Ruth Sponaugle Ruckle, who preceded him in death in 1996. Surviving are a son, Dale Ruckle and wife, Barbara, of Thomas; two daughters, Kathy Thomas and husband Ted, of Davis, and Donna Hufschmid and husband Gary, of Nessulbach, Switzerland; a sister, Doris Arnold, of Davis; six grandchildren and two great-grandchildren. He was preceded in death by a brother and two sisters. Mr. Ruckle was a member of St. johns Lutheran Church of Davis.  he was a member of the FOE 936 of Davis and he Alpine Post of the VFW 8367 and the CCC. Funeral Arrangements:  Friends will be received at Hinkle Funeral home Saturday from 2 pm to 9 pm.  Funeral services will be in the funeral home chapel Sunday at 1 pm with the Rev. J.J. Johnson officiating.  Interment will follow in Davis Cemetery, 8 Feb. 2002 We got out of the car and took pictures of the tombstones and then searched through the cemetery and found tombstones for the parents of Leon "Punk" Ruckle, Leon M. Ruckel b. 1880 and d. 1920 and his wife born 1893 and d. 1949 Aslo in the cemetery was Netti Ruckel, 1917-1992 (she was probably one of Leon "Punk" Ruckle's sisters) On the other side of the road was a cemetery with two more Ruckles.  (I couldn't make out the first name on the tombstone picture) but the second name was Marshall Ruckle born 1932 and died 1994 and Geraldine Ruckle his wife. Does anyone have any idea who these Ruckles are?  I thought maybe there could be a chance that they are  descended from the Western Maryland Ruckles. But when I emailed Beverly Raley she said she didn't know who they were. Who knows maybe there is someone on the list that is from that area of West Virginia and might be able to tell me something about the family. I found an email for Kathy Thomas on the internet but when I wrote her an email it came back as unknown. I have a small biography for her that I copied from the internet: Kathy Ruckle Thomas: I have worked at the National Bank of Davis since 1973. Married Gary I. Thomas in 1978 and have one son Kristian who was born in 1979. Just received an associates degree from Potomac State College in Accounting. Better late thannever I guess. I love to cook, enjoy quilting and reading. like talking to old friends so lets keep in touch. The biography was listed on, Davis High School, Class of 1955 Anyone who might know anything about this family please let me know. I would love to get in touch with the family and exchange information. Thanks, Carole