I'm new to Irish Palatines, I have done a lot of research on the New York Palatines. Fort Klock Historic Restoration, has a web site and links with great info on the Palatines. http:www.global2000.net/fortklock/history.html, also try the links. Many of these settlers were an important part of the Battle of Oriskany during the U.S.Revolutionary War, where lists of names of those in the regiments are posted. Herkimer Co.,Tryon Co., and Montgomery Co. links are also good sources. Many of the Palatine families, served under General Nicholas Herkimer.

R. Paul Doherty, Many of my Palatines married into the DOHERTY family, who were Methodists in Co. Limerick. Do you show any Dohertys married to Teskys? Dan

Greetings: This is my first message on the Palatine Line. Since joining yesterday I have been flooded with messages I have no idea what they are all about. I am interested in the Teskey Line --- including all the other Palatine relations --- Long, Atkins, etc. What is the "wonderful offer" that everyone is discussing? R. Paul Doherty

Hello Liz What a great offer, I would also like a copy. Thank you for the offer: Kim Cooke P.O. Box 137 Wingham, Ontario N0G 2W0 Canada [email protected] Researching the familes of Cooke and Raynard

I can't recall the few who are in England that would like a copy of this "manuscript" (for lack of a better term) so I'll just put this out on the list. I realized I'm in Belfast quite a bit and can always make use of British pounds, so if its easier you can send me British pounds by mail and I'll just pay my employer in American Dollars. I'll always use the British money. Thanks! Liz Haren

In a message dated 3/11/2001 3:53:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << Hi Liz, your offer is really generous . I wonder though, what one needs to view the film, as I don't have access to certain projectors, and will wait for your answer before requesting a copy. Cathy Behan [email protected] >> It's not in film form, its a photocopy (on paper). I took the film and made a hard copy of it.

Liz, that should be 2 from England, I have arranged with my cousin in the US to forward the cost of posting to England to you. Well done, your genorous offer is greatly appreciated. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 2:09 PM Subject: [IP] A little IP census > > I just thought you'd be interested to know that of the 19 who requested > copies of the information I have, 12 were Canadians, 1 from Australia, 1 > from England, 5 from the US. That's an amazing selection of people on this > list! I'm impressed! And very glad I made 20 copies :) > > Liz Haren > > > ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > List Administrator: > Susan Laursen Willig > [email protected] > >

Dear Kate Many thanks indeed for replying to my message on IRL-PALATINE. You have prompted me to read up more about the Blennerhassett history. With regard to the Palatine names you mention, I'm a Barkman descendent myself, and do know of family connections/intermarriages with the Blennerhassett, Fitzell, Hoffman etc families from the Ballymacelligott area. So there's quite a coincidence here! I don't know a great deal more about the history of this song - the Gaelic version I have that mentions Bhaile an tSioda was handed to me by a friend. I wonder if you know more about it? My mother was born near Adare Co. Limerick (Barkman) - but I was born and bread in England. My knowledge of the Irish language is very poor I'm afraid. But I try to link my interest in tracing my own family history with wider understanding of history, geography, culture etc. Once again, many thanks for your help. Di Mitchell ----- Original Message ----- From: Kerry Kate <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [IP] THE PALATINE'S DAUGHTER - Old Irish Song > In reference to the second part of your posting on the location of > Bhaile an tSioda > > Bhaile an tSioda = Ballyseedy > > Ballyseedy, a parish in Trughanacmy > barony in County Kerry. > Ballyseedy Castle was the mansion of the Blennerhassetts, who married into > many of the Palatine families, in the Ballymacelligott area of Kerry. > Hoffman, Poff, Groves/Grouse, Benner, Fitzelle, Gleasure, Bovenizer, Miller, > Barkman, Cronsberry families settled in the area, brought there by John > Blennerhassett family in the late I7OOs. > Some of the families moved to the Sandes and Leslie Estates around Tarbert. > > Regards > Kate > [email protected] > http://www.netidea.com/~kerryroutes/ > > > > ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > Try to do little things in an extraordinary way. > >

Hi Liz, your offer is really generous . I wonder though, what one needs to view the film, as I don't have access to certain projectors, and will wait for your answer before requesting a copy. Cathy Behan [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 6:35 AM Subject: Fwd: [IP] Palatine Copy > > --part1_3b.1193b190.27dce74e_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > >>>I seem to have lost your e-mail address.Please let me know the cost for the > FHC records and I will send payment.>>>> > > Here ya go > > --part1_3b.1193b190.27dce74e_boundary > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > Content-Disposition: inline > > Return-Path: <[email protected]> > Received: from rly-zb03.mx.aol.com (rly-zb03.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.3]) by air-zb04.mail.aol.com (v77_r1.21) with ESMTP; Fri, 09 Mar 2001 20:41:14 -0500 > Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by rly-zb03.mx.aol.com (v77_r1.21) with ESMTP; Fri, 09 Mar 2001 20:41:02 -0500 > Received: (from [email protected]) > by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f2A1eMn26937; > Fri, 9 Mar 2001 18:40:22 -0700 > Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 18:40:22 -0700 > X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Fri Mar 9 18:40:22 2001 > From: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 20:40:10 EST > Subject: Re: [IP] Palatine Copy > Old-To: [email protected] > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 116 > Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Resent-From: [email protected] > Reply-To: [email protected] > X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/500 > X-Loop: [email protected] > Precedence: list > Resent-Sender: [email protected] > > > Ok, I weighed this "thing" today and it weighs 1 pound 8 oz or 24 ounces. > > For mailing anywhere in the US the cost is $3.95 (2 pound mail rate) > For mailing to Australia, Europe, England, the cost is $19.20 (24 x .80) > For mailing to Oh! Canada the cost is $14.40 (24 x .60). (lots of you > Palatines in Canada!) > > I made 20 sets today and have about 12 requests so far. Since I'll put this > thru the company postage meter, its best to reimburse my company. You can > make the check out to (and mail it as well to): > TKL Research > 4 Forest Avenue > Paramus, NJ, USA 07652 > > Put "Palatine" on the envelope. I get the mail, but just in case I'm out > that day. Make sure your address is enclosed with the check. Unfortunately it > has to be in US Dollars. If you changed your mind about the manuscript > because of the price of postage, just let me know! > > I can also make more copies, so don't worry if the requests exceed 20. > > Take care, > Liz Haren > > > ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > List Administrator: > Susan Laursen Willig > [email protected] > > > --part1_3b.1193b190.27dce74e_boundary-- > > > ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > You can't plough a field merely by turning it over in your mind. > >

Hi, Cathy - ><< I wonder though, what one needs to view the film, as I don't have >access to certain projectors, and will wait for your answer before >requesting a copy. Cathy Behan >> The LDS films are on microfilm reels and one must go to an LDS Family History Center and use one of their microfilm readers to view the film. Rental of films through the LDS FHC's is very inexpensive. It usually costs about $3.25 to order a film for a period of about 6 weeks. The film stays at the FHC for that entire period and you can view it during hours the FHC is open. Then, if you wish to renew the film, that can be done for a second payment of $3.25 and if you wish to have the film kept at the FHC indefinitely, there is a third payment of $3.25. Otherwise, the film is returned to Salt Lake City to the main library archives there... All the best, Susan SL Willig [email protected] List Admin. for VTADDISO, NHSULLIV, IRL-Palatine, Empey-l, Garfield-l

Hello Liz, I seem to have lost your e-mail address.Please let me know the cost for the FHC records and I will send payment. David Benner [email protected]

--part1_3b.1193b190.27dce74e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>I seem to have lost your e-mail address.Please let me know the cost for the FHC records and I will send payment.>>>> Here ya go --part1_3b.1193b190.27dce74e_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from rly-zb03.mx.aol.com (rly-zb03.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.3]) by air-zb04.mail.aol.com (v77_r1.21) with ESMTP; Fri, 09 Mar 2001 20:41:14 -0500 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by rly-zb03.mx.aol.com (v77_r1.21) with ESMTP; Fri, 09 Mar 2001 20:41:02 -0500 Received: (from [email protected]) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f2A1eMn26937; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 18:40:22 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 18:40:22 -0700 X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Fri Mar 9 18:40:22 2001 From: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 20:40:10 EST Subject: Re: [IP] Palatine Copy Old-To: [email protected] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 116 Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Resent-From: [email protected] Reply-To: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/500 X-Loop: [email protected] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [email protected] Ok, I weighed this "thing" today and it weighs 1 pound 8 oz or 24 ounces. For mailing anywhere in the US the cost is $3.95 (2 pound mail rate) For mailing to Australia, Europe, England, the cost is $19.20 (24 x .80) For mailing to Oh! Canada the cost is $14.40 (24 x .60). (lots of you Palatines in Canada!) I made 20 sets today and have about 12 requests so far. Since I'll put this thru the company postage meter, its best to reimburse my company. You can make the check out to (and mail it as well to): TKL Research 4 Forest Avenue Paramus, NJ, USA 07652 Put "Palatine" on the envelope. I get the mail, but just in case I'm out that day. Make sure your address is enclosed with the check. Unfortunately it has to be in US Dollars. If you changed your mind about the manuscript because of the price of postage, just let me know! I can also make more copies, so don't worry if the requests exceed 20. Take care, Liz Haren ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== List Administrator: Susan Laursen Willig [email protected] --part1_3b.1193b190.27dce74e_boundary--

I just thought you'd be interested to know that of the 19 who requested copies of the information I have, 12 were Canadians, 1 from Australia, 1 from England, 5 from the US. That's an amazing selection of people on this list! I'm impressed! And very glad I made 20 copies :) Liz Haren

Hi Norma There is only a short paragraph in Jones' book about the Balls. He says that "whether or not the Balls of Co. Limerick were of German ancestry is not yet firmly proven. There was, however, a 1709er family who settled in colonial America, descended from Johannes Ball and his wife Anna Catharina of 6719 Mauchenheim near Alzey, Germany [see my The Palatine Families of N.Y. Vol 1 pp. 14-16, for more on this interesting group] John Switzer of Dublin assigned a house to John Ball on 24 April 1784. A John Ball of Kilscannel parish md. Elizabeth Bovenhoizer of the same parish 3 Oct 1786; James Ball md. Margaret Shouldice of Killiheen 24 Nov 1790, and perhaps he was the same man as the James Ball, weaver of Killiheen, bur. 30 Nov 1800 (Rathkeale Chbk.)" That is all. Mary -----Original Message----- From: Norma Moug <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, March 09, 2001 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [IP] Palatine Families of Ireland > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Casey Family" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 7:36 PM >Subject: [IP] Palatine Families of Ireland > > >> The book "The Palatine Families of Ireland " apparently mentions the >surname BALL. My local library cannot get it for me on library loan. They >found one copy but it was not for loan. Could someone tell me if there is >another place I could try or could someone please tell me if my family is >even mentioned. >> Thank you inadvance >> Brenda >> Ontario, Canada >> Researching BALL,PYPHER/PIPHER in Limerick, Ireland >> >> >> ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== >> You can't plough a field merely by turning it over in your mind. >> > > >==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== >My folks didn't come over on the Mayflower, but >they were there to meet the boat. Will Rogers > >

Hi: For those interested in ordering the reel about the Palatines, what would the call number from the FHC be? And is this the LDS FHC? Thank you. Regards, Carol Collins _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

Sorry, It was Brenda who was interested in Ball families. I merely indicated some of the books H. Jones had published on the Palatines. Thanks anyway, I'm sure Brenda will see it. Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Wallace" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 1:28 AM Subject: Re: [IP] Palatine Families of Ireland > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Casey Family" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 7:36 PM > >Subject: [IP] Palatine Families of Ireland > > > > > >> The book "The Palatine Families of Ireland " apparently mentions the > >surname BALL. My local library cannot get it for me on library loan. They > >found one copy but it was not for loan. Could someone tell me if there is > >another place I could try or could someone please tell me if my family is > >even mentioned. > >> Thank you inadvance > >> Brenda > >> Ontario, Canada > >> Researching BALL,PYPHER/PIPHER in Limerick, Ireland > >> > >> > >> ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > >> You can't plough a field merely by turning it over in your mind. > >> > > > > > >==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > >My folks didn't come over on the Mayflower, but > >they were there to meet the boat. Will Rogers > > > > > > > ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > Feel free to submit to the IP GenConnect boards. Here are two: > http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/Special/IRL-PalatineBibl > http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/Special/IRL-PalatineBios >

Liz Haren <[email protected]> Re: your "Irish Palatines" offer to send ccs of the appx 250 pages interesting read of the transcription of the reel of FHC's "Palatines" info. Your's is a very gracious consideration to fellow IP's. Thanx from all of us for being so kind. Please let me know a cost once arrived on. I'm sure you'll be inundated w/ requests, so put me on the end of your list. Searching: BLENNERHASSETT/BOVENIZER/FITZELL/MCELLIGOTT God Bless, Walter L. (& Joan) McElligott, P.R. Director Historical Society Greater Peotone, Peotone Economic Development (Marketing) Committee (PEDMC) (Personal ad) P.O.Box 161, Peotone, IL 60468 Visit Carey Meyer's kidney transplant site <http://www.manteno.com/careymeyer/.> ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Hank Jones, a descendant from the Barkman family, has written several books on the Palatines. You can buy this book, and preview other books, on his website: http://www.hankjones.com/palire.htm The book is also available from the Irish Palatine Association Ken McDonald 2 Greenfields, Stansted, Essex, CM24 8AH, England [email protected] Do check out www.teskey.org -----Original Message----- From: Casey Family <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: 10 March 2001 00:40 Subject: [IP] Palatine Families of Ireland The book "The Palatine Families of Ireland " apparently mentions the surname BALL. My local library cannot get it for me on library loan. They found one copy but it was not for loan. Could someone tell me if there is another place I could try or could someone please tell me if my family is even mentioned. Thank you inadvance Brenda Ontario, Canada Researching BALL,PYPHER/PIPHER in Limerick, Ireland ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== You can’t plough a field merely by turning it over in your mind.

Dear Liz What a wonderful offer! I'd love a copy. I am descended from the Palatine families of Switzer, Dolmage and Miller . I have a little on Neazer in County Limerick, not much but you are welcome to it if you want it. Mary Wallace 1511 Nebo Road Mount Hope, Ontario, L0R 1W0 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, March 08, 2001 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [IP] Irish Palatines > >I had the opportunity to photocopy the entire reel of the FHC's "Palatines". >This is almost a journal of their journey from Germany to Ireland. Here's >the table of contents: > >Bibliography of Irish Palatines >Wesley's Journal >Arthur Youngs Tour in Ireland >Mr. and Mrs S.C Hall's Ireland >Dunraven's Memorials of Adare >Lenihans History of Limerick >History of Limerick by Farrar >Journals of Irish House of Commons >Journals of Irish House of Lords >Calendar of Treasury Papers >Appendix to 2nd report of Historical MSS Commission >Gilberts Report on the King Correspondene in the Lyons MSS >Lewis's Topographical Dictionary of Ireland >Mathewson's Irish Surnames in 1894 >The "Irish Evangelist" for 1860 No. 9, Monthly Magazine >Crookshanks History of Irish Methodism >Burn's Chronological Rememberance >Hart's Irish Pedigrees >Sir. R. Steele's Memoirs of Thos Marquis of Wharton >Annals of Queen Anne 1709, pp 166-8 >Boyers Political State of britain Vol 1 pp 133, 276, 280 >History of queen anne Vols 1 and II >GP Disosway's "The Palatines in America" > >This is not "name indexed" so I can't really do look ups, but I'm willing to >copy this entire thing and send it out to those who'd like it for the cost of >mailing it. The copy is ok, not great, but readable. I have no idea who >compiled it, but its a thorough job! > >Take care, >Liz Haren (looking for Neazer from Limerick) > > >==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== >List Administrator: >Susan Laursen Willig >[email protected] > >

I would like to thank every one you repsonsed to my posting on the book "The Palatine Families of Ireland" Thank you Brenda