Hello: I have just joined this list because sks suggested the name I am researching might be that of an Irish Palatine family. Bridget HANSBURGH (or HANSBORO[UGH]--as the name was written on her record of marriage intent--was born in Ireland around 1830. We know neither the town nor the county. At some time before August, 1846, she emigrated to the US. There she married Nicholas FORD, who also born in Ireland (town? county?) around 1830. They married in Greenfield, Franklin County, MA in August, 1846. I know much about the Fords after that year--they settled first in Kinderhook, NY, then in Pittsfield, MA where they raised their ten children. But I cannot find out anything about their origins in Ireland, except that Nicholas' father's name was James. About Bridget, nothing. I cannot locate any siblings in the US, and the name is pretty well non-existent in Ireland. One researcher suggested that her first name might not even have been Bridget! Yet "Bridget Hansburgh" is the name the family has on the family tombstone. I don't know quite what to make of the name on the marriage record: HANSBORO[UGH]. I tried to imagine her saying the name to a clerk in a strong Irish accent and the clerk writing what s/he thought she was hearing. Any thoughts on whether this might be a Palatine name? It isn't listed in the Jones book. I know that many Palatines emigrated to the US from Ireland way before 1830--when Bridget was born-- so if they were a Palatine family, they would have to have remained in Ireland at least long enough for her to be born there. Thanks in advance. Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris_LeGear" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [IP] Palatine History Great Info > Rob > > Thank you very much for the information of the site at global2000. I > checked it straight away and found it to be absolutely excellent. > If I had known about it a couple of weeks ago I could have saved some money. > A copy of Ruttle's book that I ordered from Amazon a week ago arrived > today!! > Thanks again > > Chris Le Gear > > > > > ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > Great minds talk about ideas. Average minds talk about > events. Small minds talk about people. >

In a message dated 3/16/2001 3:59:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << I just recieved my copy of the Palatine manuscript. It is just great!!!!! I can't express enough gratitude for your generous offer. You are really a wonderful, sharing person. >> Thanks! I'm really glad you got it so fast! The other woman that lives in Arizona received it in 2 days as well! It's neat isn't it? Some of it dates to the early 1700's. I think someone typed it in the 20's and then someone gave it to the Mormans to microfilm. Either way, I thought it was amazing. I'm glad you like it! Take care Liz

Liz, I just recieved my copy of the Palatine manuscript. It is just great!!!!! I can't express enough gratitude for your generous offer. You are really a wonderful, sharing person. Carole

Hi Muriel The two addresses are: 1. Gretl Dixon [email protected] 2. Carolyn [email protected] For a taster, here is the content of Carolyn's last query to the Maryland Query page!! "Just received my "Glades Star" from the Garrett Co. Historical Soc. Marriage records for Garrett Co., Md., 1895-1900, St thru Vi, are in this edition. Found my gr-grandmother's brother's marriage (Daniel Morrell Switzer). I knew he had married Laura Shaffer but didn't have the date. I am delighted to find his middle name. Do you suppose "Morrell" might lead me to an earlier Switzer family connection??? Would appreciate any lead!!! Daniel's father, also named Daniel, has been my loooong-time brick wall. Curious about Charles Henry Switzer (also, listed in m. rec.) m. Feb. 23, 1895, to Clara Feik. Does anyone have a record of this Switzer, poss. b. c. 1875 ???"

Posted on: IRL-Palatine Special Bible Records Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/Special/IRL-PalatineBibl/1 Surname: Cady, Bailey, Wheeler ------------------------- I am looking for any family of Wheeler's and the Bailey and for any information on the Cady family. Thank You

Again my grateful thanks, I look forward to receiving it. Regards Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 6:46 PM Subject: [IP] "manuscript mailed" > > I would contact you individually, like I did with 2 people on the list, but I > can't recall now all your email address nor can I find them. So I'll try to > group these so as not to antagonize the rest of you. > > The following had their items mailed: > > 3/13 Coope, Az > 3/13 Holden, Or > 3/14 Richardson, Md > 3/14 Murphy for Dobson, England > 3/15 McDonald, England > 3/15 Willig, Az > > > ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > Feel free to submit to the IP GenConnect boards. Here are two: > http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/Special/IRL-PalatineBibl > http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/Special/IRL-PalatineBios > >

I would contact you individually, like I did with 2 people on the list, but I can't recall now all your email address nor can I find them. So I'll try to group these so as not to antagonize the rest of you. The following had their items mailed: 3/13 Coope, Az 3/13 Holden, Or 3/14 Richardson, Md 3/14 Murphy for Dobson, England 3/15 McDonald, England 3/15 Willig, Az

Hi Chris I would be most interested in getting in touch with the two people you mentioned who are researching Switzers. I would appreciate their e-mail addresses and will let you know what turns up. Thanks, Muriel Baerg -----Original Message----- From: Chris_LeGear <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 12:59 PM Subject: [IP] IPs in MARYLAND >Dear List > >Some of you might recall that a few months ago I mentioned that I had tracked down my LEGEARs that went missing from Killeheen in the 1840s (along with the rest of the village!!) to Maryland. (Now spelled LEGEER!) > >I've had no luck in contacting direct descendants at this time but have made contact with a number of other Maryland researchers, two of which are of the SWITZER family. It may be that they are nothing to do with our IPs but they don't seem to be able to get back before about 1860. If there are any SWITZER researchers out there that are interested please contact me and I'll let you have their email addresses. > >On another note, is there anybody with German historical knowledge that might be able to tell me if Canstatt, near Stuttgart (on the River Neckar) was at any time spelled Constance or Konstanz - or are they different places? I can't find the latter in my Atlas!! > >On another other note, Di Mitchell remarked on her recollection of the insertion of the letter 'N' into Pallentine and asked if anyone else had come across it. In Adam Shouldice's letter asking for assisted passage to North America in 1823 he starts >"The Humble Adress of The Pallentines and Trew Protestants of The County of Limerick............" > >Best wishes to all > >Chris LeGear > > > > >==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== >Two more IP GenConnect Boards. Please post your info! >http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/Special/IRL-PalatineObits >http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/Special/IRL-PalatineWill >

Sorry Carole It was my typing finger going a bit faster than my brain. I meant to type "Knittle" not "Ruttle"!! Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 12:16 AM Subject: Re: [IP] Palatine History Great Info > Chris or Rob, > > What is the site you are talking about Global 2000? > Also Chris, what is the Ruttle book you are talking about? > I am a descendant of the Ruckle/Ruttles and am very interested. > > Thanks, > Carole Ruckle Richardson > > > ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > Try to do little things in an extraordinary way. >

Hi Muriel, Yes, those are my people. Thanks for the great info! Dan

Chris or Rob, What is the site you are talking about Global 2000? Also Chris, what is the Ruttle book you are talking about? I am a descendant of the Ruckle/Ruttles and am very interested. Thanks, Carole Ruckle Richardson

Dear List Some of you might recall that a few months ago I mentioned that I had tracked down my LEGEARs that went missing from Killeheen in the 1840s (along with the rest of the village!!) to Maryland. (Now spelled LEGEER!) I've had no luck in contacting direct descendants at this time but have made contact with a number of other Maryland researchers, two of which are of the SWITZER family. It may be that they are nothing to do with our IPs but they don't seem to be able to get back before about 1860. If there are any SWITZER researchers out there that are interested please contact me and I'll let you have their email addresses. On another note, is there anybody with German historical knowledge that might be able to tell me if Canstatt, near Stuttgart (on the River Neckar) was at any time spelled Constance or Konstanz - or are they different places? I can't find the latter in my Atlas!! On another other note, Di Mitchell remarked on her recollection of the insertion of the letter 'N' into Pallentine and asked if anyone else had come across it. In Adam Shouldice's letter asking for assisted passage to North America in 1823 he starts "The Humble Adress of The Pallentines and Trew Protestants of The County of Limerick............" Best wishes to all Chris LeGear

Rob Thank you very much for the information of the site at global2000. I checked it straight away and found it to be absolutely excellent. If I had known about it a couple of weeks ago I could have saved some money. A copy of Ruttle's book that I ordered from Amazon a week ago arrived today!! Thanks again Chris Le Gear

Hi Sandra, Did I send this to you previously? - It has a Shouldice name in it. Fraser ---- At 05:58 PM 03/14/2001 +0000, you wrote: >Dear List > >Some of you might recall that a few months ago I mentioned that I had >tracked down my LEGEARs that went missing from Killeheen in the 1840s >(along with the rest of the village!!) to Maryland. (Now spelled LEGEER!) > >I've had no luck in contacting direct descendants at this time but have >made contact with a number of other Maryland researchers, two of which are >of the SWITZER family. It may be that they are nothing to do with our IPs >but they don't seem to be able to get back before about 1860. If there >are any SWITZER researchers out there that are interested please contact >me and I'll let you have their email addresses. > >On another note, is there anybody with German historical knowledge that >might be able to tell me if Canstatt, near Stuttgart (on the River Neckar) >was at any time spelled Constance or Konstanz - or are they different >places? I can't find the latter in my Atlas!! > >On another other note, Di Mitchell remarked on her recollection of the >insertion of the letter 'N' into Pallentine and asked if anyone else had >come across it. In Adam Shouldice's letter asking for assisted passage to >North America in 1823 he starts >"The Humble Adress of The Pallentines and Trew Protestants of The County >of Limerick............" > >Best wishes to all > >Chris LeGear > > > > >==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== >Two more IP GenConnect Boards. Please post your info! >http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/Special/IRL-PalatineObits >http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/Special/IRL-PalatineWill Fraser Carr - Prescott ON - on the St. Lawrence River

Hi Dan, There is an entry in the parish register for Adare for the marriage of Mary St.John and Edward Dogherty on February 4, 1819, by licence. It does not mention parents names nor witnesses. Muriel -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, January 12, 2001 8:21 AM Subject: [IP] Re: St.John >Muriel, > >Have we exchanged info on our St. Johns yet? I can't recall. I'm looking >for Mary St.John, born 1791 in Co. Limerick, Ireland, died 1876 in St. Marys, >Ontario. She was married to Edward Doherty. Thx. > > >Dan > > >==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== >You can have brilliant ideas, but if you can’t get them across, your >Brains won’t get you anywhere. --- Lee Iacocca > >

All, Greetings from so. of Chicago. Would SKS verify the location of Ballymacelligott & Tarbert to each other? I need this to be certain my adaptation of "Palatine Daughter" poem to my forebears is correct. Many thanx, esp. to Di for sending the original. Walter McElligott [BLENNERHASSETT,BOVENIZER, FITZELL] Visit <[email protected]> ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

I've got the call number for the Rathkeale Limerick register if you are interested, from the LDS Family History Library. Clifford M Dubery -----Original Message----- From: Carol Collins [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 11:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [IP] FHC call number Hi: For those interested in ordering the reel about the Palatines, what would the call number from the FHC be? And is this the LDS FHC? Thank you. Regards, Carol Collins _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== Feel free to submit to the IP GenConnect boards. Here are two: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/Special/IRL-PalatineBibl http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/Special/IRL-PalatineBios

Here's the crux of the Palatine copy issue :) I had the opportunity to photocopy the entire reel of the FHC's "Palatines". This is almost a journal of their journey from Germany to Ireland. Here's the table of contents: Bibliography of Irish Palatines Wesley's Journal Arthur Youngs Tour in Ireland Mr. and Mrs S.C Hall's Ireland Dunraven's Memorials of Adare Lenihans History of Limerick History of Limerick by Farrar Journals of Irish House of Commons Journals of Irish House of Lords Calendar of Treasury Papers Appendix to 2nd report of Historical MSS Commission Gilberts Report on the King Correspondene in the Lyons MSS Lewis's Topographical Dictionary of Ireland Mathewson's Irish Surnames in 1894 The "Irish Evangelist" for 1860 No. 9, Monthly Magazine Crookshanks History of Irish Methodism Burn's Chronological Rememberance Hart's Irish Pedigrees Sir. R. Steele's Memoirs of Thos Marquis of Wharton Annals of Queen Anne 1709, pp 166-8 Boyers Political State of britain Vol 1 pp 133, 276, 280 History of queen anne Vols 1 and II GP Disosway's "The Palatines in America" This is not "name indexed" so I can't really do look ups, but I'm willing to copy this entire thing and send it out to those who'd like it for the cost of mailing it. The copy is ok, not great, but readable. I have no idea who compiled it, but its a thorough job! Take care, Liz Haren (looking for Neazer from Limerick) and the 2nd email: Ok, I weighed this "thing" today and it weighs 1 pound 8 oz or 24 ounces. For mailing anywhere in the US the cost is $3.95 (2 pound mail rate) For mailing to Australia, Europe, England, the cost is $19.20 (24 x .80) For mailing to Oh! Canada the cost is $14.40 (24 x .60). (lots of you Palatines in Canada!) I made 20 sets today and have about 12 requests so far. Since I'll put this thru the company postage meter, its best to reimburse my company. You can make the check out to (and mail it as well to): TKL Research 4 Forest Avenue Paramus, NJ, USA 07652 Put "Palatine" on the envelope. I get the mail, but just in case I'm out that day. Make sure your address is enclosed with the check. Unfortunately it has to be in US Dollars. If you changed your mind about the manuscript because of the price of postage, just let me know! I can also make more copies, so don't worry if the requests exceed 20. Take care, Liz Haren

Must have missed my coy of the Palatine stating what this fhc is that people are ordering copies of.

Hi You all HAVE to look at this site, I just checked it out again, and they have Irish Palatine lists. I am new to this Irish Palatine site so maybe this is old news. Plan on spending hours reading on your computers!!!!Go to: http://www.global2000.net/fortklock/history.html click on Under Contents,Click on Books to Download and Read, Click on The Early 18th Century Palatine Emmigration by Walter Allen Knittle, then Click on # 9 for the Irish Palatine lists. Afterwards, go back and check out all the other sites. Also have any of you read The Matchlock Gun, by Walter D. Edmonds ? It is a children's book about the Palatines of the Mohawk Valley, it won the Newberry Book Award. Kathleen Snell