Sorry Donna, I checked and can't see Hollinger. I also checked a list of " 213 Palatine Families in Ireland, 13 July 1715 ", and couldn't find anything close. Of course, I have taken my information from a book about those who emigrated to Ontario, so it is possible the transcribing doesn't cover all names. Margot ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [IP] Margot's list of Palatine Families--1720 > Margot, do you find the name Hollinger? > > > ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > Try to do little things in an extraordinary way. > >

Just wondering, Margot, if your list of "Palatine Families in Ireland at a Muster Taken for Six Months Ending the 29th Sep 1720 at Ballingarran, Killaheen, Castle-Mattress and Court-Matress in the County of Limerick" might include the name HANSBURGH (or anything resembling it!). Thanks if you have time to check. Cheers, Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "margot jorgensen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 2:30 PM Subject: [IP] Neazer Hi Liz, I can't help with the film, but noticed on a list I have of "Palatine Families in Ireland at a Muster Taken for Six Months Ending the 29th Sep 1720 at Ballingarran, Killaheen, Castle-Mattress and Court-Matress in the County of Limerick" NEYSER, Leonard and NEYSER, Michl. - another spelling ? Sorry, there's no further information, just lists of names taken from "Tenison Grove Papers". Margot Jorgensen, Courtenay B. C. ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== You can't plough a field merely by turning it over in your mind.

Judy, I'm sorry, I couldn't find anything even vaguely near the name "Hansburgh". Hope you find it. Margot ----- Original Message ----- From: "jfw" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 2:19 PM Subject: [IP] Margot's list of Palatine Families--1720 > Just wondering, Margot, if your list of "Palatine Families in Ireland > at a Muster Taken for Six Months Ending the 29th Sep 1720 at > Ballingarran, Killaheen, Castle-Mattress and Court-Matress in the > County of Limerick" might include the name HANSBURGH (or anything > resembling it!). Thanks if you have time to check. > > Cheers, > Judy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "margot jorgensen" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 2:30 PM > Subject: [IP] Neazer > > > Hi Liz, > I can't help with the film, but noticed on a list I have of "Palatine > Families in Ireland at a Muster Taken for Six Months Ending the 29th > Sep 1720 at Ballingarran, Killaheen, Castle-Mattress and Court-Matress > in the County of Limerick" > > NEYSER, Leonard and NEYSER, Michl. - another spelling ? > > Sorry, there's no further information, just lists of names taken from > "Tenison Grove Papers". > > Margot Jorgensen, Courtenay B. C. > > > ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > You can't plough a field merely by turning it over in your mind. > > > > ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > Oh, man! There is no planet, sun, or star could HOLD you, > If you but knew what you are! -- Ralph Waldo Emerson >

In a message dated 01-04-19 15:27:21 EDT, you write: << I can't help with the film, but noticed on a list I have of "Palatine Families in Ireland at a Muster Taken for Six Months Ending the 29th Sep 1720 at Ballingarran, Killaheen, Castle-Mattress and Court-Matress in the County of Limerick" NEYSER, Leonard and NEYSER, Michl. - another spelling ? >> Thanks Margot!! They have to be part of my family somehow. Do you know if that means they were living at Castle Matress and Court-Matress at that time? And isn't that right outside Rathkeale? I remember driving thru that area at one point.

I'm going to finally break down and try to find my Neazer in Ireland. I thought I might try the Church Records for Rathkeale since its a pretty good shot that he came from that area. Does anyone know the film name/number from the FHC that would have these records? I found one on line and it was "Church of Ireland, Parish Church of Rathkeale", film no. 897365. Would that be where the Palatines would have been baptized? Any advice would be great! Thanks! Liz

Hi Liz, I can't help with the film, but noticed on a list I have of "Palatine Families in Ireland at a Muster Taken for Six Months Ending the 29th Sep 1720 at Ballingarran, Killaheen, Castle-Mattress and Court-Matress in the County of Limerick" NEYSER, Leonard and NEYSER, Michl. - another spelling ? Sorry, there's no further information, just lists of names taken from "Tenison Grove Papers". Margot Jorgensen, Courtenay B. C.

Hello Fellow Researchers! I am looking for a Sarah TWISS, who went through MOLVILLE, Derry, Eire C. 1880, and ended up in NY. She was a dressmaker. This is the only info. that I have on her. Any suggestions, please? Thank you so very much. Shannah

I think the IPA site is an excellent forum for such a list. Please add my details to it: LeGear - Chris LeGear, [email protected] Chris LeGear

I like Chris's idea of a register of Irish Palatine family "specialists" (rather than "experts", for I don't think many of us could claim that title). Perhaps a simple medium for recording such a register would be a page on the Irish Palatine Association website, www.erin.ie/ipa The site already has a number of links to Palatine name websites, and I would like to expand the number of links. It would be good to also provide e-mail addresses for any specific family "specialists" who would be happy to be contacted. I worry a little about how fully or promptly I and others are able to respond to questions, so some sort of "disclaimer" may be appropriate - perhaps along the lines: All of these specialists are unpaid volunteers. The time and resources available to them for answering questions will vary. They will endeavour to give a prompt initial response, and where appropriate will indicate how soon and how fully they may be able to give a more considered reply. I have responsibility for moving the IPA website forward, and I expect to announce the implementation of some other improvements to the site soon. If anyone would like to be included on the IPA website in a list of such specialists, could you please drop me a note with your name, e-mail address, specialist family, subject or subjects, and perhaps a few words about the scope of your personal interest. My own entry might read: Teskey - Ken McDonald, [email protected], all references world-wide, family newsletter and reunions. I would be pleased to add links on the IPA website to further family websites, so please drop me a note if you have one or know of one. Ken McDonald 2 Greenfields, Stansted, Essex, CM24 8AH, England [email protected] Do check out www.teskey.org My mission is: o To record the history of all people, past and present, with the name Teskey or who are descended from a Teskey family. o To share this history with all living members of those families, and to make the history available for future generations. o To encourage contact between members of the Teskey families. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Hi Chris <[email protected]>, Susan, An interesting idea re IP "roll-call" to give sur/given names researched, including details, e-mail ads, etc. of the "main researcher(s)" to create an accessible List for members. Happy Easter to all, God Bless, Walter(Joan) X. McElligott P.O.B. 161 Peotone, IL 60468-0161 Note new ad: <[email protected]> ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Hi List >From time to time I get e-mails from people who have picked up my name from various sources enquiring about people that I have on my Family Tree, but not necessarily from families that I am particularly researching. For instance, I have a number of IP names occurring in my Tree that I have very little family detail about and consequently would like to refer them to a "Family Expert" where there might be useful mutual contact. Would it not be a good idea to compile an Irish Palatine "roll-call" where the Name being researched and the details (email address etc) of the "main researcher(s)" could be easily accessible to the List members?? Over to you Susan!! Best wishes over the Easter Period to all. Chris Le Gear

Mailed today: McDonald, Penicton :)

Liz, Received manuscript in mail Wed. 4/11/01....Can't wait to take a long leisurely read!! You're 'Super!!"...Thanks again Liz Gail Kirby Mi. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 11:02 AM Subject: [IP] Mailings > Mailed today > > Kirby, Central Lake, MI > Speiran, Oshawa, Ontario > > :)) Thanks for the notes :) > > > ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > Try to do little things in an extraordinary way. > >

Mailed today: Behan, Ottawa :)

Hi Di Martin "Fitz Michael" Switzer was a sonof Michael Schweitzer, original immigrant to Ireland in 1709. Martin b. ca 1712 Court Matrix d. 1787, married a woman known as Mary Elizabeth. Martin's eldest son was named Martin Jr. Martin "Fitz Christopher" Switzer was also called Martin "ye younger". He was a son of Johann Christopher Schweitzer, original immigrant to Ireland in 1709 and a younger brother of the Michael Schweitzer above. This Martin d. 1796 and married Anna Barbara Legier in 1744 and married (2) Catherine Kennedy in 1788. The two "Fitzes" were first cousins so the Fitz would have been used to identify which was which. -----Original Message----- From: JMcIntyre <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, April 08, 2001 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [IP] Palatine manuscript >I hope the answer to this will be posted to the list. I'm not a Switzer >expert either, but I am a descendant. I also wondered about the "Fitz". > JMcIntyre > > >> >> Please forgive me asking another question about this interesting incident >> (below). I notice two of the defendants below, are named: >> >> Martin Switzor FitzMichael >> Martin Switzor Fitz-Christopher >> >> Does anyone understand more about these names? I understand in Ireland that >> "Fitz" at the beginning of a name originally meant "Son of" ("Fitz" being a >> variation of the modern "Fils" in French). In this instance, was the first >> man literally the son of a Michael Switzer and the second the son of a >> Christopher Switzer - or is my imagination leading me astray? I'm not a >> "Switzer" expert!! >> >> Di Mitchell > > >==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== >Try to do little things in an extraordinary way. > >

Here goes: Di's assumption is correct, good on ya Di! Fitz(fits), n , a son. The form occurs now only as a prefix in certain names, as Fitzgerald (son of Gerald), some of which were first given to illegitamate royal children, as Henry Fitzroy (son of the king). [<Anglo-French fitz, Old French fiz or filz < Latin filius son] source:Thorndike Barnhart Dictionary 1969 Clifford M Dubery -----Original Message----- From: JMcIntyre [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, 9 April 2001 6:13 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IP] Palatine manuscript I hope the answer to this will be posted to the list. I'm not a Switzer expert either, but I am a descendant. I also wondered about the "Fitz". JMcIntyre > > Please forgive me asking another question about this interesting incident > (below). I notice two of the defendants below, are named: > > Martin Switzor FitzMichael > Martin Switzor Fitz-Christopher > > Does anyone understand more about these names? I understand in Ireland that > "Fitz" at the beginning of a name originally meant "Son of" ("Fitz" being a > variation of the modern "Fils" in French). In this instance, was the first > man literally the son of a Michael Switzer and the second the son of a > Christopher Switzer - or is my imagination leading me astray? I'm not a > "Switzer" expert!! > > Di Mitchell ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== Try to do little things in an extraordinary way.

I hope the answer to this will be posted to the list. I'm not a Switzer expert either, but I am a descendant. I also wondered about the "Fitz". JMcIntyre > > Please forgive me asking another question about this interesting incident > (below). I notice two of the defendants below, are named: > > Martin Switzor FitzMichael > Martin Switzor Fitz-Christopher > > Does anyone understand more about these names? I understand in Ireland that > "Fitz" at the beginning of a name originally meant "Son of" ("Fitz" being a > variation of the modern "Fils" in French). In this instance, was the first > man literally the son of a Michael Switzer and the second the son of a > Christopher Switzer - or is my imagination leading me astray? I'm not a > "Switzer" expert!! > > Di Mitchell

Please forgive me asking another question about this interesting incident (below). I notice two of the defendants below, are named: Martin Switzor FitzMichael Martin Switzor Fitz-Christopher Does anyone understand more about these names? I understand in Ireland that "Fitz" at the beginning of a name originally meant "Son of" ("Fitz" being a variation of the modern "Fils" in French). In this instance, was the first man literally the son of a Michael Switzer and the second the son of a Christopher Switzer - or is my imagination leading me astray? I'm not a "Switzer" expert!! Di Mitchell ----- Original Message ----- From: G & J Cunningham <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [IP] Palatine manuscript > > I'm intrigued - you say your ancestor Adam Cornelius was a "sod" > stealer??? > > What WAS a "sod stealer"? Was this an issue about cutting turf or peat > for > > a fire that some bureaucrat objected to?? > > Hi Di, > Yes, you have hit the nail on the head. (Aussie slang for you are right) It > was bog, but I said sod to make it nicer <g> > > "Exchequer Bill dated 27 June 1754 (no answer) > Michael Considin, Daniel Brasil & Michael Magrath all of Ballywilliambeg in > co Limerick Plts. > V. > Adam Dulmage, John Dulmage, Martin Switzor FitzMichael, Martin Switzor > Fitz-Christopher, Charles --p, Nicholas Laurence, Adam Miller, Henry Louer, > Nicholas Shior, Adam Fishell, Tobias Fishell, John Crips, Peter Modler, John > Bowen, Jacob Tesky, Adam Cornelius, Christopher Youngman, Henry Sturk, > Christn Sparlin, John Dulmage & Mathew Lagier > Defts. > Plts complain that they are leasehold tenants of the lands of > Ballywilliambeg with its bog all held from Richard Maunsell of Limerick city > on an unexpired lease. > That on 20 May last the Defts armed with slanes spades and pitchforks > entered on said bog and cut turf therein. That on 21 may last the Defts & > 100 others also armed repeated the act. > Plts claim the bog > Plts ask for an injunction." > > There was nothing else about it. > Cheers > Jacqui > Central Victoria, Australia. > www.oldnewscopy.com "It's Old News!" > > > > ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > The greatest influence in your life, stronger even than your will power, > Is your environment. Change that, if necessary. Paramahansa Yogananda > >

david or joy benner wrote: > > Hi, > Package received Port Colborne Ok > Thanks > > ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > The greatest influence in your life, stronger even than your will power, > Is your environment. Change that, if necessary. Paramahansa Yogananda Hi; Pacage received Emo, Ontario. Thanks a bunch. Hugh

> I'm intrigued - you say your ancestor Adam Cornelius was a "sod" stealer??? > What WAS a "sod stealer"? Was this an issue about cutting turf or peat for > a fire that some bureaucrat objected to?? Hi Di, Yes, you have hit the nail on the head. (Aussie slang for you are right) It was bog, but I said sod to make it nicer <g> "Exchequer Bill dated 27 June 1754 (no answer) Michael Considin, Daniel Brasil & Michael Magrath all of Ballywilliambeg in co Limerick Plts. V. Adam Dulmage, John Dulmage, Martin Switzor FitzMichael, Martin Switzor Fitz-Christopher, Charles --p, Nicholas Laurence, Adam Miller, Henry Louer, Nicholas Shior, Adam Fishell, Tobias Fishell, John Crips, Peter Modler, John Bowen, Jacob Tesky, Adam Cornelius, Christopher Youngman, Henry Sturk, Christn Sparlin, John Dulmage & Mathew Lagier Defts. Plts complain that they are leasehold tenants of the lands of Ballywilliambeg with its bog all held from Richard Maunsell of Limerick city on an unexpired lease. That on 20 May last the Defts armed with slanes spades and pitchforks entered on said bog and cut turf therein. That on 21 may last the Defts & 100 others also armed repeated the act. Plts claim the bog Plts ask for an injunction." There was nothing else about it. Cheers Jacqui Central Victoria, Australia. www.oldnewscopy.com "It's Old News!"