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    1. Fw: [IP] Web site
    2. Jack & Mary
    3. Hello all.... welcome to all the new folks... its always wonderful to add another plate to the dinner table for new friends... ..Cyndi|'s List is wonderful... I have also enjoyed the Palatine history sites, that several have mentioned. Must admit, that I sometimes get lost, but have had a wonderful journey.I will try and do my part. Slowly working on our Miller line.... though we do know they are connected to the Sparling family. via .. Jane Miller who married Christopher Sparling.. all we know she moved to Manitoba,Canada. were she is buried...Have been hitting a lot of brick walls... forge on girl I keep telling myself.. the answer is just around that corner. The very best of all... You are the are a group of very special folks. bye Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 9:12 AM PS Yes to List. Yes to Web site. Yes to IPA. That IS all. Terry.

    08/20/2001 03:55:01
    1. Re: [IP] Columbia, California
    2. S. Griggs
    3. Judy, I will have to finish looking at it, as I have tons of messages and my ICQ! Thank you very much for replying! Shannah ----- Original Message ----- From: JMcIntyre <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 10:57 PM Subject: [IP] Columbia, California > Hi Shannah, > > Here's a link that can tell you more than I can. I know when I visited > Columbia many years ago, I loved it. > > Regards, > Judy McIntyre > California > > http://www.sierra.parks.state.ca.us/history.htm > > > ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > Oh, man! There is no planet, sun, or star could HOLD you, > If you but knew what you are! -- Ralph Waldo Emerson > >

    08/20/2001 03:29:47
    1. Re: [IP] Just Hi
    2. Gayle
    3. Hi Connie and ALL I to am new to the list. I just found out my line is in the IP roots too. I am Sparling. My family went to Canada. I am in California. I still can not believe how much I have found out about my family so far. I just hope some day some one in the family will want to go on and do more from where I leave off from. My mother thinks I am nuts, and no one wants me to talk about it much any more. I think they just wish I would keep it to my self. Oh well. It is nice to see that there are others that love to do this as much as I do. I am glad to be able to read all of the great stories you have to share. I think we are all meant to find each other in this way. OUR LOST FAMILIES Gayle in USA Keith & Connie Wilson wrote: > I've been lurking for the last couples of days.... newly subscribed to your entertaining list. Although I have nothing to offer, (I've just recently stumbled into my Irish Palatine roots), I would like to say that the conversation is entertaining and enlightening. I much admire the spirit of cooperation I've seen. > > So in the way of introduction... > > I am IP through my Great-Grandmother's line. Her name was Henrietta Dulmage. So far, I am aware of Dulmage's, Embury's & Roeckel's (Ruckles) kicking around in the family tree. I also have some questions about another family line of Platner's (Blattner's). There are hints of Palantine but I don't know about Irish Palatine? > > There, that's better. I was feeling like a bit like a voyeur. I welcome any family history anyone may have to share and will eagerly pursue the suggestions for research sources I find sprinkled amongst the friendly chatter. > > Thanks > > Connie > > ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list use the following: > [email protected] > Put either the word, subscribe, or unsubscribe in the subject line and body of the message. -- Florence Knightin'Gale <(©¿©)> Member of the RTOG (Round Table OF Goodness) My web page http://members.home.net/skid001/

    08/20/2001 03:19:17
    1. [IP] Irish Palatines Web site
    2. Armand (Jas) Haley
    3. Muriel Baerg. Its nice to know that someone else gets the same reaction when "Palatines" comes up in a conversation; I usually get "you told us before", "yes we know about the Palatines" etc, etc. My connection to the Irish Palatines is through Henry Mich - Micks - Mick. My great (3) grandparents Peter Mick and Elizabeth (Schumacher) Shoemaker and their sons and families came to Canada in 1848 and settled in a village that became known as "Micksburg". Micksburg is located in Stafford Township, Renfrew County, Ontario, South of the city of Pembroke. Armand Haley Stittsville, Ontario Canada BTW. Muriel I grew up in Niagara-on-the-Lake ----- Original Message ----- From: "Muriel Baerg" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [IP] Web site > Terry, > > I'm with you. The Palatine website sounds like a great idea. When I mention > "Palatine" to any of my family or friends they look at me with a dazed look > and say "What's that? Not genealogy again........!" > I'm sure it would be most helpful to the unenlightened among us, not to > mention those who are just beginning their search. > > I noticed in this most recent of your messages the mention of your Bovenizer > cousins. This is just a stab-in-the-dark, but I have been searching for > ages for the Mary Bovenizer, baptised 18 Oct 1767 who married John Switzer 4 > Jan 1785 (both events appear in the Rathkeale register.) I am looking for a > John Switzer, who was the father of my gg.grandfather, Jonathan Switzer of > Croom and eventually of Clarina. If this doesn't ring a bell with you, I > wondered it one of your Bovenizer cousins might know. > > I agree with you - this list is great . > > Muriel Baerg > St.Catharines, Ontario > Canada

    08/20/2001 02:52:13
    1. Re: [IP] Web site - sort of
    2. Is there such a thing as an Adobe Go Dead program? Big wrinkled grin, from Not-so-Hot-toes (somewhere jungly and a-crawl with vile creatures in the vast landmass of Western Europe). Ha. Find me if you dare. Thanks, Cyndi - you're a gem.

    08/20/2001 02:41:03
    1. [IP] Welcome!!
    2. SLWillig
    3. Hi, Connie and Armand and everyone out there in IP Cyber Space! Thank you for posting, you two. We're delighted to hear from you! In fact, all subscribers are invited to post and say, "Greetings", just to allow everyone to get acquainted with you and your IP interests. We have over 150 people subbed to this list... let's hear from lots of you, please! All of us have something to contribute... Connie, this is a great group of pleasant, friendly, helpful folks, all intent on ferreting out IP ancestral information, which is not all that easy to find... (forewarned is forearmed <g>). Looking forward to receiving lots of IP mail in the near future as "lurkers" decide to post and say, "G'day", or "Bonjour", or "Hola", or "Top o' the morning to ye", or just plain, "Hello". It will be great to "meet" each and every one... Wishing each of you the very best of the Best! Susan SLWillig [email protected] List Tender for: NY-WarWashSar; Sullivan Co., NH; Addison Co., VT; IRL-Palatine and surnames lists; L.aursen, G.arfield, E.mpey

    08/20/2001 01:33:57
    1. Re: [IP] Web site
    2. In a message dated 8/20/2001 7:17:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > > > PS Please say YOU'll still talk to me, Liz. You at least. Ogaaarrrrrd. > > ROFL!!!!! Yes, of course! I've been known to peel a few eggs off my face at times, its good for the skin LOL

    08/20/2001 01:30:04
    1. RE: [IP] Web site
    2. In deference to Admin: Hi, Cyndi. Welcome to the List. You will like us - we do not bite at all. Hey, Liz (Nobody else listen, please. This is private). If you want to tread on toes with polish, follow this boy. He does it COLOSSAL. Not only do I have plum jam fingers, I have leaden feet. Talk about a pile-driver to crack a nut.... Oh, God. Omigod. I mean: oh, God. I only put in that bit about C*ndi's List as an afterthought. It was at the end of a paragraph. I thought - what's a big Gene website? Oh, yes...of course. Well, there you go. This boy is a pro-fes-sional. Looking forward to the site, Liz (in NJ) - can I escape there for a while? Oh, God. (I expect HE'll send me an email now, for taking his name...). Keep smiling. For me. T (Lincs, Europe). PS Please say YOU'll still talk to me, Liz. You at least. Ogaaarrrrrd.

    08/20/2001 01:15:12
    1. [IP] claim to shame
    2. trev-hazel
    3. Oh Terry Just off IP subject for one minute if I may - you may believe that you are not a technical wizard on the box but I bet you don't have to walk down the street with your head hanging low, simply because you are the only dumbo in the whole world who has had to admit defeat and return the transcribed fiches you were checking for the 1891 census. Oh such shame as we are currently experiencing, we scuttle around Tesco in two minutes flat, fingers pointing as we go, people whispering, saying - "there goes that couple who, shock horror, couldn't cope with the 1891 chekcens" We will never live it down. Put a pen and paper in my hand and I will help the 2009 jamboree with whatever I can - but please don't let it involve any software. Hazel (and a subdued Trevor)

    08/20/2001 12:57:01
    1. [IP] Just Hi
    2. Keith & Connie Wilson
    3. I've been lurking for the last couples of days.... newly subscribed to your entertaining list. Although I have nothing to offer, (I've just recently stumbled into my Irish Palatine roots), I would like to say that the conversation is entertaining and enlightening. I much admire the spirit of cooperation I've seen. So in the way of introduction... I am IP through my Great-Grandmother's line. Her name was Henrietta Dulmage. So far, I am aware of Dulmage's, Embury's & Roeckel's (Ruckles) kicking around in the family tree. I also have some questions about another family line of Platner's (Blattner's). There are hints of Palantine but I don't know about Irish Palatine? There, that's better. I was feeling like a bit like a voyeur. I welcome any family history anyone may have to share and will eagerly pursue the suggestions for research sources I find sprinkled amongst the friendly chatter. Thanks Connie

    08/20/2001 12:49:54
    1. Re: [IP] GROVES TRANSCRIPTS #V
    2. S. Griggs
    3. Teryy, I was wondering, if, you had anything on: Rt. Hon. Thomas BRODERICK esq., enclosed. Again, I had written you a couple of weeks ago on the surname of TWISS, enquiring, if, you had anything on this Family. I do realize you are quite busy, but, was wondering, what, then are you, or, how you are going to set up the Families which you had mentioned in your last message who were of the PALATINE Familes? Thank you very much. Shannah ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 4:56 PM Subject: [IP] GROVES TRANSCRIPTS #V > Hello, more antique goodies - if you're of a mind. . . . . > > [V#: Whilst we were careful to reproduce the 'Heads of Palatine Families in > Ireland' lists, compiled in 1720, for our main focal areas (Ballingrane, > Courtmatrix, Killeheen, Castlematrix and Ballyrigin - Archives 3-4 July 2000, > q.v.) we omitted to give the lists for the remaining families. Since these > are obviously of interest to their descendant researchers here on our own > List, it seems only reasonable to include them now - just in case anyone > thinks we might have forgotten. > > It's pointless trying to do columns, because the HTML thing just jiggles it > all around, so all you need to do here is tab once or twice after any names > running in sequence on certain lines. > > By the way, there are also some outstanding Lists for the 1766 Religious > Census and these will be posted very soon in another batch of Groves > Transcripts] > > ***START HERE*** > > Parliamentary Collection Bundle 68, No. 1 in the Record Office, Dublin. > > A List of the Palatine Families in Ireland at a Muster for six months ending > the > 29th of September, 1720 > > With Major Rand: Clayton at MALLOW > > Fredk. Hess Margt. Fock > > With the Rt Hon Alan Lord Visc Middleton at ELFORDSTOWN, in the county of Cork > > Fredk. Berge Henrick Meyer, sen Henrick Meyer, jun > Ann Kath Walton > > With the Rt Hon Thos Brodrick esq at or near MIDDLETON in the county of Cork > > Michl Johan Andrew Schmidt > > With Abel Ram esq at ROSS in the county of Wexford > > Kath Gollyday Phil Jeakle John Geo Hartwick > John Hess Ann Jacobus Geo Kough > Geo Hartwick Kath Kough Jacob Jacobus > John Yern Horn Ann Miller Jacob Writer > Peter Hofeman Hans Writer Geo Jacobus > > With Abel Ram esq at GOREY in the county of Wexford > > Mary Ashbagh John Poole Mathw Sheafer > Philip Altimus Jacob Poole Geo Swartz > Hans Geo Crouse Wm Poole Mathw Tyse > Peter Berner Henry Reynholt Geo Wolf > Margt Green John Rapell Henry Wise > als Ring John Caspar Real Jacob Wyse > Mathew Hofeman Jacob Ryling Mary Young > > With Edw: Lawndy esq at MUCKERIDGE near Youghal > > Katherine Bisherne Walter Bisherne John Bisherne > > With Mr Edw Browne at EVELARY in the county of Cork > > Phillip Crow Peter Richard Mary Reossnach? > John Long Michl Richard John Bernd Steeble > Hans Richard Francis Richard Rodolp Walter > > With Mr Edw Browne at BALLYROSHINE in the county of Cork > > David Paul Peter Slater John Switzerling > > With Mr Theodore Vansevenhoven at BALLYNACORN in co Cork > > John Sultze Henry Paul Michl Miller > Ann Hester Stingill John Ludolt Godfrey Shultz > > With (the) Rt Hon Lieut (General Fred)k Hamilton (at WALWORT)H near > Londonderry (in co Londonderry) > > Fredk Barkloitne > > With Saml Waring esq at WARINGSTOWN near Loughbrickland (in co Down) > > Stephen and Barbara Nitchburne > > With Mr Justice Caulfield at Dunamon near Roscom(m)on > > Gerd Becker > > With John Copley esq at SPRINGFIELD in the county of Limerick > > John Jost: Koning > > With Michl Ward esq at KILLOUGH near Downspatrick > > Ursula Rosine > > With the Rev Father in God Ralph Lord Bishop of Dromore > > Jacob Lambert > > With Mrs Charity Graham at PLATTIN near Drogheda > > Phillip Boller > > On DUBLIN List > > Anne Beever Wm Kline Klix Sheafer > Anna Holbach Geo Glazier Danl Miller > Mary Stresser John & Mary Ross Francis Kirkhover > Henry Sheafer David Wentz > > ABSTRACT > > 103 with Lord Southwell 1 Gen Hamilton > 2 Major Clayton 1 Samuel Waring esq > 4 Lord Viscount Middleton 1 Mr Justice Caulfield > 2 The Rt Hon Thos Brodrick esq 1 John Copley esq > 35 Abel Ram esq 1 Michl Ward esq > 3 Edward Lawndy 1 Lord Bishop of Dromore > 12 Mr Edward Browne 1 Mrs Graham > 6 Mr Theodore Vansevenhoven 11 DUBLIN List > 185 Total > > At the Muster taken for 6 months ended the 25th March 1721 2 of Lord > Middleton's and 4 of Mr Vansevenhoven's families were removed to Jo: Walcott > esq to CROAGH in county Limerick and by the Death of David Miller of DUBLIN > List > The NUMBER of FAMILIES is reduced to 184 > > Unsigned endorsed > > The Number of Palatine Families in Ireland > for a year ended the 25th of March 1721 H-16 > > Pa D6 No B1 > > ***END HERE*** > > [Bye bye > > Terry] > > > ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > List Administrator: > Susan Laursen Willig > [email protected] > >

    08/20/2001 12:35:29
    1. Re: [IP] web site
    2. In a message dated 8/20/2001 4:49:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Go for it, girl! <lol> > > Hey Hot-toes! :) Thanks! I'll try to get it started this weekend. I > can't promise that it will be the most technologically advanced web page on > earth, but it will be understandable and not ostentatious. I despise > frames, so don't expect any. I like the tabs idea and if I can figure out > how java works, I'll try to incorporate it down the line. I'm taking a > course in Adobe Go LIve soon (if the school can ever get the teacher to fix > a date) and that should help. Right now I'm using Adobe Pagemill, a simple > easy to use web site program. > > As for Chris's request for $5m, the check is in the mail....hrnk hrnk :) > > And no Terry, you can't use "hunk" for women :) sorry!! And not being a > guy, I'm not quite sure what men use to describe women in the US. Babe? > Hot? Dish? LOL What do they use in England? > > As for the reunion, I'm up for whatever the group decides! If the IPA is > running it, its fine with me, if we run it, thats fine with me as well. > I'm flexible. > > And whats this?? Is Cindi Howell a Palatine???? "THE" Cindi Howell??? The > one from ABC News and Time Magazine fame?? We're cool now! :)

    08/20/2001 12:27:26
    1. Re: [IP] TWISS
    2. S. Griggs
    3. Berta, I wish to thank you so very much for the enclosed! Do you live in Eire, or, the States? I live in British Columbia, Canada. If you find out anymore on Your Branch, please, send it my way at the enclosed addy, or, at: [email protected] Or, it may be 47, I can not seem to remember it all the time! :) May, I please, pass on your name and addy to other TWISS members who are researching the TWISSes in Eire? You may pass out my name and addy to other TWISS researchers. Also, do you know of any other TWISSes in Eire, and, espcially any who are researching Our Tree? Please, keep in touch, as I will you! Lastly, would you like a copy of what I have on Our TWISS family in Eire? If so, please, send me your SNAIL MAIL. Thank you very much. Cousin Shannah ----- Original Message ----- From: alberta callender <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 3:22 AM Subject: [IP] TWISS > Hello Twiss researchers. > My Mum's sister Dora Micks married Edmund Twiss and > lived at Dangan Mill House (now Manor!) Thomastown, > Co. Kilkenny. They were married in the early l920s. I > think he may have been a widower so are there any > family out there! He probably died in the late l920s > or 30s and she died in the late l930s or early 40s. I > have researched and written up my Mum's MICKS/DOUPE > family Tree but could not find the dates of their > s anywhere. I would love to include them. I was told > they had married in a Register Office but Dora's Mum > insisted they got married again - properly - in > Church, which they did in St. Michael's Church > Limerick. Berta > > ____________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk > or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie > > > ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > My folks didn't come over on the Mayflower, but > they were there to meet the boat. Will Rogers > >

    08/20/2001 12:08:33
    1. Re: [IP] Abjectness at its most grovelling
    2. Cyndi Howells
    3. At 05:13 PM 8/20/2001 -0400, you wrote: >Cyndi > >Ouch. > >I love you. Really. > >Here's how it is: you've helped me enormously - at no charge. I was being >facetious. >If it's possible to say this to a lady without feeling an even bigger cretin, >it's just that you're so BIG. Terry - Yes, I know. All the women in my family tree have ample hips. I just love genetics. <g> >God, friends. Where do I go now? > >Terry (Lincolnshire UK) > >Come and get me if you want. > >Most people can't find Lincolnshire. So there I can. But, I missed you. We were in Lincolnshire just three weeks ago. Mark did some research in Grantham at the Queen's Royal Lancer's Archives on the Territorial Army base. It is a beautiful countryside in which you live! BTW, your idea for a companion web site to the mailing list is spot on. It is the best way to coordinate the research efforts of everyone in the group, particularly in the case of a common research interest such as the Palatine. Successful surfing, Cyndi

    08/20/2001 11:21:47
    1. [IP] Abjectness at its most grovelling
    2. Cyndi Ouch. I love you. Really. Here's how it is: you've helped me enormously - at no charge. I was being facetious. If it's possible to say this to a lady without feeling an even bigger cretin, it's just that you're so BIG. God, friends. Where do I go now? Terry (Lincolnshire UK) Come and get me if you want. Most people can't find Lincolnshire. So there

    08/20/2001 11:13:36
    1. [IP] Cyndi's List and URLs
    2. SLWillig
    3. Hi, Terry and all - ><<Cyndi - I love you. Really. >> You're not the only one... ! Cyndi is nothing short of awesome. ><<Here's how it is: you've helped me enormously - at no charge. I was being >facetious.>> Cyndi has been of immeasurable help to thousands... probably hundreds of thousands of people. Cyndi is the very same Cyndi Howells of "Cyndi's List" fame. She is new to our IP group just today, and she's already being a great blessing to all of us in a direct way!! <<God, friends. Where do I go now?>> Terry, by this shall we infer that you'll be fully occupied visiting all those URLs for weeks to come? <g> Here is the URL for Cyndi's incomparable web site: http://www.cyndislist.com/ If you have never visited Cyndi's list, then you've missed something MARVELOUS! It is a must-see, regardless of the areas to which your genealogical research has taken you. Thank you for posting, and thank you for joining the IRL-PALATINE list, Cyndi! Please, everybody, join in welcoming Cyndi to this terrific IP group. All the best, Susan SLWillig [email protected] List Tender for: NY-WarWashSar; Sullivan Co., NH; Addison Co., VT; IRL-Palatine and surnames lists; Laursen, Garfield, Empey

    08/20/2001 08:36:56
    1. Re: [IP] Web site
    2. Muriel Baerg
    3. Terry, I'm with you. The Palatine website sounds like a great idea. When I mention "Palatine" to any of my family or friends they look at me with a dazed look and say "What's that? Not genealogy again........!" I'm sure it would be most helpful to the unenlightened among us, not to mention those who are just beginning their search. I noticed in this most recent of your messages the mention of your Bovenizer cousins. This is just a stab-in-the-dark, but I have been searching for ages for the Mary Bovenizer, baptised 18 Oct 1767 who married John Switzer 4 Jan 1785 (both events appear in the Rathkeale register.) I am looking for a John Switzer, who was the father of my gg.grandfather, Jonathan Switzer of Croom and eventually of Clarina. If this doesn't ring a bell with you, I wondered it one of your Bovenizer cousins might know. I agree with you - this list is great . Muriel Baerg St.Catharines, Ontario Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [IP] Web site > Hi > > Here's a thought. > > But, as usual, it's a bit long-winded and possibly at times a little > overweening. But who cares? I've found a platform. You can push me off or > just walk by. (It's still shorter than a Rootsweb Review). The choice is > yours. I feel sure there must be some out there who think "why doesn't he go > away and write a column for the Irish Ancestor, or something". Well, I know > they wouldn't have me, for a start - and anyway, I'm happy here. > > I don't know about you, but this splendid List is SO consuming. > > I know, for instance, that I can wake up and sit in the kitchen finding my > head for an hour or so in the morning; I can then cart a coffee upstairs to > my ever more sublime office and call up the ISP for e-mail. Almost invariably > there is something, but even on quiet days the leaden heartbreak of > abandonment no longer assails me. I just know you're there. > > I'll bet you all remember the strangled message of despair to the List back > in - was it June? - when one regular caller (speaking for us all) asked, with > an audible croak, if somebody had "unsubscribed" her…. Quietly, almost > surreptitiously, out of the sweltering depths of AridZona came the cool reply > of reassurance from Admin: easy - everyone's hunkered down from the heat. And > the world came back from a bag of shattered dreams as (even in the torrid > rains of July in England) everyone calmed down and settled in front of their > scrapbooks for the time being. > > My postlady has accused me of gross, uncaring disloyalty and even snubs me > occasionally - just because I no longer crash down the driveway like a > maddened bull mastiff to relieve her of armfuls of map tubes, BMD copies and > books, CDs and similar gene trinkets. My delightfully tolerant wife, Wendy > (not of known German descent) humours my little pastime with the crushing > smile of the woman scorned. Friends race to the other side of the street at > my approach because, they say, my eyes glaze over when the topic fails to > touch upon roots and ancestry and like obsessions. > > I now find there are even more things in life to forget, or overlook. No-one > is more acutely aware than I of the fact that there was a Johan Georg > ALTHEIMER (Hs. & V. etc) in the Board of Trade lists in 1709. Don't > misunderstand, I'm not mocking that condition of senility - it ravaged the > last five years of my father's life, but nobody laughed louder about it than > he. > > The whole point of the genealogical exercise is lost to some degree, I > suppose, now that my children and grandchildren no longer get their birthday > greetings on time - although I am still the one most relatives refer to when > a critical date is needed. > > Let's face it. I have lived and breathed Palatine since I was a whimper in a > diaper (nappy doesn't have the same lyrical touch). Me Daddy talked of > nothing else. I was taking copious notes from the age of 3 - once I'd got > (gotten?) the pencil the right way round. I was hauled off to Rathkeale a > decade later but failed the comprehension test with dismal colours. Even the > flying trip to Drogheda to meet my Bovenizer cousins raised little more than > a wisp of curiosity. It's taken me 50 years to patch up that significant gap. > > I've already talked of the seven ages of Piper, but my adolescent years > remained largely unencumbered with the taradiddle of family trees; I just got > down to the serious business of name propagation in my own preferred way. > > Am I wandering off the real subject of this message? I don't think so - it is > just my tortuous way of getting back to the matter that's been swirling > around in my head all weekend (after I'd finished unloading the copious IP > mailbox - my bill for printer toner has shot up since I found the List). > > Ah, yes. The List. > > Liz put forward the tentative notion of a Palatine Web Site. It's a brilliant > idea - and the sheer simplicity of the solution (to avoid toe-crushing) seems > to be this: the very strong community that has forged itself through the List > over the past 18 months or so could never be seriously threatened. Whatever > happens on the sidelines, the List is our permanent bonding medium. It would > never be redundant. I see it as the back-office of life, if that doesn't > sound too pompous, or silly. > > The Web site could be our showpiece - our shop-window on the Palatine > world…NOCOST.COM on a sliding undercarriage. Gone the insular, parochial, > slow-coach route of the single-surname search. We now have enough original > Palatine contributors to re-create Rathkeale through the Internet. And, of > course, Kilfinane, Brock, Camden Valley and so forth, not to overlook - as > always seemed to be the case in the past - our Antipodean cousins. > (Incidentally, one very fine lady in NZ recently did me a look-up in > Griffith's Valuation and yielded FIVE putative ancestors in Co. Limerick. Now > that's cool.). > > We already have Ruckles, Sparlings, Teskeys, Fitzells, Starks, Switzers, > Imphys, Corneils and TWISSS - plus scores of others. The Web Site could be > our Castlematrix courtyard - with the List as our meeting-house under the > pear tree and the IPA as the blessed Divinity, with the authority and > influential contacts which we, as individuals, lack. NO SORE TOES. And Chris > as Burgomeister. > > On the joyful route to 2009 (the Diaspora reversed) we can bring everyone > even closer together - whether with a gene to share or just an interest. > There must be Schnitzerlings and Doups somewhere out there just fighting to > get back in … as I did. I visualize a Web site that is fast and efficient. > One that works (there aren't many). Ken has offered his expertise, Susan has > pushed forward her chair, whilst the treasured Liz has the IGP in Clare > (whatever that is…in truth I ought to know - here's why): > > In another life I work from home as a translator in IT and telecoms - I can > arrange my day as I choose, which is why it might sometimes seem that I have > too much time on my hands. Not so. Something has to pay for the beans and the > brandy (which, you might be fascinated to learn, I am no longer allowed to > touch; no, not the beans - but that's another story, I'll tell you in June > 2009 if you're keen to know). > > Anyway (and here's another confession) the reason I don't leap forward as a > volunteer webmaster, or whatever, is that whilst I can tell you all about the > "plesiochronous digital hierarchy" and satellite communications and the > acronym for ISDN in French or Spanish, I am an absolute donkey when it comes > to the practical application of all that garnered wisdom. My fingers turn to > plum jam if I'm expected to do anything more on a keyboard than just type > words. I can tell you how to splice optical fibres (and fibers), how to patch > up telephone exchanges (or central offices) and I can help you lay out your > entire LAN, if you wish (even in Russian, if necessary - although not > German). > > But I can bring a scanner to a sullen standstill at the bat of an eye. I have > probably fouled up more websites worldwide through my own incompetent > downloads than there are Fs in Palatine. Ken will vouch for the fact that > even with the finest software on my system I still can't read Excel files. I > am simply not safe near a computer when I'm invited to stray outside the > mailroom. So, there you have it. If you value your pics and maps, post them > to Liz for the Website - not me. I can do the other valeting and footslogging > jobs, with pleasure and not a little devotion. I am the antithesis of a nerd. > > Back to the topic I chose to invoke at the outset. > > The site could have tabs or windows for our many individual family trees - a > veritable pool of all the data we've collected on our own for the benefit of > others; a tighter merge-sorted list of Rotterdam departures and London > arrivals; negotiated links to the best sites of direct Palatine relevance > (the Townlands data base, on-screen maps, memorabilia and photographs - not > everyone can get to the Museum in Ireland and some people are understandably > reluctant to donate their treasures - together with plans and invitations for > the 2009 junket), etc. Bye bye Cyndi's List. > > Meanwhile, backstage we could babble away as usual and encourage more names > to come out of the undergrowth. It would be an absolute scream if we could > re-assemble all the key families of, say, the remaining 791 in Dublin and > 'disposed into the country' in February 1710, as Tenison Groves reminded us. > > Whoops - there you go, you see. In my excitement, I mistyped Tenison as > tension (which is something we don't encounter on the List, by the way. No > pressure. No sweat, but still dynamic). We might even find out what happened > to the absconders, the poor returned Catholics, those who loitered in London, > the settlers in the New Territories and so on. > > Well, that's all. Should do for a month, I think. > > Must go now - there are chores awaiting this liberated man (a steaming bowl > of dishes, cardboard washing to bring in from the sun, plumber to pay, the > cat to iron and so forth). > > Bye bye > > Who else? > > PS Yes to List. Yes to Web site. Yes to IPA. That IS all. Terry. > > > ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list use the following: > [email protected] > Put either the word, subscribe, or unsubscribe in the subject line and body of the message. >

    08/20/2001 08:10:14
    1. Re: [IP] web site
    2. SLWillig
    3. Hi, Liz - > <<Right now I have the IGP County Clare site on Rootsweb. The head of the > > group asked me if I wanted to take another county in Ireland. I instead > > asked him if he would consider having an Irish Palatine site that > > transcends the county boundries.>> And did he say, "Irish WHAT?" as so many folks do? <g> ><<< I didn't want to go ahead with it if I was stepping on anyones toes. ><snip> >... I want to make sure that Susan-in-the-sweltering-desert is ok with it >> Susan's toes, hot as they may be <lol>, are just fine, thank you very much. They do not feel trod upon at all. If you would be so kind as to set up that page for IP info., Liz, that would be terrific. The more we get out the word, the more "cousins" might stumble upon and join our delightful group! And the more who join us, the more who might just have the clue to breaking down others' brick walls. Go for it, girl! <lol> Warm regards, Susan > > as well as any others on the list who might have other ideas or already > > have a web page in place. So let me know if anyone has any > objections. We > > could put the information of the planned get together there as well! > > > > Let me know what you all think. It's up to you. I really really don't >want to step on any toes :)) > >Liz > > > >==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== >Oh, man! There is no planet, sun, or star could HOLD you, >If you but knew what you are! -- Ralph Waldo Emerson SLWillig [email protected] List Tender for: NY-WarWashSar; Sullivan Co., NH; Addison Co., VT; IRL-Palatine and surnames lists; Laursen, Garfield, Empey

    08/20/2001 07:48:07
    1. Re: [IP] Web site
    2. SLWillig
    3. >Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 13:29:56 -0600 >[email protected] >From: Cyndi Howells <[email protected]> > > >At 12:05 PM 8/20/2001 -0600, you wrote: >>Terry, >> >>I'm with you. The Palatine website sounds like a great idea. When I mention >>"Palatine" to any of my family or friends they look at me with a dazed look >>and say "What's that? Not genealogy again........!" >>I'm sure it would be most helpful to the unenlightened among us, not to >>mention those who are just beginning their search. >><snip> >>I agree with you - this list is great . >> >>Muriel Baerg >>St.Catharines, Ontario >>Canada > > >Muriel and all - >Just in case you didn't already know about these resources: > > Palatines to America > http://www.palam.org/ > > The Olive Tree Genealogy - Palatine Section > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/pal/overview.shtml > > Upper Palatinate/Oberpfalz > http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/BAY/opf-en.htm > http://www.genealogienetz.de/gene/reg/BAY/opf.html > > The Great Palatine Migration > http://www.zekes.com/~dspidell/famresearch/palatine.html > > Palatine & Pennsylvania-Dutch Genealogy > http://www.ruckel.com/home3.html > > The Irish Palatine Association > http://www.local.ie/content/28303.shtml > > PFALZ. A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in > the Palatine of Germany (area now divided between Saarland, > Rheinland-Pfalz and Hessen, formerly Bavaria's Rhenish Pfalz). > The German name for Palatine is Pfalz. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail_country-ger.html#PFALZ > > The Family History Library Catalog (one continuous URL): > >http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp? > >display=localitydetails&subject=32862&subject_disp=Germany,_Bayern,_Pfalz& > columns=*,180,0 > >Books by Hank Jones: > > The Palatine Families of New York- 1710 > (Winner, Donald Lines Jacobus Prize: Best Genealogical Book > of the Year) > http://www.hankjones.com/palny.htm > > More Palatine Families > http://www.hankjones.com/morepal.htm > > The Palatine Families of Ireland > http://www.hankjones.com/palire.htm > > >Successful surfing, >Cyndi > > > >~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* >Cyndi Howells > Edgewood, Washington > [email protected] > > Cyndi's List of Genealogy Sites on the Internet > http://www.CyndisList.com > > Frequently Asked Questions > http://www.CyndisList.com/faq.htm

    08/20/2001 07:38:23
    1. Re: [IP] claim to shame
    2. SLWillig
    3. Dear Hazel - ><<We will never live it down. Put a pen and paper in my hand and I will >help the 2009 jamboree with whatever I can - but please don't let it >involve any software. >Hazel (and a subdued Trevor)>> Hehehehe... Not to worry, your secret is safe with us - all 145 of us! Right, y'all? Besides, Hazel, there are enough geeks on this list to take up the slack.... computer geeks, microfilm geeks and even microfiche geeks. So, if you have a question, you can ask it here and somebody is likely to have just the right answer or suggestion for you and Trevor. All the best, Susan

    08/20/2001 07:31:42