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    1. [IP] Re: A tiny Teskey update. .
    2. Shirley Alton
    3. Hello, I too have had a hiatus from my genealogy. I envy you your trip to the Pfalz. That is where my research is hung up. I am enquiring as to why I received your email. I was pleased and surprised. My family name from the Palatines is Alton or Altheim. Are the Teskys related or is this a general mailing list . Johann Altheimer came from Germany, thru England to Ireland in 1709. Sent from my iPad > On Feb 20, 2020, at 1:48 PM, Ken McDonald via IRL-PALATINE <irl-palatine@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Dear Cousins, > It's a while since I emailed all my Teskey cousins, so I guess I should start by wishing you a happy 2020. > Whilst my other interests continue to take priority over family research, that does not mean I have lost interest. In September, Janice and I will be joining the Irish Palatine Association's latest tour to the German Pfalz, the homeland of our Teskey ancestors. I hope we may see you there. > I attach a copy of the IPA's information sheet and booking form, just in case you have not already signed up and might be tempted. I am told there are a few places still available. Current non-members of the IPA will have to pay an additional 100 Euros per household for a 3-year membership of the Association. Please let me know if you would like a more detailed itinerary. > Whilst writing, let me draw your attention to some Teskeys who are making waves in the entertainment business. The Teskey Brothers are a successful blues and rock group from Australia. Two of the group really are Teskey brothers - their grandfather was born in Rathkeale. You can easily find them and try their music through a Google search. > Best wishes from a storm-battered United Kingdom.Ken McDonald > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/irl-palatine@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    02/20/2020 02:38:11
    1. [IP] A tiny Teskey update. .
    2. Ken McDonald
    3. Dear Cousins, It's a while since I emailed all my Teskey cousins, so I guess I should start by wishing you a happy 2020. Whilst my other interests continue to take priority over family research, that does not mean I have lost interest. In September, Janice and I will be joining the Irish Palatine Association's latest tour to the German Pfalz, the homeland of our Teskey ancestors. I hope we may see you there. I attach a copy of the IPA's information sheet and booking form, just in case you have not already signed up and might be tempted. I am told there are a few places still available. Current non-members of the IPA will have to pay an additional 100 Euros per household for a 3-year membership of the Association. Please let me know if you would like a more detailed itinerary. Whilst writing, let me draw your attention to some Teskeys who are making waves in the entertainment business. The Teskey Brothers are a successful blues and rock group from Australia. Two of the group really are Teskey brothers - their grandfather was born in Rathkeale. You can easily find them and try their music through a Google search. Best wishes from a storm-battered United Kingdom.Ken McDonald

    02/15/2020 02:33:03
    1. [IP] Re: New subject: Re: The Palatine Families of Ireland - CORNEILLE/CORNELIUS
    2. Hi Trying to reach Pam from Beaudesert, QLD and/or Graham Stewart, London regarding their posts at https://lists.rootsweb.com/hyperkitty/list/irl-palatine.rootsweb.com/thread/4847819/ (now 12 years old!) As I am also descended from Jacob Corneal and Dorothy Delmage I’m happy to be contacted at this address by anyone interested in researching these families R! Roberta Muir, MA (Gastronomy)
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    11/02/2019 05:54:51
    1. [IP] Re: Irish Palatines
    2. Tania Maria Macdonald
    3. Hi Rory, What was the name of your Hoffman ancestor? The majority of Hoffmans lived in County Kerry from mid 18th century onwards. I am a Hoffman so I am interested in knowing which Hoffman line you come from. Happy to assist you with information. Tania Macdonald (Hoffman)

    05/20/2019 05:47:57
    1. [IP] Re: IRL-PALATINE Digest, Vol 14, Issue 9
    2. Patrick Millar
    3. I've been meaning to respond to this thread for a while, so my apologies for the late reply. With regards to the behaviors of the Palatines among the Irish - I've read many of the books mentioned. I believe I've read all of Patrick O'Connors and also many of those related to the Palatines that emigrated to America. There were also a number of family stories passed down that related well to what I've read. In brief, I'd summarize by saying we can look at some of the religious communities that live around us today and probably get a sense for how the Palatines lived. These days I live in Pennsylvania and several of my neighbors are Amish farmers. The more I read of the Palatines in Ireland, the more I get the sense that they lived, in some ways, in a fashion similar to the Amish. They kept themselves to themselves, married within their community and were hard working. They have their own ways and own practices - maintain their own language - and their own beliefs. It's also important to draw the parallel that many of the Amish community's strong bonds were forged because their beliefs were tested during persecution (in their case persecution of the Anabaptists) - and they had strong common experiences as they fled Europe. I don't suggest this analogy should be stretched too far, but it may be helpful as you think about how the Palatines might have lived among the Irish. There are quite a few Amish communities dotted around the USA (and the world, in fact). It may be of interest for you to visit one and see what you think if you have not done so previously. Hope this is of interest to some of you. Best wishes, Patrick Millar (Miller / Muller) ________________________________ From: irl-palatine-request@rootsweb.com <irl-palatine-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 4:02 AM To: irl-palatine@rootsweb.com Subject: IRL-PALATINE Digest, Vol 14, Issue 9 Send IRL-PALATINE mailing list submissions to irl-palatine@rootsweb.com To subscribe via email send a message with subject subscribe and body subscribe to irl-palatine-request@rootsweb.com To unsubscribe via email send a message with subject unsubscribe and body unsubscribe to irl-palatine-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at irl-palatine-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of IRL-PALATINE digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Spirituality of Palatines (Matthew Cupper) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 09:51:46 +0000 From: Matthew Cupper <cupper@unimelb.edu.au> Subject: [IP] Re: Spirituality of Palatines To: "irl-palatine@rootsweb.com" <irl-palatine@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <904322FE-299D-49C6-8A57-39578FC560DC@unimelb.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Patrick J. O'Connor’s book “People make places: the story of the Irish Palatines” (Oireacht na Mumhan Books, Newcastle West, Limerick, 1989) is an excellent reference. Although not answering most your specific questions, O'Conner paraphrases an interesting account of the Palatines of Ballyriggin, Ballyorgan (where my ancestor lived) and Glenosheen (Limerick) from 1776: “Relative to the Irish a far greater proportion of their little farms was put under the plough. They practiced the same innovations in land-working as had come to find expression wherever they went. The potato ground was drilled and so was stubble land that had become worn out. They housed their cattle, feeding them with hay, and thereby produced manure for their little tillage fields. All kept a neat kitchen garden. Their standards of cleanliness and their levels of living handsomely transcended those of their Irish neighbours. They still fed partly upon sauerkraut. They were a proud, independent people who laboured for no one but themselves…and their lives revolved around the intimate confines of their own small farms” My ancestors intermarried with other Palatine families and other Protestants in Ireland, including Huguenot families who had fled Catholic France in the 17th Century. Marriages were according to the rites of the Church of Ireland (Anglican communion). Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 01:35:21 +0000 (UTC) From: Sandra Bartman <sandrabartman@yahoo.ca> Subject: [IP] Spirituality of Palatines To: "irl-palatine@rootsweb.com" <irl-palatine@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <498493544.1446457.1548120921574@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi everyone, Did these Lutherans have customs of celebrating Easter or Chrisrmas that are not typically North American? How did they find peope to marry? What were there marriage practices? How did they greet people? What type did they eat? What stood out about them? Thanks,Sandra Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer To contact the %(real_name)s list administrator, send an email to %(real_name)s-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the IRL-PALATINE mailing list -- irl-palatine@rootsweb.com, send an email to %(real_name)s@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to %(real_name)s-request@%(host_name)s with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. ------------------------------ End of IRL-PALATINE Digest, Vol 14, Issue 9 *******************************************

    02/07/2019 06:55:44
    1. [IP] Re: Spirituality of Palatines
    2. Matthew Cupper
    3. Patrick J. O'Connor’s book “People make places: the story of the Irish Palatines” (Oireacht na Mumhan Books, Newcastle West, Limerick, 1989) is an excellent reference. Although not answering most your specific questions, O'Conner paraphrases an interesting account of the Palatines of Ballyriggin, Ballyorgan (where my ancestor lived) and Glenosheen (Limerick) from 1776: “Relative to the Irish a far greater proportion of their little farms was put under the plough. They practiced the same innovations in land-working as had come to find expression wherever they went. The potato ground was drilled and so was stubble land that had become worn out. They housed their cattle, feeding them with hay, and thereby produced manure for their little tillage fields. All kept a neat kitchen garden. Their standards of cleanliness and their levels of living handsomely transcended those of their Irish neighbours. They still fed partly upon sauerkraut. They were a proud, independent people who laboured for no one but themselves…and their lives revolved around the intimate confines of their own small farms” My ancestors intermarried with other Palatine families and other Protestants in Ireland, including Huguenot families who had fled Catholic France in the 17th Century. Marriages were according to the rites of the Church of Ireland (Anglican communion). Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 01:35:21 +0000 (UTC) From: Sandra Bartman <sandrabartman@yahoo.ca> Subject: [IP] Spirituality of Palatines To: "irl-palatine@rootsweb.com" <irl-palatine@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <498493544.1446457.1548120921574@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi everyone, Did these Lutherans have customs of celebrating Easter or Chrisrmas that are not typically North American? How did they find peope to marry? What were there marriage practices? How did they greet people? What type did they eat? What stood out about them? Thanks,Sandra Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

    01/22/2019 02:51:46
    1. [IP] Spirituality of Palatines
    2. Sandra Bartman
    3. Hi everyone, Did these Lutherans have customs of celebrating Easter or Chrisrmas that are not typically North American?  How did they find peope to marry?  What were there marriage practices? How did they greet people? What type did they eat?  What stood out about them? Thanks,Sandra Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

    01/21/2019 06:35:21
    1. [IP] Re: Spirituality of Palatines
    2. Lutheran They were not Irish. They were German. On 2018-12-28 15:38, John Teskey wrote: > Most likely Lutherans. > > -----Original Message----- > >> From: Sandra Bartman via IRL-PALATINE <irl-palatine@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Dec 25, 2018 7:04 AM >> To: "irl-palatine@rootsweb.com" <irl-palatine@rootsweb.com> >> Cc: Sandra Bartman <sandrabartman@yahoo.ca> >> Subject: [IP] Spirituality of Palatines >> >> Hello everyone >> Could you kindly tell me what faith the Palantines embraced before becoming Wesleyans? In addition, would you mind sharing with me what distinguished their culture from the surrounding other cultures? >> Sincerely,Sandra Bartma >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/irl-palatine@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/irl-palatine@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    01/21/2019 03:10:03
    1. [IP] Re: Irish Palatines - Embury
    2. Jim Baker
    3. Hi Penny, Perhaps you have this info, or it’s not relevant, but I see a Richard Heavener b 20 Nov 1844 in Ardcanny, Limerick to a John Heavener and Lily. This could be a cousin or brother to your John or it’s him! I found on Family Search As I look further it is attached to John Hevnor b 4 Jul 1795 in Ardcanny, with death at the same location undated, with 18 sources cited. Best of luck on your hunt! Jim Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 16, 2019, at 1:36 PM, Penny <hvhpenny59@charter.net> wrote: > > "THANK YOU" - Austin Bovenizer (IPA Chairman) and Rob Barlow (IRL-PALATINE). > > it's me ... Penny Havenor - von Haden (still searching for my great grandfather John Havenor's parents/siblings/ship - John b1821 in Ireland, to North America 1946 (Canada first 14 months), then via Great Lakes to Wisconsin, Illinois, served in the Civil War by working on barges supplying troops for U.S. Government, then a territorial pioneer in the s-e portion of Minnesota. CAN'T find names of parents', siblings or name of ship he came to N America on!!!!!!!!! > > it's me ... Penny Havenor - von Haden of Eau Claire, Wisconsin > > ______________________________________________ > >> On 1/16/2019 4:19 AM, IPA-Info wrote: >> Philip Embury and his Cousin Barbara Heck were Palatine refugees and settled in Ireland as part of the Irish Palatine settlement there. Please read from the Irish Palatine website at http://www.irishpalatines.org/about/methodism.html >> >> The Methodist Church at Ballingrane known as Embury and Heck Memorial Methodist Church is said to be the cradle of American Methodism. It was the Heck family that donated the site. On arrival in NY Philip and Barbara set up the John Street Methodist Church. >> >> Austin Bovenizer - IPA Chairman >> >>> On 16 Jan 2019, at 00:39, Rob Barlow via IRL-PALATINE <irl-palatine@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>> >>> The Embury line came to the UK and embraced Methodism. So much so they travelled to New York and settled in the Mohawk Valley where they stayed until the revolution. The the travelled up into Canada and were loyal to the Crown. They settles in Hay Bay ON just south west of Napanee ON. >>> Rev Robin Barlow >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/irl-palatine@rootsweb.com >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://l

    01/17/2019 12:37:09
    1. [IP] Re: Irish Palatines - Embury
    2. Penny
    3. "THANK YOU" - Austin Bovenizer (IPA Chairman) and Rob Barlow (IRL-PALATINE). it's me ... Penny Havenor - von Haden (still searching for my great grandfather John Havenor's parents/siblings/ship  - John b1821 in Ireland, to North America 1946 (Canada first 14 months), then via Great Lakes to Wisconsin, Illinois, served in the Civil War by working on barges supplying troops for U.S. Government, then a territorial pioneer in the s-e portion of Minnesota.  CAN'T find names of parents', siblings or name of ship he came to N America on!!!!!!!!! it's me ... Penny Havenor - von Haden of Eau Claire, Wisconsin ______________________________________________ On 1/16/2019 4:19 AM, IPA-Info wrote: > Philip Embury and his Cousin Barbara Heck were Palatine refugees and settled in Ireland as part of the Irish Palatine settlement there. Please read from the Irish Palatine website at http://www.irishpalatines.org/about/methodism.html > > The Methodist Church at Ballingrane known as Embury and Heck Memorial Methodist Church is said to be the cradle of American Methodism. It was the Heck family that donated the site. On arrival in NY Philip and Barbara set up the John Street Methodist Church. > > Austin Bovenizer - IPA Chairman > >> On 16 Jan 2019, at 00:39, Rob Barlow via IRL-PALATINE <irl-palatine@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> The Embury line came to the UK and embraced Methodism. So much so they travelled to New York and settled in the Mohawk Valley where they stayed until the revolution. The the travelled up into Canada and were loyal to the Crown. They settles in Hay Bay ON just south west of Napanee ON. >> Rev Robin Barlow >> _________________________________________________________________ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/irl-palatine@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    01/16/2019 11:36:43
    1. [IP] Re: Irish Palatines - Embury
    2. Jim Baker
    3. It appears that my 3rd great grandfather and grandmother were members there. Samuel and Ann Mahalla Baker. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 16, 2019, at 5:19 AM, IPA-Info <info@irishpalatines.org> wrote: > > Philip Embury and his Cousin Barbara Heck were Palatine refugees and settled in Ireland as part of the Irish Palatine settlement there. Please read from the Irish Palatine website at http://www.irishpalatines.org/about/methodism.html > > The Methodist Church at Ballingrane known as Embury and Heck Memorial Methodist Church is said to be the cradle of American Methodism. It was the Heck family that donated the site. On arrival in NY Philip and Barbara set up the John Street Methodist Church. > > Austin Bovenizer - IPA Chairman > >> On 16 Jan 2019, at 00:39, Rob Barlow via IRL-PALATINE <irl-palatine@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> The Embury line came to the UK and embraced Methodism. So much so they travelled to New York and settled in the Mohawk Valley where they stayed until the revolution. The the travelled up into Canada and were loyal to the Crown. They settles in Hay Bay ON just south west of Napanee ON. >> Rev Robin Barlow >> _________________________________________________________________ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/irl-palatine@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/irl-palatine@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    01/16/2019 03:42:54
    1. [IP] Re: Irish Palatines - Embury
    2. IPA-Info
    3. Philip Embury and his Cousin Barbara Heck were Palatine refugees and settled in Ireland as part of the Irish Palatine settlement there. Please read from the Irish Palatine website at http://www.irishpalatines.org/about/methodism.html The Methodist Church at Ballingrane known as Embury and Heck Memorial Methodist Church is said to be the cradle of American Methodism. It was the Heck family that donated the site. On arrival in NY Philip and Barbara set up the John Street Methodist Church. Austin Bovenizer - IPA Chairman > On 16 Jan 2019, at 00:39, Rob Barlow via IRL-PALATINE <irl-palatine@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > The Embury line came to the UK and embraced Methodism. So much so they travelled to New York and settled in the Mohawk Valley where they stayed until the revolution. The the travelled up into Canada and were loyal to the Crown. They settles in Hay Bay ON just south west of Napanee ON. > Rev Robin Barlow > _________________________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/irl-palatine@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    01/16/2019 03:19:56
    1. [IP] Palatines - Embury Line
    2. Fred Hayward
    3. Not all members of the Embury line settled on Hay Bay, only those of the line of David. Philip and Margaret Embury had two surviving children. Catherine married Duncan Fisher in Montreal 1783. A plaque in her honour can be found on the west wall of St. James United Church. Samuel married Catherine Miller and settled initially in Augusta near the Hecks and Lawrences before moving to the St. Armand area of PQ, nearer his father-in-law, Peter Miller. For the most part, their children remained in the Lower Townships with the exception of son Charles who moved his family westward to Minnesota Territory mid 19th C. Margaret Embury had married Jacob Dulmage but died before family came to New York. However many of her family also settled in the Augusta region as well. Peter Embury died before the American revolution (1765) and his children remained in the New York City area.

    01/15/2019 07:49:29
    1. [IP] Irish Palatines - Embury
    2. Rob Barlow
    3. The Embury line came to the UK and embraced Methodism.  So much so they travelled to New York and settled in the Mohawk Valley where they stayed until the revolution.  The the travelled up into Canada and were loyal to the Crown.  They settles in Hay Bay ON just south west of Napanee ON.  Rev Robin Barlow _________________________________________________________________

    01/15/2019 05:39:14
    1. [IP] Re: Spirituality of Palatines
    2. Matthew Cupper
    3. Charles and John Wesley (founders of the Methodism movement) didn’t start preaching in Ireland until 1747. Our Palatine ancestors observed the rites of the Church of Ireland (Anglican communion) before then. Those interested in Irish Palatine culture, see Patrick J. O'Connor’s book “People make places : the story of the Irish Palatines” (Oireacht na Mumhan Books, Newcastle West, Limerick, 1989) Matt (descendant of Hans Jurg Glasser 3rd party of Palatines and Johann Adam Lieger 5th party of Palatines) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 16:56:49 -0700 From: "SLWillig" <Valcour@earthlink.net> Subject: [IP] Re: Spirituality of Palatines To: "'John Teskey'" <lawlib@teleport.com>, "'For researchers of Palatines & Irish Palatines'" <irl-palatine@rootsweb.com>, <sandrabartman@yahoo.ca> Message-ID: <004301d4ac64$d1065ff0$73131fd0$@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hello everyone... Just a tidbit about the Palatines and their chosen religion. Thanks, John Teskey, for the mention of the Lutheran religion and the fact that most of our Palatine ancestors were likely Lutheran. For those Palatines who were invited by the English queen to move to the UK - especially to Ireland, many of those Palatines opted to convert to the Methodist religion. They were heavily influenced by John Wesley... Some became Methodist and remained in Ireland while hundreds of others emigrated from Ireland over to the colonies in groups where they established small Methodist settlements. One example was a group of Palatine Methodists that settled on a land grant northeast of Albany, NY, in what was then Albany County. Albany County later split and the newly created county to the north of the city of Albany (and the now-smaller Albany County) was named Washington County. Just as an additional tidbit: because the English queen had "rescued" those Palatines and then had given them land in what was then Albany County, the newly minted Methodist Irish Palatine's were by and large loyal to the queen when the American Revolution broke out. Their loyalty resulted in many of them having to leave their new Albany/Washington County homesteads to move north to Canada. Susan IP (Irish Palatine) List Admin.

    01/15/2019 02:02:34
    1. [IP] Re: Spirituality of Palatines
    2. Penny
    3. WONDERFUL INFORMATION! THANK YOU, SUSAN. I'm certain all of us interested in the Palatines are grateful to you for this information. it's me ... Penny Havenor-von Haden of Wisconsin ____________________________________________________________ On 1/14/2019 5:56 PM, SLWillig wrote: > Hello everyone... > > Just a tidbit about the Palatines and their chosen religion. Thanks, John Teskey, for the mention of the Lutheran religion and the fact that most of our Palatine ancestors were likely Lutheran. > > For those Palatines who were invited by the English queen to move to the UK - especially to Ireland, many of those Palatines opted to convert to the Methodist religion. They were heavily influenced by John Wesley... Some became Methodist and remained in Ireland while hundreds of others emigrated from Ireland over to the colonies in groups where they established small Methodist settlements. > > One example was a group of Palatine Methodists that settled on a land grant northeast of Albany, NY, in what was then Albany County. Albany County later split and the newly created county to the north of the city of Albany (and the now-smaller Albany County) was named Washington County. > > Just as an additional tidbit: because the English queen had "rescued" those Palatines and then had given them land in what was then Albany County, the newly minted Methodist Irish Palatine's were by and large loyal to the queen when the American Revolution broke out. Their loyalty resulted in many of them having to leave their new Albany/Washington County homesteads to move north to Canada. > > Susan > IP (Irish Palatine) List Admin. > __________________________________________________________________________ > -----Original Message----- > From: John Teskey [mailto:lawlib@teleport.com] > Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 1:38 PM > To: sandrabartman@yahoo.ca; For researchers of Palatines & Irish Palatines > Subject: [IP] Re: Spirituality of Palatines > > Most likely Lutherans. > > __________________________________________________________________________ > -----Original Message----- >> From: Sandra Bartman via IRL-PALATINE <irl-palatine@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Dec 25, 2018 7:04 AM >> To: "irl-palatine@rootsweb.com" <irl-palatine@rootsweb.com> >> Cc: Sandra Bartman <sandrabartman@yahoo.ca> >> Subject: [IP] Spirituality of Palatines >> >> Hello everyone >> Could you kindly tell me what faith the Palantines embraced before becoming Wesleyans? In addition, would you mind sharing with me what distinguished their culture from the surrounding other cultures? >> Sincerely,Sandra Bartma >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/irl-palatine@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >> >>

    01/15/2019 01:38:41
    1. [IP] Re: culture
    2. Penny
    3. Dear Sandra, I would love to be able to answer each and every one of the questions in your text below; however, I fail to locate any parents or siblings belonging to my great grandfather, John Havenor, born 1821 in Ireland, left for North America at age 25, lived in Canada (where?) for 14 months prior to traveling via the Great Lakes to Wisconsin / Illinois / finally settling in Minnesota. My deceased brother mentioned that he thought the Havenor family were a part of the Palatines. Please, advise me as you travel your journey in acquiring the Palatine information, okay? Meanwhile, have a great day! it's me ... Penny *Havenor-von Haden* of Wisconsin On 1/15/2019 12:02 PM, Sandra Bartman via IRL-PALATINE wrote: > Hi Palatine Members, > I know the Palatines are my ancestors on my fathers side.  I would like to have a stronger sense of who they were as a people.  Would those of you who have studies the Palatine's inform me of their culture? What made them unique?  Did they say or do anything that was different or stood out from their neighbours?  Did they celebrate any special days? What were they known for?  I appreciate your help in getting to know my ancestors. > Respectfully,Sandra > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/irl-palatine@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    01/15/2019 12:26:35
    1. [IP] culture
    2. Sandra Bartman
    3. Hi Palatine Members, I know the Palatines are my ancestors on my fathers side.  I would like to have a stronger sense of who they were as a people.  Would those of you who have studies the Palatine's inform me of their culture? What made them unique?  Did they say or do anything that was different or stood out from their neighbours?  Did they celebrate any special days? What were they known for?  I appreciate your help in getting to know my ancestors. Respectfully,Sandra Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

    01/15/2019 11:02:49
    1. [IP] Re: Spirituality of Palatines
    2. SLWillig
    3. Hello everyone... Just a tidbit about the Palatines and their chosen religion. Thanks, John Teskey, for the mention of the Lutheran religion and the fact that most of our Palatine ancestors were likely Lutheran. For those Palatines who were invited by the English queen to move to the UK - especially to Ireland, many of those Palatines opted to convert to the Methodist religion. They were heavily influenced by John Wesley... Some became Methodist and remained in Ireland while hundreds of others emigrated from Ireland over to the colonies in groups where they established small Methodist settlements. One example was a group of Palatine Methodists that settled on a land grant northeast of Albany, NY, in what was then Albany County. Albany County later split and the newly created county to the north of the city of Albany (and the now-smaller Albany County) was named Washington County. Just as an additional tidbit: because the English queen had "rescued" those Palatines and then had given them land in what was then Albany County, the newly minted Methodist Irish Palatine's were by and large loyal to the queen when the American Revolution broke out. Their loyalty resulted in many of them having to leave their new Albany/Washington County homesteads to move north to Canada. Susan IP (Irish Palatine) List Admin. -----Original Message----- From: John Teskey [mailto:lawlib@teleport.com] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 1:38 PM To: sandrabartman@yahoo.ca; For researchers of Palatines & Irish Palatines Subject: [IP] Re: Spirituality of Palatines Most likely Lutherans. -----Original Message----- >From: Sandra Bartman via IRL-PALATINE <irl-palatine@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Dec 25, 2018 7:04 AM >To: "irl-palatine@rootsweb.com" <irl-palatine@rootsweb.com> >Cc: Sandra Bartman <sandrabartman@yahoo.ca> >Subject: [IP] Spirituality of Palatines > >Hello everyone >Could you kindly tell me what faith the Palantines embraced before becoming Wesleyans? In addition, would you mind sharing with me what distinguished their culture from the surrounding other cultures? >Sincerely,Sandra Bartma >Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/irl-palatine@rootsweb.com >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/irl-palatine@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    01/14/2019 04:56:49
    1. [IP] Re: Spirituality of Palatines
    2. Penny
    3. Dear Sandra, My deceased brother told me that he believed our family - HAVENORS - were of the Palantines. He mentioned Germany in relation to the Palantines. My great grandfather (whom I never met) was John Havenor, born 1821, in Ireland. He left for Canada, then United States, around the time of our Civil War. He was employed (per the obituary) by the U.S. Government to work on a barge that traveled the Mississippi bringing supplies to our Union soldiers during that war. His obituary never mentioned his parents nor any siblings. I am wondering whether you have ever come across the HAVENOR family name in all your genealogy sleuthing? it's me ... Penny von Haden of Wisconsin ____________________________________________________________ On 12/25/2018 9:04 AM, Sandra Bartman via IRL-PALATINE wrote: > Hello everyone > Could you kindly tell me what faith the Palantines embraced before > becoming Wesleyans? In addition, would you mind sharing with me what > distinguished their culture from the surrounding other cultures? > Sincerely,Sandra Bartma > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/irl-palatine@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community

    01/01/2019 05:15:38