I am interested in what has been said about the Irish naming of children. I have been lucky enough to find the birth/baptism of my Gr x 3 Grandfather David Morton in the Kilmore parish in Co Cavan in 1762, his parents were Robert and Anne Morton. His brother William was born in 1765 parents Robert and Anne Morton and their daughter Mary was born in 1769 and her parents were named as Robert and William Ann Morton. In 1775 when the family were living in the Killashandra parish in Co Cavan, another daughter Catherine was born and the parents were named as Robert and Willemma Morton. Has anyone any ideas on why Anne would be called William Ann and Willemma, maybe Willemma was written down as a combination of both? Any ideas would be appreciated. Regards Anne Today's Topics: 1. Re: Irish naming of children. (Brian McConnell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 08:08:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian McConnell Subject: Re: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Irish naming of children. To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I have found this to be quite common as well. Something else, not to further complicate this, but I have also encountered use of abbreviations or knicknames. Ones I have encountered include: Ted or Teddy for Edward Bill or Billy for William Jim for James Maggie for Margaret Alec or Alex for Alexander Bob or Bobby for Robert Lilly for Elizabeth Rae for Rachel Tom or Tommy for Thomas Fred for Frederick Joe for Joseph Many of these are to be expected but others a bit different. Brian Marc Rafferty wrote: Great point Jim, and one that I have observed in researching my family. I have learned that many of them are documented by their middle names, and I have been lucky to uncover full names for only about half of my ancestors pre 20th century. Usually, it has been Church records that have revealed the full names. While the naming convention is not always consistent, generally I have found it to be a useful tool in my research. Marc Rafferty ----- Original Message ---- From: Jim C To: Jacqueline Harris ; [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 2:25:48 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Irish naming of children. I don't know if it was because the naming pattern caused too many people to have the same name in the family, but certainly something you need to be aware of is that MANY times an individual went by his or her middle name all their life, and that can sure wreak havoc when you're searching! Jim C -----Original Message----- From: Jacqueline Harris [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 5:28 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Irish naming of children. In the opinion of you all how accurate is the Irish naming pattern? I have ancestors who I don't know 'for sure' if they belong to the family and could it be guide to work with or should I dismiss it. Jackie. Storing memory - no problem Retrieving memory - big problem OPC for North Bovey. Researching: Devon: FROST, GITSHAM, HARRIS, HOWARD, ROWLAND. Ballybay, Co.Monaghan: DUFFY, HAND, MOAN(E), MOEN, MOGHAN, MOHAN, WOODS. N. Yorks: BRANSLEY, EASBY, RUTHERFORD, THOMPSON, WALKER. Northants: DAY, GRIFFIN(G), NUTT, PITTS, UNDERWOOD, WADE. Shropshire: ALLART, DAVIES, GRIFFITHS, JONES, MANSELL, PITTS Anywhere: MOAN(E), MOEN, MOGHAN, MOHAN, MOHUN. Protected by www.SpamJab.com {NYvf5yYjM3TGB5C1dg] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- All new Yahoo! Mail - Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane. ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-MONAGHAN list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the IRL-MONAGHAN mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of IRL-MONAGHAN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 76 ******************************************* Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com