"Tom & Therese Hoare" <thoard@aceconnect.com.au> wrote...... >Can anyone please tell be if these two places are townlands? >There are written on the marriage certificate beside the names of James >McKENNA (Mullib?) and Mary McCALLEN (Drumtork?) my gr.grandparents. The >marriage took place at the RC Church of St Mary's Ballyotrim/tivn/ town?? >It is a very indistinct copy. >I would really appreciate your help. >Therese, in Queensland, Australia. Looks like the placenames were written down as someone heard them spoken. Since there are Callans and McKennas in co. Monaghan, I looked at the townlands there. Some possibles are; For DRUMTORK? and BALLTOTRIM; DRUMTURK and BALLYINTRA in Farney barony. That's in the south of the county, near Carrickmacross. I have a CALLAN ancestor in Carrickmacross. For MULLIB?; MULLADUFF (Clones) - MULLABRACK (Clones, Truah, and Monaghan baronies) - MULLABRYAN (Truagh). Clones is western portion and Truagh is far northern portion of county. Lots of McKennas up there. Go to http://www.exis.net/ahd/mcgeough.htm and see if Ann has a listing for a St. Mary's church in one of those localities. Patrick Traynor, in California's gold-rush country. tray@jps.net TRAYNOR'S Web Page (Irish stuff) http://members.nbci.com/pattraynor/