http://www.seanruad.com/ Hi If you enter Carmeen in the search engine at the above url you will see that it is a townland in Ireland (I think near Newry), so that may just add to the confusion or may provide an answer. Also try the Griffiths Valuation to see where others (brothers uncles?) of the same name were living after he left - perhaps they used to live near the same area. Jack W -----Original Message----- From: Donna E. Ristenbatt [mailto:der@redrose.net] Sent: Tuesday, 16 January 2001 14:02 To: IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Migration Patterns I have been trying for years (unsuccessfully thus far) to find some record of my ROGERS and MORRISON families in Ireland. Notes in my grandfather's Bible, as I have stated, have them coming from County Monaghan and specifically from Emyvale. Back in 1846, could someone give me an idea of how they would have travelled to America? I realize this is the beginning of the Great Famine. Would they have walked, gone down a river, to what port, etc. I am really interested in tracing their travelling route. I am fairly certain they came to NYC as a port, because an older brother to my great grandfather had some children in New York and then the rest were born in New Jersey, USA. I have done all my "homework" on this side of the "Pond." Would really like to find some record of them in Northern Ireland. (They apparently "straddled" the current day boundary of County Monaghan and County Tyrone.) Someone mentioned the Tithe Applotment Books. Since Emyvale was in the parish of Donagh, I would imagine that's where the tithe would be recorded, if I understand this correctly? Unfortunately, the LDS Church seems not to have recorded any record for Donagh during that time period - 1823- 1846 when they left. I would love to find some trace of this family in Ireland - any suggestions greatly appreciated as to what "stone" to uncover next. I should mention that they were Presbyterian, most likely Reformed Presbyterian and the PHS in Belfast has not recorded any Reformed or Seceder Presbyterian Churches. I checked out PRONI - am not sure what would be around Emyvale at that time. One last thing, I have learned to check out *all* possible clues. The slightest thing can be the key that unlocks the door. On my grandfather's *cemetery* record, it has he was born Carmeen, Ireland, not Emyvale. Now, I checked Carmeen on the LDS site, and was told no matches. Does that place not exist? Mispelled perhaps? Thank you. Regards, Donna Ristenbatt ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ der@redrose.net Visit: ON THE TRAIL OF OUR ANCESTORS http://www.ristenbatt.com/genealogy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ships' Lists, PA and Mennonite Research Corner, Dutch Research Corner, Cemetery Lists, Rev. War Loyalists, Finding a Civil War Ancestor, Many Surnames and More!