I would be very grateful if anyone has any idea of where the original Muckno RC parish register might be? I have spent many hours scrutinising the fimed copy trying to link some of my mcArdle ancestors who were numerous in the Annagleve area of County Monaghan. Early entries are very faint and in many cases blurred... I was wondering if any researcher has ever seen the actual register...it now seems to be missing? Many of my relatives gave their children the same names, Philip, James and Patrick were common among the males and Brigid, Mary, Maggie, Catherine and Ellen for the girls... By the way I have listed a number of the McArdle Muckno baptisms so let me know if u want to check, maybe you might be in luck! Thanks Roisin

When the 1846 Royal Irish Constabulary men were transcribed, we discovered that part of the year was on another film. We have now finished the remaining records. The men just added for Monaghan are: WHITE, Wm CLARKE, Saml CAULDWELL, Saml TALLON, Jas MARTIN, Robt SIMPSON, Robt HARRIS, Wm McKENNA, Jno EMMERSON, Stewart SMYTH, John MOORE, Robt MOON, Wm To see more go to: http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/monaghan/military.htm Regards, Christina http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ ===============================

I was pulling some of these out of a film I have for my new email list called IRL-Wicklow-Cemeteries, if you are interested ;) http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-WICKLOW-CEMETERIES.html I grabbed this one for Monaghan. John BURNET of Balelack in Com. Monaghan, Died the 11th of December 1632. He mard Katherin KING by whom He had Thom: who mard Ellenor Dar of Sr Faithfull FORTESCUE Knt; Joan, and Mary BURNET. The language is a bit archaic and these were gentry. Source: Charles T. Lamacraft, Association for the Preservation of the Memorials of the Dead in Ireland, 1910 --------- Christina

My GGGrandfather David King was born, at the beginning of 1814, Drumgoon Parish, Cootehill, County Cavan. This information was given when he enlisted in the army on the 9th January 1835. He gave his age as 21years 0months . I have contacted PRONI and they have searched the registers which they hold from 1802 until May 1814, they then have a gab until 1825. They suggest I contact the Drumgoon Parish Church directly. Does anybody have any contact details for this parish? Sharon (New Zealand)

http://www.cootehill.kilmore.anglican.org/ Dave Hall. On 03/08/2012 10:37, Sharon Prouting wrote: > My GGGrandfather David King was born, at the beginning of 1814, Drumgoon Parish, Cootehill, County Cavan. This information was given when he enlisted in the army on the 9th January 1835. He gave his age as 21years 0months . > I have contacted PRONI and they have searched the registers which they hold from 1802 until May 1814, they then have a gab until 1825. They suggest I contact the Drumgoon Parish Church directly. > Does anybody have any contact details for this parish? > Sharon (New Zealand) > ================================= > > Message Boards: > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Well you'll be happy when you get back as I'm sure everyone will be well behaved in your absence. Have a GREAT holiday!! DH ++++++++++++++++++ On 19/07/2012 18:07, Christina Finn Hunt wrote: > I will be on vacation for the next 10 days. I will try to check > emails, but I can't promise I will have access. > If there is an issue with hacked emails, please just ignore them. I > will moderate when I can. > > Thanks, > Christina > List Admin > =============================== > ================================= > > Message Boards: > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Have a wonderful vacation Christina - well earned! Loretta -----Original Message----- From: irl-monaghan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-monaghan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Christina Hunt Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 2:13 PM To: irl-monaghan@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-MONAGHAN] To Digest Users <<< Subject here Before I go on vacation - If you take the Digest, it is *your* responsibility to change the Subject Heading or start a new email with a fresh Subject line. Either way will work. But don't hit Reply and leave it as Digest number blah blah. Thanks, Christina List admin ================================= Message Boards: http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Before I go on vacation - If you take the Digest, it is *your* responsibility to change the Subject Heading or start a new email with a fresh Subject line. Either way will work. But don't hit Reply and leave it as Digest number blah blah. Thanks, Christina List admin

Tom mentioned Thanksgiving Day "always" being on the fourth Thursday in November. That date wasn't set in stone until Franklin Roosevelt did it by executive order in the 1930s. Before then it was celebrated nationally on the last (sometimes fifth) Thursday or even another date, varying from state to state. --Lee

I will be on vacation for the next 10 days. I will try to check emails, but I can't promise I will have access. If there is an issue with hacked emails, please just ignore them. I will moderate when I can. Thanks, Christina List Admin ===============================

Rebecca Browne has shared some church records for her families from Trinity Church (St Ranoodan's) Kilmore Parish. If this Church is of interest, you can check the entries out at: http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/monaghan/index.htm Click on Church Records. Thanks, Christina

Have a great one! Thank you for all your work, Sharon Sharon Oddie Brown, Roberts Creek, BC, Canada. History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ On 19/07/2012 10:07 AM, Christina Finn Hunt wrote: > I will be on vacation for the next 10 days. I will try to check > emails, but I can't promise I will have access. > If there is an issue with hacked emails, please just ignore them. I > will moderate when I can. > > Thanks, > Christina > List Admin > =============================== > ================================= > > Message Boards: > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My wifes ggrandmother left Ohio on a wagon thain for California not knowing she was pregnant at the time. The journey was long and difficult but she tended to the families needs. Two days after crossing the Mississippi River the baby would wait no longer, ggma who was walking behind to lessen the load slipped off behind a bush and gave birth (it was twins), in a short time as she regained her strength she cleaned up, wrapped the children in her petticoats and ran to catch up with the wagons. ---------- ;-) Just kidding, Thank you all for your tips and comments, I will follow-up on them all. Tom Cassidy ps She left some family behind so I would find her lovely gggrandaughter. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol and Joe Marlo" <carolandjoemarlo@yahoo.com> To: <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:08 AM Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD A Cassiday/Cassidy Puzzle This might depend upon something as apparently unrelated as wedding conditions. I personally knew a couple (now dead) who were married on Thanksgiving Day (always the fourth Thursday in November). There was a blizzard on Wednesday, so the bride and groom, both of whom lived very near the church, slogged through the snowdrifts and were married by the priest with the house-keeper and the sexton as witnesses. No one from either family was able to get to the church.

Well Surnames A + B and D to Z will probably be OK!! Seriously though...I've been looking at Donagh C of I records this evening...page after page well written....then next page a pure scrawl so it just depends on person's writing!! Good hunting!! On 17/07/2012 21:17, Thomas Cassidy wrote: > DH, Thanks for that, I hope they kept good records. TC > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "D H" <hallmark1@utvinternet.com> > To: <irl-monaghan@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 3:24 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-MONAGHAN] A Cassiday/Cassidy Puzzle > > >> Words of Wisdom?? >> >> Try contacting them through their website www.truagh.ie where there are >> contact details for both RC and C of I? >> >> >> Many people got Married by Banns! Not that unusual. >> >> DH >> >> >> >> >>> Subject: [IRL-MONAGHAN] A Cassiday/Cassidy Puzzle >>> >>> >>> For a long time I have been researching my gggrandparents Hugh >>> Cassiday/Bridget >>> McKenna, I have stuck with the CASSIDAY spelling because in the >>> 1860-1870's >>> there were five families registering births in Scotstown, Monaghan using >>> this >>> spelling I am aware that the spelling will vary depending on the >>> transcriber and >>> the more common is CASSIDY. >>> I have found Francis b. 1866 the parents living in Derrynasell East >>> probably >>> with the mothers McKenna family. My ggrandfather Hugh was b.1859-61 don't >>> know >>> where. I have been speculating that my Hugh was one of the early children >>> and >>> Hugh Cassiday/Bridget McKenna were married a few years before that time. >>> Now comes the puzzle, I input the parents names in rootsireland, they >>> gave me >>> an Ellen Cassidy b.Dec. 1850, in Donagh Parish, Monaghan, however their >>> source >>> is shown as microfilm entries 1861-1881? >>> Paying for records I searched for the marriage of Hugh >>> CASSIDAY/Bridget >>> McKenna this brought up Hugh CASSIDY/Bridget McKenna "Church Marriage >>> Record" >>> Nov. 22, 1846, Parish Errigal Truagh, Monaghan, no townland listed, no >>> parents, >>> no relatives, witnesses James McElroy/Mary Kelly. No Church or >>> denomination, >>> Listed at the bottom is "Banns dispensed, Priest : Rev. Paul McCusker >>> CC". I >>> don't know if this indicates it was an actual RC ceremony, shot gun >>> wedding or >>> what. If this is the same couple that were parents of my Hugh and Francis >>> it >>> woiuld indicate 20 years of child bearing. >>> I have found no other children than, >>> Ellen 1850 >>> Hugh 1859-61 >>> Francis 1866. >>> >>> Any words of wisdom out there? Thanks,Tom Cassidy >> >> ================================= >> >> Message Boards: >> http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ================================= > > Message Boards: > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Words of Wisdom?? Try contacting them through their website www.truagh.ie where there are contact details for both RC and C of I? Many people got Married by Banns! Not that unusual. DH > Subject: [IRL-MONAGHAN] A Cassiday/Cassidy Puzzle > > > For a long time I have been researching my gggrandparents Hugh Cassiday/Bridget > McKenna, I have stuck with the CASSIDAY spelling because in the 1860-1870's > there were five families registering births in Scotstown, Monaghan using this > spelling I am aware that the spelling will vary depending on the transcriber and > the more common is CASSIDY. > I have found Francis b. 1866 the parents living in Derrynasell East probably > with the mothers McKenna family. My ggrandfather Hugh was b.1859-61 don't know > where. I have been speculating that my Hugh was one of the early children and > Hugh Cassiday/Bridget McKenna were married a few years before that time. > Now comes the puzzle, I input the parents names in rootsireland, they gave me > an Ellen Cassidy b.Dec. 1850, in Donagh Parish, Monaghan, however their source > is shown as microfilm entries 1861-1881? > Paying for records I searched for the marriage of Hugh CASSIDAY/Bridget > McKenna this brought up Hugh CASSIDY/Bridget McKenna "Church Marriage Record" > Nov. 22, 1846, Parish Errigal Truagh, Monaghan, no townland listed, no parents, > no relatives, witnesses James McElroy/Mary Kelly. No Church or denomination, > Listed at the bottom is "Banns dispensed, Priest : Rev. Paul McCusker CC". I > don't know if this indicates it was an actual RC ceremony, shot gun wedding or > what. If this is the same couple that were parents of my Hugh and Francis it > woiuld indicate 20 years of child bearing. > I have found no other children than, > Ellen 1850 > Hugh 1859-61 > Francis 1866. > > Any words of wisdom out there? Thanks,Tom Cassidy

I think you're misunderstanding this transcribed entry. A look at the original should clarify it. Diane -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Cassidy <casstool@embarqmail.com> To: irl-monaghan <irl-monaghan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Jul 17, 2012 3:35 pm Subject: Re: [IRL-MONAGHAN] A Cassiday/Cassidy Puzzle Diane, I'm aware of that, figured that later at the actual wedding everybody came. This shows at the bottom of the form "Banns dispensed", and lists two witnesses. At the top name of Husband and Wife, the address Errigal Truagh. Then spaces for, Denomination Occupation Age Status Then the same for the parents of each, but all blank. It would be nice if finding information answered some questions rather than adding more. :-) TC ----- Original Message ----- From: <dlculhane@cs.com> To: <irl-monaghan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-MONAGHAN] A Cassiday/Cassidy Puzzle > > Marriage banns are simply announcements that couples intend to marry. > Still printed in parishes today. > > Diane > > > > ================================= Message Boards: http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Diane, I'm aware of that, figured that later at the actual wedding everybody came. This shows at the bottom of the form "Banns dispensed", and lists two witnesses. At the top name of Husband and Wife, the address Errigal Truagh. Then spaces for, Denomination Occupation Age Status Then the same for the parents of each, but all blank. It would be nice if finding information answered some questions rather than adding more. :-) TC ----- Original Message ----- From: <dlculhane@cs.com> To: <irl-monaghan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-MONAGHAN] A Cassiday/Cassidy Puzzle > > Marriage banns are simply announcements that couples intend to marry. > Still printed in parishes today. > > Diane > > > >

DH, Thanks for that, I hope they kept good records. TC ----- Original Message ----- From: "D H" <hallmark1@utvinternet.com> To: <irl-monaghan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 3:24 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-MONAGHAN] A Cassiday/Cassidy Puzzle > Words of Wisdom?? > > Try contacting them through their website www.truagh.ie where there are > contact details for both RC and C of I? > > > Many people got Married by Banns! Not that unusual. > > DH > > > > >> Subject: [IRL-MONAGHAN] A Cassiday/Cassidy Puzzle >> >> >> For a long time I have been researching my gggrandparents Hugh >> Cassiday/Bridget >> McKenna, I have stuck with the CASSIDAY spelling because in the >> 1860-1870's >> there were five families registering births in Scotstown, Monaghan using >> this >> spelling I am aware that the spelling will vary depending on the >> transcriber and >> the more common is CASSIDY. >> I have found Francis b. 1866 the parents living in Derrynasell East >> probably >> with the mothers McKenna family. My ggrandfather Hugh was b.1859-61 don't >> know >> where. I have been speculating that my Hugh was one of the early children >> and >> Hugh Cassiday/Bridget McKenna were married a few years before that time. >> Now comes the puzzle, I input the parents names in rootsireland, they >> gave me >> an Ellen Cassidy b.Dec. 1850, in Donagh Parish, Monaghan, however their >> source >> is shown as microfilm entries 1861-1881? >> Paying for records I searched for the marriage of Hugh >> CASSIDAY/Bridget >> McKenna this brought up Hugh CASSIDY/Bridget McKenna "Church Marriage >> Record" >> Nov. 22, 1846, Parish Errigal Truagh, Monaghan, no townland listed, no >> parents, >> no relatives, witnesses James McElroy/Mary Kelly. No Church or >> denomination, >> Listed at the bottom is "Banns dispensed, Priest : Rev. Paul McCusker >> CC". I >> don't know if this indicates it was an actual RC ceremony, shot gun >> wedding or >> what. If this is the same couple that were parents of my Hugh and Francis >> it >> woiuld indicate 20 years of child bearing. >> I have found no other children than, >> Ellen 1850 >> Hugh 1859-61 >> Francis 1866. >> >> Any words of wisdom out there? Thanks,Tom Cassidy > > > ================================= > > Message Boards: > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Marriage banns are simply announcements that couples intend to marry. Still printed in parishes today. Diane -----Original Message----- From: D H <hallmark1@utvinternet.com> To: irl-monaghan <irl-monaghan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Jul 17, 2012 2:27 pm Subject: Re: [IRL-MONAGHAN] A Cassiday/Cassidy Puzzle Words of Wisdom?? Try contacting them through their website www.truagh.ie where there are contact details for both RC and C of I? Many people got Married by Banns! Not that unusual. DH > Subject: [IRL-MONAGHAN] A Cassiday/Cassidy Puzzle > > > For a long time I have been researching my gggrandparents Hugh Cassiday/Bridget > McKenna, I have stuck with the CASSIDAY spelling because in the 1860-1870's > there were five families registering births in Scotstown, Monaghan using this > spelling I am aware that the spelling will vary depending on the transcriber and > the more common is CASSIDY. > I have found Francis b. 1866 the parents living in Derrynasell East probably > with the mothers McKenna family. My ggrandfather Hugh was b.1859-61 don't know > where. I have been speculating that my Hugh was one of the early children and > Hugh Cassiday/Bridget McKenna were married a few years before that time. > Now comes the puzzle, I input the parents names in rootsireland, they gave me > an Ellen Cassidy b.Dec. 1850, in Donagh Parish, Monaghan, however their source > is shown as microfilm entries 1861-1881? > Paying for records I searched for the marriage of Hugh CASSIDAY/Bridget > McKenna this brought up Hugh CASSIDY/Bridget McKenna "Church Marriage Record" > Nov. 22, 1846, Parish Errigal Truagh, Monaghan, no townland listed, no parents, > no relatives, witnesses James McElroy/Mary Kelly. No Church or denomination, > Listed at the bottom is "Banns dispensed, Priest : Rev. Paul McCusker CC". I > don't know if this indicates it was an actual RC ceremony, shot gun wedding or > what. If this is the same couple that were parents of my Hugh and Francis it > woiuld indicate 20 years of child bearing. > I have found no other children than, > Ellen 1850 > Hugh 1859-61 > Francis 1866. > > Any words of wisdom out there? Thanks,Tom Cassidy ================================= Message Boards: http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Diane, I knew I would get those stories, seems peculiar as the men were off fighting a lot. Also feeding a family of fifteen didn't allow for much leisure time in the pub. I have been searching Tedavnet, not much on line. Theo McMahons Monaghan Ancestry also has the records, he is affiliated with one of the pay sites, I thought it was rootsireland but now I'm not sure. Cobwebs clogging up the brain cells. ----- Original Message ----- From: <dlculhane@cs.com> To: <irl-monaghan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-MONAGHAN] A Cassiday/Cassidy Puzzle > > Twenty years of childbearing not unusual. One of my grgrandmothers had 13 > children over 30 years! Looks like a regular Catholic marriage recording. > > > > You should really check films of the original records if possible, as you > may find more children. Transcribers often miss entries that eagle-eyed > descendants catch. Here's a link to the status of the Errigal Truagh > records: > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/fuses/rcparishmaps/index.cfm?fuseaction=showidrecords&CityCounty=Monaghan&parish=Errigal-Truagh&churchid=309 > > Unfortunately, the LDS haven't filmed Donagh, so you'd have to ask someone > to check the film in Dublin or Belfast for the marriage record. The > version the transcriber provided looks like a shortened version of a > normal Catholic marriage record. The original will probably show > witnesses, possibly also parents. > > Diane > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Thomas Cassidy <casstool@embarqmail.com> > To: fermanagh-gold <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> > Cc: IRL-MONAGHAN <IRL-MONAGHAN@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tue, Jul 17, 2012 11:29 am > Subject: [IRL-MONAGHAN] A Cassiday/Cassidy Puzzle > > > For a long time I have been researching my gggrandparents Hugh > Cassiday/Bridget > McKenna, I have stuck with the CASSIDAY spelling because in the > 1860-1870's > there were five families registering births in Scotstown, Monaghan using > this > spelling I am aware that the spelling will vary depending on the > transcriber and > the more common is CASSIDY. > I have found Francis b. 1866 the parents living in Derrynasell East > probably > with the mothers McKenna family. My ggrandfather Hugh was b.1859-61 don't > know > where. I have been speculating that my Hugh was one of the early children > and > Hugh Cassiday/Bridget McKenna were married a few years before that time. > Now comes the puzzle, I input the parents names in rootsireland, they > gave me > an Ellen Cassidy b.Dec. 1850, in Donagh Parish, Monaghan, however their > source > is shown as microfilm entries 1861-1881? > Paying for records I searched for the marriage of Hugh CASSIDAY/Bridget > McKenna this brought up Hugh CASSIDY/Bridget McKenna "Church Marriage > Record" > Nov. 22, 1846, Parish Errigal Truagh, Monaghan, no townland listed, no > parents, > no relatives, witnesses James McElroy/Mary Kelly. No Church or > denomination, > Listed at the bottom is "Banns dispensed, Priest : Rev. Paul McCusker CC". > I > don't know if this indicates it was an actual RC ceremony, shot gun > wedding or > what. If this is the same couple that were parents of my Hugh and Francis > it > woiuld indicate 20 years of child bearing. > I have found no other children than, > Ellen 1850 > Hugh 1859-61 > Francis 1866. > > Any words of wisdom out there? Thanks,Tom Cassidy > ================================= > > Message Boards: > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > ================================= > > Message Boards: > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message