Yes, Ballybay is in Castleblayney district. Diane -----Original Message----- From: J Torre <jtorre@prodigy.net> To: irl-monaghan <irl-monaghan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, Dec 17, 2012 1:09 am Subject: Re: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Church of St Mary, Annahala, Carrickatee cemetery Hello all, Does Castleblaney district include Ballybay and/or Roo? Like John's Coyles, my Coyles might be from Ballybay/Roo although born in the 1820s. The ones I know about emigrated in the 1840s-1850s and died in NYC. I suspect there were siblings who never left Ireland. Also, the mother of my Patrick Coyle (born about 1820, arrived NYC before 1850) possibly died there. Her name was Catherine McCabe according to Patrick's death record. Patrick's father, Owen Coyle, was listed as a widower age 70yrs living with Patrick in NYC's 1855 census. Thank you, Jeanne ----- Original Message ----- From: dlculhane@cs.com To: irl-monaghan@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 6:56 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Church of St Mary, Annahala, Carrickatee cemetery Have you already checked the civil birth and records on familysearch (Castlblayney district)? 1901 and 1911 censuses should also help. Diane ================================= Message Boards: http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes you are correct...just realized that after I posted! Of course I could pretend I posted that just to see if anyone noticed!! LOL No, I don't think anyone is photographing RC Cemeteries in Monaghan, there is a nice cemetery at this church, had it photographed but had to delete them to make space on camera memory card to get Killeevan Cemetery for myself. DH Re: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Church of St Mary, Annahala, Carrickatee cemetery /Date:/ Sun, 16 Dec 2012 12:09:09 -0500 // D.H. - these photos on IGP are from a different St Mary's in Clontibret:

I have a cousin only a couple of miles away from there. Will ask for a favor to take a look (weather depending). :) Mike Carragher -----Original Message----- From: irl-monaghan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-monaghan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JJG Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 8:07 AM To: irl-monaghan@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Church of St Mary, Annahala, Carrickatee cemetery I have learned just today that many of my family are buried in Carrickatee graveyard at St Mary church, about 9 kms south of Ballybay, Monaghan. If anyone lives near there or has photographed graves there, I would be grateful for information about Patrick COYLE, Owen COYLE, and Margaret COYLE, all buried there. I have approximate dates for their births, but nothing about their death. Patrick COYLE was born about 1886 in Roo; Owen about 1881; and Margaret around 1890. From what I have learned, Patrick COYLE's wife is also buried with him in Carrickatee, but I do not know her first name. I am looking for any and all information from their gravestones, including the correct date of birth and children, if any. (I submitted this the other day, but I may have sent it to the wrong address.) John Grimes ================================= Message Boards: http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

D.H. - these photos on IGP are from a different St Mary's in Clontibret: On Google Maps: http://preview.tinyurl.com/d3mosfq Parish website: http://www.sacred-hearts.net/our-work/5-st-marys-clontibret-co-monaghan I don't see any listing at IGP for the St Mary's in Carrickatee which is part of Aughnamullen Parish: Photo of church on Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/monaghan_ireland/1829125183/in/pool-monaghanchu rches Carrickatee Church on Google Maps: http://preview.tinyurl.com/blzy565 I'm going to recommend to Christine at IGP that a location link and GPS coordinates be added to cemetery listings. Regards, Mike Carragher -----Original Message----- From: irl-monaghan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-monaghan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of D H Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 6:02 PM To: irl-monaghan@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Church of St Mary, Annahala, Carrickatee cemetery Well there are only 4 pics on IGP... http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/monaghan/photos/tombstones/st-marys/i ndex.html DH I have learned just today that many of my family are buried in Carrickatee graveyard at St Mary church, about 9 kms south of Ballybay, Monaghan. If anyone lives near there or has photographed graves there.... ================================= Message Boards: http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you for looking....none of these are mine but you never know where info will turn up. Geraldine ________________________________ From: D H <hallmark1@utvinternet.com> To: irl-monaghan@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 6:02:21 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Church of St Mary, Annahala, Carrickatee cemetery Well there are only 4 pics on IGP... http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/monaghan/photos/tombstones/st-marys/index.html DH I have learned just today that many of my family are buried in Carrickatee graveyard at St Mary church, about 9 kms south of Ballybay, Monaghan. If anyone lives near there or has photographed graves there.... ================================= Message Boards: http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well there are only 4 pics on IGP... http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/monaghan/photos/tombstones/st-marys/index.html DH I have learned just today that many of my family are buried in Carrickatee graveyard at St Mary church, about 9 kms south of Ballybay, Monaghan. If anyone lives near there or has photographed graves there....

Hello all, Does Castleblaney district include Ballybay and/or Roo? Like John's Coyles, my Coyles might be from Ballybay/Roo although born in the 1820s. The ones I know about emigrated in the 1840s-1850s and died in NYC. I suspect there were siblings who never left Ireland. Also, the mother of my Patrick Coyle (born about 1820, arrived NYC before 1850) possibly died there. Her name was Catherine McCabe according to Patrick's death record. Patrick's father, Owen Coyle, was listed as a widower age 70yrs living with Patrick in NYC's 1855 census. Thank you, Jeanne ----- Original Message ----- From: dlculhane@cs.com To: irl-monaghan@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 6:56 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Church of St Mary, Annahala, Carrickatee cemetery Have you already checked the civil birth and records on familysearch (Castlblayney district)? 1901 and 1911 censuses should also help. Diane

I have inherited the Rootsweb CMC list from Don Kelly. This list was originally created to be an adjunct to the CMC project which was an online project for Christening, Marriage and Cemetery records. The project is no longer online and the records there appear to be lost. So the question is - what to do with the list? After thinking about it I felt it might be worth it to try and revitalize this list. We will call it CMC for Church, Memorial and Cemetery. I think Church covers marriages. Memorials can be and often are located in a church (like plaques), and Cemeteries covers well...Cemeteries. That covers the original topics. So, the list will be a place to ask about cemeteries and church records anywhere in Ireland. If you would like to join and ask questions or provide advice, the page with joining information is at: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/IRL/CMC.html If you need help joining...drop me a line OFF list. chrisnina@gmail.com *If you know someone who might like to join the *new improved* list, please send them the link for joining. Christina ===============================

Normally a marriage was registered once, in the district where the marriage took place. As to the information on familysearch, that's the index information only. To get a photocopy of the original registration, with much more information, you have to write the GRO in Ireland or the LDS for those years they've filmed (births 1864-81, 1900-13, 1930-55; deaths and marriages 1864-70). And indeed, not everyone registered, especially in the early years. Diane -----Original Message----- From: JJG <jg2375@gmail.com> To: irl-monaghan <irl-monaghan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, Dec 15, 2012 7:06 am Subject: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Familysearch and 1901/11 census Diane Yes, I have searched both. The figures for the birth dates come from the two census, but they are approximate because, just as with the US census information from those days, people simply didn't know when they were born. The Familysearch information is some of the least helpful I've found, especially for Ireland. Their records seem to be spotty, some registered others not, and often only the name and the year are available, but no way to certify who among the multiple possibilities is yours. Same thing for Ancestry.com records for Ireland. About the latter, though, I have a question. When one searches for marriage records, a name and approximate date are given but not the parents' names or the spouse's. Clicking on the link for names appearing on the same page is only helpful if you already know the spouse's name. I have a record for Patrick COYLE's marriage in the April - June quarter of 1951, registered in Castleblaney, and for Annie R McCAFFREY that same quarter of 1951 but with registration in Monaghan. I have a strong suspicion that these two are spouses. Here is my question: Are spouses registered in the district where they married or are they registered in the district where they reside? Is it possible that Patrick from Roo married Annie from, say, Monaghan town, and that each appears therefore on a separate page of the registry for that year? John Grimes ================================= Message Boards: http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Diane Yes, I have searched both. The figures for the birth dates come from the two census, but they are approximate because, just as with the US census information from those days, people simply didn't know when they were born. The Familysearch information is some of the least helpful I've found, especially for Ireland. Their records seem to be spotty, some registered others not, and often only the name and the year are available, but no way to certify who among the multiple possibilities is yours. Same thing for Ancestry.com records for Ireland. About the latter, though, I have a question. When one searches for marriage records, a name and approximate date are given but not the parents' names or the spouse's. Clicking on the link for names appearing on the same page is only helpful if you already know the spouse's name. I have a record for Patrick COYLE's marriage in the April - June quarter of 1951, registered in Castleblaney, and for Annie R McCAFFREY that same quarter of 1951 but with registration in Monaghan. I have a strong suspicion that these two are spouses. Here is my question: Are spouses registered in the district where they married or are they registered in the district where they reside? Is it possible that Patrick from Roo married Annie from, say, Monaghan town, and that each appears therefore on a separate page of the registry for that year? John Grimes

Have you already checked the civil birth and records on familysearch (Castleblayney district)? 1901 and 1911 censuses should also help. Diane -----Original Message----- From: JJG <jg2375@gmail.com> To: irl-monaghan <irl-monaghan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Dec 14, 2012 7:08 am Subject: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Church of St Mary, Annahala, Carrickatee cemetery I have learned just today that many of my family are buried in Carrickatee graveyard at St Mary church, about 9 kms south of Ballybay, Monaghan. If anyone lives near there or has photographed graves there, I would be grateful for information about Patrick COYLE, Owen COYLE, and Margaret COYLE, all buried there. I have approximate dates for their births, but nothing about their death. Patrick COYLE was born about 1886 in Roo; Owen about 1881; and Margaret around 1890. From what I have learned, Patrick COYLE's wife is also buried with him in Carrickatee, but I do not know her first name. I am looking for any and all information from their gravestones, including the correct date of birth and children, if any. (I submitted this the other day, but I may have sent it to the wrong address.) John Grimes ================================= Message Boards: http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have learned just today that many of my family are buried in Carrickatee graveyard at St Mary church, about 9 kms south of Ballybay, Monaghan. If anyone lives near there or has photographed graves there, I would be grateful for information about Patrick COYLE, Owen COYLE, and Margaret COYLE, all buried there. I have approximate dates for their births, but nothing about their death. Patrick COYLE was born about 1886 in Roo; Owen about 1881; and Margaret around 1890. From what I have learned, Patrick COYLE's wife is also buried with him in Carrickatee, but I do not know her first name. I am looking for any and all information from their gravestones, including the correct date of birth and children, if any. (I submitted this the other day, but I may have sent it to the wrong address.) John Grimes

I live in Canada, and I believe my ggrandparents Phillip and Mary Coogan are also buried in that same cemetry.  I would be very greatful for any information on them or any of their Coogan relatives. Merry Christmas to all, Geraldine

http://www.genealogy.nationalarchives.ie/ Bob Graham ----- Original Message ----- From: "sean roche" <seanroche1@hotmail.com> To: "MONAGHAN list" <irl-monaghan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 3:06 PM Subject: [IRL-MONAGHAN] FW: TITHE APPLOTMENTS > > hi, > > re: lease holders. How do I find this information. > The ancestry records are here. > http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=ApplotmentIreland&rank=1&new=1&so=3&tid=24140146&tpid=12516942267&ssrc=pt_t24140146_p12516942267&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=ms_r_db&gsfn=HUGH&gsln=McGUIRK&msrpn__ftp=Monaghan%2C+Ireland&msrpn=5315&msrpn_PInfo=7-%7C0%7C1652381%7C0%7C3250%7C0%7C0%7C0%7C5315%7C0%7C0%7C&uidh=5d7 > > > SEAN > ================================= > > Message Boards: > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

hi, re: lease holders. How do I find this information. The ancestry records are here. http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=ApplotmentIreland&rank=1&new=1&so=3&tid=24140146&tpid=12516942267&ssrc=pt_t24140146_p12516942267&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=ms_r_db&gsfn=HUGH&gsln=McGUIRK&msrpn__ftp=Monaghan%2C+Ireland&msrpn=5315&msrpn_PInfo=7-%7C0%7C1652381%7C0%7C3250%7C0%7C0%7C0%7C5315%7C0%7C0%7C&uidh=5d7 SEAN

HI, RE: lease holders. How do I find this information. https://familysearch.org/search/collection/show#uri=http://familysearch.org/searchapi/search/collection/1804886

http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/pagestab/Monaghan/Tedavnet/ No McKenna listed. Bob Graham ----- Original Message ----- From: "sean roche" <seanroche1@hotmail.com> To: "MONAGHAN list" <irl-monaghan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 4:00 PM Subject: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Tithe Applotment books > > hi, > I have a question regarding the Tithe Applotment books - are details only > available for Monaghan on Ancestry ?? > I have 3 people I am interested in but don't have Ancestry membership to > see the records. > Records do appear to exist for Patrick McKENNA, I am looking for the one > from ANNAHAGH, Scotstown. > Also records exist seem to exist for Hugh and Patrick McGUIRK, I am > interested in the ones from ANNAGALLY, Killylough. > If someone could do a lookup for me,I would be very grateful. > Regards, > SEAN > ================================= > > Message Boards: > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

hi, I have a question regarding the Tithe Applotment books - are details only available for Monaghan on Ancestry ?? I have 3 people I am interested in but don't have Ancestry membership to see the records. Records do appear to exist for Patrick McKENNA, I am looking for the one from ANNAHAGH, Scotstown. Also records exist seem to exist for Hugh and Patrick McGUIRK, I am interested in the ones from ANNAGALLY, Killylough. If someone could do a lookup for me,I would be very grateful. Regards, SEAN

Just a note about the spelling of one parish name. The site lists the parish "Ennigle Trough", and it should be Errigal Trough. Loretta (Lynn) Layman

Just poked around on familysearch and they have the images. Christina sean roche wrote: > hi, > I have a question regarding the Tithe Applotment books - are details only available for Monaghan on Ancestry ?? > I have 3 people I am interested in but don't have Ancestry membership to see the records. > Records do appear to exist for Patrick McKENNA, I am looking for the one from ANNAHAGH, Scotstown. > Also records exist seem to exist for Hugh and Patrick McGUIRK, I am interested in the ones from ANNAGALLY, Killylough.