Lots of county history. Maybe you can find one of your ancestors mentioned asbeing transported to Tasmania, hanged, or having done some good deeds. Here's how to read or copy; HISTORICAL SKETCHES OF MONAGHAN, by Denis Carolan Rushe, 1895. 210 pages. Go here and at the left of the page you have choices on how you want to save the book; Read online, PDF, Kindle, Full Text, etc. http://archive.org/details/historicalsketch00rushrich I tried PDF but it took over 2 minutes before it appeared. ( Using a 2.8MHZ puter with 2gb of memory). Fastest way is the FULL TEXT, then when it appears, click File in the menu bar and "Save As" .

Birth certificiates will obviously give you place of birth and usually mothers maiden name if married, fathers name and occupation is normal as well. Death certificates as said before will give place of death and cause of death, if married, and name of informant. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "EILEEN BATES" <eileenbates@btinternet.com> To: <irl-monaghan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Irish Death Records Hello Bob, I have found some entries on family search, Josephs wife was Catherine Smyth nee Condon, There are childrens birth and baptism entries for James Smith and William Smith, father Joseph and mother Catherine Condon Smith in 1876 & 1878. I found a death for Catherine Smyth in 1908 correct age, and all three entries in Monaghan, with the births at Tiernshinch. Joseph Smyth "United Kingdon, Chelsea Pensioners Service Records, 1760- 1913 correct date of birth, but I cant see a year he died. You can access F M P, but I am subscribed to Ancestry. I will have to pay as you go, if I can. Would I get an address off of the births, and the death certificates? Thanks for all the info you give, gratefully received. kind regards,|Eileen

Hello Bob, I have found some entries on family search,  Josephs wife was Catherine Smyth nee Condon, There are childrens birth and baptism entries for James Smith and William Smith, father Joseph and mother Catherine Condon Smith in 1876 & 1878. I found a death for Catherine Smyth in 1908 correct age, and all three entries in Monaghan, with the births at Tiernshinch. Joseph Smyth "United Kingdon, Chelsea Pensioners Service Records, 1760- 1913 correct date of birth, but I cant see a year he died. You can access F M P, but I am subscribed to Ancestry. I will have to pay as you go, if I can. Would I get an address off of the births, and the death certificates? Thanks for all the info you give, gratefully received. kind regards,|Eileen ________________________________ From: Bob Graham <bobgraham@talktalk.net> To: irl-monaghan@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2013, 10:31 Subject: Re: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Irish Death Records There is no complete census before 1901. I do recall seeing that some on the Indices on the LDS are incomplete. I do know of two deaths one in 1901 and one in 1903 which are definitely NOT in the LDS listings. The chances are you will find what you are after, but if not don't assume it did not happen. If you can't find it on the LDS list you may have to get someone to check the Official Index at the local Registrars. Your major problem is the lack of detail on Irish death certificates. You may find several Joseph Smyths and unless you know which townland he died in you may not know which is yours. If you are VERY lucky one of his relatives may have been the informant and that will be recorded. If the informant was neighbour or doctor it will not have any useful genealogical data. The stated age on the certificate may be a guess and be well out. I have a death certificate where the neighbour was the informant, and the stated age was 66. When this gentleman was buried his age in the church records was 84. I did an LDS check for Joseph Smyth dying Monaghan 1871 - 1901 and came back with 1589 hits. Bob Graham ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Rooney" <ssr@turner-bianca.com> To: "EILEEN BATES" <eileenbates@btinternet.com>; <irl-monaghan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 7:37 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Irish Death Records Eileen The family search website (latter day saints) have irish civil birth,deaths and marriages index's online. You will find a record of his death there. Sean -----Original Message----- From: irl-monaghan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-monaghan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of EILEEN BATES Sent: 07 February 2013 07:35 To: irl-monaghan@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Irish Death Records Hello Christina, My gt gt grandfather Joseph Smyth b1827 left the army in 1871 ( after the census!) and it says he went back to Kilmore, Co.Monaghan. His (2nd) wife Catherine nee Condon and children Joseph b 1866, Elizabeth b 1869 and Thomas b 1871. Is there an idex, on line, that I could look for his death? Ideally the 1881 census would have been great!!! Any advice would be gratefully received. Eileen ================================= Message Boards: http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is no complete census before 1901. I do recall seeing that some on the Indices on the LDS are incomplete. I do know of two deaths one in 1901 and one in 1903 which are definitely NOT in the LDS listings. The chances are you will find what you are after, but if not don't assume it did not happen. If you can't find it on the LDS list you may have to get someone to check the Official Index at the local Registrars. Your major problem is the lack of detail on Irish death certificates. You may find several Joseph Smyths and unless you know which townland he died in you may not know which is yours. If you are VERY lucky one of his relatives may have been the informant and that will be recorded. If the informant was neighbour or doctor it will not have any useful genealogical data. The stated age on the certificate may be a guess and be well out. I have a death certificate where the neighbour was the informant, and the stated age was 66. When this gentleman was buried his age in the church records was 84. I did an LDS check for Joseph Smyth dying Monaghan 1871 - 1901 and came back with 1589 hits. Bob Graham ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Rooney" <ssr@turner-bianca.com> To: "EILEEN BATES" <eileenbates@btinternet.com>; <irl-monaghan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 7:37 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Irish Death Records Eileen The family search website (latter day saints) have irish civil birth,deaths and marriages index's online. You will find a record of his death there. Sean -----Original Message----- From: irl-monaghan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-monaghan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of EILEEN BATES Sent: 07 February 2013 07:35 To: irl-monaghan@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Irish Death Records Hello Christina, My gt gt grandfather Joseph Smyth b1827 left the army in 1871 ( after the census!) and it says he went back to Kilmore, Co.Monaghan. His (2nd) wife Catherine nee Condon and children Joseph b 1866, Elizabeth b 1869 and Thomas b 1871. Is there an idex, on line, that I could look for his death? Ideally the 1881 census would have been great!!! Any advice would be gratefully received. Eileen

I did find the missing portion - Index of deaths 1894-1895 (3rd qtr 1894 vol. missing pgs. 22-23) Bob Graham

Bob I have found that some people are missing too. From things I have read, I think that sometimes people didn't want to be bothered with death registration. There was apparently a fee too, which some wanted to avoid. So, a certain percentage are missing because they wouldn't register the death. I don't think it is any lack in the indexes. Regards, Chris Bob Graham wrote: > There is no complete census before 1901. > > I do recall seeing that some on the Indices on the LDS are incomplete. I do > know of two deaths one in 1901 and one in 1903 which are definitely NOT in > the LDS listings.

Eileen The family search website (latter day saints) have irish civil birth,deaths and marriages index's online. You will find a record of his death there. Sean -----Original Message----- From: irl-monaghan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-monaghan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of EILEEN BATES Sent: 07 February 2013 07:35 To: irl-monaghan@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Irish Death Records Hello Christina, My gt gt grandfather Joseph Smyth b1827  left the army in 1871 ( after the census!) and it says he went back to Kilmore, Co.Monaghan. His (2nd) wife Catherine nee Condon and children Joseph b 1866, Elizabeth b 1869 and Thomas b 1871. Is there an idex, on line, that I could look for his death? Ideally the 1881 census would have been great!!! Any advice would be gratefully received. Eileen ________________________________ From: Christina Hunt <chrisnina@gmail.com> To: irl-monaghan@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2013, 3:11 Subject: Re: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Irish Death Records John You would have to order the record from the GRO. Name:     Alexander Henry Estimated Birth Year:     abt 1853 Date of Registration:     Jan-Feb-Mar 1919 Death Age:     66 Registration district:     Dublin South Death Country:     Ireland Volume:     2 Page:     692 You can use the index info when ordering. http://www.groireland.ie/apply_for_a_cert.htm Christina willowfiel@aol.com wrote: >  Can anyone tell me how to find the death record of Alexander Henry, born Dundalk 1864, died Dublin 1919? > Thank You > John Henry > ================================= Message Boards: http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ================================= Message Boards: http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for potential computer viruses using Messagelabs technology.

Hello Christina, My gt gt grandfather Joseph Smyth b1827  left the army in 1871 ( after the census!) and it says he went back to Kilmore, Co.Monaghan. His (2nd) wife Catherine nee Condon and children Joseph b 1866, Elizabeth b 1869 and Thomas b 1871. Is there an idex, on line, that I could look for his death? Ideally the 1881 census would have been great!!! Any advice would be gratefully received. Eileen ________________________________ From: Christina Hunt <chrisnina@gmail.com> To: irl-monaghan@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2013, 3:11 Subject: Re: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Irish Death Records John You would have to order the record from the GRO. Name:     Alexander Henry Estimated Birth Year:     abt 1853 Date of Registration:     Jan-Feb-Mar 1919 Death Age:     66 Registration district:     Dublin South Death Country:     Ireland Volume:     2 Page:     692 You can use the index info when ordering. http://www.groireland.ie/apply_for_a_cert.htm Christina willowfiel@aol.com wrote: >  Can anyone tell me how to find the death record of Alexander Henry, born Dundalk 1864, died Dublin 1919? > Thank You > John Henry > ================================= Message Boards: http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John You would have to order the record from the GRO. Name: Alexander Henry Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1919 Death Age: 66 Registration district: Dublin South Death Country: Ireland Volume: 2 Page: 692 You can use the index info when ordering. http://www.groireland.ie/apply_for_a_cert.htm Christina willowfiel@aol.com wrote: > Can anyone tell me how to find the death record of Alexander Henry, born Dundalk 1864, died Dublin 1919? > Thank You > John Henry >

Can anyone tell me how to find the death record of Alexander Henry, born Dundalk 1864, died Dublin 1919? Thank You John Henry

This basic surname tool might be of some interest to you, Patrick: http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/index.htm. On Feb 5, 2013, at 8:44 AM, Patrick Cryans wrote: > Are there any Rafferty's from Tydavnet ? > Patrick > Pa > > -----Original Message----- > From: sean roche > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 1:22 PM > To: MONAGHAN list > Subject: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Help with tracing your Monaghan roots > > > hi, > I hope this is not breaking any list protocol rules, but for those trying to > trace family in Monaghan it is an opportunity not to be missed. > As part of The Gathering initiative, the County Monaghan Fund people have > gone that extra mile to help people find their family roots. > Simply go to the following Website, click on the "Registration Form" link > and fill in the form with as many details as possible. > www.countymonaghanfund.com > I was sent photos of my g-g-Grandparents and some of my g-g-Grandmothers > siblings, and a second cousin. > They have offered to photograph the family homes of the three Monaghan > families I am related to. > I may have been lucky but imo it is well worth 10 minutes of your time to > fill in the form. > Regards, > SEAN > > > ================================= > > Message Boards: > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6082 - Release Date: 02/04/13 > > ================================= > > Message Boards: > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Sean, We have a Fr. Raferty as the pastor of our church St. Steven, the Martyr? That is in Chesapeake, VA. Louise Murray Rawls On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Patrick Cryans wrote: > Are there any Rafferty's from Tydavnet ? > Patrick > Pa > > -----Original Message----- From: sean roche > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 1:22 PM > To: MONAGHAN list > Subject: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Help with tracing your Monaghan roots > > > hi, > I hope this is not breaking any list protocol rules, but for those > trying to trace family in Monaghan it is an opportunity not to be > missed. > As part of The Gathering initiative, the County Monaghan Fund people > have gone that extra mile to help people find their family roots. > Simply go to the following Website, click on the "Registration Form" > link and fill in the form with as many details as possible. > www.countymonaghanfund.com > I was sent photos of my g-g-Grandparents and some of my > g-g-Grandmothers siblings, and a second cousin. > They have offered to photograph the family homes of the three Monaghan > families I am related to. > I may have been lucky but imo it is well worth 10 minutes of your time > to fill in the form. > Regards, > SEAN > > > ================================= > > Message Boards: > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6082 - Release Date: > 02/04/13 > ================================= > > Message Boards: > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Are there any Rafferty's from Tydavnet ? Patrick Pa -----Original Message----- From: sean roche Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 1:22 PM To: MONAGHAN list Subject: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Help with tracing your Monaghan roots hi, I hope this is not breaking any list protocol rules, but for those trying to trace family in Monaghan it is an opportunity not to be missed. As part of The Gathering initiative, the County Monaghan Fund people have gone that extra mile to help people find their family roots. Simply go to the following Website, click on the "Registration Form" link and fill in the form with as many details as possible. www.countymonaghanfund.com I was sent photos of my g-g-Grandparents and some of my g-g-Grandmothers siblings, and a second cousin. They have offered to photograph the family homes of the three Monaghan families I am related to. I may have been lucky but imo it is well worth 10 minutes of your time to fill in the form. Regards, SEAN ================================= Message Boards: http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6082 - Release Date: 02/04/13

hi, I hope this is not breaking any list protocol rules, but for those trying to trace family in Monaghan it is an opportunity not to be missed. As part of The Gathering initiative, the County Monaghan Fund people have gone that extra mile to help people find their family roots. Simply go to the following Website, click on the "Registration Form" link and fill in the form with as many details as possible. www.countymonaghanfund.com I was sent photos of my g-g-Grandparents and some of my g-g-Grandmothers siblings, and a second cousin. They have offered to photograph the family homes of the three Monaghan families I am related to. I may have been lucky but imo it is well worth 10 minutes of your time to fill in the form. Regards, SEAN

WOW! Thank you, Sean, for sharing this information with us all. I think it's spot on with being aligned with a listserve that helps us trace our Monaghan roots. I made my first ever trip to Monaghan last May and had pretty good success in finding my family's roots in Clontibret and Muckno parishes, but there is so much more that I missed. With the newfound resources of this listserve, along with what the County Monaghan Fund is offering, I might just have enough new leads to justify a return trip in 2013! You've made my day, Karen -----Original Message----- From: irl-monaghan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-monaghan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sean roche Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 8:23 AM To: MONAGHAN list Subject: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Help with tracing your Monaghan roots hi, I hope this is not breaking any list protocol rules, but for those trying to trace family in Monaghan it is an opportunity not to be missed. As part of The Gathering initiative, the County Monaghan Fund people have gone that extra mile to help people find their family roots. Simply go to the following Website, click on the "Registration Form" link and fill in the form with as many details as possible. www.countymonaghanfund.com I was sent photos of my g-g-Grandparents and some of my g-g-Grandmothers siblings, and a second cousin. They have offered to photograph the family homes of the three Monaghan families I am related to. I may have been lucky but imo it is well worth 10 minutes of your time to fill in the form. Regards, SEAN ================================= Message Boards: http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Patrick in Pa you must click on the link in Sean's email to register before asking about your Rafferty's . Good luck. Sent from my iPad On Feb 5, 2013, at 9:31 AM, Louise Rawls <dadeephil@cox.net> wrote: > Hello Sean, > > We have a Fr. Raferty as the pastor of our church St. Steven, the > Martyr? That is in Chesapeake, VA. > > Louise Murray Rawls > > > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Patrick Cryans wrote: > >> Are there any Rafferty's from Tydavnet ? >> Patrick >> Pa >> >> -----Original Message----- From: sean roche >> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 1:22 PM >> To: MONAGHAN list >> Subject: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Help with tracing your Monaghan roots >> >> >> hi, >> I hope this is not breaking any list protocol rules, but for those >> trying to trace family in Monaghan it is an opportunity not to be >> missed. >> As part of The Gathering initiative, the County Monaghan Fund people >> have gone that extra mile to help people find their family roots. >> Simply go to the following Website, click on the "Registration Form" >> link and fill in the form with as many details as possible. >> www.countymonaghanfund.com >> I was sent photos of my g-g-Grandparents and some of my >> g-g-Grandmothers siblings, and a second cousin. >> They have offered to photograph the family homes of the three Monaghan >> families I am related to. >> I may have been lucky but imo it is well worth 10 minutes of your time >> to fill in the form. >> Regards, >> SEAN >> >> >> ================================= >> >> Message Boards: >> http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6082 - Release Date: >> 02/04/13 >> ================================= >> >> Message Boards: >> http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ================================= > > Message Boards: > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Obviously a list member was hacked. Christina List admin

Many of you may already be aware of this, but I just learned you can now order digital copies of images from LDS filmed records free of charge. Here's a link to the complete explanation: https://www.familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Photoduplication_Services Diane

unsubscribe   Meryl Ritchie ________________________________ From: "irl-monaghan-request@rootsweb.com" <irl-monaghan-request@rootsweb.com> To: irl-monaghan@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 6 January 2013 7:00 PM Subject: IRL-MONAGHAN Digest, Vol 8, Issue 1 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Put SURNAMES in CAPS Today's Topics:   1. Irish Philantropy (AHarney) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 17:39:13 -0500 From: "AHarney" <a.harney@cox.net> Subject: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Irish Philantropy To: <Y-IRL@yahoogroups.com> Cc: IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <84C8A29C2F0745BFA21F923435A07646@DesktopPC> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii" Nice story on the video... http://www.rte.ie/news/player/nationwide/2011/0330/#&calendar=true&page=1 The second part of the video is on County Monaghan Fund. Third on The Ark in Dublin 4th Askeaton [Limerick] Cycle for Charity Nice.. County Monaghan Fund DVD http://www.countymonaghanfund.com/?page_id=90 Enjoy, Ann ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-MONAGHAN list administrator, send an email to IRL-MONAGHAN-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the IRL-MONAGHAN mailing list, send an email to IRL-MONAGHAN@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of IRL-MONAGHAN Digest, Vol 8, Issue 1 ******************************************

Nice story on the video... http://www.rte.ie/news/player/nationwide/2011/0330/#&calendar=true&page=1 The second part of the video is on County Monaghan Fund. Third on The Ark in Dublin 4th Askeaton [Limerick] Cycle for Charity Nice.. County Monaghan Fund DVD http://www.countymonaghanfund.com/?page_id=90 Enjoy, Ann