I am a sometime user of the Monaghan site. My ancestor Edward Fagan was listed as a scutcher which I believe is a linen industry worker. Is there any records that indicate the workers of a particular employer i.e. Shirley Estate? I have tracked this family to Carrickmacross (1872)in Monaghan and Barronstown (1868) in Louth but cant find a birth or marriage anywhere. Maybe records would give a tiny shred of information that may be helpful. Oral family history gives Dublin as a birth place but research has revealed nothing. Any help would be very much appreciated. Johanna

You won't know till you get there. Some just have rent books listing tenants and payments, others have details of leases, and some just random letters from the landlord. You need to ask the NA in Dublin if they have an online catalogue like the PRONI. If not can ask if they can send you details of the catalogue for that particular estate. Hopefully Dublin will follow the PRONI example and put the catalogue where you can search for potentially interesting items before you get there. Bob Graham ----- Original Message ----- From: "Murray Bell" <murraybel@msn.com> To: <irl-monaghan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 11:25 PM Subject: [MONAGHAN] Estate Records Question > Anybody out there have any experience reviewing Estate Records? I am > referring specifically to the Bath Estate in County Monaghan. I know from > the Tithe Applotment books that my ancestor was a tenant on this estate in > the 1820's. When I am in Dublin this September, I am planning on going > into the National Library and searching the Bath Estate records. Is this > worthwhile or am I wasting my time? What might i find? Any feedback > appreciated. > > Murray Bell > ================================= > > Message Boards: > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Anybody out there have any experience reviewing Estate Records? I am referring specifically to the Bath Estate in County Monaghan. I know from the Tithe Applotment books that my ancestor was a tenant on this estate in the 1820's. When I am in Dublin this September, I am planning on going into the National Library and searching the Bath Estate records. Is this worthwhile or am I wasting my time? What might i find? Any feedback appreciated. Murray Bell

Hi All, I have again perused the 1901 census after receiving some hints from here and Cavan off-line. If persons are in the mental institutions of the day, ( as a medical person I dislike using the formal name of Lunatics and Idiots in Pubic Institutions) they are listed only by their initials. It appears that Jane is in the Monaghan Rural institution in Rooskey townland, with the correct initials, age, religion. Place of birth is questionable as I do not have it so could be right. Melancholia is her diagnosis and she has been there for 8 years which puts it about 1893 for admission. After researching further, it appears that, while her eldest son may be alive even though I cannot find him either in the 2 census, her 2 daughters born in 1886 and 1887 appear to have died in infancy. I cannot find a death for her son so I am unsure about him. That could send any woman over the top especially since in later generations depression and anxiety have been present. It now appears that she spent her entire life institutionalized. How sad. Thank you for your assistance to all Janet

Hello, I am sorry, I have lost the link/email for/with this map. Could someone please send it again? Thank You, Anne -----Original Message----- >From: Elizabeth Dow >Sent: May 13, 2013 3:54 PM >To: Monaghan Roots Web >Subject: Re: [MONAGHAN] Ireland1838 Map > >Fabulous Find!! Thank you for sharing. > > >On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Sharon Connor wrote: > >> Wow! Many thanks. >> >> >> On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 11:05 AM, wrote: >> >> > ireland1838.com has a great old map of Ireland, a product of the Ordance >> > Surveys of the 1830s. You can click on one section to enlarge, then click >> > on one area of that section to enlarge again and scroll around. It shows >> > civil parishes, towns, mills, and churches, as well as roads, lakes, >> > rivers, and mountains. Some of the town names have changed, but you >> should >> > be able to navigate by comparing to a more modern map. >> > >> > Diane >> > ================================= >> > >> > Message Boards: >> > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> ================================= >> >> Message Boards: >> http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > >-- >~"When I was five years old, my mother always told me that happiness was >the key to life. When I went to school, they asked me what I wanted to be >when I grew up. I wrote down 'happy.' They told me I didn't understand the >assignment, and I told them they didn't understand life." ~ John Lennon >================================= > >Message Boards: >http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Look further down on the email you just sent. The link is there. http://ireland1838.com/ On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Anne <adavison48@earthlink.net> wrote: > > Hello, I am sorry, I have lost the link/email for/with this map. Could > someone please send it again? > > > Thank You, Anne > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Elizabeth Dow > >Sent: May 13, 2013 3:54 PM > >To: Monaghan Roots Web > >Subject: Re: [MONAGHAN] Ireland1838 Map > > > >Fabulous Find!! Thank you for sharing. > > > > > >On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Sharon Connor wrote: > > > >> Wow! Many thanks. > >> > >> > >> On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 11:05 AM, wrote: > >> > >> > ireland1838.com has a great old map of Ireland, a product of the > Ordance > >> > Surveys of the 1830s. You can click on one section to enlarge, then > click > >> > on one area of that section to enlarge again and scroll around. It > shows > >> > civil parishes, towns, mills, and churches, as well as roads, > lakes, > >> > rivers, and mountains. Some of the town names have changed, but you > >> should > >> > be able to navigate by comparing to a more modern map. > >> > > >> > Diane > >> > ================================= > >> > > >> > Message Boards: > >> > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > >> the > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> ================================= > >> > >> Message Boards: > >> http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > >-- > >~"When I was five years old, my mother always told me that happiness > was > >the key to life. When I went to school, they asked me what I wanted to > be > >when I grew up. I wrote down 'happy.' They told me I didn't understand > the > >assignment, and I told them they didn't understand life." ~ John Lennon > >================================= > > > >Message Boards: > >http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ================================= > > Message Boards: > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Fabulous Find!! Thank you for sharing. On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Sharon Connor <sharoncconnor@gmail.com>wrote: > Wow! Many thanks. > > > On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 11:05 AM, <dlculhane@cs.com> wrote: > > > ireland1838.com has a great old map of Ireland, a product of the Ordance > > Surveys of the 1830s. You can click on one section to enlarge, then click > > on one area of that section to enlarge again and scroll around. It shows > > civil parishes, towns, mills, and churches, as well as roads, lakes, > > rivers, and mountains. Some of the town names have changed, but you > should > > be able to navigate by comparing to a more modern map. > > > > Diane > > ================================= > > > > Message Boards: > > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ================================= > > Message Boards: > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- ~"When I was five years old, my mother always told me that happiness was the key to life. When I went to school, they asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up. I wrote down 'happy.' They told me I didn't understand the assignment, and I told them they didn't understand life." ~ John Lennon

Received today. >From rootsireland.ie Cross border training included too. No cost listed but must be staying in area for 4 days. ____________________________________ From: enquiries@rootsireland.ie To: jmorgan441@aol.com Sent: 5/10/2013 8:41:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Monaghan Genealogy Training Dear Mrs Janet Morgan, Genealogy Course for Monaghan Diaspora visiting from abroad announced A unique Monaghan-focused Family History initiative is being organised as part of The Gathering 2013. It will provide two 4-day training courses within the county for tourists tracing their Monaghan ancestors. The project is entitled 'County Monaghan Genealogy - home to the little hills'. It will give participants information on the genealogical sources available, the cultural history of County Monaghan and the diversity of origin of its people. The courses will take place in North Monaghan from Monday to Thursday, 14-17 October, and in Carrickmacross from Monday to Thursday, 21-24 October. The courses are designed for individuals and groups with Monaghan ancestry living overseas and members of Irish societies and social clubs abroad. This project is organised by Clogher Historical Society/Cumann Seanchais Chlochair, Monaghan County Library and the County Monaghan Heritage Gathering Committee. We would like to acknowledge the support of Cavan-Monaghan LEADER which is funding the project. The project is also being supported by the County Monaghan Fund and Monaghan Genealogy. The project will be delivered by Ancestor Network Ltd, a professional genealogy company. Substantial funding for the project has resulted in a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for overseas visitors to come to Monaghan to trace their roots, experience the warmth of a Monaghan welcome and explore its rich culture and history. If you are a native of Monaghan or know someone who might be interested, contact: John Hamrock, _info@ancestor.ie_ (mailto:info@ancestor.ie) Tel: +353 87 0505296, Twitter: @ancestornetwork, _www.facebook.com/MonaghanGenealogyTraining._ (http://www.facebook.com/MonaghanGenealogyTraining) About the Training Courses Courses will take place in October or November 2013 (Monday-Thursday and will run from 9am to 4pm each day with two evening sessions each week from 7pm to 9pm. Training packs for participants will include a surname-map of County Monaghan. Training is aimed at roots tourists coming to County Monaghan to trace their roots, especially those staying overnight in the county, who will be prioritised in the allocation of places. Training modules will include: * A broad view of the history of the County Monaghan taking in key periods and subjects such as: the Plantation, famine, occupations, emigration, partition, the Troubles, estates, language, folklore, built & natural heritage, families, religion. This module will set County Monaghan in a national and international context. * A close inspection of sources for Monaghan genealogy such as: church & civil records, estate records, valuation records, shipping records, census, convict records, school records, military records, wills, election records, printed records, DNA genealogy and online sources. Site visits and cultural events will form an integral part of the training and might include: ancestral homes, workhouses, graveyards, library, museum, archaeological sites, estates, music, dance, language events, storytelling or walks. There will be an emphasis on active participation in events, rather than merely watching. Training outputs for participants will include: * The ability to identify, locate and reference genealogical sources for the county. * Ability to assess and organise genealogical information and construct a basic family tree. * Basic knowledge of the history of the county. * Basic knowledge of the geography of the county including land divisions. * Familiarity with emigration patterns and the reasons for emigration. * An appreciation of the cultural history of County Monaghan and the diversity of origins of County Monaghan people. Clogher Historical Society/Cumann Seanchais Chlochair (CHS) is a local historical society founded in 1952. It aims to promote the study of local history in the diocese of Clogher and to promote the area's historical links with the Irish counties of Cavan, Monaghan, Fermanagh, Tyrone and Donegal with other places. As the diocese straddles the Northern Ireland/Republic of Ireland border, CHS has a strong a cross-border and cross-community ethos. It is a non-profit organisation and a registered charity. CHS frequently works with other organisations towards achieving its aims. (_www.clogherhistory.ie_ (http://www.clogherhistory.ie/) ) Monaghan County Libraries serve and enrich people's lives by providing a modern library and information service which stimulates knowledge and supports lifelong learning, imagination and recreation. The role of Monaghan County Libraries has been redefined from a place simply to borrow books to one which allows access to the world of information and supports all members of the community in their quest for knowledge, education and self development. Our role is to provide accurate and up to date information. Our services include lending of books, music cd's, dvd's, magazines, audio books; local history and genealogical services; a range of outreach services from the young to the old; free Internet and WIFI access; reader development and literacy programmes; inter library loan service; school Library Service; and lifelong learning. (_ www.monaghan.ie/en/services/library/_ (http://www.monaghan.ie/en/services/library/) ) Cavan-Monaghan LEADER Cavan-Monaghan LEADER is a joint venture between Breffni Integrated Limited and Monaghan Integrated Development Limited for the delivery of the Rural Development Programme 2007-2013 in the Cavan-Monaghan region. CML was established in 2008 and is the primary rural development organisation in the region. Cavan-Monaghan LEADER's vision is to develop sustainable rural communities throughout the Cavan-Monaghan region through the provision of a programme that will enhance the social, natural, human, physical and financial resources available to individuals and communities. (_www.cmleader.ie_ (http://www.cmleader.ie/) ) Monaghan Genealogy Monaghan Genealogy is a non-profit organisation that aims to provide information on the genealogy of County Monaghan families. It is a member of the Irish Family History Foundation and is currently uploading church records for the county to the RootsIreland.ie website. Monaghan Genealogy is working in the longer term towards providing a genealogy centre for the county. (http://monaghan.rootsireland.ie/) The County Monaghan Fund The County Monaghan Fund was established in January 2004. It is the first county philanthropic fund in the Republic of Ireland. It was set up with the support of the Community Foundation for Ireland and a committee of 12 civic minded Monaghan people representing all areas of the county. As the Fund grows, it generates income for community and charitable projects in County Monaghan. The local committee have managed to raise the Fund to €350,000 to date and it is still growing. (_www.countymonaghanfund.com_ (http://www.countymonaghanfund.com/) ) The Gathering Monaghan Over 70 million people worldwide claim Irish ancestry. The Gathering Ireland 2013 provides the perfect excuse to reach out to those who have moved away, their relatives, friends and descendants, and invite them home. The Gathering is the people's party. It kicked off in spectacular style at the New Year's Eve Festival in Dublin and is being celebrated through gatherings of the people and Ireland's major festivals during 2013. So now it is over to you. It is in your hands. Be part of it. (_www.thegatheringireland.com_ (http://www.thegatheringireland.com/) ) Ancestor Network Ltd. Ancestor Network Limited was established in May 2009 to help promote knowledge and learning of genealogy (family history) and heraldry in Ireland. Ancestor Network is a professional genealogy organisation that helps people search for their Irish ancestry and discover their family history and surname origin. The company is focused on Irish Family History or Genealogical Services including; professional research and advice, teaching, tours, DNA testing, and book sales. Ancestor Network also advises on DNA tests for genealogy, heraldry, and adoption searches. The company websites are www.ancestor.ie and www.24-7genealogist.com. For further information please contact: John Hamrock Managing Director Ancestor Network Ltd. Blackrock Co. Dublin Ireland Telephone: +353 (0)87 0505296 Web: _www.ancestor.ie_ (http://www.ancestor.ie/) Email: _info@ancestor.ie_ (mailto:info@ancestor.ie) Twitter: @ancestornetwork, _www.facebook.com/MonaghanGenealogyTraining._ (http://www.facebook.com/MonaghanGenealogyTraining) Note: You received this message because you are registered with one or more of the Irish Family History Foundation websites. However, if you don't want to receive emails from us we won't send them! To unsubscribe from future email alerts, login to any of the above sites and alter your Mailing List preferences under My Account or _click here to unsubscribe from all email notifications_ (http://www.rootsireland.ie/ifhf/unsubscribe.php?email=jmorgan441@aol.com&chk=0cc28a3c3e6cd2770703c3576339f65a) .

4-day training courses for tourists tracing Monaghan ancestors. They will take place in Monaghan on 14-17, and 21-24 October. Don't I wish... https://www.facebook.com/MonaghanGenealogyTraining Clogher Historical Society: http://www.clogherhistory.ie/home Monaghan County Library: http://www.monaghan.ie/en/services/library/ Ancestor Ireland: http://www.ancestor.ie/ The above is new to me. More links: http://www.ancestor.ie/main/page_products__services_family_research_services .html Happy Hunting... Ann ____________________ County Monaghan History http://ahd.exis.net/monaghan/ McGeough / Connolly ~ Floody / Smyth Selby, Yorkshire ~ Lowry / Morris http://ahd.exis.net/lowry/

For anyone travelling to Ireland and interested in country-side accommodation, check out this place in a lovely spot, conveniently located to anywhere in the West Monaghan area of Monaghan town and Clones, as well as the Upper Lough Erne area of Fermanagh and Cavan. http://www.hiddengemcottages.com/ James

Delany's were certainly "well connected"!! as in Thomas Tenison (afterwards Archbishop of Canterbury) (Patrick Delany's 1st wife whom he married in 1732 was Margaret Tenison)....etc Dave Hall... 1691. Richard Tenison, Bishop of Killala and Achonry, was trans, to Clogher on 26th February, 1690/1. He was the son of Thomas Tenison, and b. at Carrickfergus. Ed. by Mr. H. Radclifie, at St. Bee's, Cumberland, ent. T.C.D. November 2nd, 1659, aged about 17. Degrees unrecorded, except D.D. 1682 ; Vice-Chanc. 1698. Was Dio. Schoolmaster of Meath, V. Laracor and Agher, 1669-82, R. Ardmulchan 1671-2, V. Donaghmore, Meath 1675-7, Chapl. to. L.L., Dean of Clogher, R. of Louth and Beaulieu and V. St. Peter's, Drogheda, 1675-82 ; cons. Bp. of Killala February 18th, 1681/2 ; fled to London in 1689 and worked in a London parish, probably with his relative Thomas Tenison (afterwards Archbishop of Canterbury), who was then Vicar of St. Martin's-in-the-Fields, and Minister of St. James', Piccadilly. In 1691 he Was trans, to Clogher Where his preaching is said to have " won many dissenters to the Church." " In a letter to Abp. Tenison, I4th September, 1696, on the subject of dissenters, he refers to the building of a See-house. " I am now building a hermitage at Clogher, where I will . . . . . end my life in religious retirement." His wife, Anna, d. in that year, and was buried at Clones (Par. Reg.). In 1697, he was trans, to Meath. He d. 29th July, 1705, and was buried in the Chapel of T.C.D. His name is sometimes spelled. "Tennison." Among his sons were (i) Henry, T.C.D. B.A., 1687 ; M.P. for Monaghan 1695 and for Louth 1703 ; d.1709 aged 42, bur. in the Tenison Mausoleum at bunker. ****(2) Richard, B.A., T.C.D., 1704 ; B.L., M.P. for Dunleer, 1715.**** [Patrick Delany's 1st wife whom he married in 1732 was Margaret Tenison, daughter of Richard Tenison] (3) Thomas, b. at Knockbalrymore, of Thomastown, Co. Louth, afterwards known as "Knock Abbey," He published : > 1. A Sermon, preached at the Primary Visitation of Primate Michael Boyle, at Drogheda. Dub., 1679. 2. A Thanksgiving Sermon on 2 Chron. xxviii, 9. 410, 1690. 3. A Sermon, preached at the Funeral of Bishop Hopkins of Derry, 4to., Dub., 1690. 4. A Sermon, preached at Christ Ch., Dub., before the L.L. 4to., Dub., 1692. 5. A Sermon, preached at Christ. Ch., Dub., before the Lord Deputy and Parliament. 27th October, 1695. 4to., Dub., 1695. -- Anything on these pages are my intellectual property. You are free to copy and to redistribute unmodified copies for _non-commercial_purposes without restriction from me. Small quotations ("fair use") should include a citation that includes reference to URL to which I have contributed and to which I claim shared copyright to under the *90* year rule. Any other use should be consistent with normal international copyright law! Those with some legal expertise may wish to examine the extensive Copyright Law Materials from the Legal Information Institute of the Cornell Law School. __

Delany's were certainly "well connected"!! as in Thomas Tenison (afterwards Archbishop of Canterbury) (Patrick Delany's 1st wife whom he married in 1732 was Margaret Tenison)....etc Dave Hall... 1691. Richard Tenison, Bishop of Killala and Achonry, was trans, to Clogher on 26th February, 1690/1. He was the son of Thomas Tenison, and b. at Carrickfergus. Ed. by Mr. H. Radclifie, at St. Bee's, Cumberland, ent. T.C.D. November 2nd, 1659, aged about 17. Degrees unrecorded, except D.D. 1682 ; Vice-Chanc. 1698. Was Dio. Schoolmaster of Meath, V. Laracor and Agher, 1669-82, R. Ardmulchan 1671-2, V. Donaghmore, Meath 1675-7, Chapl. to. L.L., Dean of Clogher, R. of Louth and Beaulieu and V. St. Peter's, Drogheda, 1675-82 ; cons. Bp. of Killala February 18th, 1681/2 ; fled to London in 1689 and worked in a London parish, probably with his relative Thomas Tenison (afterwards Archbishop of Canterbury), who was then Vicar of St. Martin's-in-the-Fields, and Minister of St. James', Piccadilly. In 1691 he Was trans, to Clogher Where his preaching is said to have " won many dissenters to the Church." " In a letter to Abp. Tenison, I4th September, 1696, on the subject of dissenters, he refers to the building of a See-house. " I am now building a hermitage at Clogher, where I will . . . . . end my life in religious retirement." His wife, Anna, d. in that year, and was buried at Clones (Par. Reg.). In 1697, he was trans, to Meath. He d. 29th July, 1705, and was buried in the Chapel of T.C.D. His name is sometimes spelled. "Tennison." Among his sons were (i) Henry, T.C.D. B.A., 1687 ; M.P. for Monaghan 1695 and for Louth 1703 ; d.1709 aged 42, bur. in the Tenison Mausoleum at bunker. ****(2) Richard, B.A., T.C.D., 1704 ; B.L., M.P. for Dunleer, 1715.**** [Patrick Delany's 1st wife whom he married in 1732 was Margaret Tenison, daughter of Richard Tenison] (3) Thomas, b. at Knockbalrymore, of Thomastown, Co. Louth, afterwards known as "Knock Abbey," He published : > 1. A Sermon, preached at the Primary Visitation of Primate Michael Boyle, at Drogheda. Dub., 1679. 2. A Thanksgiving Sermon on 2 Chron. xxviii, 9. 410, 1690. 3. A Sermon, preached at the Funeral of Bishop Hopkins of Derry, 4to., Dub., 1690. 4. A Sermon, preached at Christ Ch., Dub., before the L.L. 4to., Dub., 1692. 5. A Sermon, preached at Christ. Ch., Dub., before the Lord Deputy and Parliament. 27th October, 1695. 4to., Dub., 1695. -- Anything on these pages are my intellectual property. You are free to copy and to redistribute unmodified copies for _non-commercial_purposes without restriction from me. Small quotations ("fair use") should include a citation that includes reference to URL to which I have contributed and to which I claim shared copyright to under the *90* year rule. Any other use should be consistent with normal international copyright law! Those with some legal expertise may wish to examine the extensive Copyright Law Materials from the Legal Information Institute of the Cornell Law School. __

Forgot to say that Patrick Delany's 1st wife whom he married in 1732 was Margaret Tenison, daughter of Richard Tenison, of Thomastown, Co. Louth (now Knockabbey), M.P. for Dunleer, and dau. of Wm. Barton, of Thomastown. Dave Hall.....still digging up your relatives!!! :-)) -- Anything on these pages are my intellectual property. You are free to copy and to redistribute unmodified copies for _non-commercial_purposes without restriction from me. Small quotations ("fair use") should include a citation that includes reference to URL to which I have contributed and to which I claim shared copyright to under the *90* year rule. Any other use should be consistent with normal international copyright law! Those with some legal expertise may wish to examine the extensive Copyright Law Materials from the Legal Information Institute of the Cornell Law School. __

RE; > I am trying to sort out the relationship of Rev. Patrick Delaney to a Rev. Luke George who is said to be Delaney's nephew....' Patrick Delany was son of Denis Delany, farmer, born Co Laois. He became Dean of Down, 1744. He married twice. His 2nd wife was the celebrated "Mrs. Delany" Mary Pendarves (nee Granville), widow of Alexr. Pendarves, of Cornwall, the friend and correspondent of Swift and who is honoured, like her husband, the Dean, by a biography in the Dictionary of National Biography. He died at Bath in May, 1768. So, Joshua's wife was Paddy's sister and a daughter of Denis... Patk/Paddy entered Trinity.College.Dublin. Sep. 13, 1701, aged 17 so birth c. 1684, so you should be back another generation to Denis, very doubtful if you will get back further unless his/her biography is in detail. NOTE; I haven't checked to see if the Dictionary of National Biography is on line!! Dave Hall.....digging up your relatives!!! :-)) -- Anything on these pages are my intellectual property. You are free to copy and to redistribute unmodified copies for _non-commercial_purposes without restriction from me. Small quotations ("fair use") should include a citation that includes reference to URL to which I have contributed and to which I claim shared copyright to under the *90* year rule. Any other use should be consistent with normal international copyright law! Those with some legal expertise may wish to examine the extensive Copyright Law Materials from the Legal Information Institute of the Cornell Law School. __

ireland1838.com has a great old map of Ireland, a product of the Ordance Surveys of the 1830s. You can click on one section to enlarge, then click on one area of that section to enlarge again and scroll around. It shows civil parishes, towns, mills, and churches, as well as roads, lakes, rivers, and mountains. Some of the town names have changed, but you should be able to navigate by comparing to a more modern map. Diane

Hi Chris... Rev.Luke George resigned Donagh C of I in 1788 for Killany, he was second son of Denis George/Sarah Young, Clophook, Queen's County. Denis George was the youngest son of Joshua George who married a sister of Dean Delany.... Luke married Dorothea Maxwell daughter of Archdeacon John Maxwell DH On 04/05/2013 08:00, irl-monaghan-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Put SURNAMES in CAPS > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Luke or Denis GEORGE?? (Christina Hunt) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 03 May 2013 17:38:25 -0400 > From: Christina Hunt <chrisnina@gmail.com> > Subject: [MONAGHAN] Luke or Denis GEORGE?? > To: IRL-MONAGHAN <IRL-MONAGHAN@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <51842E51.3050807@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > I am trying to sort out the relationship of Rev. Patrick Delaney to a Rev. Luke > George who is said to be Delaney's nephew. > > I found this listing at the NLI > Lease of Liassleagh in Dartry Barony, Co. Monaghan by Rev. P. Delany to Denis > George, Nov. 15, 1757. > > Does anyone know about this GEORGE family by chance? I am guessing that the > mother of Luke George was a ____ Delaney. Perhaps her husband was this Denis > George? (Or maybe not) > > Also found maybe sons of the above? > Confirmation of Arms to the *Rev. Luke George*, Rector of the parish of > Killany, Co. Louth and to his brothers, Capt. Rupert George R.N. and the Rt. > Hon. Denis George, Baron of Exchequer, Oct. 28, 1798. > > Regards, > Christina > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-MONAGHAN list administrator, send an email to > IRL-MONAGHAN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-MONAGHAN mailing list, send an email to IRL-MONAGHAN@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRL-MONAGHAN Digest, Vol 8, Issue 51 > ******************************************* > -- Anything on these pages are my intellectual property. You are free to copy and to redistribute unmodified copies for _non-commercial_purposes without restriction from me. Small quotations ("fair use") should include a citation that includes reference to URL to which I have contributed and to which I claim shared copyright to under the *90* year rule. Any other use should be consistent with normal international copyright law! Those with some legal expertise may wish to examine the extensive Copyright Law Materials from the Legal Information Institute of the Cornell Law School. __

Wow! Many thanks. On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 11:05 AM, <dlculhane@cs.com> wrote: > ireland1838.com has a great old map of Ireland, a product of the Ordance > Surveys of the 1830s. You can click on one section to enlarge, then click > on one area of that section to enlarge again and scroll around. It shows > civil parishes, towns, mills, and churches, as well as roads, lakes, > rivers, and mountains. Some of the town names have changed, but you should > be able to navigate by comparing to a more modern map. > > Diane > ================================= > > Message Boards: > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am trying to sort out the relationship of Rev. Patrick Delaney to a Rev. Luke George who is said to be Delaney's nephew. I found this listing at the NLI Lease of Liassleagh in Dartry Barony, Co. Monaghan by Rev. P. Delany to Denis George, Nov. 15, 1757. Does anyone know about this GEORGE family by chance? I am guessing that the mother of Luke George was a ____ Delaney. Perhaps her husband was this Denis George? (Or maybe not) Also found maybe sons of the above? Confirmation of Arms to the *Rev. Luke George*, Rector of the parish of Killany, Co. Louth and to his brothers, Capt. Rupert George R.N. and the Rt. Hon. Denis George, Baron of Exchequer, Oct. 28, 1798. Regards, Christina

Hi, We have added men who joined the Constabulary in 1857 To see the FULL file go to: http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/monaghan/military/ric-monaghan-1857.txt The names are: BOYD, John BOYLAN, Felix BROWN, William CLARKE, John COLEMAN, James DIXON, Patrick DONAGHY, Terence DOUGHERTY, John FOY, Philip HAMMOND, James HUGHES, James KEARNS, Francis KELLY, Thomas MAGUIRE, Francis McCABE, Edward McCABE, James McCLOY, Henry McENIFF, John McGOLDRICK, Henry McGUINESS, James McKENNA, Bernard McKENNA, Edward McKENNA, John MILLS, Joseph MORTON, John MURPHY, John MURRAY, Thomas NcNALLY, Thomas PARKS, Andrew ROURKE, Thomas TAYLOR, Alexander WOODS, Patrick Regards, Christina http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/

I am a big fan over the years of Ancestry, but I have been quite disappointed recently for precisely the reasons you cite, as well as all the ads that simply interfere with the offered services. Ralph -----Original Message----- From: irl-monaghan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-monaghan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JJG Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 10:15 AM To: IRL-MONAGHAN@rootsweb.com Subject: [MONAGHAN] (no subject) It is becoming obvious that many users are fed up with Ancestry and its latest shenanigans. I would add to the complaints in the article cited below that Ancestry deliberately at times ignores its own parameters. Things as simple as checking "EXACT" for two search items often result in an automatic "NO RECORDS FOUND" message; Ancestry wants to pretend it is giving you lots of results, but uncheck "EXACT" and in fact most if not all of what you get is junk. Often you tell Ancestry that your search is for, say, a female, and still more than half the results end up being for males! I am sure most of you can cite your own horror stories at Ancestry. Personally, I am beginning to think the monthly price is more than I want to pay for this kind of "service." John Grimes http://blog.dearmyrtle.com/2013/04/ancestrycom-wants-us-to-create-trees.html ================================= Message Boards: http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-MONAGHAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message