I am confused, I thought that since the 'record office' had burnt in 1922 there were no records - or were those only the records for Northern Ireland? And if so, would the records for the Parish of Errigal Trough, Emyvale, Glaslough, Tonynumery, etc. be in Dublin or Belfast? So if I had an ancestor born in 1865 or married in 1865 in Co. Monaghan I could write the address below and get the certificate? What about searches? Thanks for your help, Sandra Whittaker (Northern Alberta, Canada) "Jean L. Mattox" wrote: > As far as I know, there is no ancestry centre in Co. Monaghan where you can > gather family histories or records. > Birth Certificates may be obtained from > Office of the Register General > Joyce House > 8-11 Lombaard Street East > Dublin 2 > Republic of Ireland > > The fee is 5.5 Irish pounds plus 1.5 pounds for postage. > The current conversion is about $1.20 per Irish pound - but that changes > daily. Your bank will charge you an arm & a leg to exchange your dollars > for pounds but I know of no other way. You could write to ask about using a > credit card. I've no knowledge about that. > Send all info you have in order to give them a better chance to find the > cert you want. > > The records began in 1863 by Brit Decree, so, you won't get birth certs but > you may have someone else in your line (a sibling?) that was born anytime > during or after 1863. > > The names you have don't sound Irish. Were they, perhaps, Scots? What > church do you s'pose they attended? Some of the RC church records have been > filmed. That's how I found my family in Carrrickmacross. > Have you checked the LDS catalog online to see if they have any info that > might help you? > > www.familysearch.org > jean

Hi Sandra, I too am researching Emyvale in the Parish of Errigal Truath, County Monaghan. Not having a lot of success. I am looking for McKENNA married to PENDLETON. There are so many McKENNA families, it is unbelievable. The PENDLETONS however, are as elusive as the fairies in the glen. Who are you looking for? I hope they lived next door to my rellies. I hope that whoever answers, you about where to send to for certificates, does so to the list. If not could you let me know please. Still hoping, Therese.

Hi David, Thank you for your help and suggestions. The site you gave me is really very useful, because Tom is totally Irish and as yet does not know one single townland of any of his ancestors. Will that be a mammoth task? I am 5/8 Irish and only know the one now, Mullan. Would marriages be entered by the Priest? He would be an educated man and unlikely to make spelling mistakes. Could it have been a helper who made the entry, in which case he may have spelt it phonetically? Oh, for crystal ball! No, Mullin and Coma?nne were not the names of the witnesses. They were very clearly written as Franciscio McKENNA and Hellena CAMPBELL. I am willing to grasp at the straw that they were the townlands. It is the closest I have ever been to finding another clue. What do you all think? Am I going off the track? I need all the help and suggestions I can get. Thank you for your help. Therese.

I used a site http://www.seanruad.com, which is a searchable database of Irish townlands to find two Mullan townlands in the parishes of Errigal Trough and Tullycorbet, and there is a Mullans in Clontibret parish. Any help? Also - Coma?nne sounds a bit like the name 'Cremorne' - one of the baronies of Co.Monaghan. Alternatively, could the two names in brackets be not place names at all but the surnames of two witnesses to the marriages? (A guess, I'm no expert!) Best wishes, David O'Daly. >From: PJClerkin <patrick.clerkin@virgin.net> >Reply-To: patrick.clerkin@virgin.net >To: IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: WHERE ARE MULLIN AND COMA?NNE. >Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 23:18:59 +0000 > >I do not know about Comanne? but there is a Mullan village in North Co >Monaghan. I would presume that is the place mentioned. Do not be put off by >the >spelling alot of people spoke gaelic language in those parts up until the >early >part of the last century and spellings varied. > >http://www.county-monaghan.net/mullan/ > >PJ > >Tom & Therese Hoare wrote: > > > Dear Listers, > > > > Can anyone please tell me if the above are townlands in Monaghan? These > > names were in a Church marriage entry on the LDS film no.0979706. The >film > > is of Catholic Church marriages for the Parish of Errigal Truath, >Tyrone. > > The marriage of my g.grandfather James McKENNA and Mary McCALLEN is on >that > > film, but I do not know which Church it was. The two names MULLIN and > > COMA?NNE were in brackets, Mullin under James name and Coma?nne under > > Mary's name. Would these be their townlands? > > > > Any help would be very gratefully received. > > > > Therese. > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Looking for family of John WALLACE b. 1808 in Monaghan County. He immigrated to Quebec, Canada in 1822 & later moved to Ontario, Canada where he died in 1891. His wife was Jane JOHNSTON. John WALLACE was survived by a brother of Lansdowne, Ontario & a sister of Buffalo, New York, USA. I believe John WALLACE had a sister named Elizabeth who married Hugh McANALLY. In 1850 Elizabeth & Hugh McANALLY were in Tollcross (Glasgow), Scotland. By 1869, Elizabeth was a widow. I last found her in Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland in 1881. Her name was Elizabeth WALLACE in the census. Thanks! Sue Marcus

Does anyone recognise this line?: Patrick Daly b.1786, married Margaret (c.1815?), d.1863, buried Lisdoonan. Buried by Charles Daly (son) b.1816, m.1895 to Judith (Susan)(O')Duffy of Carrickatee, he died 1889. His 12 children included Patrick b.1864, Hugh b.1867, Margaret b.1865. Patrick moved to Lurgahamla c.1895 upon marriage to Julia Marron and return from Montana. Would welcome any contact with anyone who might have any information about these ancestors. Best wishes, David O'Daly. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

I do not know about Comanne? but there is a Mullan village in North Co Monaghan. I would presume that is the place mentioned. Do not be put off by the spelling alot of people spoke gaelic language in those parts up until the early part of the last century and spellings varied. http://www.county-monaghan.net/mullan/ PJ Tom & Therese Hoare wrote: > Dear Listers, > > Can anyone please tell me if the above are townlands in Monaghan? These > names were in a Church marriage entry on the LDS film no.0979706. The film > is of Catholic Church marriages for the Parish of Errigal Truath, Tyrone. > The marriage of my g.grandfather James McKENNA and Mary McCALLEN is on that > film, but I do not know which Church it was. The two names MULLIN and > COMA?NNE were in brackets, Mullin under James name and Coma?nne under > Mary's name. Would these be their townlands? > > Any help would be very gratefully received. > > Therese.

Dear Listers, Can anyone please tell me if the above are townlands in Monaghan? These names were in a Church marriage entry on the LDS film no.0979706. The film is of Catholic Church marriages for the Parish of Errigal Truath, Tyrone. The marriage of my g.grandfather James McKENNA and Mary McCALLEN is on that film, but I do not know which Church it was. The two names MULLIN and COMA?NNE were in brackets, Mullin under James name and Coma?nne under Mary's name. Would these be their townlands? Any help would be very gratefully received. Therese.

unsubscribe "Jean L. Mattox" wrote: > PS, that's 6 Tully Road, Monaghan Town, County Monaghan, Ireland

There is an index to nation wide births for the year you want. Just look up the birth in the index (you can get the microfilm at your local Morman FHC). It is will give you a volume and page number. Then order the film with that volume for births, and you have all the info you wanted on the parents. If you want baptismal info then you need to contact the church they would have attended in Clontibret parish, but the national register of births will give more info. Joan Margaret Steele wrote: > Hi > > My name is Margaret Steele. I have been researching my family tree on the > Scottish lists for about a year now. Two of my branches come from Ireland, > but I have only one very slight (and I do mean slight) clue to where one > branch comes from. I obtained a birth certificate for a PETER MONE born in > Glasgow in 1889. His parents were PATRICK MONE and CATHERINE MONE ? and > they were married on 7th January 1877 in the Parish of CLONTIBRET. I know > my mother had 'a' cousin Peter Mone and this is the only one born in > Scotland over a period of 20 years. Would anyone on the list have access > to the records for Clontibret. If I knew the names of PATRICK'S parents I > might be able to take my research further. > > I'll keep my fingers crossed > Margaret Steele > Hampshire, England > <margaret.steele@virgin.net>

Looking for any info on a James Drum fron Drummully,Clonhulan,Co.Monaghan.this info came from the Griffith's valuation of Ireland CD. Regards Robert.

Hi My name is Margaret Steele. I have been researching my family tree on the Scottish lists for about a year now. Two of my branches come from Ireland, but I have only one very slight (and I do mean slight) clue to where one branch comes from. I obtained a birth certificate for a PETER MONE born in Glasgow in 1889. His parents were PATRICK MONE and CATHERINE MONE ? and they were married on 7th January 1877 in the Parish of CLONTIBRET. I know my mother had 'a' cousin Peter Mone and this is the only one born in Scotland over a period of 20 years. Would anyone on the list have access to the records for Clontibret. If I knew the names of PATRICK'S parents I might be able to take my research further. I'll keep my fingers crossed Margaret Steele Hampshire, England <margaret.steele@virgin.net>

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PS, that's 6 Tully Road, Monaghan Town, County Monaghan, Ireland

The address: 6 Tully is Theo. McMahon's home and office for the Clogher Historical Society. Annual membership is 20 pounds. For that , you get the once per year book of history of the area. If anyone wants directions on how to get to his office, lemme know. It's on my list of the 'must do' things I do when I get there. But, County Monaghan does not have the Genealogical Centres that a lot of the other counties now have up-and-running. Monaghan is a sort of 'orphan'. I've picked up tour books that do not even mention the county. As tourism goes, it has no well-known 'spots' But, I've stayed in a haunted castle on Hallowe'en and viewed some gorgeous lakes and enchanting towns. It's peaceful and lovely - and you don't have to bend over backwards to kiss its castle. jean

As far as I know, there is no ancestry centre in Co. Monaghan where you can gather family histories or records. Birth Certificates may be obtained from Office of the Register General Joyce House 8-11 Lombaard Street East Dublin 2 Republic of Ireland The fee is 5.5 Irish pounds plus 1.5 pounds for postage. The current conversion is about $1.20 per Irish pound - but that changes daily. Your bank will charge you an arm & a leg to exchange your dollars for pounds but I know of no other way. You could write to ask about using a credit card. I've no knowledge about that. Send all info you have in order to give them a better chance to find the cert you want. The records began in 1863 by Brit Decree, so, you won't get birth certs but you may have someone else in your line (a sibling?) that was born anytime during or after 1863. The names you have don't sound Irish. Were they, perhaps, Scots? What church do you s'pose they attended? Some of the RC church records have been filmed. That's how I found my family in Carrrickmacross. Have you checked the LDS catalog online to see if they have any info that might help you? www.familysearch.org jean

Hi Rosemary,I would be interested in the other listings for Monaghan. Regards Robert Drumm. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rosemary Cairns" <rcairns@internorth.com> To: <IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 1:42 AM Subject: Re: IRL-MONAGHAN-D Digest V00 #16 > > Would like to contact Monaghan Ancestry, if there is such a place, to > > locate this record as I do not believe I have enough information to > > find > > this from Canada. > > Monaghan Ancestry, 6 Tully, Monaghan, Co. Monaghan. > Contact: Theo McMahon or Maire O'Neill > Tel: 047-82304, fax is the same > Email: theo@tinet.ie (however, when I tried this, it came back.0 > > Information comes from A Visitor's Guide, Ulster Libraries, Archives, > Museums & Ancestral Heritage Centres, by Robert K. O'Neill. There are > other listings for Co. Monaghan resources if anyone is interested. > > Rosemary Cairns > Yellowknife, NT > > > Subject: Surname > > Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:40:07 -0500 > > From: "nanny" <nanny@eurekanet.com> > > To: IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com > > > > Looking for Kerran/Kearns. > > Surely there is some in Co.Monaghan. > > That is where my Patrick Kearns,came from. > > > > Any help will be GREATLY APPRECIATED. > > Emolene Lynch > > nanny@eurekanet.com > > There is a very extensive Cairns/Kearns website that you might want to > look at. It has a tremendous amount of information. > > http://www.cadvision.com/traces/kcc/kearns.html > > Rosemary Cairns > Yellowknife NT >

> Would like to contact Monaghan Ancestry, if there is such a place, to > locate this record as I do not believe I have enough information to > find > this from Canada. Monaghan Ancestry, 6 Tully, Monaghan, Co. Monaghan. Contact: Theo McMahon or Maire O'Neill Tel: 047-82304, fax is the same Email: theo@tinet.ie (however, when I tried this, it came back.0 Information comes from A Visitor's Guide, Ulster Libraries, Archives, Museums & Ancestral Heritage Centres, by Robert K. O'Neill. There are other listings for Co. Monaghan resources if anyone is interested. Rosemary Cairns Yellowknife, NT Subject: Surname > Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:40:07 -0500 > From: "nanny" <nanny@eurekanet.com> > To: IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com > > Looking for Kerran/Kearns. > Surely there is some in Co.Monaghan. > That is where my Patrick Kearns,came from. > > Any help will be GREATLY APPRECIATED. > Emolene Lynch > nanny@eurekanet.com There is a very extensive Cairns/Kearns website that you might want to look at. It has a tremendous amount of information. http://www.cadvision.com/traces/kcc/kearns.html Rosemary Cairns Yellowknife NT

Hi I know nothing really about my gr-gr-grandmother. But I will keep you in mind and in a file. If you every come across my Peacock's just give me a hollar. Regards Gail

Re. Monaghan Ancestry: The postal address given in Ryan's "Irish Records" is: Monaghan Ancestry 6 Tully Monaghan, Co. Monaghan, Ireland fax: (353) 47 82304 (Irish phone number, I believe). "Searches for Monaghan families (by post only) will be conducted for a fee." In other words, don't fax a request. Have had no experience with this heritage center. Sally M.