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    1. [MONAGHAN] Cassidy, Murray, Monaghan 1800-1837
    2. Kerrie Stephens
    3. I am looking for information on Sarah Cassidy nee Murray, and Cormick Cassidy. Sarah was born in 1796, and married Cormick Cassidy to whom she had four daughters and a son in Monaghan. She was 40 years old when she was arrested and sent for trial in Co. Monaghan in October 1836. She was sentenced to 7 years transportation to New South Wales. Sarah was allowed to bring two of her children, Elizabeth aged 8 and Maryann aged 11 with her. A third daughter, Catherine, aged 18 arrived later that year after being convicted of an offence. Strangely the convict indent says both parents are living but describes Sarah as a widow. I do not know what happened to the son and daughter left behind. If anyone else is researching the Cassidy's or Murray's I'd be interested to hear from you. Regards Kerrie Stephens

    03/13/2000 03:41:13
    1. [MONAGHAN] genealogy
    2. I came across some posts on the internet a few months back. They were names of families from fermanagh and Monaghan I believe. Now I can't find them. They were of the names Nixon and McCabe. Does anyone know how I can find them again? I think they were transcribed from some documents. Thanks, Jane from South Bend

    03/13/2000 10:32:04
    1. Re: [MONAGHAN] WRIGHT/MADILL
    2. Dean & Mary Ewing
    3. Hello. My gg grandmother was Hannah Wright married to David Mahaffey who changed the spelling of the name when he came to the states. They were married in County Monaghan or at least lived there before coming over. They were Presbyterians. Wonder if the Wright might be related to the one mentioned here. Have not worked on the Wright family at all, but have wondered about it. David and wife came to Iowa in the 1870's. Mary Ewing McComb, OH

    03/13/2000 09:51:19
    1. Re: [MONAGHAN] WRIGHT/MADILL
    2. Sandra Whittaker
    3. Just by chance you wouldn't have a Thomas Wright who had sons: Samuel & David. Samuel birth info unknown, died at over age 80 on Sept 23, year unknown, and is buried at the 'Family Grounds', occupation - Farmer - lived at Glassmullagh/Shanco at the time of his marriage to Rebecca McCrudden Feb 9, 1852 at the Parish Church Parish, Errigle Trough, Co. Monaghan, Ireland. Rebecca's father is Thomas McCrudden, she was born Jan 4, 1852 in Ireland and died in 1932 (place unknown). thanks, Sandy W "Gregor J. Wright" wrote: > I was curious if anyone here was researching WRIGHT and MADILL in Monaghan. > I am desperately looking for information on this family: > > George WRIGHT married Mary MADILL. They had a son, Anthony (given name could > have been Andrew) in 1822 or 1823, in County Monaghan, but specific location > not known. Anthony later married Ann MADILL (a cousin??). They emigrated to > Lanark in Scotland and ended up living mostly in Shettleston. Ann died of > stomach cancer in 1856 and Anthony later remarried to a woman named Sarah > GRAHAM. Anthony's father George was listed as a Small Farmer. Ann's parents > were listed as Matthew MADILL and Mary DEVLIN. > > Would anyone happen to have any information on this family? If not, how can > I go about getting specific info on these individuals? Until now, all of my > research has been in Scotland, so I've been successful in getting info from > Origins and also the IGI on fiche. Any help would be greatly appreciated! > > Regards, > > Gregor J. Wright > > ==== IRL-MONAGHAN Mailing List ==== > If you'd like to read all previous messages that have been sent to this > list, go to the archives of the list that are located at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/IRL-MONAGHAN-L/ > and > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=irl-monaghan

    03/13/2000 09:48:42
    1. Re: [MONAGHAN] Re: IRL-MONAGHAN-D Digest V00 #16
    2. Sandra Whittaker
    3. Thanks to David O'Daly for clarifying the records issue for me, appreciate it! Thanks, Sandy W "Joan M. Hill" wrote: > If your folks were Protestants there are records starting in 1845, if not, then > 1865. If you are near a Morman FHC, you can rent the index to births, > marriages, deaths and save yourself the wait & the search fee. Once you have > the volume & page from the index, you can rent the film with the actual record. > > My FHC has the indexes and I am going tomorrow, so if you want a few names > searched, I will do it for nothing. > Joan > > David O'Daly wrote: > > > The fire in 1922 destroyed the existing pre-1901 censuses > > (e.g.1821,1831,1841) held at the PRO in Dublin, and I think many old wills, > > but not the civil registration records from 1.1.1864. I was able to get > > copies of birth, death, marriage register entries back to 1864 for Monaghan, > > by asking for a search by post and waiting three weeks or so. They search a > > year or two back and forward of a date, and need some information on the > > name to be able to supply a copy of the register entry or a certificate > > copy. They will supply a leaflet if you write to Joyce House, giving details > > of services and charges. Best wishes, David O'Daly. > > > > >From: Sandra Whittaker <elmoilsw@telusplanet.net> > > >Reply-To: IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com > > >To: IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: Re: IRL-MONAGHAN-D Digest V00 #16 > > >Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 16:21:07 -0800 > > > > > >I am confused, I thought that since the 'record office' had burnt in 1922 > > >there > > >were no records - or were those only the records for Northern Ireland? And > > >if > > >so, would the records for the Parish of Errigal Trough, Emyvale, Glaslough, > > >Tonynumery, etc. be in Dublin or Belfast? So if I had an ancestor born in > > >1865 > > >or married in 1865 in Co. Monaghan I could write the address below and get > > >the > > >certificate? What about searches? Thanks for your help, Sandra Whittaker > > >(Northern Alberta, Canada) > > > > > > > > >"Jean L. Mattox" wrote: > > > > > > > As far as I know, there is no ancestry centre in Co. Monaghan where you > > >can > > > > gather family histories or records. > > > > Birth Certificates may be obtained from > > > > Office of the Register General > > > > Joyce House > > > > 8-11 Lombaard Street East > > > > Dublin 2 > > > > Republic of Ireland > > > > > > > > The fee is 5.5 Irish pounds plus 1.5 pounds for postage. > > > > The current conversion is about $1.20 per Irish pound - but that changes > > > > daily. Your bank will charge you an arm & a leg to exchange your dollars > > > > for pounds but I know of no other way. You could write to ask about > > >using a > > > > credit card. I've no knowledge about that. > > > > Send all info you have in order to give them a better chance to find the > > > > cert you want. > > > > > > > > The records began in 1863 by Brit Decree, so, you won't get birth certs > > >but > > > > you may have someone else in your line (a sibling?) that was born > > >anytime > > > > during or after 1863. > > > > > > > > The names you have don't sound Irish. Were they, perhaps, Scots? What > > > > church do you s'pose they attended? Some of the RC church records have > > >been > > > > filmed. That's how I found my family in Carrrickmacross. > > > > Have you checked the LDS catalog online to see if they have any info > > >that > > > > might help you? > > > > > > > > www.familysearch.org > > > > jean > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > ==== IRL-MONAGHAN Mailing List ==== > > If you'd like to read all previous messages that have been sent to this > > list, go to the archives of the list that are located at: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/IRL-MONAGHAN-L/ > > and > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=irl-monaghan > > ==== IRL-MONAGHAN Mailing List ==== > If you'd like to read all previous messages that have been sent to this > list, go to the archives of the list that are located at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/IRL-MONAGHAN-L/ > and > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=irl-monaghan

    03/13/2000 09:38:45
    1. Re: [MONAGHAN] Re: IRL-MONAGHAN-D Digest V00 #16
    2. Sandra Whittaker
    3. That would be wonderful, Joan - here's the info I would like to confirm: David Boyd, born December 22, 1843, Tonynumery, Co. Monaghan, Ireland - Father: John Boyd - Mother - Matilda Woods Jane (or Jean?) McCrudden, born December 23, 1845, Killylaragh, Co. Monaghan - Father Thomas McCrudden - Mother - unknown Marriage: David Boyd and Jane McCrudden married Feb 9, 1865, Dernalosset, Ireland Children of this marriage born in Ireland: John Boyd, December 22, 1865, Glaslough, Co. Monaghan, Ireland Thomas Boyd, June 7, 1867, Glaslough (or possibly Dernalosset) Co. Monaghan, Ireland William Herbert Boyd, August 29, 1869, birthplace unknown Is one able to identify possible siblings (I'm looking for those of David Boyd in particular) from the index? (Not sure how much detail the index would give you) Appreciate your time and efforts - Where are you? I am in Northern Alberta, Canada and do make the odd trip to Victoria, British Columbia - so if I can be of some assistance, I'd be only too happy. Thanks, Sandra Whittaker "Joan M. Hill" wrote: > If your folks were Protestants there are records starting in 1845, if not, then > 1865. If you are near a Morman FHC, you can rent the index to births, > marriages, deaths and save yourself the wait & the search fee. Once you have > the volume & page from the index, you can rent the film with the actual record. > > My FHC has the indexes and I am going tomorrow, so if you want a few names > searched, I will do it for nothing. > Joan > > David O'Daly wrote: > > > The fire in 1922 destroyed the existing pre-1901 censuses > > (e.g.1821,1831,1841) held at the PRO in Dublin, and I think many old wills, > > but not the civil registration records from 1.1.1864. I was able to get > > copies of birth, death, marriage register entries back to 1864 for Monaghan, > > by asking for a search by post and waiting three weeks or so. They search a > > year or two back and forward of a date, and need some information on the > > name to be able to supply a copy of the register entry or a certificate > > copy. They will supply a leaflet if you write to Joyce House, giving details > > of services and charges. Best wishes, David O'Daly. > > > > >From: Sandra Whittaker <elmoilsw@telusplanet.net> > > >Reply-To: IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com > > >To: IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: Re: IRL-MONAGHAN-D Digest V00 #16 > > >Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 16:21:07 -0800 > > > > > >I am confused, I thought that since the 'record office' had burnt in 1922 > > >there > > >were no records - or were those only the records for Northern Ireland? And > > >if > > >so, would the records for the Parish of Errigal Trough, Emyvale, Glaslough, > > >Tonynumery, etc. be in Dublin or Belfast? So if I had an ancestor born in > > >1865 > > >or married in 1865 in Co. Monaghan I could write the address below and get > > >the > > >certificate? What about searches? Thanks for your help, Sandra Whittaker > > >(Northern Alberta, Canada) > > > > > > > > >"Jean L. Mattox" wrote: > > > > > > > As far as I know, there is no ancestry centre in Co. Monaghan where you > > >can > > > > gather family histories or records. > > > > Birth Certificates may be obtained from > > > > Office of the Register General > > > > Joyce House > > > > 8-11 Lombaard Street East > > > > Dublin 2 > > > > Republic of Ireland > > > > > > > > The fee is 5.5 Irish pounds plus 1.5 pounds for postage. > > > > The current conversion is about $1.20 per Irish pound - but that changes > > > > daily. Your bank will charge you an arm & a leg to exchange your dollars > > > > for pounds but I know of no other way. You could write to ask about > > >using a > > > > credit card. I've no knowledge about that. > > > > Send all info you have in order to give them a better chance to find the > > > > cert you want. > > > > > > > > The records began in 1863 by Brit Decree, so, you won't get birth certs > > >but > > > > you may have someone else in your line (a sibling?) that was born > > >anytime > > > > during or after 1863. > > > > > > > > The names you have don't sound Irish. Were they, perhaps, Scots? What > > > > church do you s'pose they attended? Some of the RC church records have > > >been > > > > filmed. That's how I found my family in Carrrickmacross. > > > > Have you checked the LDS catalog online to see if they have any info > > >that > > > > might help you? > > > > > > > > www.familysearch.org > > > > jean > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > ==== IRL-MONAGHAN Mailing List ==== > > If you'd like to read all previous messages that have been sent to this > > list, go to the archives of the list that are located at: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/IRL-MONAGHAN-L/ > > and > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=irl-monaghan > > ==== IRL-MONAGHAN Mailing List ==== > If you'd like to read all previous messages that have been sent to this > list, go to the archives of the list that are located at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/IRL-MONAGHAN-L/ > and > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=irl-monaghan

    03/13/2000 09:37:49
    1. [MONAGHAN] McNally, Wallace
    2. Looking for info on Hugh McNally (McAnally, McInally, etc) who married Elizabeth Wallace about 1845. I know that Elizabeth Wallace was from Monaghan Co & I suspect Hugh McNally was from there also. They had one known daughter - Ann Jane McNally b. 1850 in Scotland, my great grandmother. Thanks, Sue Marcus

    03/13/2000 09:19:02
    1. Re: [MONAGHAN] Re: IRL-MONAGHAN-D Digest V00 #16
    2. Hi All, I am looking for the Lucas surname in Monaghan. They are the Castle Shane Lucas's. Would love more information this surname. I have been able to go as far back, without proven documention unfortunatly, to an Edward Lucas, Esq. who was Military Police for the County of Monaghan for sometime. His approximate year of birth was 1687 and death 1730. Arms were granted in 1716 in recognition of meritorious service to King George I. (this information was found in Burk's "General Armory" pg. 627, this book is out of print now) The antecedants in chronological order to direct male lineage leading to the present Lucas Family were: William Lucas (1711-1763): Little is recorded of the life of this ancestor expect that he carried on the work of his father at Castle Shane. ** William Lucas II (1740-1771): Emigrated to Mozambique, Portugal East Africa, in 1770 where he was an aid to the Governor. ** William Lucas III (1757-1794): Appointed to Captain of Port Funchal in 1722, William III settled in the Portuguese Island of Maderia. ** Paul Lucas (1779-1835) of Maderia Portugal. Other than vital statistics, there is little in the records concerning his life. Antone Lucas (1825-1877) Emigrated from Maderia to the Hawaiian Islands in 1877. Manuel Lucas (1877-1936) Joseph Lucas (1912-) {this is my grandfather} ** "A History of Portuguese Families" pp.420-27 This information was given to me by my mother who told me that my uncle had this done by some researcher but no name was written on the paper as to whom the researcher was. Would love to have more information especially any siblings and marriages. Thanks again, and Happy Hunting, Kimberly Adams-Cofer

    03/13/2000 06:09:21
    1. [MONAGHAN] Re: IRL-MONAGHAN-D Digest V00 #16
    2. David O'Daly
    3. The fire in 1922 destroyed the existing pre-1901 censuses (e.g.1821,1831,1841) held at the PRO in Dublin, and I think many old wills, but not the civil registration records from 1.1.1864. I was able to get copies of birth, death, marriage register entries back to 1864 for Monaghan, by asking for a search by post and waiting three weeks or so. They search a year or two back and forward of a date, and need some information on the name to be able to supply a copy of the register entry or a certificate copy. They will supply a leaflet if you write to Joyce House, giving details of services and charges. Best wishes, David O'Daly. >From: Sandra Whittaker <elmoilsw@telusplanet.net> >Reply-To: IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com >To: IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: IRL-MONAGHAN-D Digest V00 #16 >Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 16:21:07 -0800 > >I am confused, I thought that since the 'record office' had burnt in 1922 >there >were no records - or were those only the records for Northern Ireland? And >if >so, would the records for the Parish of Errigal Trough, Emyvale, Glaslough, >Tonynumery, etc. be in Dublin or Belfast? So if I had an ancestor born in >1865 >or married in 1865 in Co. Monaghan I could write the address below and get >the >certificate? What about searches? Thanks for your help, Sandra Whittaker >(Northern Alberta, Canada) > > >"Jean L. Mattox" wrote: > > > As far as I know, there is no ancestry centre in Co. Monaghan where you >can > > gather family histories or records. > > Birth Certificates may be obtained from > > Office of the Register General > > Joyce House > > 8-11 Lombaard Street East > > Dublin 2 > > Republic of Ireland > > > > The fee is 5.5 Irish pounds plus 1.5 pounds for postage. > > The current conversion is about $1.20 per Irish pound - but that changes > > daily. Your bank will charge you an arm & a leg to exchange your dollars > > for pounds but I know of no other way. You could write to ask about >using a > > credit card. I've no knowledge about that. > > Send all info you have in order to give them a better chance to find the > > cert you want. > > > > The records began in 1863 by Brit Decree, so, you won't get birth certs >but > > you may have someone else in your line (a sibling?) that was born >anytime > > during or after 1863. > > > > The names you have don't sound Irish. Were they, perhaps, Scots? What > > church do you s'pose they attended? Some of the RC church records have >been > > filmed. That's how I found my family in Carrrickmacross. > > Have you checked the LDS catalog online to see if they have any info >that > > might help you? > > > > www.familysearch.org > > jean > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

    03/13/2000 04:16:37
    1. Re: [MONAGHAN] Re: IRL-MONAGHAN-D Digest V00 #16
    2. Joan M. Hill
    3. If your folks were Protestants there are records starting in 1845, if not, then 1865. If you are near a Morman FHC, you can rent the index to births, marriages, deaths and save yourself the wait & the search fee. Once you have the volume & page from the index, you can rent the film with the actual record. My FHC has the indexes and I am going tomorrow, so if you want a few names searched, I will do it for nothing. Joan David O'Daly wrote: > The fire in 1922 destroyed the existing pre-1901 censuses > (e.g.1821,1831,1841) held at the PRO in Dublin, and I think many old wills, > but not the civil registration records from 1.1.1864. I was able to get > copies of birth, death, marriage register entries back to 1864 for Monaghan, > by asking for a search by post and waiting three weeks or so. They search a > year or two back and forward of a date, and need some information on the > name to be able to supply a copy of the register entry or a certificate > copy. They will supply a leaflet if you write to Joyce House, giving details > of services and charges. Best wishes, David O'Daly. > > >From: Sandra Whittaker <elmoilsw@telusplanet.net> > >Reply-To: IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com > >To: IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: IRL-MONAGHAN-D Digest V00 #16 > >Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 16:21:07 -0800 > > > >I am confused, I thought that since the 'record office' had burnt in 1922 > >there > >were no records - or were those only the records for Northern Ireland? And > >if > >so, would the records for the Parish of Errigal Trough, Emyvale, Glaslough, > >Tonynumery, etc. be in Dublin or Belfast? So if I had an ancestor born in > >1865 > >or married in 1865 in Co. Monaghan I could write the address below and get > >the > >certificate? What about searches? Thanks for your help, Sandra Whittaker > >(Northern Alberta, Canada) > > > > > >"Jean L. Mattox" wrote: > > > > > As far as I know, there is no ancestry centre in Co. Monaghan where you > >can > > > gather family histories or records. > > > Birth Certificates may be obtained from > > > Office of the Register General > > > Joyce House > > > 8-11 Lombaard Street East > > > Dublin 2 > > > Republic of Ireland > > > > > > The fee is 5.5 Irish pounds plus 1.5 pounds for postage. > > > The current conversion is about $1.20 per Irish pound - but that changes > > > daily. Your bank will charge you an arm & a leg to exchange your dollars > > > for pounds but I know of no other way. You could write to ask about > >using a > > > credit card. I've no knowledge about that. > > > Send all info you have in order to give them a better chance to find the > > > cert you want. > > > > > > The records began in 1863 by Brit Decree, so, you won't get birth certs > >but > > > you may have someone else in your line (a sibling?) that was born > >anytime > > > during or after 1863. > > > > > > The names you have don't sound Irish. Were they, perhaps, Scots? What > > > church do you s'pose they attended? Some of the RC church records have > >been > > > filmed. That's how I found my family in Carrrickmacross. > > > Have you checked the LDS catalog online to see if they have any info > >that > > > might help you? > > > > > > www.familysearch.org > > > jean > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ==== IRL-MONAGHAN Mailing List ==== > If you'd like to read all previous messages that have been sent to this > list, go to the archives of the list that are located at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/IRL-MONAGHAN-L/ > and > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=irl-monaghan

    03/13/2000 02:08:55
    1. [MONAGHAN] Introduction and Interests
    2. Gregor J. Wright
    3. Good evening all, Just wanted to re-introduce myself to the list. I have been keeping quiet for the past several months (working too much and not spending enough time on my genealogical research!) and wanted to get back into things. Below is a list of my current family research and areas. If anyone is researching similar interests, please let me know. In addition, I am more than glad to help anyone in anyway I can!! Good luck on your searches! Best regards, Gregor J. Wright ADAMSON - Dumfries ALEXANDER - Lanark BOAG - Ayr BOGLE - Lanark; Renfrew BOND - Lanark; Stirling BROWN/BROUN - Perth CAIN - Lanark CATHCART - Lanark; Renfrew CRICHTON - Lanark; Midlothian; West Lothian CONNELL - Lanark CROSSE/CORSE - Lanark CULLEN - Lanark DOIG - Midlothian DOUGLAS - Renfrew DUNLOP - Lanark; Stirling EASTON - Lanark FERGUSON - Lanark; Renfrew FORREST - Lanark GLADMOND/GLANDMAN/GLADMON - Ayr GRACIE - Dumfries HARVEY - Lanark HOLIDAY - Dumfries JACKSON - Ayr JOHNSTON - Midlothian KNOX - Lanark LOTHIAN - Midlothian LYON - Fife; Midlothian; Perth MacDONALD/McDONALD - Lanark; Ayr MADILL - County Monaghan, Ireland MAXWELL - Midlothian MUIR - Dumfries; Lanark MURDOCH - Lanark; Renfrew OFFICER - Ayr SCOTT - Lanark; Renfrew SHAW - Lanark SOMMERVILLE/SOMERVILLE/SOMERVILL - Lanark STEWART - Perth; Renfrew STEVENSON - Ayr STIRLING - Lanark SWAN - Lanark TELFER - Lanark WARDLAW - Midlothian WOODROP/WODDROP - Lanark WRIGHT - Lanark and County Monaghan, Ireland YOUNG - Lanark

    03/12/2000 10:34:40
    1. [MONAGHAN] WRIGHT/MADILL
    2. Gregor J. Wright
    3. I was curious if anyone here was researching WRIGHT and MADILL in Monaghan. I am desperately looking for information on this family: George WRIGHT married Mary MADILL. They had a son, Anthony (given name could have been Andrew) in 1822 or 1823, in County Monaghan, but specific location not known. Anthony later married Ann MADILL (a cousin??). They emigrated to Lanark in Scotland and ended up living mostly in Shettleston. Ann died of stomach cancer in 1856 and Anthony later remarried to a woman named Sarah GRAHAM. Anthony's father George was listed as a Small Farmer. Ann's parents were listed as Matthew MADILL and Mary DEVLIN. Would anyone happen to have any information on this family? If not, how can I go about getting specific info on these individuals? Until now, all of my research has been in Scotland, so I've been successful in getting info from Origins and also the IGI on fiche. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Regards, Gregor J. Wright

    03/12/2000 09:40:04
    1. [MONAGHAN] Re: V00 #19/Naming patterns/currency exchange
    2. sardine
    3. Re: Irish naming patterns: The general rule at least in the 19th century, perhaps before and/or after, was this: The first boy is named after the father's father. The second boy is named after the mother's father. The first girl is named after the father's mother. The second girl is named after the mother's mother. After that, the next child could be named after a grandparent or a sibling of the parents, or an uncle or aunt or whatever, as appropriate. So names are repeated and repeated over the generations. Not everyone followed this pattern, but it was very widespread. I speak from the standpoint of five Thomases in a row in my direct line. Re. Currency exchange: That's right, the bank will charge you an arm and a leg to get a check in Irish punts. However, there is an alternative: in the USA, look in the telephone book's yellow pages under "foreign currency brokers." One listed is Thomas Cook Currency Services, a well-known travel name, with a toll-free number in my book: 1-800-287-7362, to obtain the nearest outlet to you. There are others that are national in scope, or are known in other local areas. Call around and find out who will do it for the least amount (usually a flat fee). These outfits are usually much, much cheaper than the bank. But be sure that the one you chose has a good reputation, and is not just some check-cashing outfit next to the local tavern. Sally M.

    03/12/2000 07:32:28
    1. Re: [MONAGHAN] IRL-MONAGHAN-D Digest V00 #19
    2. rachael
    3. The Irish naming pattern I am familiar with is as follows: First son named after paternal grandfather Second son named after maternal grandfather Third son named after his own father First daughter named after maternal grandmother Second daughter named after paternal grandmother Third daughter named after her own mother If a child died in infancy, the next child born, of the same sex, was often given the name of the deceased child. Hope this helps. Rachael -----Original Message----- From: Jean L. Mattox <74743.114@compuserve.com> To: IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com <IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, March 12, 2000 8:28 PM Subject: [MONAGHAN] IRL-MONAGHAN-D Digest V00 #19 >What I've picked up about naming children: > First male is named after the child's paternal g.father > The first female is names after the child's maternal g.mother > I believe the next male child is named after his father. > Next female child gets her mother's name > >But I don't recall hearing about a male child getting his maternal >g.father's name >Or, the female child being named after her paternal g.mother. > >Anybody got anymore ideas about this? >jean > > >==== IRL-MONAGHAN Mailing List ==== >If you'd like to read all previous messages that have been sent to this >list, go to the archives of the list that are located at: >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/IRL-MONAGHAN-L/ >and >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=irl-monaghan > >

    03/12/2000 07:15:25
    1. [MONAGHAN] VIDEO RESEARCH
    2. murrayandrew
    3. This is the best genealogy gift you could give yourself or others. A personalised video of the exact place of origin of your Irish ancestors. Just click on the link below to find out how easy it is to get this done and for less than you might think !! http://www.video.in-ireland.net Thank you for taking the time to read this.

    03/12/2000 07:12:03
    1. [MONAGHAN] IRL-MONAGHAN-D Digest V00 #19
    2. Jean L. Mattox
    3. What I've picked up about naming children: First male is named after the child's paternal g.father The first female is names after the child's maternal g.mother I believe the next male child is named after his father. Next female child gets her mother's name But I don't recall hearing about a male child getting his maternal g.father's name Or, the female child being named after her paternal g.mother. Anybody got anymore ideas about this? jean

    03/12/2000 06:26:11
    1. [MONAGHAN] IRL-MONAGHAN-D Digest V00 #19
    2. Jean L. Mattox
    3. Try writing to Office of the Register General Joyce House 8-11 Lombard Street East Dublin 2 Republic of Ireland I cannot find the address of the office in Monaghan Town that has the record for that area. Perhaps the Dublin Office can give you that address. Do send an SASE. If you make a trip to Ireland, do be sure to buy some Irish stamps to bring home. They come in handy for theis sort of thing. jean

    03/12/2000 06:22:13
    1. [MONAGHAN] IRL-MONAGHAN-D Digest V00 #19
    2. Jean L. Mattox
    3. The records for Ulster are in the PRONI in Belfast. However, that's not to say that some of the "other" counties that are not part of Northern Ireland, don't have some records stashed in Dublin. County Monaghan is in Ulster province. Always has been and may always be so. But, since it's voted itself into the Republic, who knows where all the records are? Check the PRONI onlin http://proni.nics.gov.uk/index.htm jean

    03/12/2000 06:09:20
    1. [MONAGHAN] Monaghan
    2. Thanks to all those who replied with help on the Irish naming game. What a nice mailing list!! Happy St. Patricks Day to you all !! Jane in South Bend

    03/12/2000 03:09:55
    1. [MONAGHAN] McCabe Genealogy
    2. Could anyone tell me the Irish rules for naming children back in the early to mid 1800's? Was it different depending on the religious persuasion? I've hit a brick wall on my Michael McCabe and thought I might find some help in this way. All I know is he was born in 1855 supposedly in Monaghan and married Sarah Nixon from Fermanagh in 1871-2 before coming to NYC. Thanks for any help! Jane Burckhardt South Bend Indiana Home of the Fighting Irish!

    03/12/2000 07:41:30