At some time when your family illness issues are under control I'd like to have you contact me regarding McGuigans in PEI - Mine are Felix and Rosie and both of them married Monaghans. AChapman

As a McGuigan, I read your note with great interest. We are McGuigans who seem to have first drawn breath in Ireland---moved to PEI in Canada and are found there in the 1840 period. I have the name Hugh McGuigan born in Ireland and married a Catherine Smith---I have been unable to go further back than Hugh--place of birth in Ireland unknow---yet---We have some family illness right now, but I will send you the data I have located and see if the family might have branched off to NY at some point---and been one big happy family! Will do so as soon as possible---sincerely Catherine McGuigan ----- Original Message ----- From: <Gara1931@aol.com> To: <IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 8:20 AM Subject: [MONAGHAN] McGuigan/Kinney > I am new to the LIST > My story: > KINNEY/Kenny?McGuigan/McGonghan/McGoughan/McGough > My great grandmother Ann McGuigan was born in Ireland. She married John > Kenny/Kinney also of Ireland in Glasgow in 1850. They had Peter 1851 and John > there in 1852. John Sr.came to Troy alone 1852 and worked as an Iron > Moulder. Anne followed with the baby John in 1853. The older child Peter was > not in the 1855 NYS census. My grandfather Henry was a year old in this > census. > The other children Elizabeth, James, Annie, George. Jane and Helen were born > in Troy, Rochester ? or Yonkers NY. The family later moved to Philadelphia > (1880 census), where I assume that the senior couple died and some of the > children remained, ie. Peter and Annie and Elizabeth. > > Some interesting facts: > I have located a record in Glasgow in May 12,1850...........Register of > Proclamations in a Protestant Church..........(Parish Church of St. Josephs > as indicated by a knowledgeable person) .... which states John Kenny iron > moulder Cowcaddems and Ann McGughen residing there. > > Then the census of 1851 Glasgow............... > John Kenna 22......Ann 20.........Peter 9mos > > Family History Library...................could this be a > connection??????????????? > Christening Jul 14 1833 > Clonoe Tyrone Ireland > Father Henry McGuigan > Mother Jane > > This is fact: > The Catholic Church Yonkers, New York State > Jane born March 29th 1869 John Kinny and Ann McGonghan > The same church > Helen born. 1871.........John Kenny and Ann MCGuigan > > > ==== IRL-MONAGHAN Mailing List ==== > © > >

I am new to the LIST My story: KINNEY/Kenny?McGuigan/McGonghan/McGoughan/McGough My great grandmother Ann McGuigan was born in Ireland. She married John Kenny/Kinney also of Ireland in Glasgow in 1850. They had Peter 1851 and John there in 1852. John Sr.came to Troy alone 1852 and worked as an Iron Moulder. Anne followed with the baby John in 1853. The older child Peter was not in the 1855 NYS census. My grandfather Henry was a year old in this census. The other children Elizabeth, James, Annie, George. Jane and Helen were born in Troy, Rochester ? or Yonkers NY. The family later moved to Philadelphia (1880 census), where I assume that the senior couple died and some of the children remained, ie. Peter and Annie and Elizabeth. Some interesting facts: I have located a record in Glasgow in May 12,1850...........Register of Proclamations in a Protestant Church..........(Parish Church of St. Josephs as indicated by a knowledgeable person) .... which states John Kenny iron moulder Cowcaddems and Ann McGughen residing there. Then the census of 1851 Glasgow............... John Kenna 22......Ann 20.........Peter 9mos Family History Library...................could this be a connection??????????????? Christening Jul 14 1833 Clonoe Tyrone Ireland Father Henry McGuigan Mother Jane This is fact: The Catholic Church Yonkers, New York State Jane born March 29th 1869 John Kinny and Ann McGonghan The same church Helen born. 1871.........John Kenny and Ann MCGuigan

Dear Listers, We have traced my wife's family back to George LONGMORE and Betty GIBSON who lived in Monaghan c.1780. They had 9 children, George, Joseph, David & William. The eldest, George died in Monaghan in 1827. At some unknown date he married Jane MURDOCK, the daughter of John MURDOCK & ? CARLISLE. George & Jane had the following children, Mary b.1811, Robert b.1813, Joseph b.1815, John b.1819 and Francis b.1826. After the death of George the family migrated to Australia and the youngest, Francis, eventually became a Member of Parliament in Victoria. Any information on the Longmores in Monaghan would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Bill Crozier, Brisbane.

Hello all, I've researched my family back to the 1860's in Counties Northumberland and Durham in England. The oldest document I have is an 1861 census record of my ggggrandparents in Heworth parish (near Gateshead), County Durham. My ggggrandfather, Michael STREENAN, lists his birthplace as Ireland (no county or parish named), approx. birthdate 1830. Upon close inspection of the 1861 census record the surname might have been spelled SREENAN. Don't know if that was the census taker's interpretation or the way it really was spelled. When I searched the name SREENAN at the LDS website there were a lot of hits listing County Monaghan as the birthplace. I've had little luck searching for the STREENAN surname in the Irish surname lists and am wondering if the name used to be SREENAN and then changed to STREENAN, just as the STREENAN name was changed to STRENNEN when they immigrated to the US. Currently, I'm waiting for the 7 microfilms that contain the Householder's Index (for all the counties of Ireland) to arrive at my local FHC and maybe I'll find something in there. This surname is fairly rare, so I thought perhaps someone may have come across it in their County Monaghan research or possibly their are some descendants that still live in the area. As always, any information or help is greatly appreciated. Regards, Eric Strennen Researching families: STRENNEN, STREENAN, possibly SREENAN

David, I'm away from home and, therefore, away from my townland map. Hopefully I won't forget to look it up for you. If you don't hear from me by this time next week, nudge me. I'll be home then. I do know that Lough Shantonagh is in the northernmost part of Magheross Parish - next to Co. Cavan. My family's property had a piece of the lake's shoreline. Don't forget - remind me. jean 74743.114@compuserve.com

To find a townland in Ireland (or to get a list of townlands in a known civil parish), go to <http://www.seanruad.com> or the Irish Times website. On seanruad, be sure to check the appropriate circle for the search you want. It is not necessary to fill in all the blanks on the search page. Avoid asking for a list of townlands in a county, as it will be a very, very long list. The Irish Times search tool has the advantage, I am told, of bringing in those that most match an incorrect spelling.

Hello All, Does anyone know which townland Lurgahamla is in? I believe that it is near or in Shantonagh, not far from Castleblayney, but have never been able to find it on a map. Best wishes, David O'Daly. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

If your Faulkners were Protestants, you can find the records of the two marriages you mentioned, fairly easily. At you local FHC, rent the Index to Marriages for Ireland for the years you want. Once you have the index, find the names and it will give you the registry office where the marriage was recorded, and the volume and page number of the record. Now send for the films with the actual records. You will get names of fathers of both spouses and their occupations, the ages and occupations of the spouses, and their residence (usually townland and parish), and location & kind of service for the wedding. For date of immigration, I would check the 1900 census if they were still alive then, as this census gives the year of arrival. I imagine California censuses might also yield this info, but I'm not familiar with the questions on CA censuses. Good luck, Joan RClouse2@aol.com wrote: > I am researching the FAULKNER family for a friend of mine and need some > assistance. > > I don't know the names of the parents, but I do know there were 8 sons and 1 > dau in this family - and the only ones I have information on are: > > Thomas Faulkner b. 15 May 1826, Mt. Carmel, County Monaghan > George Faulkner ........ > Eliza Faulkner b. 16 Feb 1842, County Monaghan. She mar. James HEGAN who was > b. 4 Jun 1848, Tattybrack, County Monaghan (and they probably married in the > county before emigrating). > And the youngest child, Charles Faulkner, b. 5 Dec 1844, Castle Blaney, > County Monaghan. > > I have a marriage notice from the Sacramento, California newspaper which > says, " In Dublin, Ireland, March 10th (1864), George Faulkner of Oroville > (California), (married) to Catherine Sarah JOHNSTON of Millmore House, County > Monaghan, Ireland." Since "my" Faulkners were, indeed, in Oroville, Butte > Co., CA during this time, I'm fairly confident this is "my" George. > > I'm looking for the names of the parents, the names of the other children, > dates of emigration (before 1864), and any other information available. I'm > particularly curious why George came back to Ireland to marry - (I don't > imagine the parents came as the father was "a well-to-do" farmer in the > county - so George probably stayed with them on this visit.) > > Any assistance provided would be most appreciated. > > Ralph Clouse, Sacramento > > > > ==== IRL-MONAGHAN Mailing List ==== > ©

I am researching the FAULKNER family for a friend of mine and need some assistance. I don't know the names of the parents, but I do know there were 8 sons and 1 dau in this family - and the only ones I have information on are: Thomas Faulkner b. 15 May 1826, Mt. Carmel, County Monaghan George Faulkner ........ Eliza Faulkner b. 16 Feb 1842, County Monaghan. She mar. James HEGAN who was b. 4 Jun 1848, Tattybrack, County Monaghan (and they probably married in the county before emigrating). And the youngest child, Charles Faulkner, b. 5 Dec 1844, Castle Blaney, County Monaghan. I have a marriage notice from the Sacramento, California newspaper which says, " In Dublin, Ireland, March 10th (1864), George Faulkner of Oroville (California), (married) to Catherine Sarah JOHNSTON of Millmore House, County Monaghan, Ireland." Since "my" Faulkners were, indeed, in Oroville, Butte Co., CA during this time, I'm fairly confident this is "my" George. I'm looking for the names of the parents, the names of the other children, dates of emigration (before 1864), and any other information available. I'm particularly curious why George came back to Ireland to marry - (I don't imagine the parents came as the father was "a well-to-do" farmer in the county - so George probably stayed with them on this visit.) Any assistance provided would be most appreciated. Ralph Clouse, Sacramento

Dear Listers, I am sending this to both the Monaghan list and the Flack list as it will be of interest to both. Thanks to David O'Daly, I found the Clogher Historical Society site in Monaghan. Their page gave information on Rev. Thomas Clark, a Seceder Presbyterian minister who left Ireland for New York about 1764, taking about 300 people with him. Some of the FLACKs were in this group. So, those of you who have Flacks in NY before the Revolution need to check this out. My Flacks must have stayed in Ireland until later. William I (orJ) Flack was naturalized in Essex County NY. This paper said he was from County Cavan, but his son Hugh Wellington Flack said he was from Ballybay, County Monaghan. Interesting. Marie Forehan

HANTHORN.... My Kingdom for a HANTHORN... Does anyone recognize that surname as a Monaghan name ? Any suggestions on how to find out. Thanks..

Dear Robert, You can also get some information from microfilm copies of the churches' own records of baptisms etc. once you know which area they are from. I believe these are available from the Family History Centres of the LatterDay Saints Churches. Best wishes & good luck from David O'Daly. >From: Joan Hill <maple@neca.com> >Reply-To: maple@neca.com >To: IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [MONAGHAN] James Drum >Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 05:49:07 -0800 > >Dear Robert,, > Since you have exact birth dates and they are all for 1865 or later, >you >can get the actual birth record by: >1) searching the Index to Births for the appropriate year which you can >rent >from your FHC >2) the index will give you the name of the registry office, the volume, and >the >page. You then need to go back to the FHC catalog and order the film needed >for >each record. >3) an alternative to renting the film is to send a photocopy order in to >Salt >Lake and they will sent you photocopies of the requested record. The order >for >for photocopying is: #31768 > >Joan > >robert drumm wrote: > > > 2. James DRUM - International Genealogical Index/BI > > Gender: M Birth: 15 Feb 1865 0095, Florence Court, > > Fermanagh, > > Ireland > > > > 3. James DRUM - International Genealogical Index/BI > > Gender: M Birth: 5 Apr 1865 0071, Enniskillen, >Fermanagh, > > Ireland > > > > 4. James DRUM - International Genealogical Index/BI > > Gender: M Birth: 2 May 1865 0082, Florence Court, > > Fermanagh, > > Ireland > > > > 5. James DRUM - International Genealogical Index/BI > > Gender: M Birth: 31 Mar 1866 0194, Drum, Monaghan, >Ireland > > > > 6. James DRUM - International Genealogical Index/BI > > Gender: M Birth: 25 Dec 1866 0243, Derrylin, >Fermanagh, > > Ireland > > > > 7. James DRUM - International Genealogical Index/BI > > Gender: M Birth: 19 Feb 1867 0190, Drum, Monaghan, >Ireland > > > > 8. James DRUM - International Genealogical Index/BI > > Gender: M Birth: 19 Mar 1867 0054, Ballyconnell, >Cavan, > > > > Looking for information on any of the above. > > Can anyone help me? > > > > Robert. > > > > ==== IRL-MONAGHAN Mailing List ==== > > © > > >==== IRL-MONAGHAN Mailing List ==== >© > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Dear Robert,, Since you have exact birth dates and they are all for 1865 or later, you can get the actual birth record by: 1) searching the Index to Births for the appropriate year which you can rent from your FHC 2) the index will give you the name of the registry office, the volume, and the page. You then need to go back to the FHC catalog and order the film needed for each record. 3) an alternative to renting the film is to send a photocopy order in to Salt Lake and they will sent you photocopies of the requested record. The order for for photocopying is: #31768 Joan robert drumm wrote: > 2. James DRUM - International Genealogical Index/BI > Gender: M Birth: 15 Feb 1865 0095, Florence Court, > Fermanagh, > Ireland > > 3. James DRUM - International Genealogical Index/BI > Gender: M Birth: 5 Apr 1865 0071, Enniskillen, Fermanagh, > Ireland > > 4. James DRUM - International Genealogical Index/BI > Gender: M Birth: 2 May 1865 0082, Florence Court, > Fermanagh, > Ireland > > 5. James DRUM - International Genealogical Index/BI > Gender: M Birth: 31 Mar 1866 0194, Drum, Monaghan, Ireland > > 6. James DRUM - International Genealogical Index/BI > Gender: M Birth: 25 Dec 1866 0243, Derrylin, Fermanagh, > Ireland > > 7. James DRUM - International Genealogical Index/BI > Gender: M Birth: 19 Feb 1867 0190, Drum, Monaghan, Ireland > > 8. James DRUM - International Genealogical Index/BI > Gender: M Birth: 19 Mar 1867 0054, Ballyconnell, Cavan, > > Looking for information on any of the above. > Can anyone help me? > > Robert. > > ==== IRL-MONAGHAN Mailing List ==== > ©

2. James DRUM - International Genealogical Index/BI Gender: M Birth: 15 Feb 1865 0095, Florence Court, Fermanagh, Ireland 3. James DRUM - International Genealogical Index/BI Gender: M Birth: 5 Apr 1865 0071, Enniskillen, Fermanagh, Ireland 4. James DRUM - International Genealogical Index/BI Gender: M Birth: 2 May 1865 0082, Florence Court, Fermanagh, Ireland 5. James DRUM - International Genealogical Index/BI Gender: M Birth: 31 Mar 1866 0194, Drum, Monaghan, Ireland 6. James DRUM - International Genealogical Index/BI Gender: M Birth: 25 Dec 1866 0243, Derrylin, Fermanagh, Ireland 7. James DRUM - International Genealogical Index/BI Gender: M Birth: 19 Feb 1867 0190, Drum, Monaghan, Ireland 8. James DRUM - International Genealogical Index/BI Gender: M Birth: 19 Mar 1867 0054, Ballyconnell, Cavan, Looking for information on any of the above. Can anyone help me? Robert.

Hi PJ, Sorry I have been so long answering your helpful message. I found the site about Mullan you recommended very interesting. I wonder if there are any other people on the list with connections to McKENNA families in that area, or relations other than McKennas who lived there. How can anyone sort out who belongs to whom, when there are so many families of the same name in a small area? Anyone with any clues? Best of luck with your research, Therese.

Looking for decendants of John McCullins and Margaret Norris. They had a son William McCullins born 18th Oct. 1865 in Co. Monaghan. There was also a son Edward, born 1864/65, presumably in Monaghan as well. My first contact with Edward was when he married an Irish girl, Annie Schoales in the Kent Road United Presbyterian Church, Glasgow, Scotland on 13th Feb, 1895 with his age being recorded as 30. Both parents were deceased at that time. HOWEVER, the marriage certificate shows him as McCULLIM, an error by the registrar no doubt. The McCullim name carries on through subsequent generations to this day. Any leads at all would be greatly appreciated. John W. Florida. USA

Thanks David for forwarding that website. It will be a big help. Joan David O'Daly wrote: > This useful society and informative magazine has much useful information on > cemetaries, biography, obituaries and so on for the Monaghan area, although > it is primarily a historical society - its website now lists the contents of > each issue of the magazine back to the 1950's, and may be of interest to > some list members. > > The site is at:- > http://homepage.eircom.net/~chs/clogher_historical_society.htm > > Best wishes, > David O'Daly. > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ==== IRL-MONAGHAN Mailing List ==== > ©

Thanks David,exellent site. Robert. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David O'Daly" <davidodaly@hotmail.com> To: <IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 4:37 PM Subject: [MONAGHAN] Clogher Historical Society and Clogher Record publication > This useful society and informative magazine has much useful information on > cemetaries, biography, obituaries and so on for the Monaghan area, although > it is primarily a historical society - its website now lists the contents of > each issue of the magazine back to the 1950's, and may be of interest to > some list members. > > The site is at:- > http://homepage.eircom.net/~chs/clogher_historical_society.htm > > Best wishes, > David O'Daly. > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > ==== IRL-MONAGHAN Mailing List ==== > © > >

This useful society and informative magazine has much useful information on cemetaries, biography, obituaries and so on for the Monaghan area, although it is primarily a historical society - its website now lists the contents of each issue of the magazine back to the 1950's, and may be of interest to some list members. The site is at:- http://homepage.eircom.net/~chs/clogher_historical_society.htm Best wishes, David O'Daly. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com