Don.... Just wanted to express my thanks for the Monaghan map address. Quite nice to see the place "close up." Ralph Clouse, Sacramento

Hi Gary, My 3 grgrandfather was Peter McNeany who came from Glaslough, in Co Monaghan. I do not have any documentation of that fact.He was in Waukegan, Lake Co, Illinois about 1843. Your query causes me to wonder if maybe he was in New York for a time before he came to Illinois. I have joined the McNaney list to see if I can get some leads. I am willing to share information with you. Mary Kay in Wisconsin

In a message dated 6/26/00 1:32:03 PM PST, Dick.McCoach@McCoach.com writes: > > Castleblayney is a fairly large town in Co MONAGHAN > Thank you for your help. I'm not at all surprised that it didn't turn out to be Castle Blayney...:) Ralph Clouse, Sacramento

------------Forwarded Message Follows------------ This message is being forwarded to the mailing list by the List Manager for the subscriber listed below, because the mailing list was temporarily off line when the message was received. © MM --------------------------------------------------------- -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [MONAGHAN] Names of Places in the County? Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:14:40 -0700 From: "David O'Daly" <davidodaly@hotmail.com> To: IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com Castleblayney is a fairly large town in Co MONAGHAN aLL the best david o'daly >From: RClouse2@aol.com >Reply-To: IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com >To: IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [MONAGHAN] Names of Places in the County? >Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 14:17:31 EDT > >I just discovered (that is, I had misplaced my original notes and just >uncovered them...:) the following bits of information for which I'd like >bit >of clarification: > >of Mt. Carmel - of Tattybrack - of Millmore House - of Castle Blaney - all >in >County Monaghan. > >Could someone please tell me if these are towns, cities, places, buildings >.... whatever. > >Thank you for your assistance. > >Ralph Clouse, Sacramento

------------Forwarded Message Follows------------ This message is being forwarded to the mailing list by the List Manager for the subscriber listed below, because the mailing list was temporarily off line when the message was received. © MM --------------------------------------------------------- -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [MONAGHAN] Names of Places in the County? Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 18:11:03 -0700 From: "Don Rose" <darose@yosemite.net> To: <IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com> http://www.local.ie/general/map/monaghan.shtml > I just discovered (that is, I had misplaced my original notes and just > uncovered them...:) the following bits of information for which I'd like bit > of clarification: > > of Mt. Carmel - of Tattybrack - of Millmore House - of Castle Blaney - all in > County Monaghan. > > Could someone please tell me if these are towns, cities, places, buildings > .... whatever. > > Thank you for your assistance. > > Ralph Clouse, Sacramento > > >

We have started a mail list for this surname. I'm interested in hearing from all researchers.

Roc1030... Thank you for your response and for the info. Ralph Clouse, Sacramento

Castleblayney is a town.

I just discovered (that is, I had misplaced my original notes and just uncovered them...:) the following bits of information for which I'd like bit of clarification: of Mt. Carmel - of Tattybrack - of Millmore House - of Castle Blaney - all in County Monaghan. Could someone please tell me if these are towns, cities, places, buildings .... whatever. Thank you for your assistance. Ralph Clouse, Sacramento

List: I found a notice in the local Sacramento, California newspaper, for the following marriage: In Dublin, Ireland, March 10, 1864, George FAULKNER of Oroville, California to Catherine Sarah JOHNSON, of Millmore House, county of Monaghan, Ireland (the FAULKNERs were also of county Monaghan before emigrating to the US; the parents and probably some siblings stayed behind). Is anyone researching FAULKNER or JOHNSON lines in county Monaghan? If so, I would appreciate any assistance you can offer. Can anyone tell me which church/parish would be the most likely to have the records of this marriage? Thank you for your help. Ralph Clouse, Sacramento

I am looking for information on the McNaney (McEnaney, McNeney, McEneany) name out of Clones Town. My Great Great grandfather, Patrick McEnaney perportedly came from Clones. He settled in Elmira New York with his wife Abigail around the year 1850. He had a number of children, including my great grandfather Edward Patrick, who was the father of my Grandfather Henry and he, the father of my father Edward Patrick again. If anyone has any information, I am writing a history of the Irish emigration to upstate New York. Gary McNaney

OK Georgia, glad to help. Peter, the older of the two Robbos, at Bairnsdale, capital of the Victorian Riviera

Dear Peter, I've printed out your answer to my McCoy query and will not forget to let you know if I find out anything else about this family. I found your info on Catherine McCoy intirguing. Georgia

Georgina wrote: > I have an Alexander McCoy in Monaghan. He was the father of Robert McCoy > > who was born in County Monaghan. Alexander married Mary Oliver. Robert was > born in 1833. Alexander was a banker. Robert became a school teacher. He > was headmaster of a school in Australia. I believe the family were Presbyterian. > I received the following information from a look-up in Griffith's Valuation: > Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1848-1864 > Mc Coy, Alexander County : Monaghan > Parish : Ballybay > Location : Clogher Contd Among my researches I have traced my brother-in-law's line back to Moses CHERRY born c. 1775 at Ballybay. He was the son of John CHERRY and Catherine Mc COY. So far I have not been able to find any information on the Mc COY line other than this one small fact. As Moses and his family also migrated to Australia (Benalla, Victoria) - date uncertain but probably in the late 1830/early 1840s - there is a possibility of a connection to Alexander and Robert Mc COY. It would be nice to find out if Catherine and Alexander Mc COY were related and also to discover at what school/s Robert taught. Peter, the older of the two Robbos, at Bairnsdale, capital of the Victorian Riviera

I lost the original listing but will post this in hopes that it may help. In the book At the Ford of the Birches by James H and Peadar Murnane there is a chapter on Presbyterian churches including First and Second Ballybay, Derryvalley, Cahans, and Creeve. a quick check in the persons listing does not include McCoy s -

To any on the List who are interested, you can contact the author of the book "Full Circle" by going to the site of the "Cahans Project" at: http://homepage.tinet.ie/~denesbitt/menu.html Click on 'contact' and send a request for information on purchasing the book. The author is David Nesbitt. Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: Fred Marshall <fmarshall@sympatico.ca> To: <IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [MONAGHAN] Alexander McCoy Hi Patricia i am interested in the book Full Circle and have found about 200 listed with that name in the title. Have you any idea who the publishing house or the author is? Thanks fred. -- We are trying to locate the Ancestors or siblings of James Marshall who was born in 1821 in Ballybay Co. Monaghan His Canadian Obituary shows Ballybay as place of birth. ==== IRL-MONAGHAN Mailing List ==== © MM

Hi Fred, You might try searching in the LDS Family History Library Catalog which is on their on-line site: familysearch.org I know that I have seen Ballybay Presbyterian records on microfilm from LDS in the past. There are 3 or 4 Presbyterian Meetinghouses that fall under the Ballybay name at one time or another. It's a bit tricky to get them all straight. I know of: Ballybay; Derryvalley [Ballybay] amd Cahans [Ballybay]. One of the Meetinghouse records I saw on microfilm had a list of family groups which was quite wonderful. Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: Fred Marshall <fmarshall@sympatico.ca> To: <IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [MONAGHAN] Alexander McCoy and Ballybay Parish Thank you for sharing the Ballybay Presbyterian story. -- We are also trying to locate the Ancestors or siblings of James Marshall who was born in 1821 in Ballybay ( townland or village) Co. Monaghan Ireland and who with his brother John came to Canada in or before 1845. James settled in Manvers Township (in then Durham County, Upper Canada ) now Victoria County, Ontario . They reportedly landed at Port Hope and came North. John stopped in the Bewdley area and was not heard of again. Any suggestions or help would be appreciated. All the information that I have been able to capture is included on our site. www3.sympatico.ca/fmarshall ==== IRL-MONAGHAN Mailing List ==== If you'd like to read all previous messages that have been sent to this list, go to the archives of the list that are located at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/IRL-MONAGHAN-L/ and http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=irl-monaghan and: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Ireland/Monagahan and: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Ireland/General © MM

Hi Patricia i am interested in the book Full Circle and have found about 200 listed with that name in the title. Have you any idea who the publishing house or the author is? Thanks fred. -- We are trying to locate the Ancestors or siblings of James Marshall who was born in 1821 in Ballybay Co. Monaghan His Canadian Obituary shows Ballybay as place of birth.

Thank you for sharing the Ballybay Presbyterian story. -- We are also trying to locate the Ancestors or siblings of James Marshall who was born in 1821 in Ballybay ( townland or village) Co. Monaghan Ireland and who with his brother John came to Canada in or before 1845. James settled in Manvers Township (in then Durham County, Upper Canada ) now Victoria County, Ontario . They reportedly landed at Port Hope and came North. John stopped in the Bewdley area and was not heard of again. Any suggestions or help would be appreciated. All the information that I have been able to capture is included on our site. www3.sympatico.ca/fmarshall

Dear Georgia, Now that you have possibly found "your" Alexander McCoy, you can move from the Index to the actual valuation (available at your local FHC). Griffith's was a valuation (assessment) made in order to levy taxes. The actual valuation describes the holdings - acreage, buildings, etc. and puts a value on them. It will give you an idea of the relative wealth or poverty of your ancestor. You will also find out who owned the land occupied by Alexander (most folks were tenants) Then you will someday be able to look into the estate records of that landlord if you are lucky. You will also be able to find out who Alexander's neighbors were. It would not be surprising to find some Olivers nearby. Better yet, go to your FHC and rent the film of Ballybay Parish's Tithe Applotment Books. This is a similar valuation done in the 1820's. You are more likely to find more McCoy's then, as many may have emigrated by the time of Griffiths. A last thought - you don't say when Robert left Ireland. If he was there long enough to have married, you might want to check the Index to Irish Marriages which begins in 1845 for Protestants. The marriage record would confirm that you have the right one as it gives ages, townlands, fathers' name and occupation, type of service (also church or place of marriage - would point you to the right church records) Or if he married in Australia, a similar record there would probably contain the same info. If you aren't familiar with the LDS holdings, visit their website with its online catalog. <http://www.familysearch.org/Search/searchcatalog.asp> Good luck, Joan GLS1943@aol.com wrote: > I have an Alexander McCoy in Monaghan. He was the father of Robert McCoy who > was born in County Monaghan. Alexander married Mary Oliver. Robert was born > in 1833. Alexander was a banker. Robert became a school teacher. He was > headmaster of a school in Australia. I believe the family were Presbyterian. > > I received the following information from a look-up in Griffith's Valuation: > > Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1848-1864 > > Mc Coy, Alexander County : Monaghan > Parish : Ballybay > Location : Clogher Contd > > That's the only information I have been able to gather. I haven't a clue as > to what the Griffith's Valuation entry means, nor any idea with how to use > this info to gain more. > > I haven't any idea at all as to how to proceed with trying to find this > family. Is there anyone who can offer ideas...leads...or suggestions? > > Heaven knows, I would be extremely grateful. > > Georgia Whitson > Philadelphia, PA > USA > > ==== IRL-MONAGHAN Mailing List ==== > The preferred method of responding to messages sent to > the mailing list is to send your answer or response back > to the mailing list. The obvious benefit of responding > back thru the list is that someone else may be looking > for the same information and just hasn't asked the question > yet. © MM