Hello Krisha. I too am looking for folk from Ballybay, Co. Monaghan in the time span just prior to 1845. James and John Marshall arrived in Upper Canada and James took up land in 1845 in Manvers Township, Durham County. I wonder if they appear in your documents. Many thanks Fred

None of mine, they are still living under that bush! Thanks for posting though I know you'll make someone happy! Evelyn in Oceanside, San Diego County, California. Krisha Banigan wrote: > If you want more information on the following names you can access this information at PRONI or in a back copy of the Clogher Record. I will do short lookups but be aware that more information exists and I m not a professional! > Sorry, these names are in the order they appear in the essay. > > Trench,Moynagh,Patsy McDermott, Norman Steele, John Bashford, Joshua Warren, George Morant, Arthur Rogers, Francis Segreff, Hugh Ward, James McCannon, Francis Murray, William George Smith, Thomas Elliott, Bryan McKittrick, Laurence Finn, Arthur Holland, Francis Magee, Miles and Margaret Martin, John Marron, Oliver McMahon, Francis McCabe, Peter Ward, Pat Fox, Pimms, James Ward, Boylan,Mary,Brannon, Byrne, Callen, Callaghan, Cassidy, Clarke, Clinton,{ Conlon-James/24/Mary 23/Pat 4 mnths/and Miles Nolan 18/Alts /Granted 6lb15(+1lb2-6),emigrant 1844 } Connolly, Connor, Culleton, Cunningham, Dailey, Finegan, Finnegan, Finlay, Floody, Ford, Gartland, Garvey, Goodman, Greenan, Hanlon, Heaskin, Keenan, Kierans, King, Loughran, Lynch, Marron, Martin, Marty, Martyn, McArdle, McBride, McCabe, McCahuy, McCluskey, McConnon, McEnally, McMahon, McNally, McQuillan, Meehan, Monaghan, Montague, Muckian, Mulholland, Murray, Nelson, Nolan, Reaburne, Shearon, Shiels, Smith, Stephens, Surriage, ! > Wall, Walsh, Ward, Woods, Connolly, Duffy, Hanratty, Keelan, McKittrick, Mohan, Ruddy, Brannon, Corrigan, Cullaton, Freeman, Garvey, Kearny, Keenan, Maee, Marron, McBride, McConnan, McDonald, McGarvey, {McGeough,Mich 40/Rose 32/Mary 14/Bryan 9/Mgt 6/Rose 3/Thos 1/Crumlin/Granted 11lb17-6} McKenna, Reaburne, Rush, Duffey, Corrigan, Gallogly, Byrne, Callen, Cassidy, Clarke, Connor, Donaghoe, Duffy, Farrelly, Halfpenny, Heaskin, Kelly, Lamb, Larkin, Marron, Martin, McCluskey, McMahon, McQuillan, Mee, Monaghan, Murray, Reilly, Shaffrey, Ward, Brannikan, Byrne, Callan, Clarke, {Conlan-Mary 21/Jas 19/thos 17/jn15/Fras13/ssarah10/Pat (no age)/Lisserrill/15lb/food and passage to Liverpool}, Connolly, Connor, Corrigan, Costello, Dailey, Finnegan, Finnigan, Fox, Goodman, Irwin, Kelaghan, Kerr, Markey, Marron, Martin, McArdle, McBride, McCabe, McCahey, McCall, McCluskey, McEnally, McEneney, McGrath, McKenna, Murtha, Smith, Finegan, Callum, Carolan, Carroll, Daily, Dogherty, Hamilton, H! > and, Kennedy, {Larkin, Thos 40/Annie35/Hugh12/Cath10/Mary8/Sreenty/12lb10s(21Dec)}, Magee, McCaffrey, McDaniell, McEntee, Boyle, Brannan, Courtney, Durnean, Gartlan, Grimes, Gulshenan, Keelan, {Larkin,Mathew 30/Rose 30/Ummerafree/6lb10s:'gone to New Orleans"(12May,1849)}, Martin, McNamurry, Neill, O'Brien, Rafferty, Rush, McNamorig, Shearon, Sheerin, Bishop, McConnon, Bready, Freeman, Hanlon, Holland, kelly, King, Short, Kerr, {Larkin, Anne 20/Michael 18/Mary 20/Sreenty (or Corrinenty?)/4lb}, Markey, McConnon, McGee, McGroder, McKeogan, Weldon, Costello, Devlin, Murtha, Rogers, Segreff, Wall, Ward, Coffey, Winning, Booth, fealy, Ginnity, Pilsworth, Lane, McNamory, McNamuragh, Mohan, Nelson, Smyth, Lundy, McCluskey, Mathews, Dancer, Daly, Hunter, Brady, Byrnes, Cummiskey, McCaul, Finn, Fiseby, Flinn, Hollan, Commiskey, Lynch, McEvoy, Merryman, Power, Rodgers, Tomalty, Loughran, Marmion, Jackson, Feagh, Muckian, McGorisk, Richards, McCahey, Dawson, Pim, Rork, Denison, Gallogly! > , Walker, White, Muldoon, McCaffrey, McEntee, Linnam, Maguire, Farnan, Kearney, Luman, Carvill, Bartlets, Thomson, McNally, McEnrue, Costeloe, Swanzy, Hunter, Henry, Mitchell, Jones, Bartley, Meares, Woods, Carmen, Richardson, Burns, Savage, Gormley, > > This is a surname index for "Assisted Emigration from the Shirley Estate 1843-54" by Patrick J. Duffy as appeared in the Clogher Record, date unknown. (abt 1989or later) > > This essay states that Steamers from Dundalk and Newry carried emigrants to Liverpool where ships were leaving for Australia, New York, Boston, NewOrleans, and Quebec. > Krisha > > ==== IRL-MONAGHAN Mailing List ==== > 1-Send your replies back to the list--you may be helping someone else with the information.

Krisha, Thanks for taking the time (and I bet it was considerable!) to type all those names for us!!! Don't think it isn't appreciated! Would you mind checking for FORD, which appeared in your list? THANKS a million! Lynda from Minnesota

If you want more information on the following names you can access this information at PRONI or in a back copy of the Clogher Record. I will do short lookups but be aware that more information exists and I m not a professional! Sorry, these names are in the order they appear in the essay. Trench,Moynagh,Patsy McDermott, Norman Steele, John Bashford, Joshua Warren, George Morant, Arthur Rogers, Francis Segreff, Hugh Ward, James McCannon, Francis Murray, William George Smith, Thomas Elliott, Bryan McKittrick, Laurence Finn, Arthur Holland, Francis Magee, Miles and Margaret Martin, John Marron, Oliver McMahon, Francis McCabe, Peter Ward, Pat Fox, Pimms, James Ward, Boylan,Mary,Brannon, Byrne, Callen, Callaghan, Cassidy, Clarke, Clinton,{ Conlon-James/24/Mary 23/Pat 4 mnths/and Miles Nolan 18/Alts /Granted 6lb15(+1lb2-6),emigrant 1844 } Connolly, Connor, Culleton, Cunningham, Dailey, Finegan, Finnegan, Finlay, Floody, Ford, Gartland, Garvey, Goodman, Greenan, Hanlon, Heaskin, Keenan, Kierans, King, Loughran, Lynch, Marron, Martin, Marty, Martyn, McArdle, McBride, McCabe, McCahuy, McCluskey, McConnon, McEnally, McMahon, McNally, McQuillan, Meehan, Monaghan, Montague, Muckian, Mulholland, Murray, Nelson, Nolan, Reaburne, Shearon, Shiels, Smith, Stephens, Surriage, Wall, Walsh, Ward, Woods, Connolly, Duffy, Hanratty, Keelan, McKittrick, Mohan, Ruddy, Brannon, Corrigan, Cullaton, Freeman, Garvey, Kearny, Keenan, Maee, Marron, McBride, McConnan, McDonald, McGarvey, {McGeough,Mich 40/Rose 32/Mary 14/Bryan 9/Mgt 6/Rose 3/Thos 1/Crumlin/Granted 11lb17-6} McKenna, Reaburne, Rush, Duffey, Corrigan, Gallogly, Byrne, Callen, Cassidy, Clarke, Connor, Donaghoe, Duffy, Farrelly, Halfpenny, Heaskin, Kelly, Lamb, Larkin, Marron, Martin, McCluskey, McMahon, McQuillan, Mee, Monaghan, Murray, Reilly, Shaffrey, Ward, Brannikan, Byrne, Callan, Clarke, {Conlan-Mary 21/Jas 19/thos 17/jn15/Fras13/ssarah10/Pat (no age)/Lisserrill/15lb/food and passage to Liverpool}, Connolly, Connor, Corrigan, Costello, Dailey, Finnegan, Finnigan, Fox, Goodman, Irwin, Kelaghan, Kerr, Markey, Marron, Martin, McArdle, McBride, McCabe, McCahey, McCall, McCluskey, McEnally, McEneney, McGrath, McKenna, Murtha, Smith, Finegan, Callum, Carolan, Carroll, Daily, Dogherty, Hamilton, Hand, Kennedy, {Larkin, Thos 40/Annie35/Hugh12/Cath10/Mary8/Sreenty/12lb10s(21Dec)}, Magee, McCaffrey, McDaniell, McEntee, Boyle, Brannan, Courtney, Durnean, Gartlan, Grimes, Gulshenan, Keelan, {Larkin,Mathew 30/Rose 30/Ummerafree/6lb10s:'gone to New Orleans"(12May,1849)}, Martin, McNamurry, Neill, O'Brien, Rafferty, Rush, McNamorig, Shearon, Sheerin, Bishop, McConnon, Bready, Freeman, Hanlon, Holland, kelly, King, Short, Kerr, {Larkin, Anne 20/Michael 18/Mary 20/Sreenty (or Corrinenty?)/4lb}, Markey, McConnon, McGee, McGroder, McKeogan, Weldon, Costello, Devlin, Murtha, Rogers, Segreff, Wall, Ward, Coffey, Winning, Booth, fealy, Ginnity, Pilsworth, Lane, McNamory, McNamuragh, Mohan, Nelson, Smyth, Lundy, McCluskey, Mathews, Dancer, Daly, Hunter, Brady, Byrnes, Cummiskey, McCaul, Finn, Fiseby, Flinn, Hollan, Commiskey, Lynch, McEvoy, Merryman, Power, Rodgers, Tomalty, Loughran, Marmion, Jackson, Feagh, Muckian, McGorisk, Richards, McCahey, Dawson, Pim, Rork, Denison, Gallogly, Walker, White, Muldoon, McCaffrey, McEntee, Linnam, Maguire, Farnan, Kearney, Luman, Carvill, Bartlets, Thomson, McNally, McEnrue, Costeloe, Swanzy, Hunter, Henry, Mitchell, Jones, Bartley, Meares, Woods, Carmen, Richardson, Burns, Savage, Gormley, This is a surname index for "Assisted Emigration from the Shirley Estate 1843-54" by Patrick J. Duffy as appeared in the Clogher Record, date unknown. (abt 1989or later) This essay states that Steamers from Dundalk and Newry carried emigrants to Liverpool where ships were leaving for Australia, New York, Boston, NewOrleans, and Quebec. Krisha

Krisha, Could you check your papers for John Lunney? He came to the US in that time frame. Born 1833 in Ballybay. Sam Lunney

No apologies are required--someone else may also have been looking for some of the information. Replies sent back to the list are not discouraged here--they are encouraged. Dick McCoach -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [MONAGHAN~] DUFFY RESEARCH Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 22:38:02 -0700 Resent-From: IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 15:43:27 -0700 From: Joan Mary Williams <jwilliams@standard.net.au> Reply-To: jwilliams@standard.net.au To: IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com My apology to the list for my last message - was meant to go directly to Phil - Joan Williams Killarney Victoria Australia

Krista wrote: >I am looking at a copy of the Clogher record. An essay written by Dr. >Patrick J. Duffy "Assisted Emigration from the Shirley Estate 1843-54" It's >about 60 pages long and lists names of tenants on the Shirley Estate that >were "assisted" in their emigration. Krista: are there any LARKIN or McGOUGH emigrations listed? I am looking for Thomas LARKIN & Ellen McGOUGH who emigrated prior to 1848. Thanks !! Al Rose of Pawtucket, RI

Hi I missed the original posting here and am assuming from the replies that Krisha has 'volunteered' (?) to do some lookups. If so, I would be most grateful if she could check for Moses Cherry and his wife Margaret (nee Gawley). Regards Peter, the older of the two Robbos, at Bairnsdale, capital of the Victorian Riviera

Thanks for that - feel better now - glad to help with lookups if needed. Joan Williams Killarney Victoria Australia RESEARCHING SHEEDY

Krista wrote: >I am looking at a copy of the Clogher record. An essay written by Dr. >Patrick J. Duffy "Assisted Emigration from the Shirley Estate 1843-54" It's >about 60 pages long and lists names of tenants on the Shirley Estate that >were "assisted" in their emigration. Krista, Are there any Conlin or Conlon's mentioned in the records ?? Our ancestor Owen Conlin lived on some of the Shirley land and left for America in 1847. Thanks Wayne

Hi, Jayne Ann. I've been saving your info, so next time I went to my FHC I could do a little research for you. My FHC has Griffiths Valuation, and indexes of b,m,d for Ireland. I started with marriages(on the assumption that your Listers were protestant, Catholic records don't start til 1865) and searched 1852-1862. As I had guessed, Lister was a very rare name, only 1-2 marriages per year. The name seemed to occur in only 3 areas, Monaghan, Newry and Banbridge registration areas. I took down all marriages in Monaghan county, as these are very likely related to your ancestor.. 1859 George & Mary Lister married in Monaghan district Book 8 P.225. The referencea were the same for both of them, which means either they married each other, or there was a double marriage and thus they are on the same page. 1856 Margaret Lister (or Knox) Castleblaney Book 3 P.407 The "or Knox" means she was probably a widow, and either her maiden name or married name was Lister. The Castleblaney location and the name Margaret are awfully suggestive - perhaps an aunt of your Margaret? 1857 Mary Monaghan B.8 p. 252 1861- Ann Jane Monaghan B. 8 P.233 Births: 1865 Mary Monaghan Book 18 p.278 1867 Margaret Monaghan B.13 p.278 The cluster of Listers in Monaghan District makes me wonder if perhaps that's where the Lister's were from, and that Margaret's birth was in Castleblaney because that's where her father had gone to live. Don't know whether you want to spend the money, but the parish record for the Episcopal Church in Castleblaney exists and resides a PRONI, the archives for N. Ireland. The original may still be at the parish church. Perhaps you could write there for a lookup of Margaret's birth. Even though the marriage of Margaret's parents was not found (unless he's that George) I would recommend ordering the films with the actual Lister marriage records, as they contain valuable information. Name, age, occupation, townland or the spouses, father of each, and father's occupation. Also the church or location where the marriage was performed. You ought to be able to find the film numbers for the marriage books online at <http://www.familysearch.org/Search/searchcatalog.asp> Look under Vitals or Civil Registration for Ireland. BTW, the Householders Index for Muckno Parish (where Castleblaney is), and Griffiths Valuation for Castleblany town did not show any Lister. Good luck, Joan Jayne-Ann wrote: > Greetings All; > > I've just joined and here is the scant info I have about my Irish g grandmother. > > Her name was Margaret Lister b. 25 Jan 1859 and she was from Castleboney (sp?), County Monaghan. Her father was a school teacher and family rumour has it he was from England. Margaret was the product of his second marriage. He had two sons from the first marriage (one possibly John) > > Margaret came to Scotland before 1882 with her mother, and she married in Dundee. > > I do not know her mother or father's names. > > If anyone has info on Margaret or her ancestors, or has advice on how I could proceed in my search for them, I would love to hear it. > > Thank you in advance > Jayne-Ann > > ==== IRL-MONAGHAN Mailing List ==== > If you'd like to read all previous messages that have been sent to this > list, go to the archives of the list that are located at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/IRL-MONAGHAN-L/ > and > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=irl-monaghan > and: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Ireland/Monagahan > and: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Ireland/General © MM

My apology to the list for my last message - was meant to go directly to Phil - Joan Williams Killarney Victoria Australia

Hi Phil - refs. from Books 3 and 4 - there are none in five: 1ST JULY 1854: Inf. wanted of JOHN DUFFY -age 24 - who left HALIFAX -N.S. - in 1851 - when last heard of was supposed to employed on the Canals in TROY U.S. Please contact his father who fears he may have been drowned with JAMES FITZSIMMONS in Troy in May last year - Direct to PETER DUFFY - care of BERNARD MCGEE -- HALIFAX - N.S. 12TH JAN 1856: Inf. wanted of WILLIAM CALLEN - of MULLYORE -co MONAGHAN - who came to America about 9 years ago with SYLVESTER DUFFY and DANIEL RIELLY -last hear of in PHILADELPHIA - Inf. to his sister MARY care of ST. AUGUSTINES CHURCH PHIL.pA. 5TH DEC.1866 - Inf. wanted of BRIDGET DUFFY -of parish CLONTIBRETT -co MONAGHAN - LAST heard from in OGDENSBURG N.Y. Inf. to her brother FRANCIS - DOVER - N.H. 14TH FEB. 1857 - Inf. wanted of PETER DUFFY - native of TYDAVENET -co MONAGHAN - last heard from in TOLEDO OHIO - in a brass foundry and left there Nov 1854 - Inf. top his brother JOHN - care of OWEN MCGOVERN - TEMPERANCVILLE -Pa. 3RD APRIL 1858: Inf. wanted of MICHAEL - JOHN - JAMES - WILLIAM - and MARY DUFFEY - of FARTAGHA - parish of ANMULLIN - co MONAGHAN - last heard from in CINCINNATI -OHIO. Address their cousin JAMES DUFFEY - care of OWEN MCCULLEN - PHILADELPHIA Pa. 4TH DEC. 1858; Inf. wanted of MARGARET DUFFY - a native of MULLENNATT -parish of AUGHNAMULLEN - co MONAGHAN - last heard of in PROVIDENCE about 3 years ago., Please address her brother CORMICK - RIVER POINT - PHOENIX PO, R.I. 17TH NOV 1860: Inf., wanted of BERNARD DUFFY -native of parish OLEMULLAGH- co MONAGHAN - His wife ELLEN is very anxious to hear from him - being about to remove to another state. It is feared he is dead - that he met with an accident on the BOSTON and PROVIDENCE RAILROAD some time ago. Please address ELLEN DUFFY -PROSPECT ST - PROVIDENCE R.I. There are three volumes to be read - Joan Williams

Quoting....."rosemarie benson" <irish_clones@hotmail.com> >Hi, >Is the surname Cairns Irish or Scot ?? CAIRNS: O'CAIN (carn = "a heap") anglicised Cairn, MacCairn, Cairnes. Kearin/s, Kearns, Kerin, Kieran, etc.. Descended from FINACHTACH of the O'Hart pedigree, as did CAROLAN, DONNELLAN, and FLANAGAN. All Ulster families. >From "Irish Pedigrees", by O'Hart Patrick Traynor, in California's gold-rush country. tray@jps.net

Thank you, Krisha, for the information and for checking for my great grandfather's name. Kathleen

Krisha, Please tell me the source for your immigration info. I am looking for a John, James, or George Ferguson as well as the Mayer/Maier/Meyer/Myer surname. Thank you, Mary Lou

Krisha, I wonder if Patrick McAdam appears on the immigration papers you have? Also, could you tell me what your source is and where to find it? Thank you, Kathleen

Sorry, no McAdams on my source. I am looking at a copy of the Clogher record. An essay written by Dr. Patrick J. Duffy "Assisted Emigration from the Shirley Estate 1843-54" It's about 60 pages long and lists names of tenants on the Shirley Estate that were "assisted" in their emigration. The tales are so sad to read as this was the famine years. Also included is some correspondence from the administration of the Estate showing how hundreds of families were paid to leave. The entire Shirley Estate Collection is at PRONI. It is a very large collection. My source does not include all of the possible names. Krisha ----- Original Message ----- From: <KEGatSD@aol.com> To: <IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [MONAGHAN~] Monaghan Immigration 1844-1848 > Krisha, > I wonder if Patrick McAdam appears on the immigration papers you have? Also, > could you tell me what your source is and where to find it? > Thank you, > Kathleen >

Krisha, I wonder would you check the Shirley Estate lists for James Swann circa 1788, if they include that time. He was born in Monaghan in 1761. Thanks, Anita

Anita, There are no Swanns on my list. Krisha ----- Original Message ----- From: <Anitaaust@aol.com> To: <IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [MONAGHAN~] Monaghan Immigration 1844-1848 > Krisha, I wonder would you check the Shirley Estate lists for > James Swann circa 1788, if they include that time. He was > born in Monaghan in 1761. > Thanks, Anita >