Hi Paula, My name is Robert Drumm and i'm from Belfast.I'm researching my family my g-grandfather lived in Monaghan although i don't know if he came from that area.His name was James Drum and he married a Sarah Murphy,they had at least one child called Eugene born.6/8/1895.Have you come across the surname Drum?Any information would be greatly appreciated. Regards Robert.

Hi, Could you please tell me if you have anything for RANSON or ADAMS ? Thank you , Wendy rambodog@shianet.org ----- Original Message ----- From: Paula Mcgeough <pola5@gofree.indigo.ie> To: <IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 4:29 PM Subject: [MONAGHAN~] Local History Book Muckno, Castleblayney , Co Monaghan > i have recently written a history study of the Muckno > Parish, castleblayney > in Co Monaghan > includeed are the townland names and cemetery inscriptions > from 5 > graveyards > rental lists 1861 from 52 townlands and local folklore > if interested email me > Paula McGeough > > > > ==== IRL-MONAGHAN Mailing List ==== > 3-Be very careful if you discuss an individual who is still alive-- > don't reveal that persons' last name, their address, their birthdate > or any other information about that person that would compromise > their absolute right to privacy ! > >

i have recently written a history study of the Muckno Parish, castleblayney in Co Monaghan includeed are the townland names and cemetery inscriptions from 5 graveyards rental lists 1861 from 52 townlands and local folklore if interested email me Paula McGeough

Yes, I am interested. A bit late for our family of Cranston's but still the same area. They were there in the 1700s, if my research holds true. Thanks and look forward to hearing from you. Did I ever send you what I found in the "Index of Deeds" CO Monagahn. Naturally I only copied Cranston, if you are interested I can send it to you as an attachment. Rose C in Oregon USA

Am wondering if there are any McCrory's, Moores or Rogers included in any of the cemetery records you have assembled. Thanking you in advance, Sincerely, Faith Poole Fpoole548@cs.com

You wrote: Another thanks to Sally M for the informative message about Monaghan obituaries and death records. I have FERGUSONS there and can use that information. Mary Lou I missed this information and would love a copy. Could you forward it on for me I have Monaghan ancestors too. Many thanks, Anne, Melbourne, AUS.

Another thanks to Sally M for the informative message about Monaghan obituaries and death records. I have FERGUSONS there and can use that information. Mary Lou

Greetings from Oz Researching LOUISA MOORE b...........1821 Co. Monaghan mother.........MARY ANN MONTGOMERY b........1803 Co. Monaghan mother....Elizabeth Buckley father.....................Montgomery father...........WILLIAM HENRY MOORE b.........1799 Co. Monaghan father......Arthur Moore mother....Jane Williams Any information or suggestions on where to find more information would be greatly appreciated. Kerri [Monaghan] Pateman

What a great informative posting! I too have relatives who were born in Monaghan and I wrote a number of years ago, including the International Postal "stamps" but got no answers. .It was to churches in the area but I never thought of their not knowing what in the world those little slips of paper were for! I still need to know and shall try again. Thanks so much. Evelyn in Oceanside. sardine wrote: > I returned four days ago from Co. Monaghan/Ireland. While there, I > visited the Records Office for Co. Monghan, which is located on the > grounds of St. Macartan's Hospital in Monaghan town. > > St. Macartan's Hospital is the county's "asylum," the residence for > those with psychiatric problems and those of diminished intelligence. I > do not know whether the hospital has kept old employee records, but try > writing to it. From the age of some of the buildings, it is the same > place that was referred to in 1894 as the "asylum." Always include > coupons for the postage return to you from Ireland (in the US, > International Reply Coupons at $1.05 each from any post office, send > two; elsewhere, countries which belong to the International Postal Union > -- most countries -- have similar coupons). > > To the list member who was inquiring about Monaghan obituaries, the > first step should be writing to get the civil death record for the > involved ancestor, which would tell you where in Co. Monaghan the person > died (often a townland, rather than civil parish; if more than one > townland of the same name in the county, will include civil parish). Be > sure to include the known death date (noted in the lister's inquiry as > December 1911). As stated above, it is on the St. Macartan's Hospital > grounds, and addressing it to "Registrar of Births, Marriages and > Deaths, St. Macartan's Hospital, Monaghan, Co. Monaghan, Ireland" should > do the trick -- Monaghan town is quite small. > > The cost of a photocopy of the death record (from the old book) is £1 > Irish, and if the date is really unknown (less than month and year), the > research fee is £10 per hour. Do not send US$ (or any other than Irish, > which is about $1.15 US to £1 Irish); obtain the necessary currency (£5 > is the smallest paper money), or money order or whatever (at the same > time, it wouldn't hurt to ask for, also, the person's birth record, if > they were born 1864 or after if Catholic or 1845 if Protestant; it > wouldn't cost any more than the extra £1 for the photocopy). Then, > knowing where specifically the person died and specifically when, the > researcher could contact the newspaper (probably a weekly or biweekly) > in the nearest town of any size to determine if there was an obituary or > story about the person's death if it was other than by old age or > disease. Again, include postal reply coupons, as above, if you want an > answer (and it wouldn't hurt to explain that the reply coupons will pay > for the return postage at the local post office -- the > person/newspaper/record office may not know what they are.) > > The Clogher Historical Society is one room at St. Macartan's College (a > high school, not on the hospital grounds), and has no records, other > than a few books. Brian MacDonald there is very helpful; he can be > e-mailed, address on the society's website. FYI, the Catholic cathedral > in Monaghan town also is St. Macartan Cathedral. Apparently a local > saint. > > Hope this helps, Sally M > > ==== IRL-MONAGHAN Mailing List ==== > 0-Be very careful if you discuss an individual who is still alive-- > don't reveal that persons' last name, their address, their birthdate > or any other information about that person that would compromise > their absolute right to privacy !

I returned four days ago from Co. Monaghan/Ireland. While there, I visited the Records Office for Co. Monghan, which is located on the grounds of St. Macartan's Hospital in Monaghan town. St. Macartan's Hospital is the county's "asylum," the residence for those with psychiatric problems and those of diminished intelligence. I do not know whether the hospital has kept old employee records, but try writing to it. From the age of some of the buildings, it is the same place that was referred to in 1894 as the "asylum." Always include coupons for the postage return to you from Ireland (in the US, International Reply Coupons at $1.05 each from any post office, send two; elsewhere, countries which belong to the International Postal Union -- most countries -- have similar coupons). To the list member who was inquiring about Monaghan obituaries, the first step should be writing to get the civil death record for the involved ancestor, which would tell you where in Co. Monaghan the person died (often a townland, rather than civil parish; if more than one townland of the same name in the county, will include civil parish). Be sure to include the known death date (noted in the lister's inquiry as December 1911). As stated above, it is on the St. Macartan's Hospital grounds, and addressing it to "Registrar of Births, Marriages and Deaths, St. Macartan's Hospital, Monaghan, Co. Monaghan, Ireland" should do the trick -- Monaghan town is quite small. The cost of a photocopy of the death record (from the old book) is £1 Irish, and if the date is really unknown (less than month and year), the research fee is £10 per hour. Do not send US$ (or any other than Irish, which is about $1.15 US to £1 Irish); obtain the necessary currency (£5 is the smallest paper money), or money order or whatever (at the same time, it wouldn't hurt to ask for, also, the person's birth record, if they were born 1864 or after if Catholic or 1845 if Protestant; it wouldn't cost any more than the extra £1 for the photocopy). Then, knowing where specifically the person died and specifically when, the researcher could contact the newspaper (probably a weekly or biweekly) in the nearest town of any size to determine if there was an obituary or story about the person's death if it was other than by old age or disease. Again, include postal reply coupons, as above, if you want an answer (and it wouldn't hurt to explain that the reply coupons will pay for the return postage at the local post office -- the person/newspaper/record office may not know what they are.) The Clogher Historical Society is one room at St. Macartan's College (a high school, not on the hospital grounds), and has no records, other than a few books. Brian MacDonald there is very helpful; he can be e-mailed, address on the society's website. FYI, the Catholic cathedral in Monaghan town also is St. Macartan Cathedral. Apparently a local saint. Hope this helps, Sally M

Hi, I am writing to let everyone know that I have completed listing all the parishes in each of the 32 counties in Ireland. I have also give historical details as well as uploading many pictures and maps of towns, parishes the counties of Ireland. You can find this information at the following address: http://www.geocities.com/emerald_ancestry/towns.htm Many thanks, Martin.

Hi, Wendy. Congrats on your good luck with the Google search results! Unfortunately, Protestant marriage records weren't required by the govt until 1845. The good news is that after that date, they still exist and are indexed. The same is true for births and deaths. You might want to look in the births for any of the children of this union if they were still in Ireland after 1845. You can search these records on microfilm from the LDS. Before you try to search church records (which are very incomplete for Presbyterian churches before 1840's, I'd advise you to try to find your family in the Tithe Applotment books for Co. Monaghan. If you find them, that will give you the correct parish to search which will make the search a lot easier. The bad news is that LDS does not have these church records. They are held at PRONI in Belfast. Sometimes you can write the church directly if they still hold the records. Good luck, Joan Wendy Cosper wrote: > Hi, > I am new to this list . I have been on the Ireland list and the County Down list for several months. I have been searching the surname RANSON for over a year . When I joined the Ireland list , some very helpful people gave me some information from the Tithe Applotment Books . Most of the information was in the County Down area. Well I started a year ago with nothing but my Great-grandparents names. No dates . I just a week ago hired a researcher in Ontario. He found a lot of information for me, but nothing to help me with Ireland. > I had found my great-grandparents buried in the Minden Ontario cemetery , along with 16 other Ranson's. Two of those my gg-grandparents- ROBERT RANSON and ANN ADAMS. I had searched everywhere for something about them. Robert Ranson is listed on the 1871 Ontario census as age 60 born in Ireland ! But that was it . > Now last night , I went to Google Search and typed in RANSON - IRELAND . I could not believe my eyes - Adams family history - Thomas Adams and Isabella McBride- > of County Monaghan Ireland . Their second child Ann born June 1, 1814 , County Monaghan, Ireland married ROBERT RANSON . No further information known. WOW ! > Now I am hoping SKS on this list will help ! First I would like to know I am able to say the name of the County the right way . How is Monaghan pronounced ? > Also is there anyway someone might have access to the marriage records for this area? They were Presbyterian .If Robert Ranson was 60 on the 1871 census , he would have been born around 1810. I would think they would have been married around the 1830's. > One other question , is Dublin close or in County Monaghan ? > I'm sorry this is so lengthy , but I wanted to get everything right out in front ! > Thank you , > Wendy in Michigan USA > rambodog@shianet.org > > ==== IRL-MONAGHAN Mailing List ==== > 3-Be very careful if you discuss an individual who is still alive-- > don't reveal that persons' last name, their address, their birthdate > or any other information about that person that would compromise > their absolute right to privacy !

Hi, I am new to this list . I have been on the Ireland list and the County Down list for several months. I have been searching the surname RANSON for over a year . When I joined the Ireland list , some very helpful people gave me some information from the Tithe Applotment Books . Most of the information was in the County Down area. Well I started a year ago with nothing but my Great-grandparents names. No dates . I just a week ago hired a researcher in Ontario. He found a lot of information for me, but nothing to help me with Ireland. I had found my great-grandparents buried in the Minden Ontario cemetery , along with 16 other Ranson's. Two of those my gg-grandparents- ROBERT RANSON and ANN ADAMS. I had searched everywhere for something about them. Robert Ranson is listed on the 1871 Ontario census as age 60 born in Ireland ! But that was it . Now last night , I went to Google Search and typed in RANSON - IRELAND . I could not believe my eyes - Adams family history - Thomas Adams and Isabella McBride- of County Monaghan Ireland . Their second child Ann born June 1, 1814 , County Monaghan, Ireland married ROBERT RANSON . No further information known. WOW ! Now I am hoping SKS on this list will help ! First I would like to know I am able to say the name of the County the right way . How is Monaghan pronounced ? Also is there anyway someone might have access to the marriage records for this area? They were Presbyterian .If Robert Ranson was 60 on the 1871 census , he would have been born around 1810. I would think they would have been married around the 1830's. One other question , is Dublin close or in County Monaghan ? I'm sorry this is so lengthy , but I wanted to get everything right out in front ! Thank you , Wendy in Michigan USA rambodog@shianet.org

I'm trying hard to track down my ggg-grandfather, George WRIGHT (farmer) and his wife Mary MADILL. Don't have specific location, but speculate they were from Monaghan or Antrim. They had at least one son, Anthony, born approximately 1822/23. Anthony later moved to Lanark, Scotland. Any help or incite would be greatly appreciated. Take care. Regards, Gregor J. Wright

Good evening all, Is anyone else researching the surnames MADILL and DEVLIN in Ireland? I don't have a specific location of this hard to track family, but am desperately seeking info on the following: Matthew MADILL (farmer) wife Mary DEVLIN. One known child, Ann, born approx. 1826, location unknown. Ann later married Anthony (possibly given name Andrew) WRIGHT and moved to Lanark, Scotland. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Take care. Regards, Gregor J. Wright

I have an Ordnance Survey map of Monaghan Town dated 1901. It shows the Monaghan District Lunatic Asylum just to the northeast of the town. The area seems to be marked Roosky. It's just off Glasslough Street which enters the "downtown" diamond from the north. Mill Street enters the diamond from the west. Hope this helps. Joan Hunter Essex, Ontario, Canada HUNTER/HAMILTON/BROWN - Co. Monaghan DOAK/ATWELL - Co. Tyrone ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith & Edna Rippin <keithrippin@rypin.freeserve.co.uk> To: <IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 12:11 AM Subject: [MONAGHAN~] Request Info on Monaghan Asylum > Just a few questions which I could do with some answers to: > > Does anyone out there know if Monaghan Asylum still exists & if they > would still have employee records? Or could they be lodged elsewhere > e.g. Monaghan Museum? > > Would Monaghan Ancestral Research have any records of the asylum? > > Does anyone know if the Clogher Historical Society has any information > on Monaghan Asylum. > > My grandparents John Thomas COOKE & Mary Ann WRIGHT got married at > Monaghan on 29 March 1894 and both were living and working at the > Monaghan Asylum at that time. I could do with finding any information > on them from the asylum that could give me a clue as to where they > came from! N.B. I know where they were at the time of the 1911 census > but the appropriate page is missing on the filmed records and I have > no idea where they were residing at the time of the 1901 census so if > there are asylum records these would be manner from heaven!! > > TIA > > Edna Rippin > > > ==== IRL-MONAGHAN Mailing List ==== > 3-Be very careful if you discuss an individual who is still alive-- > don't reveal that persons' last name, their address, their birthdate > or any other information about that person that would compromise > their absolute right to privacy ! > >

Hi Keith & Edna, It was interesting reading your message about Monaghan Asylum.On my grandfathers birth certificate it lists my g-grandfathers occupation as a warder in an asylum. They lived at Mill Street,Monaghan town.I would interested in any information you uncover. Regards Robert Drumm from Belfast.

Just a few questions which I could do with some answers to: Does anyone out there know if Monaghan Asylum still exists & if they would still have employee records? Or could they be lodged elsewhere e.g. Monaghan Museum? Would Monaghan Ancestral Research have any records of the asylum? Does anyone know if the Clogher Historical Society has any information on Monaghan Asylum. My grandparents John Thomas COOKE & Mary Ann WRIGHT got married at Monaghan on 29 March 1894 and both were living and working at the Monaghan Asylum at that time. I could do with finding any information on them from the asylum that could give me a clue as to where they came from! N.B. I know where they were at the time of the 1911 census but the appropriate page is missing on the filmed records and I have no idea where they were residing at the time of the 1901 census so if there are asylum records these would be manner from heaven!! TIA Edna Rippin

Roslea is about 5 miles north (an a bit east) of Clones. It's actually in Fermanagh. Perhaps the borders changed. townland: acres: county: barony: parish: PLU: province: ROSSLEA T. xx Fermanagh Clankelly Clones Clones Ulster Also in Fermanagh: Golan 78 Fermanagh Clankelly Clones Clones Ulster Derrynawilt East 147 Fermanagh Clankelly Clones Clones Ulster (4 mi W of Roslea) Derrynawilt West 194 Fermanagh Clankelly Clones Clones Ulster Clonagun 279 Fermanagh Clankelly Clones Clones Ulster (2 mi. SW of Clones) The only thing I can find close to Clarney Home is: Clahernagh 68 Fermanagh Clankelly Clones Clones Ulster feagh means a woody place: (maybe?) Feagh 82 Fermanagh Clankelly Clones Clones Ulster It's late....I'm going blind trying to read this map....I've run out of other ideas, but I suspect you see a real pattern here, eh? Time to get a Fermanagh map. Have a great trip! Joan Hunter Essex, Ontario HUNTER/HAMILTON/BROWN - Co. Monaghan (I think!) DOAK/ATWELL - Co. Tyrone ----- Original Message ----- From: Trudy Thurgood <thedove@deseretonline.com> To: <IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 9:39 AM Subject: [MONAGHAN~] Townland help needed FAST! > Hello, > I'm leaving for Ireland in 6 days. Yesterday I found my ancestors in Co. Monaghan, Clones Parish in the Tithe Applotment Books...but when my Mother came last night with the Townland Maps she'd copied at the LDS library the following townlands were not on the Clones map!! Can you help me? > Townland: > 1. Dernawilt > 2. Clarneyhome > 3. Woody Hill > 4. Big Hill > 5. Goland (there is a Gola) > 6. Clinagun > 7. Roslea > > Have they changed their names? Anyone who can help please respond ASAP! > Thank you! > Trudy > > > ==== IRL-MONAGHAN Mailing List ==== > 1-Send your replies back to the list--you may be helping someone else with the information. > >

Hello, I'm leaving for Ireland in 6 days. Yesterday I found my ancestors in Co. Monaghan, Clones Parish in the Tithe Applotment Books...but when my Mother came last night with the Townland Maps she'd copied at the LDS library the following townlands were not on the Clones map!! Can you help me? Townland: 1. Dernawilt 2. Clarneyhome 3. Woody Hill 4. Big Hill 5. Goland (there is a Gola) 6. Clinagun 7. Roslea Have they changed their names? Anyone who can help please respond ASAP! Thank you! Trudy