Hello, I would be grateful for any information on Patrick and Margaret Daly. Both buried Lisdoonan churchyard cemetery, Patrick died 1862 aged 78 and Margaret 27-11-1863 aged 69, buried by their son Charles Daly of Bocks. Patrick is in the Griffiths Survey of 1860 at Bocks Upper and the 1824 Tithe Applotment Survey. Family we believe moved into Bocks via Dunaree from Oldcastle area of Meath two generations previously. Best wishes, David. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Hello Fellow Listers I am searching for information on LAWRENCE and MARY GARVEY(neeSULLIVAN) who came over from Ireland to England sometime between 1800 &1838. I believe their occupation to be Hawkers/Tinkers. They had a son called Abraham also known as John born in Andover , Hampshire England. Unforunately this is all the information I have. TIA Ray Garvey.

My name is Nancy Praetzel. I am searching for information regarding the ancestors or descendants of Patrick McCabe and his wife, Bridget Burns McCabe who had 12 children and who lived on a small dairy farm near the Lake at Greaghlone, on the road between Shercock and Kingscourt. The Burns farm was just up the road from the McCabe farm. Also related were the Smiths who lived close by but possibly in nearby Cavan Co. My grandmother , Annie McCabe Clayton, born 1870, who immigrated to San Francisco in the 1880s with several of her brothers and sisters, and with cousin Catherine Smith, used to say that she could throw a rock from her farm to the Smith farm in Cavan. Hope to hear from you

Noel Farrell from Longford published a book/let on Monaghan town "Exploring Family Origins in Monaghan Town" in 1998. He has also included Slater's Directory 1894; the 1937 Thom's Directory, the 1911 census, a list of 1881-1934 pubs in Monaghan town, the 1943/44 Elector's list and Griffiths evaluation. Plus an 1865 Monaghan map. For those interested I think this is still available, at least it was this year in shops in Dublin. Jane

A Tale of a Funeral (extracted from Folk Tales from Western Ireland McManus, L., Journal of the Ivernian Society, Vol. VI. Oct 1913-Sept, 1914. pp. 235-) When he was a boy, he said, his father burned a kiln of lime, and put him to mind it the second night. As he sat there he saw a funeral coming down the hill, and two men carrying a coffin. They came up to the kiln, and one of them said, "Who is to carry the coffin?" And the other said, "It is Anthony O'Neill," and told him to carry the coffin. He refused, but they made him; and the weight nearly crushed him to the ground. They led him through a country he did not know, and went into a graveyard. The two men began to dig a grave, and something in the coffin struggled to get out. The men told him that if he let the thing out they would put him in the coffin. When the grave was ready they laid the coffin in it, and shovelled the earth on top. They then left the graveyard, and went to a house. There was a big room in it, and rows of tables along the walls, with big dishes of stirabout and noggins of mik. There were many men and women in the room, eating and drinking, and they asked Anthony to take some stirabout. He was going to do so, when a woman he knew, named Anne Goulding, who had died in child-birth, pinched him in the back, and he refused to eat. He got out of the house and found himself in his own quarter-land, and the kiln before him. He has seen "the people" twice, he said, and added that there were times it was easy for them to take the people they want; easy to take a woman in child-birth, and a young man when he marries.

Hello List, Just to let Jane Lyons know someone is still out here............. The school info. was very interesting. Thanks Jane. Gives us more insite into life at that time. I have taken this opportunity to re-post my surnames in the subject line of our List. Owen was born in Ireland abt.1852/54 - - possibly in County Monaghan and possibly the oldest son of Edward McAdams and Susan Lennon. Mary may have been born in Pennsylvania, USA. Her parents were Daniel McCue and Mary Sewell who were probably born in Ireland. I have pretty much given up finding any kind of record of Owen's existance in Ireland. (if you have any ideas that would help - it would be appreciated) So I would like to move on to finding some kind of record of when, where and how he came to USA. I checked for naturalization papers here in Cleveland, Ohio. None found. WHAT DO I DO NEXT??? I don't know how to proceed -what to do first, next, etc. The first record of Owen in Cleveland, Ohio was found in the 1875/76 City Directory. No marriage record found, but their first child was born in Cleveland in 1876. The family appears in the 1880 census. Owen died in 1888. No additional necrology info. Any info or guidence from the List would be appreciated. Maureen

Yeah, Jane....I'm here. Researching Joseph & Jane Hunter & family who emigrated from Co. Monaghan to Chinguacousy Twp. (Brampton), Peel Co., Ontario, Canada, before 1836; Alexander & Jane (Brown) Hamilton & family who emigrated from Co. Monaghan to Toronto Twp., Peel Co., Ontario, Canada around 1830. One of the Hamilton, daughters, Ann, married George Lyons between 1849 & 1855 in Chinguacousy Twp. Joan Hunter Essex, Ontario ----- Original Message ----- From: Jane Lyons <jlyons1@iol.ie> To: <IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 10:29 AM Subject: Anyone home? > I'm just wondering how many are on this list....... > > it's fierce quiet altogether > > Jane:-) > >

I'm just wondering how many are on this list....... it's fierce quiet altogether Jane:-)

Robert Gillander born 1801 and Jane Gillander b 1822 are listed on Griffith's as being from County Monaghan. Robert is listed as coming from Parish Monaghan or Bellanagall or Crosses. Jane from Parish Donagh, Town of Emyvale. I think they were married there, but I don't know Jane's maiden name. Their children were born in New York starting in 1854, so they came from Ireland prior to 1854. Can anyone assist me in finding out Robert and Jane's parents? Griffiths has quite a few Gillander's as living in County Monaghan during that time period. Any help and advice is most greatly appreciated. Beverly Pinehurst, NC USA paster3@juno.com Thank you!

MARRIAGE: Thomas Fitzpatrick, 27, Bachelor, School Teacher, Carn, f. James Fitzpatrick, deceased and Martha Connolly, 23, Spinster, Shopkeeper, Latnamard, Patrick Connolly, laborer. Present: Joseph Fitzpatrick and Anne Jane? Connolly. February28, 1865. BIRTHS Civil Registration James b. January 10, 1866, f.Thomas and m. Martha Connolly, farmer, Carn. Mary b. February20, 1868, same, National School Master Teacher, Carn. MARRIAGE: January 2, 1896 St. _______, Glasgow, Francis Mullen, railway surfaceman, bachleor,25, 260 Castle street, Glasgow, f. James Mullen, farm laborer(deceased), and Elizabeth Mullen, nee McLaffarty and Mary Fitzpatrick, cotton millworker, spinster, 26, 222 Castle street, Glasgow, f. Thomas Fitzpatrick, schoolmaster, and Martha Fitzpatrick,nee Connolly, witness Susan Connolly (her sister), can't read the other name. District of St. Rollox, Co Lanark. John b. July 11, 1872, same. Patrick b . 1873 Susan b. November 3, 1874, same. MARRIAGE: May 16, 1907, St. L______, Glasgow, Patrick Joseph Downie, coalminer, bachelor, 27, Kamesburgh Cottage __ddinngaton, f. Edward Downie, coalminer and Catherine Downie, nee Kinney and Susan Fitzpatrick, spinster 27, 8 Parliamontery Road, Glasgow, Thomas Fitzpatrick, Schoolmaster(retired) and Martha Fitzpatrick, nee Connolly. Witness Martha Connoly, sister. District of St. Rollox in the Burgh of Glasgow. Thomas b. July 24, 1877, same Martha b. January 6, 1880, same. Bridget b.1887 MARRIAGE: SCOTLAND: DEATH: Bridget Anne Hamilton(Widow of John Alexander Hamilton, Builder's Laborer), June 21, 1956, Glasgow, 69 years, parents deceased. M Hamilton, daughter. Griffith's Valuation I have copies of the pages for Latnamard and Carn. In Latnamard, I find the school that Thomas taught at. In Carn, there is Patrick Connolly and James Fitzpatrick, also Hugh Connolly and 3 other Fitzpatrick's, 1901 CENSUS: Thomas Fitzpatrick, Head, RC, r&w, 68, M, national teacher retired?, M, b. Monaghan. Martha Wife, RC, r&w, 50, F, M, b. " Patrick Son, RC, r&w, 28, M, farmers, S, b. " Thomas Son, RC, r&w, 24, M, farmers, S, b. " Bridget Dau., RC, r&w, 18, F, spinster, S, b. " Helena T. Fitzpatrick, dau. in law, r&w, 35, F, W, b. Co. Cork. Aeleen gr.dau., r&w, 7, F, At School, S, b. America Martha r 5, S, b. America Cathleen no 3, S, b. America Agnes no 1, S, b. America James Hamilton, gr. Son, 4, b. Scotland. I also have copied the info from the National School Payroll books for Thomas(1854-1894). Looking for any information on the people. Thank you all, Fran Luby

Quoting.............. > >Dear Monaghan Listers: >Have seen several listings recently referring to Co. Monaghan, "Northern >Ireland." It is *not* in Northern Ireland. Monaghan is in the Republic >of Ire............... =========================== Is this correct? Monaghan is in northern Ireland. Monaghan is not in Northern Ireland. Monaghan is in northern Eire. Cork is in southern Ireland. Clare is in western Ireland. Dublin is in eastern Ireland. 8-)

From: RFisherF@aol.com > Can anyone tell me where is/was? Couldn't find >it on my map. Thanks. L Fisher Closest placename I found is BALLINBROCKY in co. Donegal. Found nothing close in co. Monaghan. Patrick Traynor, in California's gold-rush country. tray@jps.net TRAYNOR'S Web Page (Irish stuff) http://members.nbci.com/pattraynor/

I hope these names will ring a bell for someone there. Among my late grandmother's things was a little box of the 2"x 4" memorial cards given to mourners at Catholic funerals. One was for my great-grandmother, Josephine Dolan Finn (d. 1927), and another for her sister, Mary Dolan (d.1937). Their parents were Thomas Dolan and Noda McNally who were from Co Monaghan and I'm quite sure they stayed there. I'd love to know what happened to the members of that family who didn't move to the US. I also found a card which reads "...in loving memory of Owen Byrne...Belgium Park, Monaghan who died 5th May 1970 Aged 70 years..." This man was the age of my grandmother and, since she never left New York in her life, I doubt Mr. Byrne was just a friend, more likely he was a relative. I'd be ever so grateful to anyone who might know if and how the Byrnes, Dolans and McNallys connect. I've had a very hard time gathering information about my mother's side of the family; no one is left. Thanks for the help. Sherry Irish

Presbyterian Sub-tenants in 1714 Abraham, Roger Allen, William Anderson, Jas. Anderson, John Anderson, Thos Anderson, Wm. beard, Ml. Blair, Alex Blakeley, Wm. Boyd, Alex Boyd, John Browne, David Barrell, Francis Clark, Wm. Clarke, Jas. Clarke, John Connor, John Cooper, Robert Cord, Jas. Currie, Cor Davidson, John Eager, Thos Eakin, Jas. Eakin, Robert Elliott, John Ffauston, John Ferguson, Andrew Fitzsimmonds, John Glass, John Hanna Alex Hanna, Jas. Herdman, john Hodge, Wm. Hogg, Jas. Hogg, Thomas Hutton, Andrew Hutton, John Hutton, William Irwin, John Jackson John Johnston, Jas. Kirkpatrick, Roger Lattymore, John Lindsay, Jas. Marchsll, Wm. Moore, John Moorehead, John Mullingan, Robert McCaye, John McClean, Hercules McCree, John McCulogh, Alex. McDoole, Jas. McMullen, Jas. Nesbit, Hugh Oakman, Robert Oakman, Thos. O Connor Gilduff Oliver, Andrew Patterson, Jas. Robinson, John Robinson, Thos. Rowan, Wm. Ruterford, Pat Smart, Wm. Smith, Jas. Stephenson, Alex Tennant, Wm. Tod, Wm. Vogan, Jas. Vogan, George Vogan, Robert Weyer, Thos. Weyley, Jas. Weyley, John Williams, Ed. Williams, Sam. Willson, Alex Willson, Hugh Willson, Jas. Willson, John Wilson, Alex. Wilson, Ed. Wilson, Jerome Wilson, John Wilson, Jas. Wilson, Thos. Woods, Wm. Workman, John Wright, Jas. Total: 89 Presbyterian Sub-tenants Church of Ireland Sub-tenants in 1714 Bond, John Caulfield, Chas. Clarke, John Dufin, Rodger Heslip, Thomas Keller, Henry Kirkpatrick, Alex. Lycester, John Lycester, Wm. Matthew, Wm. Osborne, Sam. Total: 11 Church Sub-tenants B (4) Index of sub-tenants, Religion not stated in 1714 Gray, John, sen. Gray, John, jun Oliver, Wm. Sen. Oliver, Wm. Jun. Oliver, Thomas Powell, Thos Tenison, Wm. Watson, Wm. Total: 8 subtenants religion not stated B (5) Index of Chief Tenants in 1714 Cope, Wm. Church of Ireland Dawson, Walter Church of Ireland Manson, Jack, Capt. Church of Ireland Maxwell, John Church of Ireland Tate, Alex & partners Church of Ireland Johnston, James Dissenter

A section has just been establish for County Clare on the Ireland CMC Record Project. http://www.cmcrp.net Currently, Jean Rice's 1870 property holders list is posted and searchable, although the genealogy records section does not have many current records. If you have any birth, marriage, death, or cemetery records for this county, please consider listing them here. The website had over 80,000 page views for the month of October. On October 25th, the site received a "recognition of excellence" from ancestry.com and the site was given an "Ancestry Family History Favorite Award". You can go to this link to see what they had to say. http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/news/articles/2817.asp . CMC is just a web site. The content is what received the recognition, and that is the product of those that have generously shared their work. They get the award and our gratitude. Thanks for your support Tom

Just downloaded a terrific Webpage finder. Go to Download.com for this free searcher. http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0-10001.html. Enter in the search box; webferret I entered "Donaghmoyne parish" in the Webferret searh box and clicked on EXACT PHRASE, and got a list of 21 Webpage items having that phrase in it. (Some items may be repeats of the same Webpage). I entered the townland name of "Tirnaneill" and got about 5 items. two items were a search engine at CNET which when I entered the name again, took me to a site that gave placenames and their meaning. I entered "irish chiefs" and got 217 items! I think this is a great Web page finder! Enter your townland name and you may find someone's webpage that has put a parish map online, or enter your surname and see how many dozen sites are listed. (May be way too many on that search). Patrick Traynor, in California's gold-rush country. tray@jps.net TRAYNOR'S Web Page (Irish stuff) http://members.nbci.com/pattraynor/

Hope someone has this info. Is there a phone or fax number for the center or email? My books say that the records start with 1871 for Aghabog/Killeevan. Was this area a part of another Catholic Parish before this time. Any help would be appreciated. Looking for Fitzpatrick/Connely in the area of Carn and Latnamard. Thank you all, Fran

Hi, I just wanted to let everyone on the List know that the LDS microfilm No. 0897416 for Clones Parish is for Church of Ireland records only and not Roman Catholic records. Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: <SMrcus@aol.com> To: <IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 3:38 PM Subject: [MONAGHAN~] Clones Parish Records > I rented the Clones records. They are on film 0897416, item 1. > > I took notes on all the Wallace, Wilson, Irvine, & anything that resembled > McAnally names. > Records ran from 1600's to 1870's, maybe later, but that's where I stopped. > > If anyone want me to check my notes for Wallace, Wilson, Irvine, or McAnally, > I'd be glad to try to help, but the film has been returned to Salt Lake City. > > Sue Marcus > > > ==== IRL-MONAGHAN Mailing List ==== > Try your luck if you're looking for ancestors in Pennsylvania, USA: > Subscribe to the Pennsylvania Census Lookup list: > mailto:PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=subscribe >

I would appreciate guidance in what research direction I should take next. My mother was a ROGERS. Her grandfather, Thomas ROGERS and his wife, Martha MORRISON came to America in 1846 according to the 1900 US Federal Population Census. (not always totally 100% reliable as one knows). Thomas' naturalization papers do not give any substantial information as they are from pre-1906 naturalizations, 1867 to be exact. According to notes found in my late grandfather's Bible (12th child of the above Thomas and Martha ROGERS), the family was from County Monaghan, but in addition, according to notes of my late aunt, his oldest daughter, the family was of the parish of Aughnacloy, County Tyrone. The family was conservative Presbyterian when they came to the United States, settling in Paterson, New Jersey, thus indicating that they were Scots-Irish, as my grandfather stated in his notes. According to these notes, Thomas ROGERS was born 14 Jun 1828, the son of John ROGERS and Elizabeth ALEXANDER. Martha MORRISON was born 24 Jun 1831, the daughter of James MORRISON and Jennie MCCULLOCH. The will of Thomas ROGERS does not give any further information, nor do any USA land records. According to New Jersey vital records, it would appear that Martha's parents came to the United States. Thomas' father, John ROGERS, was deceased by the time Thomas came to America but his mother was supposedly still living. If I can trust the dates given to me by my late grandfather, John ROGERS was rather old when he fathered Thomas, possibly indicating an earlier marriage. E lizabeth ALEXANDER was 33 years younger than her husband. I have corresponded a few years ago with a Heritage Center, I believe they are called,and they could not find any records of either Thomas or Martha in the parish of Aughnacloy, County Tyrone. (My late aunt additionally has that the family was of Emyvale. How she obtained this I do not know, as she is no longer living, but she usually was quite meticulous in her research.) I have procrastinated researching this line, one of my two main lines, due to the complexity of Irish research. (at least in my mind) If anyone could advise a "next direction" I would be greatly appreciative. For further information, kindly refer to my article on Thomas ROGERS and family at http://www.ristenbatt.com/genealogy/trogers.htm Thank you. Regards, Donna Ristenbatt ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ der@redrose.net Visit: ON THE TRAIL OF OUR ANCESTORS http://www.ristenbatt.com/genealogy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ships' Lists, PA and Mennonite Research Corner, Dutch Research Corner, Cemetery Lists, Rev. War Loyalists, Finding a Civil War Ancestor, Many Surnames and More!

Hi Patricia, You wrote - "If you are interested in Roman Catholic records, there is one for Clones Parish. These records start in July 1848." That's wonderful, I thought the only records started in about 1864. Could you tell me about these records and if they are on film. My ancestors left for Australia after 1848 but before 1860. Thanks, Anne, Melbourne, AUS.