I am trying to figure out which 1901 Monaghan census film to order and can't seem to figure out which one and am hoping someone out there can help me. My ancestor William Thompson, was born in Tullynageer, in county Monaghan which is in the parish of Muckno. There are 4 film numbers listed for this parish. Associated with each film number is a description such as "census nos 26/11-18,20". Can anyone tell me what these numbers relate to or how I might determine which film would contain Tullynageer? Any help on this will truly be appreciated. Regards Miriam in Winnipeg, Canada _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

AlRose509@aol.com wrote........ >A very kind soul did a look-up for me of MARTIN listings in The Flax Growers >Bounty List, 1796 for County Monaghan, Ireland. At first, I was surprised to >see so many ... 44 total spread out over the entire county. However, as I >looked further, I noticed a pattern evolving with a bias toward the southern >civil parishes. There were over 60 MARTINs in just the Donaghmoyne parish alone, in 1823 Tithe Applotment index. The barony of Farney. There are still some there today. I have a football history of Donaghmoyne parish that lists several Martins as players, with some team photos going back to about 1912. > Aside from the fact that I know little about each of the "Barony" >(including perhaps proper spelling)............ If Ann Harney's site doesn't have a map of the Monaghan baronies, I can send you one. The barony spellings in the book; "The Monaghan Story", by Livingstone are; TRUAGH, MONAGHAN, DARTREY, CREMORNE, FARNEY. I see "Trough" and "Truagh" used. I was told that one of those was completely wrong and meant something entirely out of place for a placename, but forgot which one it was. >I see that nearly half of all MARTINs in Monaghan are from the southern >Barony of Farney(?), and son Bryan's naturalization papers have him born >1799 in Carrickmacross (also in this Barony). Donaghmoyne begins just above the town of Carrickmacross. >What should I learn about Farney Barony to aid in my research? I believe the Marquis of Bath was landlord of most if not all of that parish, with Shirley owning the majority of lands in the barony. I don't know where to tell you to look for records though. There are Bath papers on the Web, but they won't be of any help to you. Patrick Traynor, in California's gold-rush country. tray@jps.net TRAYNOR'S Web Page (Irish stuff) http://members.nbci.com/pattraynor/

I pray this formatting works so you can see the 1796 geographic spread of MARTIN surname "flax growers" in county Monaghan. My Irish MARTIN family all came & settled in Boston, MA ca 1825. Aside from the fact that I know little about each of the "Barony" ( including perhaps proper spelling) and I have no indication that any of the family were "flax growers" and what that might have to do with my approach to research, the 1796 list has interesting implications for me when I consider naming traditions in Irish families and the unequal geographic spread. The earliest known ancestor in my MARTIN family was Edward; son's named: Bryan, James, Patrick, Peter, Thomas. I see that nearly half of all MARTINs in Monaghan are from the southern Barony of Farney, and son Bryan's naturalization papers have him born 1799 in Carrickmacross (also in this Barony). I also note that the ONLY instances of the given names Edward, Bryan, Peter and Thomas are of this southern Barony. In the case of the given names James and Patrick, the majority are also in the south. Of special note, family info said that son James was born Killanny parish ca 1810. Conclusions: Given the likely birth year range of the sons of Edward (est 1785-1815), at least SOME of the below are likely uncles or close relatives; Edward of Donaghmoyne parish in 1796 could be the immigrant ancestor of 1824. Am I seeing too much here? The Flax Growers Bounty List, 1796 Individuals with MARTIN surname in Civil Parishes of County Monaghan Baronies (north to south): Trough-Monaghan-Dartree-Creemore-Farney Barony Code: .................T..........M...........D..........C..........F Data Alphabetized by Given name: Civil Parish .... barony code Alexander : Donagh........T Andrew...  : Donagh .......T Andrew...  : Killeevan .............................. D Bartle......  : Magheracloone .............................................. F Bryan......  : Donaghmoyne ................................................ F *  Bryan Catherine. : Magheracloone ............................................... F Cicely....... : Magheracloone .............................................. F Edward..... : Donaghmoyne ............................................... F * Edward Eli............ : Muckno ............................................. C Francis .... : Aghnamullen ..................................... C Francis .... : Donaghmoyne................................................. F Henry ...... : Kilmore .................. M Henry ...... : Magheracloone ............................................... F Hugh........ : Magheracloone ............................................... F James....... : Aghnamullen ...................................... C.............< James James ...... : Donaghmoyne ................................................. F * James James ...... : Killanny .......................................................... F * James James ...... : Magheracloone  ............................................... F * James James ...... : Tehallan ................. M.........................................< James John......... : Aghnamullen ..................................... C John......... : Clontibret ........................................... C John......... : Drumsnat ................ M John......... : Killeevan .............................. D John......... : Magheracloone ................................................ F Joseph...... : Killeevan .............................. D Margaret.. : Muckno .............................................. C Nicholas... : Donaghmoyne ................................................. F Owen........ : Donaghmoyne ................................................. F Patrick...... : Aghabog .............................. D............................< Patrick Patrick...... : Donaghmoyne ................................................. F * Patrick Patrick...... : Magheracloone ................................................ F * Patrick Peter......... : Donaghmoyne ................................................. F * Peter Philip........ : Donaghmoyne ................................................. F Philip........ : Magheracloone ................................................ F Robert....... : Drumsnat ............... M Samuel...... : Muckno ............................................. C Terence..... : Magheracloone ................................................. F Thomas..... : Magheross ....................................................... F * Thomas Widow ??? : Tehallan ...............M William.... : Aghabog ............................. D William.... : Aghnamullen ...................................... C William.... : Ematris ............................... D William.... : Muckno .............................................. C William.... : Tullycorbet ........... M Barony Code: ...........T.............M.............D.............C..............F Total per barony ........2............ 6 ............ 6 ............ 9 ........... 21 % MARTIN total ..... 4 %.........14 %........14 %........20 %..........48 % What should I learn about Farney Barony to aid in my research? Are there any MARTIN researchers with family from Monaghan this early? Any list researchers with McCALY, McDERMOTT, McELENEY, MURRAY, McCULLOGH or TURNER from this area & time? Thanks for the patience and your thoughts. Regards, Al Rose

Sorry for the format mess in my recent message "Analysis of MARTIN in County Monaghan (1796)" I will re-send when I have a better way of getting my point across. Thanks to those who responded in spite of the garble, especially to: Christina Aubin, Jane Lyons, Michelle McGoff, David O'Daly and Rosemary Cairns. Al Rose

My apologies for sending this to the lists, but it is absolutely necessary. My computer crashed and while I know that I have a decent back up to October last year, I haven't yet worked out what I had not backed up from then. Definitely my mail, and I know I haven't seen some documents yet as I work my way through what I do still have. I did one major back up last october - since then, I've backed up erratically. I'm not sure yet what I do or don't have. It will take some time to sort that out - I know for a fact that I am missing the document re Primates of Armagh. I sent that to two people that I can remember - it's not short and it took a lot of time to create, if you still have it, I would appreciate a copy - thank you. I have no address book........I have no copies of anything I have said I would do for anyone, no copies of mails which people have sent in to me - whether I have said I would do whatever or not. I can pick up anything I have posted to lists easily, anything which has been put on web sites - but it is what I have sent people off list that I am interested in. I really would appreciate it if anyone has any copies of anything I have sent them to forward me copies of same. I may have it somewhere here - then again I may not. There is some back up re the newsletter I was supposed to publish by the end of January. It will not now be possible to put this up on a web site as soon as I had intended (end of January), however, I would most appreciate if those who had contacted me would do so again and if you are interested then in a week or two I can forward you a copy by e mail. Later on this month (hopefully - fingers crossed) the web site will appear. Thank you, Jane

Anyone researching McKENNA / PENDLETON/ McCALLEN in Emyvale, Monaghan, 1780 - 1800s. Therese, Queensland, Australia.

To VIEW properly, MAXIMIZE this note in your WINDOW at font size 10. I sent this to list earlier but accidently had Rich Text Format. Sorry. My Irish MARTIN family all came & settled in Boston, MA ca 1825. A very kind soul did a look-up for me of MARTIN listings in The Flax Growers Bounty List, 1796 for County Monaghan, Ireland. At first, I was surprised to see so many ... 44 total spread out over the entire county. However, as I looked further, I noticed a pattern evolving with a bias toward the southern civil parishes. I reformatted the info so the extent of any trend would be easier to see. Below is the result and my thoughts underneath. Please correct me in Barony spelling! Any comments? The Flax Growers Bounty List, 1796 Individuals with MARTIN surname in Civil Parishes of County Monaghan Baronies (north to south): .............. Trough..... Monaghan ...... Dartree..... Creemore ........ Farney ( spelling? ) Code: T M D C F Alphabetized by given name: Civil Parish .... barony code Alexander : Donagh........................ T Andrew : Donagh ....................... T Andrew : Killeevan ............................................................... D Bartle : Magheracloone .............................................................................. .................... F Bryan : Donaghmoyne .............................................................................. ..................... F ***** Bryan Catherine : Magheracloone .............................................................................. .................... F Cicely : Magheracloone .............................................................................. .................... F Edward : Donaghmoyne .............................................................................. ...................... F ***** Edward Eli : Muckno .............................................................................. ........ C Francis : Aghnamullen .............................................................................. ...C Francis : Donaghmoyne................................................................... .................................. F Henry : Kilmore .......................................... M Henry : Magheracloone .............................................................................. ..................... F Hugh : Magheracloone .............................................................................. ..................... F James : Aghnamullen .............................................................................. C << James James : Donaghmoyne .............................................................................. ....................... F ****** James James : Killanny .............................................................................. ................................. F ****** James James : Magheracloone .............................................................................. ..................... F ****** James James : Tehallan ......................................... M << James John : Aghnamullen .............................................................................. . C John : Clontibret .............................................................................. ...... C John : Drumsnat ....................................... M John : Killeevan .................................................................... D John : Magheracloone .............................................................................. ..................... F Joseph : Killeevan ................................................................... D Margaret : Muckno .............................................................................. .......... C Nicholas : Donaghmoyne .............................................................................. ....................... F Owen : Donaghmoyne .............................................................................. ...................... F Patrick : Aghabog .................................................................... D << Patrick Patrick : Donaghmoyne .............................................................................. ...................... F ****** Patrick Patrick : Magheracloone .............................................................................. ..................... F ****** Patrick Peter : Donaghmoyne .............................................................................. ....................... F ****** Peter Philip : Donaghmoyne .............................................................................. ....................... F Philip : Magheracloone .............................................................................. ...................... F Robert : Drumsnat ...................................... M Samuel : Muckno .............................................................................. ........... C Terence : Magheracloone .............................................................................. ..................... F Thomas : Magheross .............................................................................. ........................... F ***** Thomas Widow ??: Tehallan ........................................ M William : Aghabog ...................................................................... D William : Aghnamullen .............................................................................. .... C William : Ematris ........................................................................ D William : Muckno .............................................................................. ............ C William : Tullycorbet .................................... M Code: T M D C F Total per barony .............................. 2 ............. 6 ..................... 6 .............. 9 ..................... 21 % per barony of MARTIN total ......... 4 % 14 % 14 % 20 % 48 % Aside from the fact that I know little about each of the "Barony" ( including perhaps proper spelling) and I have no indication that any of the family were "flax growers" and what that might have to do with my approach to research, the above has interesting implications for me when I consider naming traditions in Irish families. The earliest known ancestor in my MARTIN family was Edward; son's named: Bryan, James, Patrick, Peter, Thomas. I see that nearly half of all MARTINs in Monaghan are from the southern Barony of Farney(?), and son Bryan's naturalization papers have him born 1799 in Carrickmacross (also in this Barony). I also note that the ONLY instances of the given names Edward, Bryan, Peter and Thomas are of this southern Barony. In the case of the names James and Patrick, the majority are also in the south. Of special note, an old family note said that son James was born Killanny parish ca 1810. Conclusion: Given the likely birthyear range of the sons of Edward (est 1785-1815 ), at least SOME of the above are likely uncles and Edward of Donaghmoyne parish in 1796 could be the immigrant ancestor. Am I seeing too much here? What should I learn about Farney Barony to aid in my research? regards, Al Rose

Hi all, As I endeavor to learn more about Irish research, terminology, repositories, etc. I have come across an excellent research aid. This book is _Irish and Scotch-Irish Ancestral Research_, Volumes I and II by Margaret Dickson Falley, Fourth Printing, 1998, Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, MD, USA; ISBN:0-8063-0916-4. This book is proving tremendously helpful for understanding the various terms - parish, barony, townland, etc., their use, repositories, and much much more. Regards, Donna Ristenbatt ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ der@redrose.net Visit: ON THE TRAIL OF OUR ANCESTORS http://www.ristenbatt.com/genealogy

Thank you to Ann Harney, Jane Lyons, Pat Traynor, Donna E. Ristenbatt, Patricia Kostelnik for answers, advice and information to my question regarding the records of the civil parishes of Donagh and Errigle Trough. Previous to my query I 'thought' I had the place names of my research all 'figured' out - WRONG - so thanks to these considerate people I will know be searching in the correct places. Thank you - time is precious and I appreciate your efforts! Now, if we can get some answers to Jane's questions below - someone - somewhere must know something . . . . Regards and thanks again, Sandy W -----Original Message----- From: Jane Lyons [mailto:jlyons1@iol.ie] Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 11:30 PM To: IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Errigal Trough Civil Parish:C of I records John Grenham does not list any of the following from what I can make out in his Tracing your Irish Ancestors : 1st Edition which lists Protestant parish records. I don't think you will find many if any of these outside the Public Records Office of Northern Ireland, but at least posting them makes people aware of their existence and the dates covered. If you think that you should be able to find information on your ancestors in any of these parish records and the dates listed here do not cover the period you are interested in then it is best you try and find other information such as estate records, or old books which were written about the area. If anyone has seen these registers, I am interested in hearing about the condition of them - whether the pages are written neatly, whether the film/originals are easy to read - ink faded? What information is contained in each, names and townlands or just names - ages at marriage, parents? Occupations? I will work my way through the various parishes and various denominations from whatever references I find. I would appreciate it if those of you who have viewed any I mention (and this will take a good while) would let me know something about the films as per the questions I ask above. I'm also interested in tagging any LDS film number references on to any refs to film numbers here in the various repositories in Ireland. My abbreviations are: Bapts = Baptisms Marrs = Marriages Burs = burials Vest. mins = Vestry Minutes The reference MIC/ = is to the film held by the PRONI in Belfast. Thanks. Jane Counties Monaghan & Tyrone Civil Parish: Errigal Trough: Diocese Clogher: Church of Ireland Parish records Parish: Errigal Shanco (earliest regs destroyed Dublin) Bapts 1877-1961; marrs 1845-1949; burs 1877-1974: Film No. PRONI Belfast: MIC.1/128 Vestry Mins: in local Custody Counties Monaghan & Tyrone Civil Parish: Errigal Trough: Diocese Clogher: Church of Ireland Parish records Parish: Errigal Trough Bapts, marrs & burs 1671-2, 1719-20, 1722-23 & 1728-9; bapts 1801-1980; marrs 1803-1927; burs 1802-1980; Trough relief fund regs c. 1845 & c. 1847: PRONI Film No. - Belfast: MIC.1/125 Vestry Mins : In local Custody Counties Monaghan & Tyrone Civil Parish: Errigal Trough: Diocese Clogher: Church of Ireland Parish records Parish: St. Mary's Portclare (earliest regs destroyed in Dublin) Marriages 1845 (1 entry): PRONI film No. MIC.1/125 Counties Monaghan & Tyrone Civil Parish: Errigal Trough: Diocese Clogher: Church of Ireland Parish records Parish: St. Mary's Portclare (earliest regs destroyed in Dublin) Bapts 1835-; vest mins 1882-;: In local custody

This is the only reference to a Parish Register for the RC parish of Errigal Trough. This and the list for the Church of Ireland registers come from the most recent publication by the Public Records Office of Northern Ireland. Counties Monaghan & Tyrone Civil Parish: Errigal Trough: Diocese Clogher: Roman Catholic Parish: Errigal Trough Bapts 1835-52 & 1861-81; marrs 1837-49 & 1862-81: IC.1D/19 Births, marrs, deahs, parish accs: 1837-79: DIO(RC).1/9

John Grenham does not list any of the following from what I can make out in his Tracing your Irish Ancestors : 1st Edition which lists Protestant parish records. I don't think you will find many if any of these outside the Public Records Office of Northern Ireland, but at least posting them makes people aware of their existence and the dates covered. If you think that you should be able to find information on your ancestors in any of these parish records and the dates listed here do not cover the period you are interested in then it is best you try and find other information such as estate records, or old books which were written about the area. If anyone has seen these registers, I am interested in hearing about the condition of them - whether the pages are written neatly, whether the film/originals are easy to read - ink faded? What information is contained in each, names and townlands or just names - ages at marriage, parents? Occupations? I will work my way through the various parishes and various denominations from whatever references I find. I would appreciate it if those of you who have viewed any I mention (and this will take a good while) would let me know something about the films as per the questions I ask above. I'm also interested in tagging any LDS film number references on to any refs to film numbers here in the various repositories in Ireland. My abbreviations are: Bapts = Baptisms Marrs = Marriages Burs = burials Vest. mins = Vestry Minutes The reference MIC/ = is to the film held by the PRONI in Belfast. Thanks. Jane Counties Monaghan & Tyrone Civil Parish: Errigal Trough: Diocese Clogher: Church of Ireland Parish records Parish: Errigal Shanco (earliest regs destroyed Dublin) Bapts 1877-1961; marrs 1845-1949; burs 1877-1974: Film No. PRONI Belfast: MIC.1/128 Vestry Mins: in local Custody Counties Monaghan & Tyrone Civil Parish: Errigal Trough: Diocese Clogher: Church of Ireland Parish records Parish: Errigal Trough Bapts, marrs & burs 1671-2, 1719-20, 1722-23 & 1728-9; bapts 1801-1980; marrs 1803-1927; burs 1802-1980; Trough relief fund regs c. 1845 & c. 1847: PRONI Film No. - Belfast: MIC.1/125 Vestry Mins : In local Custody Counties Monaghan & Tyrone Civil Parish: Errigal Trough: Diocese Clogher: Church of Ireland Parish records Parish: St. Mary's Portclare (earliest regs destroyed in Dublin) Marriages 1845 (1 entry): PRONI film No. MIC.1/125 Counties Monaghan & Tyrone Civil Parish: Errigal Trough: Diocese Clogher: Church of Ireland Parish records Parish: St. Mary's Portclare (earliest regs destroyed in Dublin) Bapts 1835-; vest mins 1882-;: In local custody

"Sandra Whittaker" <elmoilsw@telusplanet.net>... wrote........ >...... Are there cemetery and/or tombstone inscriptions, parish registers >available? How many cemeteries are there? Are there a lot of interments >with headstones? > >Where is Killylargh, Co. Monaghan? Is it near Emyvale, Glasslough, >Dernalosset and Tonynumery? Go to AnnHarney's co. Monaghan page, she should know; http://www.exis.net/ahd/mcgeough.htm Careful now. There is a Killyfaragh, 130 ac., as well as a Killlaragh, 107 ac. Both in Errigal Trough parish, but in different P.L.Unions. An "L" may have been written like an "F", or vice versa. Ann's site may have a townland map of those parishes, and she's probably been there too. Patrick Traynor, in California's gold-rush country. tray@jps.net TRAYNOR'S Web Page (Irish stuff) http://members.nbci.com/pattraynor/

Searching for McMahon and Maran from Carrickmacross. James McMahon (born about 1834) son of James and Judette (Maran) McMahon. The son left Ireland for America in 1853, settling in Ohio His parents followed in 1861. Family was Roman Catholic. Any help with this family would be greatly appreciated! Mary (Shank) Smith

1. Emyvale Town is in the Parish of Donagh, Barony of Trough, Poor Law Union of Monaghan town. 2. Glaslough Town is in the Parish of Donagh, Barony of Trough, Poor Law Union of Monaghan town. 3. Dernalosset is a townland in the Parish of Errigal Trough, Barony of Trough, Poor Law Union of Monaghan town. Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: Sandra Whittaker <elmoilsw@telusplanet.net> To: <IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 4:51 PM Subject: RE: Parishes records - Emyvale, Monaghan > Sorry no can't tell you what Errigle means. Can someone out there tell me > what the full name of the parish is that Emyvale, Glasslough/Glaslough, > Dernalosset are in. All the references to marriage records for the > McCrudden girls are listed on the IGI as Errigle Trough, Monaghan, Ireland. > For some reason I though that these towns were in the Errigle Trough Parish > or Barony. And I also thought that the Parish of Donagh was very near by, > (as you said just a walk away) but perhaps in County Tyrone. HELP! Sandy > > -----Original Message----- > From: Donna E. Ristenbatt [mailto:der@redrose.net] > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 12:07 PM > To: elmoilsw@telusplanet.net > Subject: RE: Parishes records - Emyvale, Monaghan > > > Hi Sandy, > > On 29 Jan 2001, at 11:09, Sandra Whittaker wrote: > > > > > Thanks, Donna - so Emyvale is in: > > > > Barony - Errigle Trough > > Parish - Donagh > > On this one, can you explain the word Errigle? That doesn't appear on > the URL I gave below. As for published records, I believe someone gave > a URL for that, but might have been on County Tyrone's list. I will check > that for you. I am interested in this as well. My lines were strict > Presbyterian, but supposedly they went over the border to County > Tyrone to church - that is "family legend." If they were very strict, I was > told they might have done that, in order to find a "Purist" church, in their > eyes. I would love to find record, also, of my ROGERS and MORRISON > in some church's records, but so far nothing. > > NOW - if that helps anyone - are there any published records? > > > > Sandy W > > > > Hi Sandy, > > > > If you go to: > > > > http://www.seanruad.com/ > > > > and type in Emyvale, it will come up with: > > > > Town of Emyvale, AKA Scarnageeragh; 119 acres; County Monaghan; > > Barony: Trough; Parish: Donagh; Poor Law Union: Monaghan; Province: > > Ulster. > > > Regards, > Donna Ristenbatt > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > der@redrose.net > Visit: ON THE TRAIL OF OUR ANCESTORS > http://www.ristenbatt.com/genealogy > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Ships' Lists, PA and Mennonite Research Corner, > Dutch Research Corner, Cemetery Lists, > Rev. War Loyalists, Finding a Civil War Ancestor, > Many Surnames and More! >

Sorry no can't tell you what Errigle means. Can someone out there tell me what the full name of the parish is that Emyvale, Glasslough/Glaslough, Dernalosset are in. All the references to marriage records for the McCrudden girls are listed on the IGI as Errigle Trough, Monaghan, Ireland. For some reason I though that these towns were in the Errigle Trough Parish or Barony. And I also thought that the Parish of Donagh was very near by, (as you said just a walk away) but perhaps in County Tyrone. HELP! Sandy -----Original Message----- From: Donna E. Ristenbatt [mailto:der@redrose.net] Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 12:07 PM To: elmoilsw@telusplanet.net Subject: RE: Parishes records - Emyvale, Monaghan Hi Sandy, On 29 Jan 2001, at 11:09, Sandra Whittaker wrote: > > Thanks, Donna - so Emyvale is in: > > Barony - Errigle Trough > Parish - Donagh On this one, can you explain the word Errigle? That doesn't appear on the URL I gave below. As for published records, I believe someone gave a URL for that, but might have been on County Tyrone's list. I will check that for you. I am interested in this as well. My lines were strict Presbyterian, but supposedly they went over the border to County Tyrone to church - that is "family legend." If they were very strict, I was told they might have done that, in order to find a "Purist" church, in their eyes. I would love to find record, also, of my ROGERS and MORRISON in some church's records, but so far nothing. > NOW - if that helps anyone - are there any published records? > > Sandy W > > Hi Sandy, > > If you go to: > > http://www.seanruad.com/ > > and type in Emyvale, it will come up with: > > Town of Emyvale, AKA Scarnageeragh; 119 acres; County Monaghan; > Barony: Trough; Parish: Donagh; Poor Law Union: Monaghan; Province: > Ulster. Regards, Donna Ristenbatt ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ der@redrose.net Visit: ON THE TRAIL OF OUR ANCESTORS http://www.ristenbatt.com/genealogy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ships' Lists, PA and Mennonite Research Corner, Dutch Research Corner, Cemetery Lists, Rev. War Loyalists, Finding a Civil War Ancestor, Many Surnames and More!

Colleagues, I am trying to locate Lamplugh Parish which I think is in the NW part of England near the Scottish Border (Cumberland? Westmoreland?) which may have been a temporary home for some Windrums in the 1590-1650 period as parts of the family moved from Lanark to Monaghan. Can anyone help me? Thanks Ralph Wyndrum Jr.

I am researching the THOMPSON family of county Monaghan in the mid 1800's. William Thompson was born Jan 25 in Tullynageer, Monaghan , to James THOMPSON and Mary BIRCH. William was one of 8 children born to James and Mary. William also had 13 other half-siblings as James was married a second time (second wife's name unknown). Does anyone out there have any connections to this family? I realize the information is sparse but I'm just starting to research this family. Regards Miriam in Winnipeg, Canada _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

Hi Sandy, If you go to: http://www.seanruad.com/ and type in Emyvale, it will come up with: Town of Emyvale, AKA Scarnageeragh; 119 acres; County Monaghan; Barony: Trough; Parish: Donagh; Poor Law Union: Monaghan; Province: Ulster. There is also a book (No longer in print) that is in some LDS Family History Centers entitled: _ A Topographical Index of the Parishes and Tonwlands of Ireland in Sir William Petty's Mss. Barony Maps_ by Y.M. Goblet which gives the exact same information. Maybe this book is on CD, I don't know. On 29 Jan 2001, at 10:04, Sandra Whittaker wrote: > Now that is interesting - My records show the Parish of Errigle Trough - > when I look up my ancestors on the IGI - they show the parish of Errigle > Trough - maybe someone can tell us which is correct. > > It is amazing how many people are interested in this little 'one horse > town.' > > Sandy W > Regards, Donna Ristenbatt ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ der@redrose.net Visit: ON THE TRAIL OF OUR ANCESTORS http://www.ristenbatt.com/genealogy

Now that is interesting - My records show the Parish of Errigle Trough - when I look up my ancestors on the IGI - they show the parish of Errigle Trough - maybe someone can tell us which is correct. It is amazing how many people are interested in this little 'one horse town.' Sandy W -----Original Message----- From: Donna E. Ristenbatt [mailto:der@redrose.net] Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 5:05 PM To: elmoilsw@telusplanet.net Subject: Re: Parishes records - Emyvale, Monaghan Hi Sandy, On 28 Jan 2001, at 10:50, Sandra Whittaker wrote: > Can anyone tell me if there are records available for non-catholic churches > and cemetaries in the area of Emyvale. I know Emyvale is in the parish of > Errigle Trough, and I understand that the Parish of Donagh is very close as > well. Are there cemetery and/or tombstone inscriptions, parish registers > available? How many cemeteries are there? Are there a lot of interments > with headstones? > > Where is Killylargh, Co. Monaghan? Is it near Emyvale, Glasslough, > Dernalosset and Tonynumery? > > Appreciate any help and guidance. > > Sandy W Am not sure if you are new to this list or not. If you are, then you do not know that I am also interested in Emyvale as well. Amazing, as Emyvale has been described to me as a "one street town." So, to have someone else interested in it is amazing, in my opinion. In short, I would be interested in any information from responses that you receive, if you would be so kind as to share those. It is my understanding that Emyvale is in the Civil Parish of Donagh, according to Lewis' Topographical Dictionary of Townlands, etc. as well as the Townland/Town guide online. Trough is the Barony and Monaghan is the Poor Law Union. My ancestors were Scots-Irish and were Presbyterian - names that I am seeking are ROGERS, MORRISON, McKIRK, ALEXANDER, McCULLOCH. Regards, Donna Ristenbatt ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ der@redrose.net Visit: ON THE TRAIL OF OUR ANCESTORS http://www.ristenbatt.com/genealogy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ships' Lists, PA and Mennonite Research Corner, Dutch Research Corner, Cemetery Lists, Rev. War Loyalists, Finding a Civil War Ancestor, Many Surnames and More!

Thanks for the info Ann. I am searcing Boyd, McCrudden, Wright, Woods in the area mentioned. Actually I've posted details of these lines to the list in the past two weeks. Rather than repeat again - I'm sure it is available in the list archives. I was wondering if any of these records are published - seems like there are quite a few people interested in this area, but I've never been able to find published records (what I wouldn't give to be able to roam through the cemetaries with my camera!) BTW, religious persuasion is non-Catholic (ie: Church of Ireland, Methodist (if it existed there) Regards, Sandy Whittaker Alberta Canada -----Original Message----- From: Ann Harney [mailto:aharney@exis.net] Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 4:47 PM To: Sandra Whittaker Cc: IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: Parishes records - Emyvale, Monaghan Yes http://www.exis.net/ahd/monaghan/churchregisters.htm records some information. > Can anyone tell me if there are records available for > non-catholic churches > and cemetaries in the area of Emyvale. I know Yes > well. Are there cemetery and/or tombstone inscriptions, parish registers In Errigal.....all are near each other - aa walk in days of yore. > Where is Killylargh, Co. Monaghan? Is it near Emyvale, Glasslough, > Dernalosset and Tonynumery? It would be most helpful if the surnames, dates and religious persuasion of those you are searching were posted. Ann