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    1. Duffy/Carroll
    2. Anne Duffy
    3. Hi! All I'm new to the list and encouraged by Jane I'm posting my search in the hope that maybe someone out there can shed some light. Thomas Duffy married Mary Carroll daughter of Michael and Mary Carroll in Monaghan in the early 1840s. Son Owen was born March 1843or 44 in Ireland or on the high sea. They ended in North Providence (now known as Pawtucket) Rhode Island at the latest in 1847. I've found several entries in the tithe app. for Michael C. And Owen Duffy one has both in the townland Drumillard in Aghnamullen. Any one know about this area? TIA Anne -- ****** Anne Duffy mailto:rid22576@ride.ri.net

    02/06/2001 09:33:26
    1. Re: Trough versus Truagh
    2. Pat Traynor
    3. I found a definition of TROUGH at; http://www.n-ireland.co.uk/genealogy/placenames/index.htm --------------------------------------------- TROUGH = Thirty hundreds of land, a barony. -------------------------------------------- Errigal = A habitation. Small church or oratory. ---------------------------------------------- Quoting..... "Donna E. Ristenbatt" <der@redrose.net> >Hi all, > >I have a question regarding Trough, the barony of Emyvale, in County >Monaghan. I noted that in his book, Seamus McCluskey always spells >the word Truagh. In such books as _Topographical Index, etc. _ it is >Trough. Is there any special reason for this? Thanks. > > >Regards, >Donna Ristenbatt ---------------------- From me...... Doesn't seem like "miserable house" (Errigal Truagh) would be the name of a parish. TRUAGH = Wretched, miserable, unhappy. ERRIGAL: From eireagail, meaning house.

    02/06/2001 08:11:50
    1. Re: how do i see this site
    2. We have moved from Oregon (west coast) to New Hampshire East Coast). Our move is now complete, as the moving company came last friday with our belongings, The relocation company came yesterday and did the hooks ups on everything. If I am able to help anyone with research that they may need done in New England I would be happy to do so. The village that we live in is called Derry. (yes name for Derry, Ireland. Rose Cranston in Derry, New hampshire

    02/06/2001 12:38:46
    1. Off the net until March
    2. I will be off e-mail access until March. I did not want anyone to think I was being rude by not replying. I will catch up in short order by the first few days of March. Cheers! Al Rose

    02/05/2001 09:27:00
    1. Re: Trough versus Truagh
    2. Pat Traynor
    3. Quoting..... "Donna E. Ristenbatt" <der@redrose.net> >Hi all, > >I have a question regarding Trough, the barony of Emyvale, in County >Monaghan. I noted that in his book, Seamus McCluskey always spells >the word Truagh. In such books as _Topographical Index, etc. _ it is >Trough. Is there any special reason for this? Thanks. > > >Regards, >Donna Ristenbatt I believe TROUGH should be the correct name, and TRUAGH is an incorrect spelling of it that has become popular through the ages. Doesn't seem like "miserable house" (Errigal Truagh) would be the name of a parish. TRUAGH = Wretched, miserable, unhappy. ERRIGAL: From eireagail, meaning house. Can't find TROUGH in my little Irish dictionary. Anyone know that word? Patrick Traynor, in California's gold-rush country. tray@jps.net TRAYNOR'S Web Page (Irish stuff) http://members.nbci.com/pattraynor/

    02/04/2001 03:47:31
    1. 1830 Declaration Against the Repeal of the Union
    2. Jane Lyons
    3. The following from co. Monaghan signed the Declaration Against the Repeal of the union in 1830. this is only a list and nothing more on these people. Jane Surname Name From County Occupation Olpherts William Dartry Monaghan J.P. Adams Thomas Monaghan HamiltonDacreCornacopaMonaghan Hamilton James Cornacopa Monaghan hodge Robert Monaghan Hetherington Thomas Monaghan Johnston John Monaghan Lucas Edward Castleshane Monaghan

    02/04/2001 03:39:47
    1. Irish URL's
    2. Jane Lyons
    3. All these links were valid when I checked them this morning. If you have any problems then it may be because the site is down temporarily or because too many people are trying to connect in at the same time as you, so try again another time. Jane Ireland at a glance: Slow enough to load, but well worth it from what I can see of links. http://web.one.net.au/~silverback/ireland/ Ireland: About Ireland but not a site from Ireland http://goireland.about.com/travel/goireland/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http GENUKI site: Library of Congress references: Ireland, Irish, Family names, Books http://www.genuki.org.uk/ab/GENEALOG.LC_IRL.html Ireland: Ordnance Survey Memoirs: An Advertisement - an American address, but lists those counties which the Memoirs have been reproduced for and you work your own way from there if you want to buy them. Does not include southern counties as these have not been republished yet as far as I know. http://www2.smart.net/~aihdrh/osmem100.html Church of Ireland Home Page: There is a section on Genealogy here - I have not looked at that. http://www.ireland.anglican.org/ Irish Coats of Arms: Interesting enough - an Irish website, you don't have to buy and you can download some of these images if I remember rightly. They can be very slow to load. http://homepage.eircom.net/~donnaweb/ Irish Family History Research on the Internet see: Lots of links - very good http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/nzsoghamilton/ireland.htm Irish Famine newspapers & Articles: Extracts from Irish Newspapers of the time and articles from Irish Historical Journals http://avery.med.virginia.edu/~eas5e/Irish/Irish.html Rootswebs: Irish Genealogical Society, Int'l (IGSI) http://www.rootsweb.com/~irish/index.html Irish genealogy: Canadian Family History Magazine, does have Irish articles: http://globalgazette.net/ Irish in America: Genealogy: with more than just genealogy how to's. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/irish/genealogy.html Irish Links: Good links, whether the same as you'll have found before or not I haven't checked. http://www.standard.net.au/~jwilliams/irelinks.htm Irish Links: This one may be iffy, the URL brought me there but while the links look interesting re Irish History and current Irish sites there were a few I checked and the address was invalid. http://historyoftheworld.com/soquel/irish2.htm Irish Site: Music: The instruments and the sounds - some older like Davy Spillane and Donal Lunny and then Sharon Shannon http://www.emi-premier.co.uk/commonground/mi/index.html Local Ireland: Almost everyone will be familiar with this site http://www.local.ie/ Irish Genealogy Forum: http://www.genforum.com/ireland/ Irish State: Information - maybe you'll find info here on Citizenship or our tax laws. There's an 'ask' page, go and ask and then let us all know how quickly you get a reply :-) http://www.irlgov.ie/ Irish Times: Placenames & meanings - the first deals with Northern Ireland only and then the second is Sean Ruad's Townland site. http://www.n-ireland.co.uk/genealogy/placenames/index.htm www.seanruad.com Irish/Australian info: Here you will find links to Australian pages with an Irish content. http://users.bigpond.com/kirwilli/aussie_irish/aussie_irish.htm Irish: The home page for this one is the Catholic Church in America. http://home.att.net/~Local_Catholic/Catholic-Ireland.htm Irish: general Info http://www.bookcase.com/library/faq/archive/cultures/irish-faq/part10.html Irish: Museums on the web http://www.elsas.demon.nl/ierland.htm

    02/04/2001 02:43:16
    1. Tullycolllive . . .
    2. Ann Harney
    3. Both are east of Castleblayney across Muckno Lake and on / near the Armagh border. They are South of Mullyash which is North and east of Castleblayney. If you go to maps.expedia.com and select find a map.... Select a place in Europe Enter Castleblayney, Monaghan, Ireland Voila.....you will see Muckno Lough and just to the right the border. This is the area. HTH.... Aann

    02/03/2001 04:32:51
    1. Re: Emyvale Book
    2. Tom & Therese Hoare
    3. Does anyone know if this book is still in print and whether it is available? Therese, in Australia. Looking for James McKENNA and Mary McCALLEN of Emyvale, middle 1800s.

    02/03/2001 09:15:27
    1. RE: IRL-MONAGHAN-D Digest V01 #10
    2. Ann Harney
    3. Last week I posted a list of FHL films that included many Presbyterian records. Go to the list page, http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-MONAGHAN.html search the monaghan archives on LDS FHL ...... or browse the archives for January. Cheers, Aann

    02/03/2001 07:44:57
    1. RE: Trough versus Truagh
    2. Ann Harney
    3. I believe the Trough is englished. Earlier names were Triùch[a]. English was not the native language in Ireland. The old names became corrupted through the years. Ann

    02/03/2001 07:44:56
    1. Trough versus Truagh
    2. Donna E. Ristenbatt
    3. Hi all, I have a question regarding Trough, the barony of Emyvale, in County Monaghan. I noted that in his book, Seamus McCluskey always spells the word Truagh. In such books as _Topographical Index, etc. _ it is Trough. Is there any special reason for this? Thanks. Regards, Donna Ristenbatt ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ der@redrose.net Visit: ON THE TRAIL OF OUR ANCESTORS http://www.ristenbatt.com/genealogy

    02/03/2001 01:19:54
    1. Muckno parish locations
    2. Beverly F Dorfner
    3. Where is Tullycollive and Dromore in relation to Castleblayney and nearby Mullyash Mt. area? thanks, bev (Seattle) ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

    02/02/2001 12:58:17
    1. Castleblayney Presby. churchyard-CATEN
    2. Beverly F Dorfner
    3. Anyone have access to the Presbyterian churchyard records in Castleblayney? Looking for any CATEN/CATONs buried there. Hugh b. 3-4 miles away at Mullyash Mt. area bev ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

    02/02/2001 12:56:31
    1. Emyvale Book
    2. Donna E. Ristenbatt
    3. Hi all, I have noted that there are a number on this list interested in ancestors from Emyvale. Yesterday I read a very good book (about 60 some pages) at our local LDS Family History Center. The book is entitled _Emyvale, Sweet Emyvale_ by Seamus McCluskey, published in Monaghan. The book is on one microfiche, #6036564. The book gives a great history of Emyvale from its earliest times into the 1900s, gives geographical information, includes stories of "local color," has photos (not well viewed on the microfiche reader, but when printed out on the microfilm reader/printer using manual setting at its darkest and Negative to Positive setting, fairly well viewable) and also an Appendix that "names names" of citizens. One item in the Appendix was the 1861 Griffith's Valuation for Emyvale. I was happy to see that even though 15 years after my ancestors supposedly left, there was at least one ROGERS and one MORRISON. This delightful book (in my humble opinion) adds "flesh to the bones" of our ancestors and is helpful for understanding the people, not only of Emyvale, but of surrounding counties as well. Regards, Donna Ristenbatt ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ der@redrose.net Visit: ON THE TRAIL OF OUR ANCESTORS http://www.ristenbatt.com/genealogy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ships' Lists, PA and Mennonite Research Corner, Dutch Research Corner, Cemetery Lists, Rev. War Loyalists, Finding a Civil War Ancestor, Many Surnames and More!

    02/02/2001 05:50:09
    1. Emyvale Book
    2. Donna E. Ristenbatt
    3. Hi all, I have noted that there are a number on this list interested in ancestors from Emyvale. Yesterday I read a very good book (about 60 some pages) at our local LDS Family History Center. The book is entitled _Emyvale, Sweet Emyvale_ by Seamus McCluskey, published in Monaghan. The book is on one microfiche, #6036564. The book gives a great history of Emyvale from its earliest times into the 1900s, gives geographical information, includes stories of "local color," has photos (not well viewed on the microfiche reader, but when printed out on the microfilm reader/printer using manual setting at its darkest and Negative to Positive setting, fairly well viewable) and also an Appendix that "names names" of citizens. One item in the Appendix was the 1861 Griffith's Valuation for Emyvale. I was happy to see that even though 15 years after my ancestors supposedly left, there was at least one ROGERS and one MORRISON. This delightful book (in my humble opinion) adds "flesh to the bones" of our ancestors and is helpful for understanding the people, not only of Emyvale, but of surrounding counties as well. Regards, Donna Ristenbatt ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ der@redrose.net Visit: ON THE TRAIL OF OUR ANCESTORS http://www.ristenbatt.com/genealogy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ships' Lists, PA and Mennonite Research Corner, Dutch Research Corner, Cemetery Lists, Rev. War Loyalists, Finding a Civil War Ancestor, Many Surnames and More!

    02/02/2001 03:43:34
    1. Smiths of Castleblaney
    2. David Smith
    3. Posted on: Ireland<br>County Monaghan<br>Obituary-Cemetery & Tombstone Inscriptions Record Board Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/Ireland/MonagahanObits/9 Surname: Smith Charles, Smith Henry ------------------------- Am looking for any information on Charles Smith and his son Henry who was born in 1864. Henry worked at Blaney Castle as a gardener. Perhaps Charles also. I believe Henry, who died in 1947, is buried in the Presbyterian Churchyard in Castleblaney and it is possible that Charles is also. Any information on either of them would be most appreciated particularly the inscription on the grave stones. Thankyou.

    02/01/2001 09:39:28
    1. RE: Parishes records - Emyvale, Monaghan
    2. Sandra Whittaker
    3. Thanks Ann - One day I am going to go there, stroll through the cemeteries and church records (AND record like a mad woman!) You mention barriers and barracks? Was that between Tyrone and Monaghan? Because of the civil war/IRA and all that stuff? For some unknown reason I never imagined that there would have been a lot of the violence we saw on TV, way up in that corner of the county. hmmm, food for thought! Sandy PS What does HTH stand for? -----Original Message----- From: Ann Harney [mailto:ann.harney@verizon.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 8:44 PM To: Sandra Whittaker Cc: IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: Parishes records - Emyvale, Monaghan Glasslough, Emyvale are in Donagh Parish; Dernalosset in Errigal Truagh or Trough. Not to get hung up on names, spellings. Early Irish got englished, mispelled. Errigal ( from Aireagail meaning house) was an early Christian Foundation of St Muadain or Mellan. They are close by. If you lived there all your life you might not have a clue where the parishes, townlands began and ended. No markers. And before the partition.....you would not even know when you crossed into Tyrone. Same now that the barriers and barracks are gone. HTH.... Ann

    02/01/2001 12:50:28
    1. Looking for Info about g-g-grandparents
    2. Leslie Ball
    3. I am interested in looking for any information about my great-great-grandparents both born in County Monaghan. Joseph Brown born 1811 married Agnes Todd born 1819. They were married on July 2, 1840. Immigrated to Canada shortly after and settled for a short time around Port Hope, Ontario. All their 12 children were born prior to moving to Vasey, Ontario, were they spent the rest of their lives. Thanks, Leslie

    01/31/2001 03:48:45
    1. RE: Flax Growers Martin
    2. A & A Roberts
    3. Hi all, Thanks, Al, for the Flax growers list of Martins. I have Martins in Carrickmacross, Magheross, Farney. They were farmers, but I don't know what kind. The only one listed in Farney is a Thomas, but I don't go back that far so I don't know if he is my line. I do know that Martin is a VERY common name in Ireland, like Smith and Jones. My Grandfather Patrick was from Mullaghboy, Carrickmacross, son of Peter and Anne (Flanagan) Martin, son of Michael and Bridget (Keenan) Martin. Perhaps Michael's father or grandfather was Thomas. Does the Flax growers list list anything else besides their name? Thanks. Anita Roberts Brush Prairie, WA

    01/31/2001 01:51:40