In the Churchyard of the Aghnamullen C o I (Christ Church), near Anny, in the Parish of Aghnamullen: "This stone was erected by Robert Wallace of Anny of this County, in memory of his Father & Mother Robert & Isabell Wallace whose remains are here interred. Robert Wallace departed this life Oct 29th 1738, in the 84th year of his age. Isabell departed this life July 2, 1744, in the 82d year of her age. Here also lieth the remains of William Wallace, son of the above Robert & Isabell, who departed this life, Dec the 7th, 1727 in the 23rd year of his age. On the 14th of January 1768, in the 70th year of his age, died Robert Wallace who erected this stone, his remains are here deposited." from _The History of the County of Monaghan_ , by E. J. Shirley, pub. in 1879. According to Shirley, there are Parish Registers of Baptisms and Burials in 1801, Marriages in 1802. There was also found before the year 1830, by the Churchwarden, the late Captain Francis Johnston, some remains of a much older book.... This is carefully preserved with the other parochial records. Church records are at the Representative Church Body Library in Dublin. None of this church in the Mormon FHL. See: http://www.ireland.anglican.org/ There is a picture of the churchyard online at: http://www.exis.net/ahd/2000/ Millmore House is / was nearby the church in the townland of Derry. Picture of Derry Hill at the above web address. Within the church is a tablet in memory of "Francis Johnston Esq of Millmore House, late Captain of Her Majesties 83rd Regiment. Born 1st of Feb 1789. Died 25 April 1862, and of Mary Johnston his wife. Born 2nd Dec 1801. Died 9 April 1862." This was a long standing regiment. Also in the churchyard: "Here lies the body of Mary Johnston, who departed this life, February 2, 1866, aged 27 years, also Francis Johnston her husband, who died the 6th of December 1766, aged 37 years, also John Galbraith Johnston, son of the above named Francis and Mary, who died Nov 20, 1802 aged 38 years. The 83rd Regiment served at the Battle of Waterloo. Jane may remember my search for this book! HTH.... Ann _________________ Ann Harney Co. Monaghan History & Resources http://www.exis.net/monaghan/ >William McComb b.abt 1685 Ireland.m.------ daughter of Robert Wallace of Anni,Co.Monaghan,Ireland.Children:Isabell,Jean,John,Gordon,Robert + Mary.He d.1727,Ballyhone Co.Antrim,leaving children to care for his father. His son ______________________________

Greetings, I am trying to find the family, birth, etc. of my 3rd great grandfather, George Corry. We know that he served as a private in the British regiment of Household cavalry--First Life Guards. He enlisted in 1790 and served until 1802. He was married to Margaret Cole on 2 September 1790 in the parish of St. George, Hanover Square, London, England. He, with his wife and children emigrated to Canada as "military settlers" (George received a grant of land from the Earl of Bathurst) in 1817 sailing on the ship "Vittorio". They settled in Bathurst area but later moved to the Plympton area of Lambton County, Upper Canada (Ontario). Some genealogists in my family connect George to the Monaghan Corry families. Others connect him to Ematris Parish, County of Cavan. With this connection, his father is Thomas Corry, mother is Mrs. Thomas Corry. George is born 28 November 1764 with siblings: Isaac (25 January 1776), William (14 July 1778), Jane (9 August 1783) and Thomas (17 January 1785). If he connects to Monaghan or Cavan Counties, then he would have left Ireland and moved to England sometime before 1790. Any CLUES anyone? Thanks for any help. Sue Anne Beckstrand Thompson

This is what I've been up to for the last while - and why I am staying quiet on the lists. There are loads more pages almost finished, but these links are good. I've begun the placename index, I have a few stories and legends - the glimpses piece is bits from books which show a bit of the Irish character, there is a contents page for all 32 counties, I've got the info on 10 RC dioceses for 1836 - that way I cover all the counties and leave some for next time round. I've had to learn HTML - I don't think I'm doing too badly - for a beginner!! I've got two pages for the journals, one for Seanchas Ardmhaca and one for Waterford - I also have the Kildare Archaeological Society as well - I'm listing all the articles in each of those journals for the first five years of publication - then from now one I'll continue to build onto those and create more pages for the other ones. I've got another page listing the surnames found in Brian Cantwells South East Wicklow Memorial Transcriptions - not all the surnames but maybe to G or F or somthing like that - the name, the graveyards they are recorded in and nothing more - a reference for people searching and I don't really break any copyright law bu giving what's in the index or at least I don't think I'll do. I've got another page for the 1820 Dublin Directory - listing all the people whose surnames begin with A and their occupations and addresses I've got a description of county Antrim with the geography and statistics - a description of the geography and history of the parish of Aghaboe in Laois - the transcription for one of my graveyards in Laois - and right now, I can't remember what else. This lot - the indices will be staying on the web and as they build then they'll go up there and the newsletter itself will have more info but the main indices will be on some web site for as long as there is free web space about. I'm going to build onto those for one year - after that, I may end up having to give up this hobby of mine :-( This is not the intended web site for the finished product Jane - List Admin http://uk.geocities.com/lyonsjane/frmirl.htm

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Looking for any link between this Irish family and my GGrandmother Ellen McMann in Canada. Thank you Robert

Hello Listers Im looking for the parents of a John McCooam(MacCombie) b.1619 Scotland, m Margaret Wallace, em 1680,d.1710.Parish of Dinagore,Co.Antrim,Diocese of Connor.His son John McComb b.abt. 1650 Scot, Linen draper, lived at Dunturkey,Parrish of Ballymore,Co.Antrim,12 miles N. of Belfast, on farm rented from town d.1732.His son William McComb b.abt 1685 Ireland.m.------ daughter of Robert Wallace of Anni,Co.Monaghan,Ireland.Children:Isabell,Jean,John,Gordon,Robert + Mary.He d.1727,Ballyhone Co.Antrim,leaving children to care for his father. His son John Gordon McComb,b.1717 d. after 1796,m.Jane Gordon,children:Alexander,William,Anne, em.abt 1755.Settled in Albany N.Y. Any info on the parents of the first listed would be greatly appreciated. J.McComb

I just found a marriage notice for George FAULKNER and Catherine Sarah, youngest daughter of the late Captain JOHNSTON of the 83d Regiment, and of Milmore House, Co. Monaghan. Can anyone provide me with some details on the 83d Regiment, please (and, of course, any mention of this Captain JOHNSTON). The wedding took place in Dublin, 10 Mar 1864. Thank you for your assistance. Ralph Clouse, Sacramento

brendar@capeonramp.com wrote............. >.........I accessed the Griffiths Valuation for 1858 for Donaghamoyne >Parish at the Boston College Library for Irish Studies....... > I find I need the townland of DRUMMENREAGH >also spelt other ways such as..... DRUMMENREAS etc. > >Was this townland non-existant by 1858? The townland of DRUMMANREAGH is listed in a book published in Donaghmoyne in 1986. DRUMMANREAGH = "The little stripped ridge". It is in the Broomfield district of that parish. It was spelled DRUMMENREAS in the Tithe Applotment Index. At least I assume they are the same townland as no other of the 112 townlands in Donaghmoyne is close to those spellings, except for possibly, DRUMBERAGH, in the Lisdoonan district, where one of the 17 WOODS sponsors of the book now lives. There are 16 BURNS and 25 DUFFYs listed as sponsors also. A Frank Duffy authored the book about the 100 year history of Gaelic football in that parish. Patrick Traynor, in California's gold-rush country. tray@jps.net TRAYNOR'S Web Page (Irish stuff) http://members.nbci.com/pattraynor/

From something I'm working on: a few bits of pieces on what people or some people in Co. Monaghan buried in the foundations of their houses to bring them good luck.... These are only specific to Co. Monaghan where it says so. Jane "Items were buried in the foundations of the house, these were of two kinds, religious or superstitious. The main place for burial was under the foundation stone of a house. A new coin with the date of the year in which the house was built was the most favoured. A coin was supposed to bring prosperity, the owners of the hosue would never be without money. Again, the old English florin was considered very lucky with it's 'cross' on one side. People liked to have a silver coin, those who were rich enough used a gold sovereign or a half sovereign. As with other things, we can see customary items being buried in specific counties. In counties Offaly (King's), Westmeath and Monaghan the people liked to place St. Benedict's medals in the four corners of a house. A small piece of 'Gartan clay' -earth from St. Columcille's sanctuary at Gartan was put into the foundations of many Donegal houses. Donegal people also used clay from Tory Island, another sanctuary of St. Columcille, the patron saint of Donegal. We are told that if this clay was in the foundations, the house would not go on fire. Small containers of holy water have been recovered from foundations, written prayers or holy pictures in containers. Small pieces of iron in houses in Carncash, Co. Sligo; Emyvale, Co. Monaghan; Dualla, Co. Tipperary; in Inistiogue in Co. Kilkenny a horseshoe has been found; a piece of tobacco in Co. Monaghan and some whiskey in Kerrykeel, Co. Donegal. Only the people who put in their good luck charms know why they included what they did in their foundations, we can only guess."

Hi list, Still looking for Felix MCCABE born abt. 1840's married Rosann MCCORMALLY , May 1860 Aughnamullan. Felix's father, Luke McCabe was married to _______ MCDONALD. I still can't find her first name any where. Waiting for the marriage record to come from Dublin. Does anyone have any information on these MCCABE's? Cheers Greg McCabe

Someone on the CATON-L surname list suggested Castleblayney, Monaghan, as a place to look for our John CATON alias KATON, born June 1841 in Ireland (1900 census), came to the US in April 1864 (Naturalization Petition), and died 29 Aug 1913 (Cuyahoga Co Adm) in Cleveland, OH. He married abt. 1870, Grace ---, born June 1851 in Ireland, died betw 1928 and 1932 in Ohio. Their children (1880, 1900 census) were Margaret (m ANDERSON), Sarah/Sadie (m TULLY), Mary (m TURNBULL), Katherine, Eliza, Michael, Patrick, and Hugh A. Would like to hear from anyone familiar with CATONs in Monaghan. Gary & Claire hcmerrill@home.com

Hi Listers I have not written for a while. My research has been in the Donaghamoyne Parish and my family is WOODS + DUFFY + BURNS 1800-1862 when my gg grandad left the area for the Middlesbrough area of Yorkshire. OWEN WOODS whose father was OWEN WOODS are the 2 WOODS I have been searching for. I have some info for them b4 1860 including the Tithe Applotments 1823 I accessed the Griffiths Valuation for 1858 for Donaghamoyne Parish at the Boston College Library for Irish Studies a few years back but did not get the townland I thought I needed. I find I need the townland of DRUMMENREAGH also spelt other ways such as..... DRUMMENREAS etc. I have narrrowed down my search to this townland. Was this townland non-existant by 1858? I did get 12 or so other townlands on fiche which I copied. They all have at least one OWEN WOODS and of course other 1st names such as HUGH,THOMAS,BERNARD and of course PATRICK WOODS (OWEN's son and my g grandad) The WOODS family (which I hear were Blacksmiths) fill up DONAGHMOYNE Parish I would love to know my OWEN's siblings names. I'm sure there were brothers and sisters who did not leave to go to England. Is there a KIND SOUL who has a copy of the Griffiths Valuation for this townland of DRUMMENREAGH they can send me? I would so appreciate hearing from a fellow searcher of lost Monaghan people!! TIA Best regards, Brenda Murphy Robicheau brendar@capeonramp.com <<<<<brenda murphy robicheau >>>>>

The surname "Mertha" or "Mentha" or etc., is undoubtedly "Murtha" or originally "Murtagh" -- pronounced "mur-tah," accent on the first syllable. The surname "Murtha/Murtagh" is found in Co. Monaghan records which I have explored. The problem is in reading the tombstones, or old records, in which the records transcriber/tombstone chisler wrote "em as he heard 'em, especially if the transcriber was not Irish but English or in the US something else. I have this surname and sometimes (in Cincinnati, Ohio) it was rendered as "Mertha" or "Merta" because the Irish brogue interferred (and besides, the folks, themselves, often didn't know the "correct" spelling or was there one! The "Carrollan" surname quite possibly might have been rendered "Carolan." or other varietions thereof. Hope this helps. Sally M.

Hi, I am trying to locate information concerning the ancestors of my gggrandfather Thomas Fox. He emigrated to America about 1828. I have recently learned that he may have come from County Monaghan and may have had a brother Michael and a sister Hannah. Both of them emigrated here as well. He located in Newport, Herkimer Co., NY and married there about 1829. Children: John William margaret James Maryann Peter Elizabeth Hannah Katherine Matilde Thomas. Is anyone else familiar with this family? Any suggestions as to the best way to pursue their ancestry? Thanks in advance. Irene

James HEGAN was b. 4 Jun 1848, Tattybrack. He mar. 13 May 1880, Christ's Church, to Eliza "Mary" FAULKNER who was b. 16 Feb 1842, probably in Castleblayney. The couple came to Chico, Butte Co., CA shortly after the wedding date. Looking to find anyone interested in this family....have info to share. Thank you. Ralph Clouse, Sacramento

Short answer is I do not positively know if the list at: http://www.exis.net/ahd/monaghan/irish-names-naming.htm is correct. It was sent to me out of an Irish book - and sadly I did not cite the resource. There are many other pages online with the same order of naming, but they may all be copies of another? There is: http://genealogy.miningco.com/hobbies/genealogy/cs/namingpractices/ on naming patterns for many countries. The irish link goes to my page above. The Scottish link goes to another..... This link: http://irishculture.about.com/culture/irishculture/library/weekly/aa080400a. htm uses either way on the maternal side. Nothing is easy! Ann ______________ Ann Harney DESIGNS http://www.exis.net/ahd/ 757 622-5795 ~ 757 576-4899

Have been unable to locate either of my gggrandmothers' surnames, Mary CRANSBUR (which appears on her gravestone in Granville, NY (DOD 1889)) or Margaret MINTHA or MENTHA or MERTHA (transcribed from a birthcertificate) anywhere in the U.S. or Ireland and am beginning to wonder if they weren't seriously garbled in transit/transcription. Mary CRANSBUR married Michael O'ROURKE and guessing from his age at death we guess she might have been born late 1840's. Margaret MENTHA, wife of Owen FARRELLY, was probably born about 1820 and had at least one child, Mary FARRELLY, in Ballieborough, County Cavan, in 1837. Other family names, including MCGARVEY and CARROLLAN, originated in Carrickmacross, Monaghan, so Cavan and Monaghan are areas we've been searching. Has anyone ever seen the names CRANSBUR or MINTHA or MENTHA in these or any other areas of Ireland or does anyone have any ideas re similar names common to those areas that their surnames might actually have been? Thanks, Beth Callanan WAshington, DC

I am no authority on general trends but my family - John Short (1837) (father John Short - mother Elizabeth ?) & Mary Hely (1835) (father Samuel Hely mother Catherine Kernan) named their children born in OZ Elizabeth Short - fathers mother John Edward Short- Father's father Samuel Annon Short (would this be gaelic for Allen??) mother's father Terence Michael Short ?? Charles Henry Vincent Short ?? Naming patterns in Ireland may have lost importance by the 4th child ! PS does anyone know this family or which townland they came from before they emigrated?? Jenny in OZ ----- Original Message ----- From: judyhw <judyhw@email.msn.com> To: <IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 11:14 AM Subject: IRISH NAMING PATTERNS > Hello, > > Can someone help to clear up some confusion I have regarding Irish naming patterns? I've just recently started my Irish research and am not very knowledgeable. > Ann Harney has listed Irish naming patterns as shown directly below. > > 1. First son: father's father > 2. Second son: mother's father > 3. Third son: father > 4. Fourth son: father's oldest brother > 5. Fifth son: father's second oldest brother or mother's oldest brother > 6. First daughter: mother's mother. > 7. Second daughter: father's mother. > 8. Third daughter: mother > 9. Fourth daughter: mother's oldest sister > 10. Fifth daughter: mother's second oldest sister or father's oldest sister. > > On a recent trip to the LDS Family History Library in Salt Lake City, Utah, an employee told me that the list as shown above is a Scotish naming pattern and not necessarily true for the Irish. She said that Irish naming patterns were more likely to be that the first daughter was named after the father's mother, and the 2nd daughter was named after the mother's mother. > > This information is key to me being able to determine which one of two Denis McGoughs from Donaghmoyne parish was my g g grandfather. > > I appreciate any information you can offer. > > Thank very much. > Judy > > >

Hello, My ancestors are from Cormoy and Rahans, Donaghmoyne, Carrickmacross, Co.Monaghan and neighbouring Parishes. Has anyone any information on: James Callan m. Margaret McEntegart before 1864. James Callan m. Mary Anne Traynor after 1864. Many thanks, Maureen :-)

Most of the assisted emigrants from the Shirley Estate (generally Magheracloone and Magheross civil parishes) were sent to Australia. However, last September I read many of the ghastly petitions to the Shirley Estate agent of the famine time in the Shirley Estate Papers, at PRONI in Belfast, which begged to be sent to a relative in the US/Canada, which they probably were since the passage to the US was cheaper (£3-5) than that to Australia (£15-20) As so many were sent to Australia, one must wonder if the government didn't encourage that in some way, possibly as a rebate to the estate, to not only get these folks well away from Ireland but to help populate this new British possession. Incidentally, families/persons that were selected to go by the Shirley Estate state agent (he picked them) but refused to leave or changed their minds about going were evicted from their home and land; that notation is written on the documents at PRONI. Sally M