Hi all, I am interested in ANY information regarding a Patrick BRADY born Monaghan abt. 1840 according to the 1881 census for County Durham, England . Patrick married a Bridget MEIGHAN in County Durham and at sometime they lived in South Shields in that county. Has anyone got Patrick in their tree, that may be able to assist? Thank in advance, Tony Meighan, Bright, Victoria, Australia.

Lisrace is in Co. Fermanagh, Clones Parish. The CoI in Clones, Co. Monaghan has very early records. Parish is / was split in both counties - and now split by a border..... See: http://www.exis.net/ahd/monaghan/churchregisters.htm Born in Co. Fermanagh, christened in Clones CoI, Co. Monaghan - at the church of their choice? HTH, Ann

You got it right. It is a wee tiny townland on the Parish of Tydavnet border. It is almost due west of Monaghan Town and South of Bellanode, near Annayalty Lough. If you search on Bellanode, Monaghan, Ireland on www.maps.expedia.com and expand the map you will get a feel for it. A parish map is online at: http://www.exis.net/ahd/monaghan/baronies.htm HTH.... Ann

Ann Thank you so very much for answering this for me. I was so thrilled to find my Armstrong family baptisms in the Co. Monaghan records, but found it so confusing when the "Lisreask" or "Lisrace" they were said to be from was in Co. Fermanagh. Unfortunately, although the parish records began in 1682, my family didn't seem to appear until 1796 with the baptism of the first child, so I will have to took elsewhere, possibly somewhere called "Brooksborough" in Co. Fermanagh. Thanks again. Margot

Jim, Another easy one - Corbeg is a townland 78 acres in Tehallan Parish, Co. Monaghan. I guess those who use it often haven't pushed www.seanruad.com enough - it really is THE site to start with when you're looking for a place in Ireland you might suspect is a townland. Tom "James White" <jwhit59@attglobal.net> sur 25/04/2001 20:13:51 Pour : IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com cc : Objet : Martin, Corbeg Monaghan ny help re what/where Corbeg is? Any suggestions re obtaining info on JohnMartin and his forebearers?? Regards, Jim White

Corbeg is in the Civil parish of Tehallen and the Poor Law Union of Monaghan........... the Poor Law Union of Monaghan is nowadays Monaghan Civil Registration District. Depending on the time frame you are interested in and the religion Monaghan Civil registration district may or may not be of some use to you Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "James White" <jwhit59@attglobal.net> To: <IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 7:13 PM Subject: Martin, Corbeg Monaghan > ny help re what/where Corbeg is? Any suggestions re obtaining info on JohnMartin and his forebearers?? > > Regards, Jim White > > >

John, This one is easy - everything is spelled "right". Lisbane is 36 acre townland in Kilmore Parish , Monaghan Co. Check out the www.seanruad.com sight when looking for a townland anywhere in Ireland. Tom Beejay688@aol.com sur 25/04/2001 18:16:04 Pour : IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com cc : Objet : (no subject) I have an 1865 birth register of one of my wifes ancesters. It is written in script and rather difficult to decipher in places. The place of residence is shown as what appears to be LISBANE and underneath that is written what also appears to be P KILMORE. I have been unable to find these places on any map, does anyone recognize thes places or similar spelling. The document shows as being registered in the district of Monaghan in the Union of Monagahan in the county of Monaghan. Any suggestions or assistance would be greatly appreciated. John Wilson. Florida. USA

ny help re what/where Corbeg is? Any suggestions re obtaining info on JohnMartin and his forebearers?? Regards, Jim White

The following people, are listed in the 1880 Slaters Directory for Clogher, Five-Mile-Town and Tedavnet. There are more names to follow. This directory is not indexed alphabetically. Jane I have the names sorted alphabetically and my lines can be broken up into: Surname: Name: Address: Occupation: Abbott David, C., Rev. Five-Mile-Town Gentry & Clergy Ancketell F. M., Esq. Kilafaddy J.P. J. P. - Gentry & Clergy Anketell James K., Esq. Brookvale J.P. J. P. - Gentry & Clergy Anketell James R. Brookvale Land Agent Bailey David Clogher Blacksmiths Bailey W. H., Rev. The Manse Gentry & Clergy Bailey W. R., D.D. Deanery Gentry & Clergy Birney Elisha Rahon town Gentry & Clergy Blakely Samuel Five-Mile-Town M.D. Gentry & Clergy Boylan P.J., Rev. Sallymount Cottage Gentry & Clergy Breen Arthur Brockaugh Gentry & Clergy Browne Thomas R. Aghentain Castle, Five-Mile-Town J.P ? Gentry & Clergy Bryans John Lungs Gentry & Clergy Buchanan Andrew, Mr. Glen?? Gentry & Clergy Burnside William S., Rev. Corcreevy Glebe Gentry & Clergy Busby Thomas Five-Mile-Town Blacksmiths Caldwell William, Esq. Clogher Gentry & Clergy Calgan Michael Five-Mile-Town Butchers Clements Thomas Five-Mile-Town Manure Agent Agents - Miscellaneous Corrigan Patrick J. Tedavnet Manure Agent Agents - Miscellaneous Corrigan Patrick J. Tedavnet Earthenware, Glass & China Dealers Corrigan Owen Clogher Boot & Shoe Maker Corry Thomas Clogher Carpenters & Cart Makers Coulter Gabriel, Rev. Five-Mile-Town Gentry & Clergy Cummins David Carrantaul national School Master Schools Curran Patrick Five-Mile-Town Carpenters & Cart Makers Curry Elizabeth Infants National School Clogher Mistress Schools Dennis Francis Five-Mile-Town Blacksmiths Doherty Patrick Five-Mile-Town Boot & Shoe Maker Du?rnan Wm. Five-Mile-Town Boot & Shoe Maker Elliott George National School Five-Mile-Town Master Schools Elliott Irwin, Mr. Mullysillogh Gentry & Clergy Elliott Nancy National School Five-Mile-Town Mistress Schools Farrell J.J., O.F.C., Esq. Augher Castle J. P Gentry & Clergy Finley Arthur Tedavnet Wheelwright Carpenters & Cart Makers Freeburn John Five-Mile-Town Boot & Shoe Maker Gallagher John W. E., Esq. Clogher Coopers Gillespie James Five-Mile-Town Carpenters & Cart Makers Gillespie Noble Five-Mile-Town Bakers & Flour Dealers Glass Hugh Clogher Boot & Shoe Maker Gledstanes Moutray, Esq. ?Rossford J. P Gentry & Clergy Graham David Five-Mile-Town Commissioner for Taking Affadavits Graham David & Co. Five-Mile-Town Emigration & Manure Agent Agents - Miscellaneous Greer David, Rev. Cavanaleek Gentry & Clergy Greer James, Rev. Clogher Gentry & Clergy Hart Anthony Five-Mile-Town Boot & Shoe Maker Hones Patrick Five-Mile-Town Boot & Shoe Maker Horris John Five-Mile-Town Coopers Hunter Margaret Five-Mile-Town Earthenware, Glass & China Dealers Jervis Francis, Esq. C?ieil Lodge J. P Gentry & Clergy Keenan Francis NationalSchool Tedavnet Master Schools Keenan Thomas Clogher Bakers & Flour Dealers Kelly Bernard Five-Mile-Town Coopers Kelly Edward Five-Mile-Town Boot & Shoe Maker Lendrum John, Mr. Broomhill Gentry & Clergy Macartney John W. E., Esq. The Palace J. P Gentry & Clergy Maguire Edward Five-Mile-Town Boot & Shoe Maker Malcomson James, Rev. Tullinavart Gentry & Clergy M'Aleer James Clogher Bakers & Flour Dealers M'cabe James Clogher Boot & Shoe Maker M'Caffrey Hugh Five-Mile-Town Bakers & Flour Dealers M'Caffry Patrick Clogher Butchers M'Carroll Michael Clogher Blacksmiths M'Cullough James Five-Mile-Town Blacksmiths M'Donald Claude, Esq. Mullaghmore Gentry & Clergy M'Geary Patrick Five-Mile-Town Coopers M'Kenna Patrick Clogher Bakers & Flour Dealers M'Mahon James Five-Mile-Town Butchers M'Nally John Tedavnet Postmaster M'Nulty Thos., Rev. Five-Mile-Town Gentry & Clergy Moan Edward Clogher Blacksmiths Montgomery Hugh de F., Esq Blessingbourn J. P Gentry & Clergy Moutry Henry, Esq. Killybrick J. P Gentry & Clergy Murphy John Clogher Emigration & Manure Agent Agents - Miscellaneous Murphy John Clogher Butchers Murphy Mrs. Clogher Postmistress Clogher Murray Charles Tedavnet Carpenters & Cart Makers Quinn John Clogher Boot & Shoe Maker Ramsey James, Mr. Donaghmoyne Gentry & Clergy Ritchie Thomas Clogher Clerk - Savings Bank Banks Scollan Thomas Five-Mile-Town Boot & Shoe Maker Scott James, Esq. Carrigall Gentry & Clergy Spence George Five-Mile-Town Postmaster Steen Alexander Clogher Earthenware, Glass & China Dealers Stewart C. M. & Co. Five-Mile-Town Bakers & Flour Dealers Storey Wm., Rev. ?Corick Gentry & Clergy Trimble James, Esq. Clogher Gentry & Clergy Twigg Richard, Esq. Ballymagowan Gentry & Clergy Watt James Five-Mile-Town Manager - Northern Banking Co. (Branch) Banks Whitely Richard Five-Mile-Town Blacksmiths Whitley Joseph Five-Mile-Town Manure Agent Agents - Miscellaneous Whitley Samuel Five-Mile-Town Emigration Agent Agents - Miscellaneous

The following is extracted from Slaters Directory for 1880 and because these parts of County Tyrone andCounty Monaghan are so close together I am sending it to both lists. Names from this section of the Directoy will follow. Jane Clogher, Five-Mile-Town and Tedavnet Slater's Directory 1880 Clogher is a small market town, the head of a Diocese and formerly a parliamentary borough, in the barony and parish of it's name, county of Tyrone, 98 miles n.n.w. from Dublin, 9 w. from Aughnacloy and 9 from Fintona, and is a station on the Londonderry and Enniskillen Railway. The town is situated on the road from Aughnacloy to Enniskillen, on the banks of the Blackwater. This ancient Episcopal city, now only a village in appearance, is said to have derived it's name from a stone covered with gold, the 'clogh-ór, or the 'golden stone', which in Pagan times, is reported to have made oracular responses; and there is still a very ancient stone lying on the south side of the catherdral tower, which many believe to be the real clogh-or. The Episcopal palace is a large and handsome edifice, close to the cathedral, on the south side of the town, and consists of a centre and two wings; it is entered by an elegant portico, supported by lofty fluted columns. The erection of the palace was commenced by Lord Beresford, Primate of Armagh, while Bishop of Clogher, and completed by Lord R. P. Tottenham in 1823. The Cathedral dedicated to Saint Macartin, and from time immemorial the parish chuch, is a large and handsome crucible structure, with a lofty square tower, rising from the west front. There are several elegant monuments, besides which the interior is handsomely fitted up. A Roman Catholic Church and a Presbyterian Meetinghouse are the other places of worship. A Union Workhouse and a Dispensary are the principal charities. A court of petty sessions is held every second Tuesday monthly. The market is held on the first Saturday of every month; annual fair is July 26th. Clogher parish contained in 1861, 12,008 inhabitants and in 1871, 11,047, and the town (or city) 242 of the latter number. Five-Mile-Town, or Blessingbourn, is a small market town in the parish and barony of Clogher, county of Tyrone about 7 miles w by s from Clogher, situated on the county lines of Fermanagh county and surrounded by an extremely fertile country. The palce possesses no particular branch of trade; it is however certainly improving, and can boast a very superior hotel and posting establishment. The places of worship are a neat Protestant Episcopal Church, a Presbyterian Meetinghouse, a Primitive Methodist Chapel and a Roman catholic Church. A court of petty sessions is held on the last Thursday monthly. The market is on a Friday. Fairs : 2nd January, 6th February, 5th March, 2nd April, 7th May, 4th June, 2nd July, 3rd September, 1st October, 5th November and 3rd December. Population in 1861, 616 and in 1871, 635. Tedavnet is a small village in the parish of the same names and situated about 8 miles from Monaghan and 7 from Clogher. There is a Roman Catholic Church here, also a National School and a Constabulary Station.

First of all I'd like to welcome new people to this list If you are interested in seeing old posts to the Monaghan list then please go to my website at http://www.from-ireland.net (click on this link) and to the 'For Newbies' page. There you will find instructions re searching list archives. Please check out Anne Harneys Monaghan web site also. http://www.exis.net/ahd/monaghan/ If you would like to post your interests to this list then please do so. To mail the list simply addres your mail to IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com (or click on that link), put your surname interests on the subject line and your interests in the body of the mail. To unsubsribe from this list please sen an email to IRL-MONAGHAN-L-request@rootsweb.com leaving the subject line empty and simply typing unsubscribe in the mail body. Jane

I have an 1865 birth register of one of my wifes ancesters. It is written in script and rather difficult to decipher in places. The place of residence is shown as what appears to be LISBANE and underneath that is written what also appears to be P KILMORE. I have been unable to find these places on any map, does anyone recognize thes places or similar spelling. The document shows as being registered in the district of Monaghan in the Union of Monagahan in the county of Monaghan. Any suggestions or assistance would be greatly appreciated. John Wilson. Florida. USA

Thanks to Tom's last posting, I have found that "Lisrace" is a townland in Co. Fermanagh. The civil parish is Clones. I have recently found some of my Armstrong ancestors on a LDS film which is marked "Parish Register Transcripts, Par. Church, Clones, Monaghan". Would they have been registered in Co. Monaghan because it was the closest Church ? I'd really appreciate some advice on this as I'm now confused - were they born in Co. Monaghan or Co. Fermanagh ? Thanks in advance for any help. Margot Jorgensen

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If SKS has access to the Tithe Applotments for Ballybay &/or Tullycorbet, I would most appreciate a lookup of the names Hamilton, Brown & Neilson. Alexander Hamilton b. 18 Mar 1770 (Alexander, Jane & family emigrated to Peel Co., Ontario, Canada) m. Jane Brown b. c1787 children: Martha b. 20 Feb 1807 Elizabeth Jane Mary Alexander b. 4 Apr 1819 Ann Robert Margaret b. 1824 Sophia b. 1827 The parents of Alexander Hamilton were: Alexander Hamilton b. c1742 Martha Neilson b. c1747 m. 25 Sep 1767 in Ballybay Children: John 21 b. Sep 1768 Alexander b. 18 Mar 1770 James b. 16 Mar 1774 Isaiah b. 5 Oct 1776 Joseph b. 25 Jun 1784 Martha b. 3 Feb 1788 Martha b. 19 Dec 1791 Joan Hunter Essex, Ontario Canada

In case this was missed on the PEI list. The song refers to settlers in Queen's County PEI, from Kelly's Cross and Emyvale in Monaghan. Note that lot 30 contain the Treaugh Dist and the settlement of Kelly's Cross and next to lot 30, perhaps 2 miles away, is lot 65 with the settlement of Emyvale. Those families can be seen in the Meacham's 1880 Atlas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bev-Wayne Stinde" <bwstinde@net66.com> To: <IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 1:11 PM Subject: Re Song about County Monaghan > To those that asked for the origin ect of the song, > > My wife and I were in County Monaghan last summer and staying in the little village of Knochatallon, and our host invited us and we attended an Irish music session that evening. It was held in an old country school house no longer in use, and the musicians were all teenagers. The name of the band was "Barratitoppy Ceili Band". One of the young ladies sang "The Little Hills of Monaghan" during this session and later gave us, their guest, one of their tapes. It was a great time. > But I have no knowledge of the song. I came up with the words by listening to the tape, which was not an easy task due to the little girls Irish Brogue. Maybe someone on the list will be able to help? Wayne > > > > The little hills of Monaghan are often on my mind > > > > The folk that left there long ago and the land they left behind > > > > My home is on Prince Edward's Isle > > > > My thoughts go back each day > > > > To the little hills of Monaghan they seem so far away > > > > My Granddad came from Kelly's Cross Grandma from Emyvale > > > > They wed in Ballylischa before the boat set sail > > > > To find Prince Edward's Island just off the far land shore > > > > They said farewell to Ireland and friends they'd see no more > > > > > > But I'm third generation and my dreams have all come true > > > > I'm back again in Monaghan among my friends in Trough > > > > I have seen the Rocky Mountains looked down Niagara Falls > > > > The little hills of Monaghan are the grandest sight of all > > > > > > I've often heard my Granddad tell of how it all began > > > > The letter sent by Father Pat to his home in Monaghan > > > > From the parish of Prince Edward's Isle they told us how they planned > > > > To give a home to those who come to plow and till the land > > > > So the Traynors and the McKennas the Kellys and the McMahans > > > > They said farewell and then set sail never to return again > > > > For 14 weeks they traveled through winter storm and gale > > > > Until they reached Prince Edward's Isle and their new home Emyvale > > > > > > But I'm third generation and my dreams have all come true > > > > I'm back again in Monaghan among my friends in Trough > > > > I have seen the Rocky Mountains looked down Niagara Falls > > > > The little hills of Monaghan are the grandest sight of all > > > > > > > > >

To those that asked for the origin ect of the song, My wife and I were in County Monaghan last summer and staying in the little village of Knochatallon, and our host invited us and we attended an Irish music session that evening. It was held in an old country school house no longer in use, and the musicians were all teenagers. The name of the band was "Barratitoppy Ceili Band". One of the young ladies sang "The Little Hills of Monaghan" during this session and later gave us, their guest, one of their tapes. It was a great time. But I have no knowledge of the song. I came up with the words by listening to the tape, which was not an easy task due to the little girls Irish Brogue. Maybe someone on the list will be able to help? Wayne > The little hills of Monaghan are often on my mind > > The folk that left there long ago and the land they left behind > > My home is on Prince Edward's Isle > > My thoughts go back each day > > To the little hills of Monaghan they seem so far away > > My Granddad came from Kelly's Cross Grandma from Emyvale > > They wed in Ballylischa before the boat set sail > > To find Prince Edward's Island just off the far land shore > > They said farewell to Ireland and friends they'd see no more > > > But I'm third generation and my dreams have all come true > > I'm back again in Monaghan among my friends in Trough > > I have seen the Rocky Mountains looked down Niagara Falls > > The little hills of Monaghan are the grandest sight of all > > > I've often heard my Granddad tell of how it all began > > The letter sent by Father Pat to his home in Monaghan > > From the parish of Prince Edward's Isle they told us how they planned > > To give a home to those who come to plow and till the land > > So the Traynors and the McKennas the Kellys and the McMahans > > They said farewell and then set sail never to return again > > For 14 weeks they traveled through winter storm and gale > > Until they reached Prince Edward's Isle and their new home Emyvale > > > But I'm third generation and my dreams have all come true > > I'm back again in Monaghan among my friends in Trough > > I have seen the Rocky Mountains looked down Niagara Falls > > The little hills of Monaghan are the grandest sight of all > > >

Wayne (and all others on the MONAGHAN List): Do you know the source of this song? All my Canadian HAGAN ancestors lived in and about Kelly's Cross & Emyvale PEI. I know there is/was Emyvale & Errigal Trough in County Monaghan. Is/was there also a Kelly's Cross in Monaghan? Thanks, Patrick Hagan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bev-Wayne Stinde" <bwstinde@net66.com> To: <IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 10:15 PM Subject: Song about Co. Monaghan I thought this song might be of interest to some of you. Correct me if all of the words are not right. I had to guess on some of the place names. Enjoy, Wayne The Little Hills of Monaghan The little hills of Monaghan are often on my mind The folk that left there long ago and the land they left behind My home is on Prince Edward's Isle My thoughts go back each day To the little hills of Monaghan they seem so far away My Granddad came from Kelly's Cross Grandma from Emyvale They wed in Ballylischa before the boat set sail To find Prince Edward's Island just off the far land shore They said farewell to Ireland and friends they'd see no more But I'm third generation and my dreams have all come true I'm back again in Monaghan among my friends in Trough I have seen the Rocky Mountains looked down Niagara Falls The little hills of Monaghan are the grandest sight of all I've often heard my Granddad tell of how it all began The letter sent by Father Pat to his home in Monaghan From the parish of Prince Edward's Isle they us told how they planned To give a home to those who come to plow and till the land So the Traynors and the McKennas the Kellys and the McMahans They said farewell and then set sail never to return again For 14 weeks they traveled through winter storm and gale Until they reached Prince Edward's Isle and their new home Emyvale But I'm third generation and my dreams have all come true I'm back again in Monaghan among my friends in Trough I have seen the Rocky Mountains looked down Niagara Falls The little hills of Monaghan are the grandest sight of all

I thought this song might be of interest to some of you. Correct me if all of the words are not right. I had to guess on some of the place names. Enjoy, Wayne The Little Hills of Monaghan The little hills of Monaghan are often on my mind The folk that left there long ago and the land they left behind My home is on Prince Edward’s Isle My thoughts go back each day To the little hills of Monaghan they seem so far away My Granddad came from Kelly’s Cross Grandma from Emyvale They wed in Ballylischa before the boat set sail To find Prince Edward’s Island just off the far land shore They said farewell to Ireland and friends they’d see no more But I’m third generation and my dreams have all come true I’m back again in Monaghan among my friends in Trough I have seen the Rocky Mountains looked down Niagara Falls The little hills of Monaghan are the grandest sight of all I’ve often heard my Granddad tell of how it all began The letter sent by Father Pat to his home in Monaghan From the parish of Prince Edward’s Isle they us told how they planned To give a home to those who come to plow and till the land So the Traynors and the McKennas the Kellys and the McMahans They said farewell and then set sail never to return again For 14 weeks they traveled through winter storm and gale Until they reached Prince Edward’s Isle and their new home Emyvale But I’m third generation and my dreams have all come true I’m back again in Monaghan among my friends in Trough I have seen the Rocky Mountains looked down Niagara Falls The little hills of Monaghan are the grandest sight of all