Patric HAUGHEY wife Mary CORBEY children Michael, Patrick, Jennie, Annie from Hilton Demense Monaghan. Immigrated to US and settled in Wisconsin then Minnesota. Any information would be appreciated

MCMAHON, Francis (Frank) m. Anne DUFFY bef 1860, children Patrick, Mary Ann, and Ellen. Believed to have lived in Gragernagh. Both Frank and Anne died in County Monaghan (Gragernagh?) between 1888-1890. BOYLE, Michael m. Mary Ellen BANIGAN bet 1859-1861, children Patrick, Peter, Michael and Felix. Lived in Ballybay area. Both immigrated to the U.S.A. in 1886, lived and died in West Warwick, Rhode Island in 1899 & 1898 respectively.

My g grandmother was Elizabeth McKENNA b.ca.1865 Monaghan. Her parents were: James McKENNA of the "Brianies McKENNA's" and he was b.ca.1833 and d. 10 Nov 1903. He was a shoemaker in the village. He had 4 bros and 1 sis, and his mother was Mary McMEEL(her sister m. Patrick McKENNA, bro of my g. grandma Elizabeth). He was m. to Bridget McKENNA of the "Ross McKENNA's" and she was b.ca.1835 and d.bef 1901 census. She was a midwife and herb doctor there. I surely need more data on my Elizabeth and her parents.....if you know of any data in relation to this McKENNA line please let me know.....thanks. Happy Trails, Joan in rural MT Also, visit my 4 personal home pages on spirituality and genealogy: http://www.geocities.com/crystalwoman_2000/ crystalwoman@in-tch.com

John GOUGH, Sr. b abt 1790 1st wife unknown Known Children: Mary b abt 1823, Ireland Eliza b abt 1827, Ireland James b March 17, 1829 Castleblayney, Co. Monaghan John b abt 1830, Ireland William b abt 1840, Ireland Margaret b abt 1843, Ireland Robert b abt 1848, Ireland Sarah E. b abt 1855, Mercer Co., PA Samuel b abt 1858, Mercer Co., PA John Sr's 2nd wife was Jane DIXON( b Ireland) and I know for sure that the last 3 children listed above were hers, and maybe William and Margaret also. James, with Mary and Eliza came to NY from Newry on the "Brothers" in June 1851. John, Sr. ( and family, I presume) shipped from Liverpool to NY in January 1852. (ship unknown) John, Jr shipped from Liverpool to NY in April 1851. (ship unknown) Family "story" says that John was a constable (where?) and was seeing his sisters off on ship to US (where one or both were to get married) and ended up getting stuck on ship. Mary did marry an Alexander McKnight (b Co. Armagh) in Mercer Co., PA. This family's history in Co. Monaghan is one (G) of my brickwalls. Would appreciate any info.....Pamela GATES HARTMAN

In 1822, my ggg grandmother ELIZA BELL from Co. Monaghan married Robert Klock in Hull, Quebec. Eliza was born in 1800, her brother SAMUEL BELL, born 1808 and a sister MARGARET BELL born 1817. Immigration to Canada likely happened between 1817 and 1822 but I have not been able to find a passenger list to verify this. It is possible there are more siblings. Margaret married William Kenney at Bytown in 1842. Samuel married late in life and had no children. All three lived and died in the Hull/Aylmer/Ottawa area. I am interested in connecting with other Bells from Monaghan and hope to find parents and home town for this family. I can find no indication from whence in Monaghan the family came so this is a major challenge. The families belonged to the Anglican church. June

In 1913 Jane KELLY GIVAN BAILIE(b. abt.1860, Co., Kildare) was living at "the Porch" inCastleblaney, Co., Monaghan. Her husband, Robert Ellis BAILIE (1851-1911)was born in Co. Louth near Shortstone. In the late 1920s their son, Robert John Ellis BAILIE still owned property in Co., Louth. The Bailies lived for a while in Dublin where Robert Ellis Bailie worked as a soliciter and then setteled in Castleblaney. Cathy

Am researching in Monaghan Co., Clontibret Parish, Patterson from Cornabrandy and Groves from Letterbane. Andrew Patterson died about 1883 and his wife, Margaret Irene Groves and six children emigrated to Nebraska, USA from 1883 to 1892. Searching for parents and sibblings of both of these families.

My apologies.......I forgot the address in my roll call mail IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com

It's been a while since we had a roll call on this list and there are new subscribers. Roll Call is simply a way of letting others know what names from which part of the county you are interested in - or a means of finding out where in a county those names have been found in records or that other people know of. So, if you click on the email address for this list and then write your surname/s in the subject line and write whatever you know about your family - you may find that someone is searching for a name on your tree and will reply to you. I would actually appreciate it if people would reply to the list as well as any individual - other names mentioned may be of interest to someone elsre - or place names - you never know until you try. Thanks. Jane

Tithe Applotment Books Tithes were an income tax on farming..usually about one tenth of the annual income. These were used for the upkeep of the Church of Ireland and were paid from the time of the Reformation. Before the Composition Act of 1823 it was possible to pay them in kind in stead of money. From the time of the Composition Act they were supposed to be paid in cash..and Tithe surveys were carried out in each Parish to assess what the income for that parish would be. Two people were appointed by each parish to carry out this assessment. Both Catholics and Protestants resented this tax - Tax was not payable on all land, and there was even variation on the types of land from place to place. >From 1736 grazing land had an exemption - this was usually land held by landlords. Certain crops were taxable, others weren't. Potatoes could be taxable in one parish and not in the one next door. Tithe books are not comprehensive, people who did not hold land are not listed and some types of land were passed over absolutely. Towns and cities were usually not asssesed. They are arranged by townland and usually give the acreage held by each farmer. However, note here that the measurement used was the plantation or Irish acre which differs in size from the imperial or English acre used in the Griffiths Valuation. The information you get from the Tithe Books is simple, : townland name; landholders name; area of land and tithes paid. Some will list the landlords name as well. The original tithe books for the 26 counties of the Republic of Ireland are held in the National Archives in Dublin. Those for the 6 counties of Northern Ireland were transferred to the PRONI in Belfast. Copies remain in Dublin in the National Archives and National Library. Tithe Defaulters: Both Catholics and Protestants objected to paying of Tithes. 1830 Catholic Parishoners in Graiguenamanagh in Co. Kilkenny withheld their tithes. 1832 they were followed by those in most parts of south Leinster and Munster and violence erupted - The 'Tithe War'. Church of Ireland Ministers therefore ended up without this money during 1831. It was necessary for them in order to claim from the Clergy Relief Fund to draw up a list of Parishoners who had defaulted on the Tithes. 499 Lists/Schedules of Defaulters were submitted in order to avail of the relief fund. 127 of these still survive. - Lists of Tithe Defaulters...not written up alphabetically, and it is necessary to go through each book for each county and for some there are a number of books. 53 of these books relate to Kilkenny; 30 to Tipperary; some coverage of Laois, Carlow, Offaly, Meath, Cork, Kerry , Limerick, Louth Waterford and Wexford. Quaker records show lists of those who defaulted on Tithes also.

Griffiths Primary Valuation This valuation records every landowner and householder in Ireland in a period shortly after the famine. An Act was passed in 1826 allowed for a uniform valuation of property in al Ireland for levying of county cess charges and grand Jury Rates. Thus began an assessment f the whole country, county by county by Sir Richard Griffith.. Amendments were passed to the 1826 Act, the first in 1831 excluded those houses under the annual valuation of £3, another in 1836 excluded house under £5 The information given in the Griffiths gives: the townland address and householders name; the name of the person from whom the property is leased; a description of the property; the acreage and the valuation. If a surname was common in an area then the surveyors adopted the practise of indicating the fathers name to show the difference between two people of the same Christian name and surname..(usually) So Tadgh O'Brien (Michael) is the son of Michael O'Brien and Tadgh O'Brien (James) is the son of James O'Brien. However, here in Ireland people of the same name could/can be distinguished simply by indicating the colour of their hair (as gaeilge - thru Irish ) so it would have been sufficient here to indicate that one Tadgh had red hair and one Tadgh black - calling them respectively Tadgh (Red) O'Brien and Tadgh (Black) O'Brien To confuse those who come in search of ancestors has always been the ambition of the very Ancestors The main difference between the Tithe Applotment Books and the Griffiths Valuation is that all householders were listed in Griffiths. Remember the different types of acres used in each, the Irish and English acre..this will account for differnce in size of land held by a family from one valuation to the other I they appear in both. Remember also the fact that the house of less than £3 annual value were included up to the year 1831 and excluded from that point forward, and those with an annual value of £5 were included up to 1836 and excluded from then on. Many refer to the Griffiths CD, which is handy enough to track a surname through the country.or to find some places in counties where the name occurs. However, this is a list of names for the county, there is no way of knowing if the six John O'Leary's listed for one county are one and the same or if all the land is held by John O'Leary and rented out to others. One problem I personally have noted with the griffiths CD is that while it is suppposed to have been transcribed from the originals - the place names are not as they should be in many instances. There are placenames in there which while I know them from the originals - are not the same as actually written in the Griffiths valuation books. This I assume is because these were written up by people with little or no knowledge of Irish geography or Irish phonetics. So that while they transcribed what they thought they saw..because of faded ink or poor script - the actual name might be quite different.if it was someone with a knowledge of either Irish phonetics or the geography of the area they would have written a different word as the place name. This is not a huge error to anyone who does know the geography of the area they are enquiring about, but for anyone who hasn't got a clue it's a different story. There is an index to the surnames occurring in the Griffiths Valuation. The indices are made up by county..divided into baronies, parishes, townlands. There are two sections to an index and some counties have a number of volumes covering the whole county.e.g. Co. Cork has three. Each index is divided into two sections, the first being an alphabetical list of surnames occurring in the area the index covers and the names that occur in each Barony. The second section is an alphabetical list of surnames occurring in each parish within that barony. It doesn't matter if you don't know which Barony the parish you are looking for is in - you just check through the second section. It doesn't matter even if you don't know the parish you can just check the first section to see where the name occurred in a county.. The index to the surnames tells you how many times a surname occurreed in a particular parish and whether or not that surname also occurred in the Tithe books. It does not give you any more information than that. The Householders Index with their LDS-FHC film numbers: Antrim Armagh, Carlow, Cavan LDS film # 0919001 Clare, Cork, Londonderry LDS film # 0919002 Donegal, Down Dublin LDS Film # 0919003 Fermanagh, Galway Kerry, Kildare, Kilkeny LDS film # 0919004 Laois, Leitrim, Limerick, Longford, Louth, Mayo, Meath LDS film # 0919005 Monaghan, Offaly, Roscommon, Sligo, Tipperary LDS film # 09119006 Tyrone, Waterford, Westmeath, Wexford, Wicklow LDS film # 0919007 Valuation Office Records The Valuation office was set up to carry out the original Primary Valuation. It is still in existance and has in its possession the original set of notebooks used by the Griffiths Valuation surveyors These are the field books, the house books and tthe tenure books. All 3 have maps which indicate the holding they refer to. Field Books: Information on the size & quality of a holding House Books: Occupiers name and measurement of any buildings Tenure Books: Annual rent paid and legal basis - whether by lease or at will, also the year of any lease. These notebooks also document any changes in occupation between the initial survey and the final published survey. The valuation office also holds the 'Cancelled' or 'revision' Land Books and Current Land Books. The Cancelled land books are similar to those of the published valuation but observations made are handrwritten in on these. The observations can show whether the size or physical structure of the holding were altered, also the changes in the name of the landlord or occupier..this can show death or emigration for a particular year. Changes may have been noted up to a few years after the actual change. It is best to go to the original earlier years and work your way forward with these because the actual numbers of lots can have changed over the years because of lots being broken up or joined together. The Land Commission was created by the 1881 Land Act. Initially is was created to determine fair rents but its main purpose became to assist tenants to purchase their property. A Congested Districts Board was set up in 1891 and this had a similar function, but it was abolished by the Irish Govt. in 1923 and its powere transfered to the Land Comission. So, in the latter part of the 19thC and the early part of the 20thC people who occupied land were able to buy that land. You will see an entry in the cancelled boks showing (In Fee) meaning that the occupier was now the owner. Also, on these you may see LAP.Land Act Purchase stamped on an entry, meaning that the occupier had been assisted in by the Lands Commissoin to purchase the land. The cancelled books for the 26 counties are held in Dublin in the Valuation Office while those for the 6 counties of Northern Ireland are held in the PRONI in Belfast. Those in Dublin are bound together by year in large volumes, the oldest being at the back (oldest = Griffiths) Those in Belfast are not bound and have to be asked for separately and are only available up to the 1930's. The related maps are also held in the Valuatoin Office. These are Ordnance Survey Sheets onto hwhich the property boundaries were drawn. Changes in holdings are also indicated on the maps.

SHEVLIN, Denis, Patrick, Thomas, Margaret and Catherine Rice Shevlin who left Monaghan during the famine and came to New York. they were blacksmiths here in the States.

Joseph (b. abt 1772) & Jane (b. 1782 maiden name possibly AIKENS) HUNTER emigrated from Co. Monaghan to Toronto & Chinguacousy Twps., Ontario, Canada, abt 1830. Children: James b. 1799 m. Eliza ANDERSON Elizabeth b. abt 1801 m. Thomas Pringle LUNDY Nancy b. abt 1805 m. William OLIVER David b. Apr 1807 m. Jane HAMILTON Joseph b. 10 May 1810 m. Margaret SCOTT Sarah b. abt 1814 m. John NELSON of Corvally Nathaniel b. Bet. Jan - Aug 1816 m. Margaret HAMILTON of Ballybay William b. abt 1817 m. Rachel SMITH Mary b. abt 1819 m. John SCOTT Charlotte b. 1821 m. James SCOTT Thomas b. Jul 1823 m. Sarah Unwin REEVE John b. 14 Jul 1825 m. Amelia LUNDY George (unknown) possibly one other child

Seeing Jane's notes on the Tithes and Griffith's reminds me of a note I give to anyone who asks me to research a name that immigrated before Griffith's The purpose of a name search in the index of Griffith's Valuation will do five things for the wise researcher. 1. It will tell him what part of Cavan a name appears in both the Valuation of the 1850's and 1860's and the Tithes of the 1820's and 1830's. 2. In the Griffith's it will tell how many time the last name appears and if but not how many times in the Tithes Applotment. 3. It will in both the Valuation and the Tithes usually tell you who he leases from so a later search of Estate Records can be done. 4. It will allow a researcher to look forward from the Spinning Wheel (1796) thru the Tithes period (1820's and 1830's) and into Griffith's (1860's) time frame. So if a name is in a location in 1796 and 1825 and in 1860 but your guy left in 1840 than any parish showing the name in Griffith's won't have to go thru a church records search. The advantage to the researcher is he can now eliminate many of those parish church records that take the most amount of time to search and concentrate only on the areas that showed the family had left by the time of the Griffith's. 5. And as a bonus all the maps are in Griffith's Allen Temple Beagan http://members.tripod.com/~Al_Beagan/start.htm researching Beagan and McCabe in Cavan Beagan and Trainor in Monaghan Chevallier and Knight in Jersey Beagan, Knight, Brace, Chancey in NFLD Beagan, Power and Trainor in PEI

Alexander HAMILTON (b. abt 1742) m. 25 Sep 1767 in Ballybay, Co. Monaghan, Martha NEILSON (b. abt 1747). Children: John b. 21 Sep 1768 Alexander Jr. b. 18 Mar 1770 James b. 16 Mar 1774 Isaiah b. 5 Oct 1776 Joseph b. 25 Jun 1784 Martha b. 3 Feb 1788 Martha b. 19 Dec 1791 Alexander HAMILTON Jr. m. abt 1806 Jane BROWN (b. abt 1787 in Edenafirkin, Co. Monaghan). They emigrated to Toronto Twp., Ontario, abt 1830 with their 10 children: Martha b. 20 Feb 1807 m. ??? PEARSON Elizabeth b. abt 1813 m. William BURGESS Jane b. abt 1815 m. David HUNTER Mary b. abt 1817 m. Thomas(?) COTTON Alexander b. 4 Apr 1819 m. Jane McLOCHLON Ann b. abt 1821 m1. John LUNDY m2 George LYONS Robert b. abt 1823 m. Ann GRAHAM Margaret b. Bet. Jan - Aug 1824 m. Nathaniel HUNTER Sophia b. 1827 m. Eli HYMAN John b. abt 1829 m. Waity TEETER

We are interested in the Callaghans and Sharkeys of Tydavnet/Tedavnet parish of Monaghan. Bernard Callaghan and Margaret Sharkey produced Edward Callaghan in either 1827 or 1833; Edward emigrated to the U.S. and after a teaching career with the Christian Bros. he married Catherine Cassidy (of Kilrea, Co. Derry) in Chicago in 1881. Edward opened a grocery on the West Side, sired 5 children and died in 1895. Any information or insight welcome. Jim O'Callahan (how we lost the "g" and gained the "O' " I do not know; perhaps someone can explain.)

Hugh Keenan b. ca 1833; >US ca 1850; parents may have been Thomas and Ann Keenan John Sloan m. Elizabeth Eccles; dau Mary Jane Sloan b.ca 1835;>US Will swap any helpful information Carole and Fred Kopser

MARTIN connections shown below. Thomas H. LARKIN (born 1803 in Cty Monaghan) & used WILSON as a middle name for his children & that carried down through 4 generations. He married Ellen McGOUGH born 1808, possibly of Balybay. LARKIN McGOUGH line of descent shown below the MARTIN line. Other surnames through marriage. Descendants of Edward Martin ( died 1837) 1 Edward MARTIN Born: Bet. 1750 to 1770 native of Parish of Killanny, Co Monahan Ireland Emigration: 1824 Died: 15 Feb 1837 Boston area of MA Burial: Bunker Hill cemetery (was grave later moved?) .. +??? possibly McCullough,Gargan or GARLAND Died: UNKNOWN ... did she come to USA ??? .2 Bridget MARTIN Born: Ireland Died: Ireland (married there & stayed) ..... 3 Mary MARTIN born Ireland Died: of Chelsea, MA ......... +??? LINES .2 Margaret MARTIN Died: Lowell, MA ..... +??? LONG .2 Mary MARTIN Died: of NYC ..... +??? MCCLEY .2 Michael MARTIN Died: 1840 ..... 3 Catherine MARTIN Died: Charleston, MA ......... +Terrence MCELHANEY .2 Bryan MARTIN Born: 15 May 1799 near Carrickmacross, County Monaghan, Ireland Emigration: 3 Jun 1826 Port of Boston Died: 17 Mar 1865 Charleston, MA Burial: Bunker Hill cemetery ..... +Catherine MCMAHON ..... 3 Elizabeth MARTIN Born: Abt. 1813 County Monaghan, Ireland Died: 2 Jul 1873 Boston, MA Burial: Calvary cemetery in Dorchester ......... +William Coleman TURNER ..... 3 Dennis MARTIN Born: Abt. 1823 Ireland Died: 30 Aug 1898 Pawtucket, RI, USA Burial: 1898 Old St Mary's in Pawtucket ......... +Agnes D. LAFFERTY Born: 1822 Glasgow, Scotland Emigration: Bef. 1854 Scotland? Father: Danell Lafferty Mother: Agnes Unknown Died: 1907 Pawtucket, RI, USA Burial: 1907 Old St Mary's in Pawtucket ..... 3 Thomas MARTIN Born: Abt. 1830 MA Died: 30 Mar 1905 Cambridge, MA Burial: 1 Apr 1905 Old Cambridge City Cemetery ..... 3 James MARTIN Born: Abt. 1831 Died: 14 Mar 1904 Chelsea, MA ......... +Bridget UNKNOWN Born: Abt. 1842 Married: 14 Feb 1868 MA Died: 28 Mar 1903 Chelsea, MA ..... 3 Edward MARTIN Died: UNKNOWN Residence in California in 1865 .2 Patrick MARTIN Born: Abt. 1802 Died: 21 May 1840 Charleston, MA ..... 3 Edward MARTIN Born: Abt. 1835 Died: 5 Mar 1909 Charleston, MA .2 Thomas MARTIN Born: Abt. 1805 County Monaghan, Ireland Died: 1835 Charleston, MA .2 James MARTIN Born: Abt. 1810 Killanny, County Monaghan, Ireland Died: 12 Aug 1872 Barre, MA ..... +Mary MCDERMOTT Born: Abt. 1818 Ireland Married: 26 Apr 1843 Worcester, MA Mother: Mary McMahon Died: 26 Dec 1896 Athol, MA ..... 3 Edward F. MARTIN Born: 28 Jan 1844 Barre, MA Died: 6 Sep 1903 Athol, MA Burial: St John's RC Cemetery, Worcester, MA Military service: Civil War POW Andersonville ; later a RC priest in Athol, MA ..... 3 Martha A. MARTIN Born: Feb 1850 Barre, MA Died: 10 Sep 1916 Sommerville, MA Burial: St John's in Worcester, NE corner of cemetery LARKIN / McGOUGH Descendants of Thomas H. Larkin (1803-1877) 1 Thomas H. LARKIN Born: Jul 1803 County Monaghan, Ireland ??? Emigration: Bef. 1847 from Ireland Died: 27 Dec 1877 Pawtucket, RI, USA Burial: Old St Mary's in Pawtucket .. +Ellen MCGOUGH Born: 1808 Ballybay, County Monaghan, Ireland Emigration: Bef. 1847 Ireland Married: Ballybay, IRE ?? or Whitechapel, London, ENG?? Died: 16 May 1879 Pawtucket, RI, USA Burial: Old St Mary's in Pawtucket . 2 Elizabeth LARKIN Born: Pawtucket, RI Died: Pawtucket, RI . 2 Mary Ann LARKIN Born: Pawtucket, RI ..... +Francis "Frank" MURPHY . 2 Margarett LARKIN Born: Pawtucket, RI ..... +William KELLY . 2 James W. LARKIN Born: 27 Apr 1847 Pawtucket, RI, USA Died: 2 Feb 1907 Pawtucket, RI, USA Burial: #1232 Mount Saint Mary Military service: 1876 COLONEL, 5th Inf, 2 Bde, RI Militia ..... +Catherine E. MARTIN Born: 12 Dec 1854 Pawtucket, RI, USA Married: 5 Sep 1876 St Mary's Church, Pawtucket, RI Father: Dennis Martin Mother: Agnes D. Lafferty Died: 4 Aug 1928 Pawtucket, RI, USA Burial: #1232 Mount Saint Mary . 2 Thomas H. LARKIN Born: 1849 Pawtucket, RI Died: 1910 Pawtucket, RI Burial: Old st Mary's in Pawtucket ..... +Mary Ann GOODFELLOW Born: 1849 MA? Father: John Goodfellow Mother: Mary J. Unknown Died: 1923 Pawtucket, RI, USA Burial: Old St Mary's in Pawtucket . 2 Peter F. LARKIN Born: 1851 Pawtucket,RI Died: 2 Dec 1906 Pawtucket Burial: Old St Mary's in Pawtucket ..... +Margaret HUGHES Born: Abt. 1854 RI Married: 20 Sep 1883 Father: James P. Hughes Mother: Bridget Unknown Died: 1940 Pawtucket, RI, USA Burial: Old St Mary's in Pawtucket

I am searching Mary Ann Pepper of Clones Monaghan b 1810 Owen McGreavey and Mary Stanton of Cty Mayo circa 1830 Jim Brennan in Corunna Ont. Can a son of 2 BHC (John Brannan and Kate Fincher) Jane Lyons wrote: > My apologies.......I forgot the address in my roll call mail > > IRL-MONAGHAN-L@rootsweb.com

This is Nancy Praetzel from Northern Calif. seeking to find info about McCabe and Burns families from Greaghlone, along border with Cavan.