All, I am looking for the same records for the name Windr*m, and would appreciate any listings from 1820 to 1890 (actually as far back as available). Thanks Ralph Dr. Ralph W. Wyndrum Jr. LFIEEE CEO Executive Engineering Consultants President, IEEE-USA Innovation Institute, Washington, DC 2006 President, IEEE-USA 2008 Chair Elect, American Ass'n of Engineering Societies, Washington, DC Ph: 732-219-0005; fax: -0006; Cell 732-809-3811 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Welch" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 5:31 PM Subject: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Clones Parish Records > Does anyone have an indexed copy of the Clones Parish Records? > > I am seeking the births & townlands listed in the births/baptisms of 3 > individuals all born between 1800 & 1825. All joined the British Army in > late summer or fall, 1840. > > Philip Murray > James Really > Michael McCraedy > > Please bear in mind that the spellings are undoubtedly English variations > of Irish names. > > Thank you so much for your assistance, > Rob > Scottsdale, AZ, USA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Does anyone have an indexed copy of the Clones Parish Records? I am seeking the births & townlands listed in the births/baptisms of 3 individuals all born between 1800 & 1825. All joined the British Army in late summer or fall, 1840. Philip Murray James Really Michael McCraedy Please bear in mind that the spellings are undoubtedly English variations of Irish names. Thank you so much for your assistance, Rob Scottsdale, AZ, USA

Hello Ann, Thank you for the link about the free book about PEI. I am not from there or anything but my boss is named MURPHY from PEI so I thought I would take a gander at it. He couldn't care less about genealogy and says the only think Irish about him is his liver. I wanted to check out the Co. Monaghan immigrants to see if there were any Gibney's. You said it was on page 150. I can only read to page 140 and it tells me that I am not allowed anymore. Would you mind checking for me and see if there are any GIBNEY's. Thank you Pauline Ontario Canada

There was an large emigration from County Monaghan assisted by the parish priest, Rev. Patrick Moynagh, pp of Donagh. McCabe is a very common name there. A book on books.google.com is about PEI and the settlers. _Exiles and Islanders: The Irish Settlers of Prince Edward Island_, by Brendan O'Grady. It is a rich source of family history for the north of Ireland. I searched on County Monaghan Prince Edward Island to find this book which is almost all online. Pg 150 mentions Rev. Moynagh. Many from other parishes followed the Donagh emigrants. It also mentions Co. Monaghan Irish that lived in Glasgow and emigrated to PEI. Loads of names there including other counties on pgs 151-2. Read on it is interesting. Start with the Contents page. Good read... The PEI searchable online databases is great for Monaghan and area people.. http://www.gov.pe.ca/cca/index.php3?number=1006228&lang=E Happy hunting... Ann

Jackie, Thanks for looking at your Woods and Duffy etc, no they dont sound like part of my Murphy Woods Duffy from Monaghan.Thanks anyway. Julie from `over the water`

Julie, I think now when I look at my Ballybay names it is a little misleading. Variants of MOHAN were born in Ballybay but married ladies who were not actually born in Ballybay. John MOAN from Ballybay, married Elizabeth DUFFY from Edenanane in R. C. Chapel in Ballybay, 1874 (As is written on the marriage cert.) George Patrick MOHAN from Ballybay, married Elizabeth WOODS from Magheross in 1901 in Carrickmacross. He is the eldest son of John. Jackie, Storing memory - no problem Retrieving memory - big problem OPC for North Bovey. Researching: Devon: FROST, GITSHAM, HARRIS, HOWARD, ROWLAND. Ballybay, Co.Monaghan: DUFFY, HAND, MOAN(E), MOEN, MOGHAN, MOHAN, WOODS. N. Yorks: BRANSLEY, EASBY, RUTHERFORD, THOMPSON, WALKER. Northants: DAY, GRIFFIN(G), NUTT, PITTS, UNDERWOOD, WADE. Shropshire: ALLART, DAVIES, GRIFFITHS, JONES, MANSELL, PITTS Anywhere: MOAN(E), MOEN, MOGHAN, MOHAN, MOHUN. Protected by www.SpamJab.com {NYvf5yYjM3TGB5C1dg] [email protected] wrote: > Dear Jackie, > > I noticed that your searching, names and places, coincides with some of my > family. Duffy and Woods, also ballybay? I also have some Murphys in Co > Monaghan, I wonder if they might be connected? > > Julie Perry (Woods) from over the water! > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Dear Jackie, I noticed that your searching, names and places, coincides with some of my family. Duffy and Woods, also ballybay? I also have some Murphys in Co Monaghan, I wonder if they might be connected? Julie Perry (Woods) from over the water!

OMG...... I really was not looking for the over whelming response I got! WOW You all brought tears to this "attitude" Nyers eyes! Geeez ....cut that out or I can't read the screen LOL.ok....and WHERE were you all hiding?? lol TY all for your very kind words...I agree...I just didn't want any problems and thought I might avoid them by posting as I did. I never expected what over flowed my mail box!!! LOL And I agree.....we ALL have that "delete" button I guess there are just some who like to complain...maybe they were having a bad day. I've been there! Well.....one definite thing I have learned...and "everything IS a lesson".....genealogy may be at times expensive ....it may give you reason to pull out your hair.....may give you blisters on your fingers and tired eyes from searching.......but the one thing it definitely does give you is the oppurtunity to get to know some of the most knowledgable, generous, friendly, and SUPPORTIVE people in the world! TY all very much! I appreciate it. Oh and to answer someone on Tyrone list and others if they don't know....lol or LOL ...means I am...smiling, "laughing out loud" or to me just that I am showing a humourous side to something I said. And yes I do it alot. I'm a laugher. lol < see! TY all so much! Sue in NY **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001)

Hi Before I cause any "contoversy" that seems to have popped up on another list......let me say.... I'm taking a little break from posting sites lol. It seems some may think my postings are irrevalent to the "Irish" county lists I posted on. They think what I have posted is just "American History". So before it starts let me explain why I sent all that I did, to quelch anything that may arise. I thought they were important in that many Irish immigrants from these counties came here and some of you "abroad" may want sites in ref to searching for them. I was drawn to these sites because of people from these lists who asked me..." an ancestor of mine, a child is on the NYC census in an Institution....why? What happened to her family? Could they have died on ship? If an ancestor died on ship where would they be?"or "Where do I go for NYC marraige certs?" Etc. So being the person I am...and honestly loving the hunt lol..and knowing just how great so many of you have been to me.....my fingers went a typing lol. I traveled thru site after site....and I must say, tho ashamed to admit it, lol I learned so much myself, and I was amazed at what I found. Yes I saved sites...but then it occured to me if these people want this info maybe somehow others do too, and by saving them chances are they may be forgotten in my "save file" or looked over in the future. I thought of how everyone has been so helpful to me, esp those of you in Ireland and abroad, that I so wanted to give back if even in just a small way and thought this was my chance to do just that. PLUS and this is the main reason....there are so few if any Irish records left to find information in.....here in the US our records are good. ..and intack...and have some great details on them.....that perhaps in some way...there can be info...a name, a maiden name, a town, a year....that is in an ancestors US record that can help someone trace back to the original town in that County and give that clue that they need so badly. Maybe even that "maiden name" that was never known and now opens a whole new door to research back in Ireland. So I did it! lol I hit that send button.....tho in my mind I did think...I hope this is ok....and I tried hard to control myself...See I was getting very excited at what I was finding and as they say " I wanted to share the wealth!!! lol So TY to all of you who asked for the info because I learned so much myself from searching for them. I must admit I have gotten many, many emails from listers that "have" found that small piece of info that is helping them and that makes me so happy! Because of that I will not STOP sending sites but I will definitely try to "space" them better, so as not to over run the lists with posts.lol. To those of you who might feel my "posts" were un-necessary, unwanted, cluttering..whatever..I am sorry you feel that way and Im sorry none of what I sent can help you. It was only done with the intentions of helping, and some were helped, so it served it's purpose. And I pre-apoligize for any annoyance or whatever that you feel. I apologize if in my enthusiam of trying to "give back" and sharing what I found ,to all those who have helped me in "Ireland" and elsewhere in the past, became to some "too much". I never intended for it to be. I guess my enthusiasm got the best of me. In the realm of things we can only hope that one day someone may post something that perhaps others may think un necessary but that we will find is the greatest "piece of info" for our own personal search. I have learned.......never leave any stone un turned for you never know what might be there. I hope I have averted any problems.... and again I am sorry if any of you were inconvienced or overwhelmed by the number of posts, but now my fingers have the itch to "search" thru the web lol.Take care.........and great Hunting!!!! .Sue in NY **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001)

Greetings! It is important when seeking Irish civil records, i.e. birth, marriage and death, to keep in mind these dates: Only Protestant marriages were recorded from 1845; the rest of the civil records applied to all from 1864. HOWEVER, and this is a big problem, not everyone complied with civil registration, even into the early 20th century. In my Catholic family, neither the marriage of a couple in the 1890s, nor the births of their five children (specifically one born in 1903) were recorded civilly. The information was only to be found in church records. It may have had to do with distrust of the registrars (i.e. they were English or were English supporters in most cases), or it was inconvenient to go to the market town on market day (when the traveling registrar showed up only every week or two, in my case on a Thursday, still market day -- no office or such then), or the weather was bad, or registration of the event in church records was deemed sufficient, or they were too far from the market town to walk and had no transport, or it was planting time and they were busy, or any other reason you can think of. Monaghan was a very rural county in the past, and to some extent still is in this time of autos and bus routes which only serve the main roads connecting some of the larger towns (I've ridden them and taken taxis out to cousins' rural farm homes from town). Hope this is helpful. Sally --- [email protected] wrote: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Immigrants that died on ships.. > ([email protected]) > 2. Re: Obtaining a long form birth certificate in > Ireland (Jim C) > 3. Monaghan 1851 census extracts (A.Harney) > 4. Townland- Agharooskey (Pauline Leonard) > > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected], > [email protected], > [email protected], > [email protected], > [email protected] > Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:12:14 EDT > Subject: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Immigrants that died on > ships.. > > Hi All, > In my searches these last few days I've learned > about a place...."Hart's > Island" (Potter's Field). It is an island off of > Manhattan where over the years > it has had different uses....a POW camp/prison for > Civil War Soldiers, a > prison's site, a home for delinquent boys, a home > for homeless men, factories, an > asylum, even a home and a small community of nice > homes, but most of all...now > it is used as a graveyard or burial ground. It is > where the un claimed from > NYC are buried. Whether it was an immigrant who died > on ship or even just lived > in the city and had no money and/or no one to claim > their remains, an infant > left who died with no one to claim them, a victim of > murder or consequences > who was never identified or claimed, or even a > person of wealth who no one > claimed to bury in a family plot....they are buried > here. There are 700,000 graves. > Men, women, children, infants. > > Unforunately these names were kept in the N Y Prison > system and hard to > obtain. But since March 14 th , 2008 there is a > project underway to make a website. > Here are some sites in ref to this, and about Hart > Island. > > As searchers we know we come across some very sad > stories in ref to the > immigrants and people we search for, This may be one > of them. I know it broke my > heart to see small coffins of infants stacked in > rows of four to be buried that > way. But I knew that this was important info to pass > on. Here are the sites: > > > _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hart_Island,_New_York_ > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hart_Island,_New_York) > > > > _http://www.newyorkfamilyhistory.org/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle& > artid=64_ > (http://www.newyorkfamilyhistory.org/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=64) > > > > _http://www.hartisland.org/_ > (http://www.hartisland.org/) > > > > **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. > Watch the video on AOL > Home. > (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001) > > > From: "Jim C" <[email protected]> > CC: [email protected] > To: "Jacqueline Harris" <[email protected]>, > "Dee Cee" <[email protected]> > Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:17:53 -0400 > Subject: Re: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Obtaining a long form > birth certificate in Ireland > > Hi, Jacqueline and Dee and all. > > Would anyone know for how far back these birth > certificates might be > available, and how much they cost? And can SKS > re-post the information that > would be required to get them? I guess I missed > that! > > Thanks, > Jim C > > Researching McAleer and Keenan in Monaghan in the > 1830's timeframe. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jacqueline Harris > [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 6:15 AM > To: Dee Cee > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Obtaining a long form > birth certificate in > Ireland > > Dee, > > If it is a Monaghan certificate then this is where > you will get one. > > Monaghan Local Health Care, > North Eastern Health Board, > Rooskey, > Monaghan, > Co. Monaghan. > > Also you can go to a web page and follow the links > > www.goireland.ie > > Good luck, > > Jackie, > > Storing memory - no problem > Retrieving memory - big problem > > OPC for North Bovey. > Researching: Devon: FROST, GITSHAM, HARRIS, HOWARD, > ROWLAND. > Ballybay, Co.Monaghan: DUFFY, HAND, MOAN(E), MOEN, > MOGHAN, MOHAN, WOODS. > N. Yorks: BRANSLEY, EASBY, RUTHERFORD, THOMPSON, > WALKER. > Northants: DAY, GRIFFIN(G), NUTT, PITTS, UNDERWOOD, > WADE. > Shropshire: ALLART, DAVIES, GRIFFITHS, JONES, > MANSELL, PITTS > Anywhere: MOAN(E), MOEN, MOGHAN, MOHAN, MOHUN. > Protected by www.SpamJab.com {NYvf5yYjM3TGB5C1dg] > > > > Dee Cee wrote: > > Dear List members, > > > > I am writing to inquire if anyone can asssist me > in obtaining a long > form birth certificate from Ireland. > > > > Several months ago, I posted an inquiry about my > maternal grandmother, > Susan Trainor, to this list. Several list members, > including Claire and > Jim, were very helpful and I was able to obtain the > information I needed to > request my grandmother's birth certificate. > > > > I sent my application (with payment) to the > Roscommon address in > January, but I have never had a reply (or > acknowledgement). Consequently, I > faxed the same request earlier this month (again > with payment), but I have > heard nothing. > > > > Would it be possible to enlist someone who is in > Ireland to make the > request on my behalf? I can furnish all of the > relevant information (and > payment). Thanks in advance for any assistance that > can be provided. > > > > Best wishes, > > David Clayton > > Chicago, IL > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them > fast with Yahoo! > Search. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > From: "A.Harney" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:20:33 -0400 > Subject: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Monaghan 1851 census > extracts > > Surviving 1851 Census Returns of Ireland - Census > Abstracts in Old Age > Pension Applications 1011 > > County: Monaghan Parish: Errigle Trough Townland: > Aghaderry > 2. JAMES MULHERON, 39 (Head of Family) [Married > 1843] - FARMER (Monaghan) > (R) > MARY MULHERON, 34 (Wife) [Married 1843] - NONE > (Monaghan) (R) > SALLY MULHERON, 2 (Daughter) [Unmarried] - NOT AT > SCHOOL (Monaghan) > *Two other individuals in household, not listed by > name. > +++ > County: Monaghan Parish: Tullycorbet Townland: > Cornanure > 24. OWEN McENALLY, 27 (Head) [Married 1829] - NONE > (Monaghan) (R/W) (Crossed > Out) > CATHRIN McNALLY, 26 (Wife) [Married 1829] NONE > (Monaghan) > PAT McNALLY, 5 (Son) [Unmarried] - NONE (Monaghan) > Absent from Household 30th March 1851: > OWEN McNALLY, 27 (Head) -NONE {Monaghan} > +++ > County: Monaghan Parish: Clones Townland:Innishamon > 1. JAMES QUIGLY, 35 (Head of Family) [Married 1839] > - FARMER (Fermanagh) > ROSE ANNE QUIGLY, 30 (Wife) [Married 1839] - FARMER > (Monaghan) (R) > KITTY QUIGLY, 1 (Daughter) [Unmarried] - AT SCHOOL > (Monaghan) > *Five other individuals in household, not listed by > name > +++++ > County: Monaghan Parish: Donaghmoyne Townland: > Killmurry > 26. HUGH SHERRY, 30 (Head of Family) [Married 1843] > - LABOURER (Monaghan) > MARY SHERRY, 30 (Wife) [Married 1843] - HOUSEKEEPER > (Monaghan) > OWEN SHERRY, 5 (Son) [Unmarried] - NONE (Monaghan) > *One other individual in household, not listed by > name > ++++++ > > http://www.ogsottawa.on.ca/irishcensus1851/Other1851IrishCensusReturns.pdf > > > HTH somone! > Ann > > > > From: "Pauline Leonard" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:41:13 -0400 > Subject: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Townland- Agharooskey > > Hello, > I think I may have just found out that my > great-grandfather was born in the > Townland of Agharooskey, Co. Monaghan. I always > thought he was from > Fermangh. > I cannot find a townland by that name in Monaghan. I > am not very familiar > with Monaghan since I have always been looking in > Fermanagh. > Is there a townland in Monaghan named Agharooskey? > Does anyone know where it > is? Does anyone have a map of it? > I know that there is a townland in Fermanagh called > Agharooky West or > something like that. I would have to look that up > again. This information > says Monaghan. > Would anyone be able to shed any light on this for > me? Would anyone have > access to the 1901 Census of Ireland to look up this > family. I know that my > MURRAY family was in the townland of Mullyduff, Co. > Fermanagh in the 1911 > Census but they weren't there for the 1901. The > townland of Agharoosky in > Fermanagh is fairly close to Mullyduff. There is no > townland in Monaghan > called Agharooskey according to SeanRuad. I am > totally confused and don't > know what to think now. > I have a marriage certificate for James MURRAY and > Margaret GIBNEY (my > great-grandmothers name). They were married in 1905 > at the Cathedral of > Monaghan. It says that James was residing in > Drummaconor, Monaghan and > Margaret was residing at Monaghan. James MURRAY's > daughter says she > remembers that he was from Agharoosky (she doesn't > know the spelling or > place). > > James MURRAY > date of baptism/birth- 01/08/1888 > address- Agharooskey > parish/district- Monaghan > county- Monaghan > gender- Male > denomination- Registration District [ I don't know > what this means] > father- James MURRAY > mother- Mary ARMSTRONG > occupation- Labourer > sponsor 1- Mary > sponsor 2- [nothing] > notes- [nothing] > > Thanks > Pauline > Ontario > Canada > > > To contact the IRL-MONAGHAN list administrator, send > an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the IRL-MONAGHAN mailing list, > send an email to [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? 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I find only the following: Agharoosky Acres: 92 County: Fermanagh Barony: Clankelly, Parish: Clones, Poor Law Union: Clones [aka registration district], Province: Ulster Agharoosky East 132 Fermanagh Clankelly Galloon Clones Ulster (next parish west) Agharoosky West 125 Fermanagh Coole Galloon Clones Ulster The Parish of Clones is half in Clones and half in Fermanagh. Perhaps the Clones registration was listed as Monaghan?? "...the Registration District for the purpose of recording births, marriages and deaths was the same as the Poor Law Union, and occasionally this administrative division could cross county boundaries." http://homepage.eircom.net/%257Eseanjmurphy/gro/plus.htm HTH, Ann >grandfather was born in the Townland of Agharooskey, Co. Monaghan. I always thought he was from Fermangh.

Jim, here are the web pages: http://www.groireland.ie/apply_for_a_cert.htm Http://www.groirelanmd.ie/fees.htp Monaghan local health care, North Eastern Health Board, Rooskey, Monaghan, Co. Monaghan They only accept euros drawn on an Irish bank but you can download a payment form and pay by credit card. I have only bought the photocopy of a registration which is 6€ Normal ones are 10€ Hope this helps, Dee, I missed the "r" out of groireland yesterday. Sorry, Jackie, Storing memory - no problem Retrieving memory - big problem OPC for North Bovey. Researching: Devon: FROST, GITSHAM, HARRIS, HOWARD, ROWLAND. Ballybay, Co.Monaghan: DUFFY, HAND, MOAN(E), MOEN, MOGHAN, MOHAN, WOODS. N. Yorks: BRANSLEY, EASBY, RUTHERFORD, THOMPSON, WALKER. Northants: DAY, GRIFFIN(G), NUTT, PITTS, UNDERWOOD, WADE. Shropshire: ALLART, DAVIES, GRIFFITHS, JONES, MANSELL, PITTS Anywhere: MOAN(E), MOEN, MOGHAN, MOHAN, MOHUN. Protected by www.SpamJab.com {NYvf5yYjM3TGB5C1dg] Jim C wrote: > Hi, Jacqueline and Dee and all. > > Would anyone know for how far back these birth certificates might be > available, and how much they cost? And can SKS re-post the information that > would be required to get them? I guess I missed that! > > Thanks, > Jim C > > Researching McAleer and Keenan in Monaghan in the 1830's timeframe. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jacqueline Harris [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 6:15 AM > To: Dee Cee > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Obtaining a long form birth certificate in > Ireland > > Dee, > > If it is a Monaghan certificate then this is where you will get one. > > Monaghan Local Health Care, > North Eastern Health Board, > Rooskey, > Monaghan, > Co. Monaghan. > > Also you can go to a web page and follow the links > > www.goireland.ie > > Good luck, > > Jackie, > > Storing memory - no problem > Retrieving memory - big problem > > OPC for North Bovey. > Researching: Devon: FROST, GITSHAM, HARRIS, HOWARD, ROWLAND. > Ballybay, Co.Monaghan: DUFFY, HAND, MOAN(E), MOEN, MOGHAN, MOHAN, WOODS. > N. Yorks: BRANSLEY, EASBY, RUTHERFORD, THOMPSON, WALKER. > Northants: DAY, GRIFFIN(G), NUTT, PITTS, UNDERWOOD, WADE. > Shropshire: ALLART, DAVIES, GRIFFITHS, JONES, MANSELL, PITTS > Anywhere: MOAN(E), MOEN, MOGHAN, MOHAN, MOHUN. > Protected by www.SpamJab.com {NYvf5yYjM3TGB5C1dg] > > > > Dee Cee wrote: > >> Dear List members, >> >> I am writing to inquire if anyone can asssist me in obtaining a long >> > form birth certificate from Ireland. > >> Several months ago, I posted an inquiry about my maternal grandmother, >> > Susan Trainor, to this list. Several list members, including Claire and > Jim, were very helpful and I was able to obtain the information I needed to > request my grandmother's birth certificate. > >> I sent my application (with payment) to the Roscommon address in >> > January, but I have never had a reply (or acknowledgement). Consequently, I > faxed the same request earlier this month (again with payment), but I have > heard nothing. > >> Would it be possible to enlist someone who is in Ireland to make the >> > request on my behalf? I can furnish all of the relevant information (and > payment). Thanks in advance for any assistance that can be provided. > >> Best wishes, >> David Clayton >> Chicago, IL >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! >> > Search. > >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> >> > > > >

Jim go to the site: http://www.gro.ie/ For the information you might need. A lot of what everyone wants to ask is answered on this site including information on the history of the GRO and the records held, Local Registration offices etc. and maps of where to find locations of the main research offices within Dublin. slan Cyril Newsome Loch Garman... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim C" <[email protected]> To: "Jacqueline Harris" <[email protected]>; "Dee Cee" <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Obtaining a long form birth certificate inIreland > Hi, Jacqueline and Dee and all. > > Would anyone know for how far back these birth certificates might be > available, and how much they cost? And can SKS re-post the information > that > would be required to get them? I guess I missed that! > > Thanks, > Jim C > > Researching McAleer and Keenan in Monaghan in the 1830's timeframe. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jacqueline Harris [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 6:15 AM > To: Dee Cee > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Obtaining a long form birth certificate in > Ireland > > Dee, > > If it is a Monaghan certificate then this is where you will get one. > > Monaghan Local Health Care, > North Eastern Health Board, > Rooskey, > Monaghan, > Co. Monaghan. > > Also you can go to a web page and follow the links > > www.goireland.ie > > Good luck, > > Jackie, > > Storing memory - no problem > Retrieving memory - big problem > > OPC for North Bovey. > Researching: Devon: FROST, GITSHAM, HARRIS, HOWARD, ROWLAND. > Ballybay, Co.Monaghan: DUFFY, HAND, MOAN(E), MOEN, MOGHAN, MOHAN, WOODS. > N. Yorks: BRANSLEY, EASBY, RUTHERFORD, THOMPSON, WALKER. > Northants: DAY, GRIFFIN(G), NUTT, PITTS, UNDERWOOD, WADE. > Shropshire: ALLART, DAVIES, GRIFFITHS, JONES, MANSELL, PITTS > Anywhere: MOAN(E), MOEN, MOGHAN, MOHAN, MOHUN. > Protected by www.SpamJab.com {NYvf5yYjM3TGB5C1dg] > > > > Dee Cee wrote: >> Dear List members, >> >> I am writing to inquire if anyone can asssist me in obtaining a long > form birth certificate from Ireland. >> >> Several months ago, I posted an inquiry about my maternal grandmother, > Susan Trainor, to this list. Several list members, including Claire and > Jim, were very helpful and I was able to obtain the information I needed > to > request my grandmother's birth certificate. >> >> I sent my application (with payment) to the Roscommon address in > January, but I have never had a reply (or acknowledgement). Consequently, > I > faxed the same request earlier this month (again with payment), but I have > heard nothing. >> >> Would it be possible to enlist someone who is in Ireland to make the > request on my behalf? I can furnish all of the relevant information (and > payment). Thanks in advance for any assistance that can be provided. >> >> Best wishes, >> David Clayton >> Chicago, IL >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! > Search. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello, I think I may have just found out that my great-grandfather was born in the Townland of Agharooskey, Co. Monaghan. I always thought he was from Fermangh. I cannot find a townland by that name in Monaghan. I am not very familiar with Monaghan since I have always been looking in Fermanagh. Is there a townland in Monaghan named Agharooskey? Does anyone know where it is? Does anyone have a map of it? I know that there is a townland in Fermanagh called Agharooky West or something like that. I would have to look that up again. This information says Monaghan. Would anyone be able to shed any light on this for me? Would anyone have access to the 1901 Census of Ireland to look up this family. I know that my MURRAY family was in the townland of Mullyduff, Co. Fermanagh in the 1911 Census but they weren't there for the 1901. The townland of Agharoosky in Fermanagh is fairly close to Mullyduff. There is no townland in Monaghan called Agharooskey according to SeanRuad. I am totally confused and don't know what to think now. I have a marriage certificate for James MURRAY and Margaret GIBNEY (my great-grandmothers name). They were married in 1905 at the Cathedral of Monaghan. It says that James was residing in Drummaconor, Monaghan and Margaret was residing at Monaghan. James MURRAY's daughter says she remembers that he was from Agharoosky (she doesn't know the spelling or place). James MURRAY date of baptism/birth- 01/08/1888 address- Agharooskey parish/district- Monaghan county- Monaghan gender- Male denomination- Registration District [ I don't know what this means] father- James MURRAY mother- Mary ARMSTRONG occupation- Labourer sponsor 1- Mary sponsor 2- [nothing] notes- [nothing] Thanks Pauline Ontario Canada

Surviving 1851 Census Returns of Ireland - Census Abstracts in Old Age Pension Applications 1011 County: Monaghan Parish: Errigle Trough Townland: Aghaderry 2. JAMES MULHERON, 39 (Head of Family) [Married 1843] - FARMER (Monaghan) (R) MARY MULHERON, 34 (Wife) [Married 1843] - NONE (Monaghan) (R) SALLY MULHERON, 2 (Daughter) [Unmarried] - NOT AT SCHOOL (Monaghan) *Two other individuals in household, not listed by name. +++ County: Monaghan Parish: Tullycorbet Townland: Cornanure 24. OWEN McENALLY, 27 (Head) [Married 1829] - NONE (Monaghan) (R/W) (Crossed Out) CATHRIN McNALLY, 26 (Wife) [Married 1829] NONE (Monaghan) PAT McNALLY, 5 (Son) [Unmarried] - NONE (Monaghan) Absent from Household 30th March 1851: OWEN McNALLY, 27 (Head) -NONE {Monaghan} +++ County: Monaghan Parish: Clones Townland:Innishamon 1. JAMES QUIGLY, 35 (Head of Family) [Married 1839] - FARMER (Fermanagh) ROSE ANNE QUIGLY, 30 (Wife) [Married 1839] - FARMER (Monaghan) (R) KITTY QUIGLY, 1 (Daughter) [Unmarried] - AT SCHOOL (Monaghan) *Five other individuals in household, not listed by name +++++ County: Monaghan Parish: Donaghmoyne Townland: Killmurry 26. HUGH SHERRY, 30 (Head of Family) [Married 1843] - LABOURER (Monaghan) MARY SHERRY, 30 (Wife) [Married 1843] - HOUSEKEEPER (Monaghan) OWEN SHERRY, 5 (Son) [Unmarried] - NONE (Monaghan) *One other individual in household, not listed by name ++++++ http://www.ogsottawa.on.ca/irishcensus1851/Other1851IrishCensusReturns.pdf HTH somone! Ann

Hi, Jacqueline and Dee and all. Would anyone know for how far back these birth certificates might be available, and how much they cost? And can SKS re-post the information that would be required to get them? I guess I missed that! Thanks, Jim C Researching McAleer and Keenan in Monaghan in the 1830's timeframe. -----Original Message----- From: Jacqueline Harris [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 6:15 AM To: Dee Cee Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Obtaining a long form birth certificate in Ireland Dee, If it is a Monaghan certificate then this is where you will get one. Monaghan Local Health Care, North Eastern Health Board, Rooskey, Monaghan, Co. Monaghan. Also you can go to a web page and follow the links www.goireland.ie Good luck, Jackie, Storing memory - no problem Retrieving memory - big problem OPC for North Bovey. Researching: Devon: FROST, GITSHAM, HARRIS, HOWARD, ROWLAND. Ballybay, Co.Monaghan: DUFFY, HAND, MOAN(E), MOEN, MOGHAN, MOHAN, WOODS. N. Yorks: BRANSLEY, EASBY, RUTHERFORD, THOMPSON, WALKER. Northants: DAY, GRIFFIN(G), NUTT, PITTS, UNDERWOOD, WADE. Shropshire: ALLART, DAVIES, GRIFFITHS, JONES, MANSELL, PITTS Anywhere: MOAN(E), MOEN, MOGHAN, MOHAN, MOHUN. Protected by www.SpamJab.com {NYvf5yYjM3TGB5C1dg] Dee Cee wrote: > Dear List members, > > I am writing to inquire if anyone can asssist me in obtaining a long form birth certificate from Ireland. > > Several months ago, I posted an inquiry about my maternal grandmother, Susan Trainor, to this list. Several list members, including Claire and Jim, were very helpful and I was able to obtain the information I needed to request my grandmother's birth certificate. > > I sent my application (with payment) to the Roscommon address in January, but I have never had a reply (or acknowledgement). Consequently, I faxed the same request earlier this month (again with payment), but I have heard nothing. > > Would it be possible to enlist someone who is in Ireland to make the request on my behalf? I can furnish all of the relevant information (and payment). Thanks in advance for any assistance that can be provided. > > Best wishes, > David Clayton > Chicago, IL > > > --------------------------------- > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hi All, In my searches these last few days I've learned about a place...."Hart's Island" (Potter's Field). It is an island off of Manhattan where over the years it has had different uses....a POW camp/prison for Civil War Soldiers, a prison's site, a home for delinquent boys, a home for homeless men, factories, an asylum, even a home and a small community of nice homes, but most of all...now it is used as a graveyard or burial ground. It is where the un claimed from NYC are buried. Whether it was an immigrant who died on ship or even just lived in the city and had no money and/or no one to claim their remains, an infant left who died with no one to claim them, a victim of murder or consequences who was never identified or claimed, or even a person of wealth who no one claimed to bury in a family plot....they are buried here. There are 700,000 graves. Men, women, children, infants. Unforunately these names were kept in the N Y Prison system and hard to obtain. But since March 14 th , 2008 there is a project underway to make a website. Here are some sites in ref to this, and about Hart Island. As searchers we know we come across some very sad stories in ref to the immigrants and people we search for, This may be one of them. I know it broke my heart to see small coffins of infants stacked in rows of four to be buried that way. But I knew that this was important info to pass on. Here are the sites: _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hart_Island,_New_York_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hart_Island,_New_York) _http://www.newyorkfamilyhistory.org/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle& artid=64_ (http://www.newyorkfamilyhistory.org/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=64) _http://www.hartisland.org/_ (http://www.hartisland.org/) **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001)

Hi All, I have been trying to help someone locate a family...perhaps just the children in NY City. Because of this I have come across sites and info that some of you might find either helpful or interesting. They were "Institutions" where children were left or went because either parents couldn't afford to care for them or the parents died. Another part of "Immigration" history because of this were - "The Orphan Trains". Here is a brief history....below the article is the site it came from. Plus below that "other" sites in ref to this, and different institutions, hospitals, jails, orphanages etc. Some of these sires have names on them..... A BRIEF HISTORY OF THE ORPHAN TRAIN MOVEMENT The Orphan Train movement began in 1854 and continued until 1930. During this 75 year time span, somewhere between 150,000 and 200,000 orphaned, abandoned, and homeless children were sent "west" from New York on trains to find new families. There were two main organizations that "shipped" children west to new homes. They were: 1) The Children's Aid Society run by Rev. Charles Loring Brace, and 2) The New York Founding Hospital, operated by the Sisters of Charity. It was hoped by these organizations, that by sending these "orphans" out west to find new "families" they would have a better chance of leading a happy and productive life, than if left to fend for themselves on the streets of New York. Both of these charitable organizations are still in operation today. The first Kansas-bound Orphan Train arrived in the state in 1867, and the last Kansas train arrived in 1930 (the same year the Orphan Train movement officirly ceased operations). During that time, it is estimated that between 5,000 and 6,O00 children were placed in Kansas homes. Some of these children were adopted by their new Kansas families, but many were not. The following is the story of two Kansasbound Orphan Train Riders. _Riders on an Orphan Train_ (http://www.kancoll.org/articles/orphans/orphan_t.htm) Sites about Orphan Trains: _http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mogrundy/orphans.html_ (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mogrundy/orphans.html) (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mogrundy/orphans.html) _http://www.outfitters.com/~melissa/ot/ot.html_ (http://www.outfitters.com/~melissa/ot/ot.html) _Genealogy: Orphan Trains_ (http://www.genealinks.com/orphantrain.htm) _http://www.genealinks.com/orphantrain.htm_ (http://www.genealinks.com/orphantrain.htm) Brooklyn/ NY City -Census/ Hospitals/Institutions/ Orphanages: _http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/Census/index.html_ (http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/Census/index.html) I thought these sites might help some looking for those they couldn't find, esp young children. I hope they help. Sue in NY **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001)

Dee, If it is a Monaghan certificate then this is where you will get one. Monaghan Local Health Care, North Eastern Health Board, Rooskey, Monaghan, Co. Monaghan. Also you can go to a web page and follow the links www.goireland.ie Good luck, Jackie, Storing memory - no problem Retrieving memory - big problem OPC for North Bovey. Researching: Devon: FROST, GITSHAM, HARRIS, HOWARD, ROWLAND. Ballybay, Co.Monaghan: DUFFY, HAND, MOAN(E), MOEN, MOGHAN, MOHAN, WOODS. N. Yorks: BRANSLEY, EASBY, RUTHERFORD, THOMPSON, WALKER. Northants: DAY, GRIFFIN(G), NUTT, PITTS, UNDERWOOD, WADE. Shropshire: ALLART, DAVIES, GRIFFITHS, JONES, MANSELL, PITTS Anywhere: MOAN(E), MOEN, MOGHAN, MOHAN, MOHUN. Protected by www.SpamJab.com {NYvf5yYjM3TGB5C1dg] Dee Cee wrote: > Dear List members, > > I am writing to inquire if anyone can asssist me in obtaining a long form birth certificate from Ireland. > > Several months ago, I posted an inquiry about my maternal grandmother, Susan Trainor, to this list. Several list members, including Claire and Jim, were very helpful and I was able to obtain the information I needed to request my grandmother's birth certificate. > > I sent my application (with payment) to the Roscommon address in January, but I have never had a reply (or acknowledgement). Consequently, I faxed the same request earlier this month (again with payment), but I have heard nothing. > > Would it be possible to enlist someone who is in Ireland to make the request on my behalf? I can furnish all of the relevant information (and payment). Thanks in advance for any assistance that can be provided. > > Best wishes, > David Clayton > Chicago, IL > > > --------------------------------- > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

I have come across a couple more sites some may find of interest. In my searching I have found lists to be very helpful. but I have also used message boards. In fact it is thru them I connected to 5 cousins directly linked to my names. One cousin is in N. Ireland. I know a lot of you must know about Ancestry and Rootsweb boards, but there is another board for Ireland, Scotland and Wales.....It is Rootschat...here is site.... _http://www.rootschat.com/forum/_ (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/) Newspaper sites are also a great way of finding info in Ireland or anywhere for that matter......here are some Irish newspaper sites ...and they are always adding to them. Don't just look for Tyrone papers...sometimes articles were in papers outside of immediate area so look at all N Ireland. Plus N Ireland was actually a somewhat small area and people moved around alot. So don't limit yourself. If a family lived in Tyrone near the border to lets say Fermanagh.....and if the church in Fermanagh was closer to them....they may have very well have gone there for marraiges, christenings, deaths. In fact if Im not mistaken many parishes crossed over borders of townlands and counties. So if I've learned anything it is NOT to "assume" in searching in N Ireland. Here are some newspaper sites....... _http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/_ (http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/) < this site can be used for a lot of countries! _http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tyrone/newspaper/index.html_ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tyrone/newspaper/index.html) _http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nyirish/Index%20of%20American%20Iris h%20Newspaper.html_ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nyirish/Index%20of%20American%20Irish%20Newspaper.html) _http://www.ucs.louisiana.edu/cgi-bin/belfst/QueryForm1.cgi_ (http://www.ucs.louisiana.edu/cgi-bin/belfst/QueryForm1.cgi) _http://www.irelandoldnews.com/_ (http://www.irelandoldnews.com/) And here are a few other sites I came across: _http://www.nifhs.org/_ (http://www.nifhs.org/) < North of Ireland Family HIstory _http://www.ulsterancestry.com/_ (http://www.ulsterancestry.com/) < try "free pages" to search Sue in NY **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001)