I do not believe this has yet been posted to these groups. My apologies if this is old information. I don't know how long these maps have been online, but I stumbled across this last night. It's very exciting, especially for those researching in Northern Ireland. The search functionality does not return results but the maps are still viewable in Co. Monaghan. You will need to navigate by eye south of the border. However, if you are searching above the border, a townland name or street will return locations. A login is required, but you can sign up here: https://maps.osni.gov.uk/Login.aspx Once you have logged in, choose the second option: "Browse and Query Maps in GeoHub NI" for the most detailed maps. Play around with the controls up top. The print button allows you to exporrt to html or pdf any of the maps. The measure button helps see how far from your townland it is to where the ruined church y9our ancestors attended. Also, you can measure area to see for example how many acress that lake is. Helpful for me to get my bearings on the maps.... VERY COOL. (if you're a map geek like me) Cheers, Eric McQuaid [email protected] Plano, Texas, USA McQuaid, Kelly, McMahon, Clerkin Co. Monaghan, Co. Fermanagh

I have not posted to the list for a while. I am still trying to find my grandparents and beyond. It is so frustrating when I have many clues. My family were MURPHY m DUFFY MURPHY m WOODS My mother was born at Drumnagrella (I have visited the cottage/farm) Inniskeen in 1908. She died when I was 5 years. I have a copy of the 1901 census. Peter Murphy farmer aged 60 b county Louth married to my Gr Grandmother Eileen Duffy aged 56 b county Monaghan. Children Bridget age 24 Annie " 22 Kate " 17 Joseph 21 Peter " 20 All Roman Catholics all could read and write. I believe there were about 13 in the family, 3 brothers I believe went o America, before the census and 2 others died. Bridget married Willie (william Woods) and they lived at Drumnagrella. I have had a contact from a cousin in St. Louis, South America. He hired a genealogist many years ago, the baptismal dates appear to be before the birth dates, and they don't tally with the 1901 census. I so want to find out about my Mothers family to pass on to my 3 children before I die. I am a pensioner, living in England and don't know where to look! Can someone give me a hand? A website maybe that would have access to this part of Ireland, Inniskeen is about 12 miles from Dundalk. I have found some grave stones in the Inniskeen Cemetery which is now the Peter Kavanagh centre, but no relevant help. There is also a little chapel in the graveyard dedicated to the Murphy & Woods family. Any help would be so appreciated. Julie Perry (Woods)

I posted this notice on GENIRE but forgot to post it here also. Everything you ever wanted to know about old Ireland ! I found that http://books.google.com/ has John O'Hart's "Irish Pedigrees". vols I and II. From the webpages below, you can read the books online, download it in PDF format, or view it in plain text, which allows you to cut and paste portions of text. You can do word searches from the website. If you download the books, you will not be able to search for words as the pages are images of the original book pages and not in text format. Only the Google website has that feature. Google must have made the PDF files of the two vols. on their website from text versions of the pages. They must have used (OCR) Character Recognition scanning of every page of the book. A monumental undertaking. You can tell by noticing all the misspellings and format changes from the original pages. If you have broadband speed it will take about 7 mins with a download speed of around 100kb/sec. to download a volume. Dialup speed would take hours. ====================================================================== VOL I. 44.6 mb size. http://books.google.com/books?id=2icbAAAAYAAJ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- VOL II 44.7 MB size. http://books.google.com/books?id=qFRmAAAAMAAJ ======================================================================

Jim Are you still on this message board? I saw your posting on research you did on your Lindsay's of Cavan, I was wondering if you have a master list of research you did while in Belfast on the Kilmore Parish Lindsay's. I am looking for certain marriages and births. Thank you Lindsey

Is there anything documented for this county like a census or tax rolls to show my Lindsay surname there in 1821-1849 time frame. Naghill, Drumstat thanks Lindsey

I have posted a few new news transcriptions and annotated them as a way to try to discover more about who all the connected parties might be. Other names may appear in the footnotes, but the ones mentioned are mentioned in the article itself. http://www.thesilverbowl.com/documents/newsclippings/1798Aug9.html NAMES: William CUNNINGHAM; John JACKSON; John WILSON; John CONNELLAN, a Dundalk apothecary; Mrs. McCAUL; John KELLY of Dundalk; Thomas Gunning BASHFORD, Belfast shopkeeper; Mr. CAMPBELL of Derry; William DONALDSON of Freeduff; Mr. O'HANLON; Daniel DEVIT. http://www.thesilverbowl.com/documents/newsclippings/1798Aug14.html NAMES: John CONNELLAN, apothecary from Dundalk; John MOORE; James PILLAR; John JACKSON; John WILSON; William CUNNINGHAM; William CAMPBLE AKA CAMPBELL, innkeeper at Armagh; Mrs. McCAUL; William DONALDSON of Freeduff; John KELLY, Dundalk; Unnamed STIRLING; Hugh HERON; Daniel DEVIT; (probably Samuel) COULTER; JOCELYN; Alexander JOHNSTON; William CUNNINGHAM; John MOORE; William FOSTER of Dundalk; John HINDES of Dundalk. http://www.thesilverbowl.com/documents/newsclippings/1798Aug17.html NAMES: James Taylor; John MOORE; John JACKSON; William CUNNINGHAM; John WILSON; John CONNELLAN; James MITCHELL; John QUEERY; Gawin WATT. As always, if you have any information about the people and place that you can add to my amateur efforts, I am always delighted to learn more. Cheers, Sharon Oddie Brown Roberts Creek, BC, Canada History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl

Hello All,    I have been looking for a map showing the townlands for the parishes of Aghabog, Currin  and Drummully.  I only seem to find the listings  and not the map.  Any help appreciated.  Geraldine

Thank-you so much for your help. I had quite a time figuring out the handwriting on the birth records and you have given me the clues I needed. The map site was very helpful. Thank-you everyone. Nancy Arnott -- WOW! Homepage (http://www.wowway.com)

Hi! I am new to the list and am searching for a source to purchase a map that would show placenames in the first half of the 19th century. Having recently acquired the birth records of my gr gr grandfather and his first daughter would like to locate them on a map. His birthplace was Glassdromin, parish Tydavnet. He was born in 1802. Hers was Anyevrey? (difficult to read) parish Teilmov----? She was born in 1838. Any help in deciphering these place names would be greatly appreciated. Thank-you, Nancy Arnott -- WOW! Homepage (http://www.wowway.com)

Nancy, Go to http://193.178.1.178/Monaghan_gPlan/ In the SEARCH block type in Glassdromin. It will come back with 4 hits. Click on the first one listed which I believe to be yours: Glasdrumman Make sure you use the zoom in/out feature to get more or less detail. Do the same with your other townland, Anyevrey, and you will come up with 2 hits. The 2nd one, Anveyerg, is probably yours. Rob Robert E. Welch Scottsdale, AZ, USA [email protected] Cavan: Welsh Fermanagh: Chapman, Welsh Monaghan: McGinnis, Welsh Tyrone: McGinnis, Robb, Welsh -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 1:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Deciphering birth records Hi! I am new to the list and am searching for a source to purchase a map that would show placenames in the first half of the 19th century. Having recently acquired the birth records of my gr gr grandfather and his first daughter would like to locate them on a map. His birthplace was Glassdromin, parish Tydavnet. He was born in 1802. Hers was Anyevrey? (difficult to read) parish Teilmov----? She was born in 1838. Any help in deciphering these place names would be greatly appreciated. Thank-you, Nancy Arnott -- WOW! Homepage (http://www.wowway.com) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think its spelled GLASDRUMMAN. Anyevrey? Same parish? Aghaboy North Aghaboy South Aghaclogha Aghagally Aghagaw Aghanameena Agheracalkill Agherakeltan Aghnahunshin Allagesh Annagally Annahagh Annyalty Annyeeb Annyerk Tydavnet townlands listed here; http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/fuses/townlands/index.cfm?fuseaction=TownlandsInCivil&civilparishid=1970&civilparish=Tedavnet&citycounty=Monaghan At 12:12 PM 11/8/2008, you wrote: Hi! I am new to the list and am searching for a source to purchase a map that would show placenames in the first half of the 19th century. Having recently acquired the birth records of my gr gr grandfather and his first daughter would like to locate them on a map. His birthplace was Glassdromin, parish Tydavnet. He was born in 1802. Hers was Anyevrey? (difficult to read) parish Teilmov----? She was born in 1838. Any help in deciphering these place names would be greatly appreciated. Thank-you, Nancy Arnott

Just a heads up to those who read this list. I will be going to Ireland next April/May for close to six weeks to work my fool head off. I will be focusing on people related in some way to Sir Thomas JACKSON (this means the OLIVERs of Laragh and countless others). My to-do list is daunting, but I go expecting great success. Sharon Oddie Brown Roberts Creek, BC, Canada History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl

I have recently transcribed and posted a number of news items relating to Laragh, Co. Monaghan. I make no claims for the accuracy of my transcriptions and welcome correction (I do them using voice recognition software because I am a hopeless typist - sometimes funny things happen and I don't catch them all). I am indebted to Mary France Kerly for her paper, The Rise & Fall Of A Village Industry: Cornacarrow & Laragh Mills 1775 - 1925 when it comes to making sense of events in Laragh. If you go to my newsclippings page, and look at the various articles on Laragh, you will see that I have updated many of footnotes thanks to the contributions from some of you to improving my knowledge of the both the times and the place. SEE: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/documents/newsclippings/newsclippings-page.htm The names of people mentioned in these newsclippings are all listed on this page. If anyone knows anything about any of them, I'd love to learn more. (When I know nothing, I still put the name in the footnote because it is simpler to add information in the future as I learn it.) I have updated some of the footnotes in pieces that I posted earlier. Goodness knows, there is still much more to learn. Sharon Oddie Brown Roberts Creek, BC, Canada History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl

I have been able to find from the Parish Records and the IGI that my GrGrGrandmother Mary Ann PEPPER was born 19 May 1811 in CLONES, Monaghan. Her parents were George PEPPER and Sarah CATHCART. George PEPPERS occupation was given as a travelling Soldier. I would like to know more about George such as what Regiment would he have been in at that time. Also the meaning of the term Tavelling Soldier. I am assuming that the Regiment would have been BRITISH at that time period. Is that a fair assumption. Would also like to know if George and Sarah were ever married and where I.E. Ireland and where and when. Any assisitance would be much appreciated Many thanks in advance. Jim Brennan Corunna, On. Can.

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I am also very interested in this CD - can someone give further details?? Interested in the surname RUSK. Thanks Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 1:20 AM Subject: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Ballinode Parish/Lindsay > > Kilmore Church Records were recently available at the 250th Celebrations of Ballinode Parish Church on CD. The name Lindsay was very prominent on these records August of 2005 > > > > Hello > > The above message was posted in August of 2005 to Rootsweb message boards. > > Does anyone have access to the CD's to do a look up of the Lindsay surname > > Thanks > > > Lindsey > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Everything you ever wanted to know about old Ireland ! I found that http://books.google.com/ has John O'Hart's "Irish Pedigrees". vols I and II. From the webpages below, you can read the books online, download it in PDF format, or view it in plain text, which allows you to cut and paste portions of text. You can do word searches from the webpage. If you download the books, you will not be able to search for words as the pages are images of the original book pages and not in text format. After downloading, you might use a PDF to TEXT program to convert it so you can do word searches. If you have broadband speed it will take about 7 mins with a download speed of around 100kb/sec. to download a volume. Dialup speed would take hours. ====================================================================== VOL I. 44.6 mb size. http://books.google.com/books?id=2icbAAAAYAAJ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- VOL II 44.7 MB size. http://books.google.com/books?id=qFRmAAAAMAAJ ======================================================================

Kilmore Church Records were recently available at the 250th Celebrations of Ballinode Parish Church on CD. The name Lindsay was very prominent on these records August of 2005 Hello The above message was posted in August of 2005 to Rootsweb message boards. Does anyone have access to the CD's to do a look up of the Lindsay surname Thanks Lindsey

Margaret, I can't help with your Samuel, but I am also researching the Shortt/Short surname in County Monaghan. My great great grandfather was Bernard Short/Shortt/Shortte. I have been unable to find out anything about him, except for the fact that he was born in County Monaghan about 1834 and came to Philadelphia, PA in 1849 with Patrick Morgan and lived with Bernard Byrne and family in Philadelphia. He later married Bernard Byrne's daughter Elizabeth. If Bernard and Elizabeth followed Irish naming customs, it is possible that his father's name was Peter, since their first son was named Peter. I have been told that Short with it various spellings is a rather rare name in Ireland so I am always interested when I hear someone else is researching that name. Bette in S. FL >It has been some time since I have been researching in County >Monaghan. I am now interested in the parent's names or any information >re the following person: > >Samuel S. Shortt, Princess Victoria's Royal Irish Fusillers, 9th >Battalion, born Glenbrook, County Monaghan, enlisted Monaghan, >residence Three Mile House, County Monaghan, private, number 23589, >died 16/08/1917, killed in action, France & Flanders, Casualty type: >Commonwealth War Dead, Tyne Cot Memorial, Panel 140 to 141. > >I have contacted the Royal Irish Fusillers Museum in Armagh but no >reply as yet. > >Also any information re a Samuel Short birth, 1896, County Tyrone. > >Thanks for any help. Margaret Gordon, London, Ontario

Johanna I'm not sure I've seen a response. My understanding is that the Marquis of Bath retains his English estate records at Longlet, where they survive. Certainly, information on his Somerset and Wiltshire estate is there. It is not available for the public to search, as it is private estate papers. I believe there is an archivist, who may be able to search the records on others behalf, but this is not quick and there may be a fee. This includes information of leases and rents for the English property. There would be nothing on line. What I don't know is whether the Marquis of Bath's estate records would record much information on his ancestor's Irish estate, and anything as detailed as the names of employees on his land in Ireland. I seem to recall that most absentee landlords, such as the Marquis of Bath, appointed an agent to manage their Irish estates, and I'd suspect the detailed records would have been held and created by the agent, with only his ledgers of rents, etc and accounts of income and expenditure likely to make their way to England. Oddly, enough both my parents, despite one being Irish and the other English, have ancestors who were tenants of the Marquis of Bath (or Viscount Weymouth in earlier generations). My father's near Carrickmacross and my mother's near Frome, Somerset. Ellen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johann Willis" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 10:57 AM Subject: [IRL-MONAGHAN] RECORDS - Marquis of Bath Is there anyone who knows if the Marquis of Bath has records of people who were employed by him in possibly the flax/linen industry around 1860 in the Carrickmacross area and are available to search on line? Many thanks. Johanna