Tedevnet RC baptisms have been filmed back to 1835, marriages to 1825. You might find more of the family there. Diane

Hi Lyn, Yes, James Curran was my g g grandfather and he married Ann Connelly. I have their Australian death registrations and their children's birth regs. in digital form and can email them to you. I have come to a brick wall searching Monaghan for information. But maybe we can break that wall down. One of the registrations states Monaghan, Monaghan so, I assumed it was Monaghan Town in County Monaghan. Will have to go to my old computer and transfer the files to my new computer. Oooh this is exciting. Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 4:30 PM Subject: IRL-MONAGHAN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 71 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Curran of Monaghan (Lyn Baker) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 23:33:13 +1000 > From: "Lyn Baker" <[email protected]> > Subject: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Curran of Monaghan > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi I am new to this list and searching for details of James Curran born > around 1810 in Monaghan to Patrick (or James) Curran. He married Ann > Connolly and the couple came to Australia > > > Regards' > Lyn Baker > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-MONAGHAN list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the IRL-MONAGHAN mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRL-MONAGHAN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 71 > ******************************************* >

HI, I am new to this list and wondering if anyone can assist me in where to look next. I have two families I am seraching for: John Ward Smith - son of Bernard Smith and Bridget Ward John Finnegan Smith - son of Michael Smith and ? Finnegan both of these men migrated to Australia and then married here. Would love to try and discover if there is a connection between the two Johns. Regards June Nicholls

"Sharon Perry" <[email protected]> wrote: >Hi Lyn, >.................. >I have come to a brick wall searching Monaghan for information. ................. >Sharon There are very few brick walls in Monaghan. Almost all walls there are made of native stone.... (:- )

Some dates would help. Diane

Hi I am new to this list and searching for details of James Curran born around 1810 in Monaghan to Patrick (or James) Curran. He married Ann Connolly and the couple came to Australia Regards' Lyn Baker

Dear List, I would appreciate if any one is able to help me with information for Davis SLOANE please. I believe his father was John SLOANE of lisabuck. I would also appreciate if someone is able to advise me where the Will (details below) is located, and how I may be able to obtain details of the will. He died in India. Irish Records: Testator Surname: Sloane Testator Given Name: Davis Document Type: Will Document Status: Abstract Date of Will: 1813 NA Reference: T/19756 Thank you for your help. Regards, Jan Australia

Looks like National Archives Reference T/19756 On 19:59, Jan wrote: > NA Reference: T/19756 > >

Dear list, I have been absent for some time now and would like to restart my search for this family in Co. Monaghan. George MOANE b. abt 1813 in Ballintra, Ballybay. He was a farmer/butcher in Ballybay and is buried in Ballintra. His wife was Anne ? His children were Teresa B. ? Thomas b. ? John b. 1840 Bernard.b. 1841 James b. 1844 John (MOAN/MOEN) is my great grandfather and trying to piece together the family is very hard. I wonder if there is anyone who has a link with this family. Thank you, Jackie MOHAN-HARRIS. -- Jackie H. protected by: www.Spamjab.com {ymIdJhswU44QZRcNnv}

The Irish Times site shows the following for Ballybay/Tullycorbet: Church Baptisms Marriages Burials Location Reference Status Tullycorbet Apr 1862 - July 22 1876 (indexed) July 3 1876 - Dec 13 1880 May 27 1862 - June 15 1876 National Library of Ireland Pos. 5573 Open for public research Tullycorbet 1862 - 1875 1876 - 1900 (Ballybay) 1862 - 1876 Monaghan Ancestry Database: commissioned research only Tullycorbet 1862 - 1881 1862 - 1876 Public Record Office of Northern Ireland MIC.1D/16 Open for public research Apparently the LDS haven't filmed. Diane

Hi everyone, I am wondering if records for the above area, Ballybay Roman Catholic Church Records are available anywhere. I have tried the LDS but must be using the incorrect format to view their lists. Any help appreciated, Geraldine

When I started researching my family I didn't know who I was going to find so in my travels I photographed g/stones in ...Clones from 1815, Currin, Glennan, Tyholland, Killeevan, Ballinode, Old Tydavnet, New Tydavnet, Aghabog, Caledon, Clogh, Clonaneese, Tynan, Newbliss amongst others.. In the course of doing this I met quite a few people (with digital cameras) walk around looking for "theirs", these people complained about lack of on line records yet never took any photos that could contribute to the pool of on line data. All the graveyards could have been photographed 20 times over by now if people made some effort. Not everyone lives in or can get to Ireland but it seems that those who do make very little attempt, if any, to make any contribution. The main reason for lack information for Monaghan is the lack of contributors. On 19:59, [email protected] wrote: > I am attempting to determine whether there are Monumental Inscriptions transcribed for the old Clones Parish Churchyard or any other likely Church of Ireland burying grounds in the Parishes of Clones, Drummully or Currin in County Monaghan. Being in Canada, I am having a difficult time trying to determine how many and where all these cemeteries are, and in locating any published transcriptions for them on the Internet. If anyone has any access to such records, or knows which ones exist and which ones don't, I should certainly be very deeply grateful indeed. > > > > >

Hi, I have gravestone inscriptions for St Tierney's, Roslea, Clones parish, on my website. www.rooneys-of-roslea.com Sean -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 31 May 2010 09:04 To: [email protected] Subject: [IRL-MONAGHAN] Seeking Church of Ireland Monumental Inscriptions I am attempting to determine whether there are Monumental Inscriptions transcribed for the old Clones Parish Churchyard or any other likely Church of Ireland burying grounds in the Parishes of Clones, Drummully or Currin in County Monaghan. Being in Canada, I am having a difficult time trying to determine how many and where all these cemeteries are, and in locating any published transcriptions for them on the Internet. If anyone has any access to such records, or knows which ones exist and which ones don't, I should certainly be very deeply grateful indeed. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for potential computer viruses using Messagelabs technology.

The Clarke headstone inscription reads "Erected/ by /Margaret Clarke/ In loving memory of/ her beloved husband/James Clarke and his age was 92. Names on headstones there are Benson, Bothwell, Caldwell, Campbell, Clarke, Cole, Davis, Dunlop, Garland, Gilliland, Greachen, Johnston, McCrum, Montgomery, Mullarchy, Owens, Pedlow, Quinn, Ross, Sharpe, Tarleton, Williamson, Wilson, Wrice, Wright. On 19:59, Christina Finn Hunt wrote: > Thanks to Jack Storey we have additional headstones for Errigal > Truagh, Church of > Ireland& Saint Sillian's, Church of Ireland. I have transcribed the > headstones as well. > To view the additions go to: > http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/index.htm > Click on MONAGHAN from the Table of Counties and then Headstones from > the Monaghan menu. > > To donate data use our submission forms if possible. > http://www.genrecords.org/irfiles/ > > Tomorrow is Memorial Day in the US. One of the graves included someone > who died in action in WWI: > http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/monaghan/photos/tombstones/monaghan-errigal/target23.html > Christina > Leave us a message in our New Guest Book! > >

I am attempting to determine whether there are Monumental Inscriptions transcribed for the old Clones Parish Churchyard or any other likely Church of Ireland burying grounds in the Parishes of Clones, Drummully or Currin in County Monaghan. Being in Canada, I am having a difficult time trying to determine how many and where all these cemeteries are, and in locating any published transcriptions for them on the Internet. If anyone has any access to such records, or knows which ones exist and which ones don't, I should certainly be very deeply grateful indeed.

Thanks to Jack Storey we have additional headstones for Errigal Truagh, Church of Ireland & Saint Sillian's, Church of Ireland. I have transcribed the headstones as well. To view the additions go to: http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/index.htm Click on MONAGHAN from the Table of Counties and then Headstones from the Monaghan menu. To donate data use our submission forms if possible. http://www.genrecords.org/irfiles/ Tomorrow is Memorial Day in the US. One of the graves included someone who died in action in WWI: http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/monaghan/photos/tombstones/monaghan-errigal/target23.html Christina Leave us a message in our New Guest Book!

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I have updated the page with the renaming of one of the columns and the addition of the bits around "Keneth": SEE: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/documents/TABLES/1600-CAVAN-Property.html I have an image of a useful map - but I got it from a source that I now can't trace (because of my sometimes inconsistent record-keeping). It was called "Fig 4 - Ulster plantation allocation of lands in Cavan 1610-20" and the only hint at the title that I have is "Cavan Essays Book" - which sounds more like a description of the book rather than a title. I would suspect that it is covered by copyright, hence I would not be able to share it. Sharon Sharon Oddie Brown Roberts Creek, BC, Canada History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ Some Become Flowers: http://www.harbourpublishing.com/title/SomeBecomeFlowers Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl On 21/05/2010 8:14 AM, Anderson, Shane wrote: > Sharon: > > Never enough proof... > > >>> I do think that one can see clearly how Keneth might be derived from from Cionn Ech ... (Kinnea). >>> > Please see this source: http://www.jstor.org/stable/20566554?seq=31 Go to the source's page 107. > > This confirms CLEARLY that Kinnea was the land given to Stuart (Lord Aubigny ) and later sold to Hamilton. Questions remain, but I'll probably bank some of this off of the placenames project at Queens to get some clarification. > > Thanks. > > Shane > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anderson, Shane > Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 10:35 AM > To: [email protected]; Cavan; MONAGHAN LISTSERVE; LOUTH; [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Properties in Cavan from early 1600s - looking for JACKSONs > > Sharon, > > >>> I am no expert and I also appreciate suggestions for improvement of the materials. >>> > Your Denomination and "Guess at Current Barony Name" appear mostly to be Townland and Townland/Parish references. I can take a run at this if you don't mind. You've done well. > > Please bear in mind that there have been changes in the boundaries of various divisions over the years. I ran into several in Fermanagh. However, for the most part things remain stable enough to get into the ballpark... > > So, for example, this is how I would proceed... > > First on the list... Sir James Hamilton and "Keneth." > > If we look at "The confiscation of Ulster, in the reign of James the first, etc." by Thomas Mac-Nevin, 1846: http://books.google.com/books?id=DNg9AAAAcAAJ&pg=PA171&lpg=PA171&dq=Sir+James+Hamilton+cavan+plantation&source=bl&ots=WY5KmxwfzP&sig=Fm5dAnNtYEAatYf3eEcmgddhbRo&hl=en&ei=T4z2S5XmN8P48AaSwbXXCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CDUQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=Sir%20James%20Hamilton%20cavan%20plantation&f=false > > This shows the 1619 Patent of James Hamilton which included three "Denominations." One of them is Keneth. There are others. We find, however, that this patent was in fact originally given to Esme Stuart, Lord Aubigny. Looking for those records may be of great help. Oft times the best way to crack townland names is to find all of the various spellings, correlate them and map it into the modern name... > > When we cross reference to George Hill's excellent work " An historical account of the plantation in Ulster" here: http://books.google.com/books?id=801i1MUvSG8C&pg=PA308&lpg=PA308&dq=castle+Aubigny+cavan&source=bl&ots=e3AmmesIvv&sig=_NwHwN6v_7j9MR7zTIKD4WY95EM&hl=en&ei=hI_2S62OI4K78gbZ8LXhCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=castle%20Aubigny%20cavan&f=false > > ... we find that Stuart was given "The great proportion of Kinneigh" containing the lands of Corveagh, one poll... etc." > > Having gotten this far, I would then search across townlands in Clankee, (see: http://www.seanruad.com/cgi-bin/iresrch) After doing so, I would posit the notion that your Keneth is in fact Kinneigh, which will easily lend itself to the modern name of the townland of Kinnea, Barony of Clankee, Civil Parish of Knockbride, PLU Bailieborough. I do think that once can see clearly how Keneth might be derived from from Cionn Ech ... (Kinnea). > > So here the "Guess at Current Barony Name" which really should be guess at Townland/Parish or just Townland would be Kinnea, Knockbrige. > > The reference to Corveagh may actually be a reference to the now townland of Cornaveagh also located in Knockbride. We'd need a good townland map to see. From what I can see they are relatively close together, but I think Kinnea is probably pretty close to the truth here. > > I'll do some more on these as I can. > > I hope this will help. > > Shane > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sharon Oddie Brown > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 5:47 PM > To: Cavan; MONAGHAN LISTSERVE; LOUTH; [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] Properties in Cavan from early 1600s - looking for JACKSONs > > I have just completed and posted a number of interrelated pages > concerning early property holdings in Co. Cavan. I am no expert and I > also appreciate suggestions for improvement of the materials. If you > spot any errors (they are virtually guaranteed!), I will fix them ASAP. > I am also sending this to lists of neighbouring counties. I have noticed > that our ancestors did not necessarily stay put - and nearby countries > are places where we can count on them to have strayed. > > Firstly, there is the list that Coote replicated from Pynnar on lands in > 1618-1619 > <http://www.thesilverbowl.com/documents/TABLES/1600s-CavanLandowners.html>. > Secondly, a page where I make a stab at following the older place names > <http://www.thesilverbowl.com/documents/TABLES/1600-CAVAN-Property.html> > into what they are more frequently known as today. > Thirdly, early sightings of JACKSONs in Co. Cavan > <http://www.thesilverbowl.com/history/JACKSONs-Cavan.html>. > Finally, a list of the proprietors in Co. Cavan in 1802 > <http://www.thesilverbowl.com/documents/TABLES/1802CAVAN-Proprietors.html> > - which includes one lone JACKSON. > > All these pages can be linked to from my What's New page if the previous > hyperlinks don't work: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/misc/whatsnew.htm > Enjoy, > Sharon Oddie Brown. >

I have just completed and posted a number of interrelated pages concerning early property holdings in Co. Cavan. I am no expert and I also appreciate suggestions for improvement of the materials. If you spot any errors (they are virtually guaranteed!), I will fix them ASAP. I am also sending this to lists of neighbouring counties. I have noticed that our ancestors did not necessarily stay put - and nearby countries are places where we can count on them to have strayed. Firstly, there is the list that Coote replicated from Pynnar on lands in 1618-1619 <http://www.thesilverbowl.com/documents/TABLES/1600s-CavanLandowners.html>. Secondly, a page where I make a stab at following the older place names <http://www.thesilverbowl.com/documents/TABLES/1600-CAVAN-Property.html> into what they are more frequently known as today. Thirdly, early sightings of JACKSONs in Co. Cavan <http://www.thesilverbowl.com/history/JACKSONs-Cavan.html>. Finally, a list of the proprietors in Co. Cavan in 1802 <http://www.thesilverbowl.com/documents/TABLES/1802CAVAN-Proprietors.html> - which includes one lone JACKSON. All these pages can be linked to from my What's New page if the previous hyperlinks don't work: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/misc/whatsnew.htm Enjoy, Sharon Oddie Brown. -- Sharon Oddie Brown Roberts Creek, BC, Canada History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ Some Become Flowers: http://www.harbourpublishing.com/title/SomeBecomeFlowers Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl