have been added to the IGP Archives. http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/monaghan/photos/tombstones/monaghan_st_patricks_plaques/index.html Thanks to Dave Hall for adding a few more. This is an example of how we collaborate to provide more information. :) Regards, Christina http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ ===============================

Still looking for ANY info re Julia Elizabeth (Elizabeth Julia) LAWLOR (1820 more or less), maybe Castleblaney. I have been looking for years. Emigrated to Canada early 1830's. Jan

Was just preparing stuff in preparations for doing research for someone in Co. Monaghan. On the back of 1821 census abstracts I decided to pull this stuff from First Monaghan Pres. Church in 1821. Apart from Monaghan Parish some people travelled from the following 4 PARISHES and townlands into Monaghan town to attend this church. I know one person who actually lived within a 100 yards of their local church in Donagh but yet they travelled into Monaghan town which was quite a reasonable distance in those days esp with 6 kids...(It would be far enough today with 6 kids!!). Here's the 4 Parishes and townlands; TEDAVNET; Aghaboy, Clonkeady, Coolkill East, Creesil, Crosses, Drumbenagh, Drumbier, Drumcoo, Drumlara, Drumshanny, Glassdrumman, Killycreen, Killydonnelly, Legacurry, Lemaculla, Milltown, Mullyera, Newgrove, Raconnel, Rafeenan, Rosefield, Sheetrim, Tate, Tattygare, Telaydan, The Point, Tullycroman, Tullygony, Tullyvogy DONAGH; Billis, Cloghnart, Coraghduff, Drumgeeny, Eden Island, Kilnadreen, Lisboy, Straghan, Tirnaneill KILMORE; Aughnamallagh, Cornaclare, Darraghlan, Drumaclan, Drumgarve, Kilnaclay, Tirmadown TYHOLLAND; Corbeg, Corvally, Drumgoole, Terrycaffe, Tullynanure So while someone may have lived E.G. in Donagh, it doesn't mean they attended church in that parish. So if you can't find someone who lived in a certain townland in their "expected" parish church they may have travelled elsewhere too, regardless of religion. Townlands and parishes are only good indicators of where to start looking but as the above list clearly shows they are just indicators! I don't have 2nd Monaghan Pres. Church (Ballyalbany) done yet but expect it would be quite similar. If you can't find yours where they should be then look elsewhere....it wasn't illegal to attend a different parish or church then or now. I did research for someone else whose family lived in Co. Monaghan but they couldn't find them, they lived near Monaghan/Cavan border and actually attended church in Co. Cavan. The family couldn't find them because they only looked in Co. Monaghan for them. With many people attending church in other parishes etc, here are some Monaghan people getting married in Cork, Dublin and Kerry which may be useful to someone! 83 Marriages. 1 Burial. 14 Baptisms. http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/search.... <http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/search.jsp?name=&name2=&location=Monaghan&dd=&mm=&yy=&diocese=DUBLIN+%28COI%29&parish=&century=&decade=&type=M&sort=&pageSize=100&submit=Search> The site is being added to, so worth checking back every now and then. If you look at the above records you will see perfect examples of how flexible you need to be with spellings etc. Knowing the various locations there are some that are "slightly" in error... Newtown Butter for Newtownbutler for example!! Some classics too! You can just put in MINIGHAM in the Location box and you'll get a Monaghan record! So, if you can't find yours at the local church, then look elsewhere!

I'm looking for Charles SLOWEY. I imagine he was born around the 1800 period. He married Mary (surname unknown) who was born abt 1822 in Co. Cavan. I have three known children who were all resident in Manchester, England on the 1851 census. Margaret Ann Slowey born 1822 Co. Cavan Denis Slowey born 1824 (no birth location other than Ireland) Patrick Slowey (no birth date or birth location) Family were Roman Catholic At the marriage of Denis Slowey in Manchester 1858, the father, Charles Slowey is shown as "of Monaghan" This does not necessarily mean he was born in Monaghan, but probably means he was "of Monaghan" at this given date of 1858. But I suspect he was likely born in Monaghan or Cavan. Charles may or may not have been deceased as of 1858. Any information on the name of SLOWEY in the period around 1800-1850 would be welcome. Especially names of parishes/townlands where this name was concentrated. Regards Jane Coop (West Yorks, England)

Search for Slowey in Ulster in the Griffith's index on failteromhat.com and you'll see almost all in the mid-1800s were from Clones in Monaghan. Diane

Good Morning: I have traced my maternal ancestry back to John NELSON of Clones, Monaghan, Ireland. The problem is, there seems to be an abundance of John NELSON's in Clones in the time frame I'm researching. In an Upper Canada Land Petition, dated June 12, 1820, John NELSON states: "That your Petitioner is a native of Clones, county of Monaghan, Ireland, that he arrived in this Province a fortnight ago with his wife and eight children, three of whom are of age and five under..." In another Upper Canada Land Petition, dated June 28, 1820, John NELSON states: "That your Petitioner is a native of Clones in the County of Monaghan, Ireland, from whence he emigrated about a year ago, and has resided in this Province about one month. That your Petitioner has a family of a wife and two children..." Based upon other land records which I have obtained, the two John NELSON's were referred to as "John NELSON the elder" and "John NELSON the younger" I have searched the IGI, but have been unable to find two families of John NELSON's that meet the descriptions above. I know for a fact that one of the John NELSON's was married to Sarah BLAKELEY, and that they had a daughter named Isabella, who was Baptised in Clones on 31 Dec 1803. Can anyone offer any suggestions on how to sort this out? Thanks in advance... Dennis Galley, Port Elgin, Ontario, Canada

I have just added photos of Plaques from St. Patrick's. The photos were taken by Jack Storey. I have added some text to the pages. Some of the transcriptions I found on Google Books. To view go to: http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ Click on Monaghan from the Table of Counties and then Headstones. Enjoy! Christina ===============================

Was just reading the cemetery listing for the Braddox Presbytarian Church in Monoghan County. There is another church just down the road from this church which I also believe is a Presbytarian church in Clontibret, does anyone know if a gravesite listings has been done on this burial site? I do know that Rev. Drennan was also the pastor of this church. . In a message dated 7/19/2010 10:34:50 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) writes: Just wondering why people looking for church records etc don't say what religion they are looking for. Just spent ages looking through Tedavnet records for someone only to be told (after the fact!) "Oh no...they were Catholic!".... What a waste of time! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all, Not strictly a genealogy question, but I was wondering if anyone on the list would know if there are any photos of the Presbyterian Church at Scotstown, Co. Monaghan in existence? I'm part of a local heritage group and we are doing some research into the church and the graveyard. The church was in existence on the the site since at least the 1840's until it was demolished in the 1960's. The small adjoining graveyard is still there with a dozen or so headstones. Any information would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Seán   

Lots of early pictures of Co. Monaghan ... http://catalogue.nli.ie/Search/Results?lookfor=Monaghan&type=AllFields&filte r%5B%5D=format%3A%22Photo%22&filter%5B%5D=digitised%3A%22Digitised%22 Lots more from all over the country: http://www.nli.ie/digital-photographs.aspx Many mis-identified. Wonder who transcribed this material?? Enjoy... Ann Virginia USA

Janet, I think Diane's suggestion about the Tullanacurnat townlands probably being the Tulnagrinic townland mentioned, is a good one. As far as Clonavogy townland is concerned, the one in Donaghmoyne civil parish is about 2 miles SW of the Tullanacurnat townlands. There is another nearby Clonavogy townland, however...... located in Clontibret civil parish and a bit less than 2 miles NW of Tullanacurnat. Pete - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts </HTML>

Not sure where that information is coming from Dave, but it wouldn't be accurate. The majority of headstones in Tydavnet Old Graveyard are Catholic, mirroring the religious makeup of the parish through the years, where the majority of the population was Catholic, and the various Protestant denominations were in the minority. Many of these Catholic surnames are still common in the Parish, some families are even still resident in the townlands mentioned on memorials. However, the gap between the years of the memorials and the available written records makes research difficult, if not impossible in many cases! Most Church of Ireland (Protestant) burials finish at Tydavnet Old Graveyard once the new C of I parish church was built in the nearby village of Ballinode around 1755, and people of that faith were buried at Ballinode. Presbyterian burials in the Tydavnet Old Graveyard may have continued into the 19th century, as the closest Presbyterian graveyard in Scotstown village didn't come into operation until around the mid 1800's.  Anyone interested in Tydavnet Old Graveyard should consult the article by Rev Bernard O'Daly in the Clogher Record,  Vol. 1, No. 2 (1954), pp. 43-55 and his excellent work of transcribing the 200+ memorials. And of course the graveyard itself is well worth a visit in person - although the inscriptions on the headstones can be very difficult to make out. Which makes the work of O'Daly and the modern day mapping/signage all the more valuable! Regards, Seán  

There's a Clonavogy townland in Donaghmoyne parish, as well as Tullanacurnat North and South. Moreover, there were Whites in Tullanacurnat at the time of Griffith's, and an Irwin elsewhere in Donaghmoyne. Diane

Hello, I recently received a "clue" but I'm having no luck finding the correct spelling for this townland. I'm hoping someone with some Gaelic background might be able to decipher: Tulnagrinic. I have looked at townland lists and I find lots of Tullyna.... but nothing that I would dare put a map pin in. I am working on our WHITE/IRWIN lineage. Susan Irwin married Richard White in 1819 they were living in TULNAGRINIC townland in County Monaghan. In 1822 they were living in CLONAVOGY townland in county Monaghan. She was born in 1781 or 1791 and I do not know which is accurate. After Richard died, her son Joseph White went to Quebec, then brought the rest of his family, including Susan to Canada. I have collected quite a bit from this point to now. Thanks for any help or pointers! Janet

Before I mentioned the religion of both the old and new cemeteries I just needed verification on the mixtures of religions in both g/yards which I have now received. The old g/yard is Protestant, mainly Presbyterian with 1 Catholic g/stone. This g/stone is next to notice board and faces opposite direction to the others. The new g/yard is completely RC. All that's needed now is for every cemetery to follow this example..

Hi Geraldine, The new graveyard is almost (if not completely) a Catholic graveyard, but unlike most graveyards in the county it is under the care of Monaghan County Council rather than the local church. The old part of the graveyard is mixed (Catholic/Protestant), and it was closed in 1910. I think the new graveyard dates from about this time. A local heritage group (volunteers) erected the maps and signage recently, and deserve great credit for their work. Seán --- On Thu, 9/9/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: Hello Everyone, I saw the above named graveyard which has too possible listings for family ancestors and I am wondering if there is a site that tells you the religion of those buried there. Thank you for your help. Geraldine

    Hello Everyone, I saw the above named graveyard which has too possible listings for family ancestors and I am wondering if there is a site that tells you the religion of those buried there.   Thank you for your help. Geraldine

I have just uploaded a Photo of the signs showing families buried at New Tedavnet. The map shows the plot #, family name and townland. The photos were transcribed by Kathleen Myers so you can view that since the photos are a bit hard to make out. To view go to: http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ Click on MONAGHAN and then Headstones. Thanks to Dave Hall for sharing the photos. Regards, Christina ===============================

Allen Richard Mitchell was born in 1825 to William Mitchell a farmer. His mothers first name was likely Mary. According to his death certificate he was born in Monaghan. Allen was not the first child and moved around quite a bit. His marraige certificate (most likely his second marrage) was June 1 1860 in Tuam, Galway to Jane D'Arcy. >From Tuam he moved to Derrigimlagh near Daly Hill, several miles south of Ballyconneely, Galway. The family lived in a Protestant Mission settlement from 1875 to some time near 1900. The date is misleading in church records becasue he moved to Canada sometime around 1882 and may have travelled back and forth or sent for family members over this period of time. He and two sons where sponserered by the McCormick family in York Region north of Toronto where they worked as farmers and labourers. The oldest son Tom went to Australia. I have lots of details about Allen and his decendents but my brick wall is his mother, siblings and father. I recently found a LDS family tree that showed details of Tom and his family tree. They seem unaware of the Canadian branch of the family. Tom married Isabella Goodsell in NSW. They had seven children and the current family may still live near Mareeba Queensland. The last person I have information on there is Donald Elmer George Mitchell who died in 1991. ( Ihave already left my contact information in his cemetary file). If these names mean anything to you or you can suggest ways to find connections to Donald's family please let me know. I have lots of info to provide and am hoping maybe somebody there can help me with my brick wall. Peter Mitchell

If anyone has access to the Church of Ireland Parish Registers for the Parish of Clones I should be most grateful to know what address, location or place of residence is listed for the family of Robert Rickey at the time of christening of his daughter Sarah on or about 16 November 1845. Thank you very much indeed for any kindness or help whatever in this matter.