My family appears in the Ballivor, Kildalkey church records with 2 children baptized there 1845 and 1847 - mother Margaret McGuire (this is probably her home parish) and father William Lightholder (I believe he was from the Navan area). The LDS film numbers are: 0926163, British Film: Ballivor, Co. Meath, Ireland Parish Register; 1596994, British Film: Killaconnigan & Kildalkey, Co. Meath, Ireland Records; 0596897, Irish Records, Co. Meath, Ireland. My notes on the films follow. Readers should bear in mind the closest LDS branch library has 4 old style readers (not printers and hand crank), with 2 of the 4 being too light and too dark. You might do better with better equipment. Film 1596994 needs a reader with an enlarger. This film gives much historical background, but no particular genealogical material was found. I made a note to see about buying this film to look at it leisurely. More on that later. Film 596897 seems to have miscellaneous civil records, such as High Court of Justice in Ireland's Queen's Branch. Records are listed by an item number. I found one civil suit involving Lightholders in 1895. Need time to look at this film also. Film 926163 has records for Ballivor Parish in Meath Diocese. Baptisms 12 Feb 1837 to 9 Dec 1880; Marriages 7 Apr 1837 to 12 July 1880; Deaths 12 Feb 1837 to 16 Nov 1880. This film was easier to read than the other two, which isn't saying much. For those interested in Ballivor, in 2002 a young relative went over to Scotland as an exchange student and did a side trip to Co. Meath, visiting Lightholders in the Navan area (where I visited in 1980) and did a quick trip to Ballivor, where she took 4 photos. While they don't show much, they are better than nothing. Please email me privately if you would like a scan of them. I called the LDS in Salt Lake asking about buying the films. They are not for sale. The person there said I should have our LDS branch library order new equipment, if theirs was that bad. Since I am not a Mormon, I found this suggestion impractical and did not do it. I should try another LDS branch library, but haven't done it yet. It is my understanding that Killaconnigan is not covered in the Tithe Applotment lists (source: Valerie Adams and Brian Trainor, "Tithe Applotment Books Ireland 1824-1838: Gaps in the Archive", FAMILIA [quarterly], Vol. 2, No. 1, 1985, p. 102). In Brian Mitchell's A GUIDE TO IRISH PARISH REGISTERS, both civil parishes of Kildalkey and Killaconnigan are listed as including Roman Catholic Churches in Ballivor and Kildalkey, with records beginning in 1837. Thus, at least part of Ballivor and Kildalkey would not be covered in the Tithe lists. Linda Lightholder Kmiecik ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 9:44 AM Subject: [MEATH] KILDALKEY - Townland Question > Fay, > > In answer to your question about what they were referring to when they > mentioned the place in Ireland they were from, I've seen different things. A US > death record mentioned the townland. An Ellis Island record mentioned the nearest > village. Another mentioned the last place they stayed before sailing or where > they sailed from. I doubt they would have used the civil parish as a > location. > > This may not be of much help but the RC church parish is Ballivor and > Kildalkey. My family (Coyne and Duignan) came from the neighboring RC parish of > Killyon. When I looked at the church records in the National Library in Dublin > (may also be available through Latter Day Saints Library) in many instances it > mentioned the townland next to the family name. That helped me sort out on > which townland my ancestors lived. > > Regards, > Ray FitzGerald > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Fay Finn > To: [email protected] > Sent: 29 July 2003 6:26 AM > Subject: [MEATH] townland question > > > Just a general question: How can a person find out what townland an > ancestor is from? Mine is from Kildalkey, but that is the name of a civil > parish as well as a townland. There are dozens of townlands in that civil > parish. When people said where they were from, did they usually mean the > townland or the parish? Thanks. Fay > > ______________________________