There are definitely no Catholic parish records available for the 1748/49 time frame; that was in the unmodified phase of Penal Times. However, I doubt whether James Nugent was Catholic. At that time, Catholic Irish could not become officers in the British army, so the job had little attraction except for those who were exceedingly hard up. Those who went into the miltary were more likely to go to France or Spain and enlist in the armies of those Catholic countries, where they encountered no discrimination. Assuming that he was a Protestant, there may be Church of Ireland records that go back that far. If he married in the Anglican Church and/or had his children baptized there, that would give a clue as to what Protestant denomination you are looking for. If your ancestor happened to be a Presbyterian, there is a center in Dublin that has a collection of records available for that denomiination. You could also consult the National Library of Ireland web page, which has a link to allow you to check their holdings, to see what they have that might help you. Since I only have had occasion to look for Catholic ancestors, I don't know how far back the Presbyterian records go, but I should suspect that 1748/49 is pushing the limit even in that case. You might also want to check the Library for Methodist records. There were a lot of Methodists in Ireland by that period in time. There are a few other possibilities. The Nugents (at least some of them) were major landholders in Meath and Louth, so the one you want might appear on tax rolls. Nancy Gray ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 7:36 AM Subject: [MEATH] NEW TO LIST-loads of questions!! > Hi Everyone > I have just received the army discharge papers for James Cooke NUGENT who > gives his place of birth as in or near Oldcastle Kilbride c 1748/9 > Please can anyone tell me what PR's are available for that time? I don't know > what denomination he was but I don't think he was Catholic or at least his > children did not marry in Catholic Church's after they had moved to London. > At one time James was in the Meath Militia- where can I find their records if > they still exist? > I am new to research in Ireland - where do I start? > And finally is anyone lese researching the NUGENT surname in this area? > many regards > MOIRA > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > Ballykinlar Prison Book online: > http://irelandgenealogyprojects.rootsweb.com/Ballykinlar/intro.htm >
----- Original Message ----- From: "N A Gray" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [MEATH] NEW TO LIST-loads of questions!! There are definitely no Catholic parish records available for the 1748/49 time frame; that was in the unmodified phase of Penal Times. However, I doubt whether James Nugent was Catholic. At that time, Catholic Irish could not become officers in the British army, so the job had little attraction except for those who were exceedingly hard up. Those who went into the miltary were more likely to go to France or Spain and enlist in the armies of those Catholic countries, where they encountered no discrimination. Assuming that he was a Protestant, there may be Church of Ireland records that go back that far. If he married in the Anglican Church and/or had his children baptized there, that would give a clue as to what Protestant denomination you are looking for. If your ancestor happened to be a Presbyterian, there is a center in Dublin that has a collection of records available for that denomiination. You could also consult the National Library of Ireland web page, which has a link to allow you to check their holdings, to see what they have that might help you. Since I only have had occasion to look for Catholic ancestors, I don't know how far back the Presbyterian records go, but I should suspect that 1748/49 is pushing the limit even in that case. You might also want to check the Library for Methodist records. There were a lot of Methodists in Ireland by that period in time. There are a few other possibilities. The Nugents (at least some of them) were major landholders in Meath and Louth, so the one you want might appear on tax rolls. Nancy Gray ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Wow Nancy - THAT's what I call an answer to a lister's question! Well done! Bryan in Wales _______/|\----------------/|\_____________/||=====||\_____ ...from Border Monmouthshire, between the Severn bridges See a Monmouthshire village at work: Visit the Caerwent Community website www.caerwentcom.com