G'Day Folks, In the 1881 British Census, my g.grandfather, Joseph HODGINS, is recorded as a "Firman" (possibly Fireman) aged 40 and born in County Meath, Ireland. He was living 50A, Lancaster St, Kirkdale, Liverpool, Lancashire, England, with his Liverpool-born wife, Jessie, and 4 children. If anyone recognises Joseph as being a member of their mob, I would be very pleased to hear from them. Jim Pennington, Melbourne Australia Researching: PENNINGTON WORRALL BOND HODGINS CUMINE

I'm looking for the family of my ggrandfather PETER CALLAGHAN he was born in KISKYRE, MEATH in JUNE1858. His parents names were PHILIP CALLAGHAN and ANNE SHERIDAN. He had at least 1 sister named MARGARET born AUG.24,1969. I'd like to know if anyone knows anything about the family. Or if there were more children. PETER immigrated in 1886 and married my ggrandmother JANE MCDERMOTT also from MEATH. They married in PHILA. in SEPT.1889. And had 3 children ANNA, JOHN, THOMAS(my grandfather). PETER died in PHILA. APRIL 3,1922.

Take a look at this: http://www.rootsweb.com/~fianna/guide/census.html Paul -----Original Message----- From: Don Kelly [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 4:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MEATH] Grange, Castletown-Kilpatrick My goodness. That is a hard one. I have never separated data by electoral districts. If such districts are county based, or civil district based, sorting your records might be a might easier. Having townlands, diocese; civil, protestant and catholic, baronies, counties, provinces and whatever to deal with, (have I forgotten anything?) are already confusing enough.<GRIN> Don ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 12:30 PM Subject: [MEATH] Grange, Castletown-Kilpatrick > Hell! > I need some help from you experts out there!! > > I attempted to look up my ancestors in the 1911 census that I rented from the > LDS. I thought the townlands would be listed by Parish. Instead I found out > that they are listed by Electoral District. > > Can anybody tell me how to find out the Electoral District for the Townland > of Grange, in the Parish of Castletown-KIlpatrick? > > Thnaks in advance for any help you can give me. > > Barbara > :-) > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > Visit The Roscommon Database for uncommon records: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlros/ > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.363 / Virus Database: 201 - Release Date: 5/21/02 ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== In your search for records, keep in mind that in old Ireland, borders for provinces, baronies, counties, archdiocese, diocese and townlands moved with swings of the battle axe. Check nearby places for records.

HI, I HOPE THIS HELPS YOU HERE IS THE ADDRESS FOR THE PARISH OF CASTLETOWN-KILPATRICK ST. PATRICK'S- CASTLETOWN-KILPATRICK ST. COLMCILLE'S- FLETCHERSTOWN VERY REV. JOSEPH CLAVIN PP PAROCHIAL HOUSE- CASTLETOWN-KILPATRICK NAVAN, CO. MEATH TEL - 046-54142 I HOPE THIS HELPS YOU ! EILEEN

Hell! I need some help from you experts out there!! I attempted to look up my ancestors in the 1911 census that I rented from the LDS. I thought the townlands would be listed by Parish. Instead I found out that they are listed by Electoral District. Can anybody tell me how to find out the Electoral District for the Townland of Grange, in the Parish of Castletown-KIlpatrick? Thnaks in advance for any help you can give me. Barbara :-)

My goodness. That is a hard one. I have never separated data by electoral districts. If such districts are county based, or civil district based, sorting your records might be a might easier. Having townlands, diocese; civil, protestant and catholic, baronies, counties, provinces and whatever to deal with, (have I forgotten anything?) are already confusing enough.<GRIN> Don ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 12:30 PM Subject: [MEATH] Grange, Castletown-Kilpatrick > Hell! > I need some help from you experts out there!! > > I attempted to look up my ancestors in the 1911 census that I rented from the > LDS. I thought the townlands would be listed by Parish. Instead I found out > that they are listed by Electoral District. > > Can anybody tell me how to find out the Electoral District for the Townland > of Grange, in the Parish of Castletown-KIlpatrick? > > Thnaks in advance for any help you can give me. > > Barbara > :-) > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > Visit The Roscommon Database for uncommon records: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlros/ > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.363 / Virus Database: 201 - Release Date: 5/21/02

Ivy at [email protected] writes: << I believe a bridge over the canal is still called Ollard Bridge. Surely there is a village near this that somebody can name for me? >> OK, Ivy, I may be able to help (if not, then confuse) you. But first we have to make a few changes in order to make things work-out. First, the Ollard-Allard thing doesn't seem to be too much of a problem. If I substituted Royal Canal for Grand Canal, would that be acceptable? And supposing the mysterious bridge were not in Co. Meath....or even Westmeath....but in Co. Longford. Would that still pass muster? If so, - - surprise !! There is an Allard Bridge across the Royal Canal in Co. Longford, less than two miles west of Abbeyshrule and less than three mile NE of Ballymahon. The bridge is in the townland of Kilmacarrow, and the surrounding townlands are Taghshinny, Kilcurry and Tennalick - all in Taghshinny civil parish. Nearby, to the south across the Inny River, are the townlands of Pallas Beg, Pallas More and Cloghan - all in Forgney civil parish. There is an existing church, of unspecified denomination, in Taghshinny - just a half mile N. of the bridge. Checking my records, I discovered that I was in Taghshinny in Sept. 2000, to photograph an early Christian cross-slab in the church graveyard. The slab was eroded beyond recognition, so I didn't photograph it. And I can't tell you much about the church, either, as I didn't record any information about it.....other than that is has a cemetery associated with it. Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

I'm looking for the family of my ggrandfather PETER CALLAGHAN he was born in KILSKYRE MEATH in JUNE 1858. His parents names were PHILIP CALLAGHAN AND ANNE SHERIDAN. Had 1 sister that I know of. Her name was Margaret CALLAGHAN she was born in AUG. 24, 1869. I'd like to find other siblings if he had them. My ggrandfather PETER immigrated in 1888 and married my ggrandmother JANE MCDERMOTT also of MEATH in PHILA. in SEPT. 1889 at ST. AGATHA'S CHURCH, They had 3 children ANNA, JOHN, THOMAS(my grandfather) PETER CALLAGHAN died April 3,1922 in PHILA. I'd like to find out about his parents and siblings. EILEEN

Hi one & all, I did not realize but here in the East "Searching Ancient Ireland" was on at 8:00 PM. So, next week look for it at 8:00 instead of 9:00 PM in some areas of the US. For those of you who didn't see it & would like to purchase it -- the cost is $24. 95 or $24.98 -- go to: PBS.org Sorry about the time mix up! :) Happy hunting, Helen (DCGS)

Ivy: Have you tried the genforum website or ancestry.com? On the genforum website there is a "forum" for the Allard name but not for Ollard. I found one family with a William Allard descendant from Wiltshire in Kent. Good hunting. Judy in NC ----- Original Message ----- From: ivytrott <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: June 13, 2002 3:07 AM Subject: [MEATH] One last try > > Is anybody out there researching OLLARD or ALLARD originating in Co. Meath > then living in Middlesex, London with a short break to Woolwich, Kent. > Known are a WILLIAM OLLARD who was a bootmaker, his son WILLIAM who married > MARGARET HESK (they were in Woolwich when their first son was born), their > son WILLIAM who died at about 21 in 1881 - just making the census which > says he was born in Ireland. > > Meath is the only county in which I have found any Ollard family at all, but > they changed their name to Allard a few generations ago. I did contact one > elderly man who was an Allard but he could not find a connecting link and > stopped writing - perhaps he died. He was a snail mail contact. Said his > grandfather signed his marriage certificate Allard in error, liked the look > of it, and kept it up. The name had been Ollard. > > There were said to be Ollard families along the Grand Canal, and they were > known as the Cobbler Ollards. I believe a bridge over the canal is still > called Ollard Bridge. Surely there is a village near this that somebody can > name for me? Or a historical record somewhere of the naming of the bridge > and why it was so named? > > I have tried for years to break down this brick wall! Please help if you > can. > > Go well. Ivy Trott in Fish Hoek, Cape Province, South Africa. > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > In your search for records, keep in mind that in old Ireland, borders for provinces, baronies, counties, archdiocese, diocese and townlands moved with swings of the battle axe. Check nearby places for records. >

Is anybody out there researching OLLARD or ALLARD originating in Co. Meath then living in Middlesex, London with a short break to Woolwich, Kent. Known are a WILLIAM OLLARD who was a bootmaker, his son WILLIAM who married MARGARET HESK (they were in Woolwich when their first son was born), their son WILLIAM who died at about 21 in 1881 - just making the census which says he was born in Ireland. Meath is the only county in which I have found any Ollard family at all, but they changed their name to Allard a few generations ago. I did contact one elderly man who was an Allard but he could not find a connecting link and stopped writing - perhaps he died. He was a snail mail contact. Said his grandfather signed his marriage certificate Allard in error, liked the look of it, and kept it up. The name had been Ollard. There were said to be Ollard families along the Grand Canal, and they were known as the Cobbler Ollards. I believe a bridge over the canal is still called Ollard Bridge. Surely there is a village near this that somebody can name for me? Or a historical record somewhere of the naming of the bridge and why it was so named? I have tried for years to break down this brick wall! Please help if you can. Go well. Ivy Trott in Fish Hoek, Cape Province, South Africa.

I looked at the 1850 directory of Dublin for Ollard /Allard and saw no reference to the name. Nor the bridge. Good hunting Margaret Carlson -----Original Message----- From: ivytrott <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:40 AM Subject: [MEATH] One last try > > Is anybody out there researching OLLARD or ALLARD originating in Co. Meath >then living in Middlesex, London with a short break to Woolwich, Kent. >Known are a WILLIAM OLLARD who was a bootmaker, his son WILLIAM who married >MARGARET HESK (they were in Woolwich when their first son was born), their >son WILLIAM who died at about 21 in 1881 - just making the census which >says he was born in Ireland. > >Meath is the only county in which I have found any Ollard family at all, but >they changed their name to Allard a few generations ago. I did contact one >elderly man who was an Allard but he could not find a connecting link and >stopped writing - perhaps he died. He was a snail mail contact. Said his >grandfather signed his marriage certificate Allard in error, liked the look >of it, and kept it up. The name had been Ollard. > >There were said to be Ollard families along the Grand Canal, and they were >known as the Cobbler Ollards. I believe a bridge over the canal is still >called Ollard Bridge. Surely there is a village near this that somebody can >name for me? Or a historical record somewhere of the naming of the bridge >and why it was so named? > >I have tried for years to break down this brick wall! Please help if you >can. > >Go well. Ivy Trott in Fish Hoek, Cape Province, South Africa. > > >==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== >In your search for records, keep in mind that in old Ireland, borders for provinces, baronies, counties, archdiocese, diocese and townlands moved with swings of the battle axe. Check nearby places for records. >

Hello Paul & Eileen Thank you both so much for your messages. I will have a look at the Diocese of Meath's web page and also check the townland/parish one. I made a note at some time that Killallon is the Civil Parish and Clonmellon the RC Parish. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul E. Dowling <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 10:19 PM Subject: RE: [MEATH] BOURKE/BURKE > Here's the web page for Diocese of Meath > http://homepage.eircom.net/~meathdiocese/page8.html. It's in the Archdiocese > of Dublin. I couldn't find the townland name you mentioned. The page I gave > you has a townland with a name close to it. > > Try http://www.seanruad.com/ to find your townland/parish. > > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 7:19 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MEATH] BOURKE/BURKE > HI > > TRY TO CONTACT THE LOCALA CHURCH FOR RECORDS THATS WHAT > I DID. THE ARCHDIOCESE OF MEATH HAS A WEBSITE. TO GET THE EXACT > PARISH.OR DO YOU HAVE A LDS FAMILY CENTER NEAR YOU THEY KEEP > VERY GOOD RECORDS. IRELAND STARTED KEEPING CIVIL RECORDS IN > 1864. > > EILEEN PS. GOD HUNTING, I HOPE THIS HELPS > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > Our Lister's Homepages, Callan www.falgen.org/callan/ >

I forgot this: http://interactive2.iol.ie/maps/content/iolmap.asp Paul -----Original Message----- From: Pat and Noel Upsall [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 1:25 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MEATH] BOURKE/BURKE Hello Paul & Eileen Thank you both so much for your messages. I will have a look at the Diocese of Meath's web page and also check the townland/parish one. I made a note at some time that Killallon is the Civil Parish and Clonmellon the RC Parish. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul E. Dowling <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 10:19 PM Subject: RE: [MEATH] BOURKE/BURKE > Here's the web page for Diocese of Meath > http://homepage.eircom.net/~meathdiocese/page8.html. It's in the Archdiocese > of Dublin. I couldn't find the townland name you mentioned. The page I gave > you has a townland with a name close to it. > > Try http://www.seanruad.com/ to find your townland/parish. > > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 7:19 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MEATH] BOURKE/BURKE > HI > > TRY TO CONTACT THE LOCALA CHURCH FOR RECORDS THATS WHAT > I DID. THE ARCHDIOCESE OF MEATH HAS A WEBSITE. TO GET THE EXACT > PARISH.OR DO YOU HAVE A LDS FAMILY CENTER NEAR YOU THEY KEEP > VERY GOOD RECORDS. IRELAND STARTED KEEPING CIVIL RECORDS IN > 1864. > > EILEEN PS. GOD HUNTING, I HOPE THIS HELPS > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > Our Lister's Homepages, Callan www.falgen.org/callan/ > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== In your search for records, keep in mind that in old Ireland, borders for provinces, baronies, counties, archdiocese, diocese and townlands moved with swings of the battle axe. Check nearby places for records.

I'M LOOKING FOR FAMILY MEMBERS OF MY GGRANDMOTHER JANEMCDERMOTT SHE WAS BORN IN KELLS, MEATH ON SEPT.18,1864. HER PARENTS NAMES WERE MATTHEW MCDERMOTT AND BRIDGET SULLY. SHE WAS 1 OF 16 CHILDREN. I KNOW A FEW OF HER SIBLINGS NAMES. KATE-BORN AUG.24,1866, BRIDGET BORN FEB.9,1869, ANNE- BORN JUNE4,1971. I'D LIKE TO TRY AND FIND THE OTHER NAMES OF HER SIBLINGS. I WAS TOLD BY FAMILY SOME STAYED IN IRELAND, SOME CAME TO AMERICA, AND SOME WENT TO AUSTRAILIA. JANE IMMIGRATED TO AMERICA IN 1888 AND MARRIED MY GGRANDFATHER PETER CALLAGHAN IN SEPT.1889 IN PHILA. AT OUR MOTHER OF SORROWS CHURCH. THE HAD 3 CHILDREN ANNA, JOHN, THOMAS(MYGRANDFATHER). EILEEN

Hello all I am new to the list and am writing in the hope that someone may be able to assist me. My husband's gt.grandfather, Ralph Burke, migrated to NSW, Australia in 1858 aged 28 yrs, together with his brother, Thomas, aged 29 yrs. They had a brother, Henry, who was already living in the Colony. The shipping records state that Ralph was a farm labourer, religion RC, and came from Killallon, County Meath. His father's name was William and mother's Mary. I think that Ralph was short for 'Raphael' as he called one of his sons by that name. I would be grateful if someone could advise me where I could find some information on this family in Co. Meath. With many thanks Pat Upsall - Tuross Head on the Sth. Coast of NSW, Australia

How I would love to see it, but hardly able to be received here in New Zealand..... Maybe some day it will be on our SkyTV, (pay TV channel,) I hope so. Enjoy... Beryl Auckland ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 10:34 AM Subject: [MEATH] Ancient Ireland on PBS this Wed. -- 3 part series > Hi list, > > I received the following today & thought it would be of interest! :) > > Happy hunting, Helen (DCGS) > > This is a three part series airing on PBS in my area Wednesday night > at 9 PM. > > Ancient Ireland is the land of Celtic mysticism, mythical heroes, > shamrocks, and St. Patrick. But what is truth and what is > legend? To find out, IN SEARCH OF ANCIENT IRELAND journeys across the > centuries to explore fabled Erin's remarkable past and uncover the real > story behind the island nation's rich global legacy. > > Check out the website at: > http://www.pbs.org/wnet/ancientireland/ > > > > > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > All outgoing mail virus free, > scanned by Norton 2002 > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > In your search for records, keep in mind that in old Ireland, borders for provinces, baronies, counties, archdiocese, diocese and townlands moved with swings of the battle axe. Check nearby places for records. >

Here's the web page for Diocese of Meath http://homepage.eircom.net/~meathdiocese/page8.html. It's in the Archdiocese of Dublin. I couldn't find the townland name you mentioned. The page I gave you has a townland with a name close to it. Try http://www.seanruad.com/ to find your townland/parish. Paul -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 7:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MEATH] BOURKE/BURKE HI TRY TO CONTACT THE LOCALA CHURCH FOR RECORDS THATS WHAT I DID. THE ARCHDIOCESE OF MEATH HAS A WEBSITE. TO GET THE EXACT PARISH.OR DO YOU HAVE A LDS FAMILY CENTER NEAR YOU THEY KEEP VERY GOOD RECORDS. IRELAND STARTED KEEPING CIVIL RECORDS IN 1864. EILEEN PS. GOD HUNTING, I HOPE THIS HELPS ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== Our Lister's Homepages, Callan www.falgen.org/callan/

HI TRY TO CONTACT THE LOCALA CHURCH FOR RECORDS THATS WHAT I DID. THE ARCHDIOCESE OF MEATH HAS A WEBSITE. TO GET THE EXACT PARISH.OR DO YOU HAVE A LDS FAMILY CENTER NEAR YOU THEY KEEP VERY GOOD RECORDS. IRELAND STARTED KEEPING CIVIL RECORDS IN 1864. EILEEN PS. GOD HUNTING, I HOPE THIS HELPS

Our Family Bible says that Michael O'Rourke (B. abt. 1825) married Alis VECHE (or Alice Vieches) on Aug. 23, 1846 in the Barony of Lower Kells, County Meath. Married by the Very Reverend Father Farley. No church is mentioned. They came to America & settled in Phila. in 1847 and had 4 children (2 of whom survived to adulthood: Mary O'ROURKE (B. 1851 in Phila.) and Michael (B. 1852). Michael O'ROURKE, the father, died 2 months before his son was born in 1852. There is also mention of a James O'ROURKE marrying Mary VECHE (or VIECHES) & having 2 children. Does anyone know of O'ROURKEs from County Meath? Possibly, someone still there? I'd love to share info with any distant cousins. Eileen, (ggranddaughter of Mary O'ROURKE who married John O'CONNELL in 1882 in Philadelphia, PA.)