I'm trying to. I sent a letter to the catholic priest, some months ago, but haven't heard back from him. I don't much of the area, though. Paul -----Original Message----- From: Carol Hopkins [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 12:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [MEATH] Oldcastle Hi List, Is anyone researching in the Oldcastle area ? Carol. ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== Add your associated County Meath genealogy homepage URL here, contact admin: <a href="mailto:[email protected]">CLICK</a>

My grandmother Mary Farrelly was born in the townland of Lisnagon, Civil Parish of Kilskeer (Kilskyre) and in the Catholic Parish of Kilskeer. (The Civil Parish and the Catholic Parish cover similar territory but are not totally identical from what I can determine from maps). She was married in one of the Catholic Churches in the Catholic Parish of Kilskeer which happened to be in the town or townland of Kilskeer. This particular church does have a Saint's name ie. St. Alphonsus Liguori but from my limited experience, the churches in Ireland are referred to by the town or townland name.The church opened for worship in 1853. There had been two previous church structures there. I have part of the Meath ordance survey six inch sheet (one inch to a mile ) which indicates the Roman Catholic Church of Kilskeer and other nearly Catholic Churches. The Meath Heritage Center presented me with the marriage of my gr. gr.parents in 1851 and the Baptism of the 6 children plus sponsors. This data included the townland. I put a letter in the Meath Chronicle and my second cousin contacted me. I have been to the Kilskeer Church and to the nearby cemetery in Castlekeeran where my relatives are buried. My great grandmother Ellen Smyth was born in nearby Seymourstown. Other townlands in my family history are Derver and Deerspark. Geraldine

Have you ever thought of researching the guilds that these gentlemen had to belong to, to be a tailor or a weaver or a sword bearer all these people had to belong to a guild........and as questionable as it may seem documents do exist for guild members cheers Cara ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 4:23 AM Subject: [MEATH] GEOGHEGANs > > > of anywhere sought > GT grandad was Michael Geoghegan the > tailor b 1807 c.. > His Dad was Thomas a weaver > my chances of finding either akin to winning the lottery > and as for MI's..300 on the tree and never found a grave marker > yet > > josi > My newsletters, including Volume nine, are at: > www.jgeoghegan.org.uk > and at: > www.btinternet.com/~finty/ > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > We can have FUN with this list. Interesting history was centered there, like for example, Meath was a Province of Ireland, but the King didn't play well with the Kings next door, so he and his kindom was ousted. > >

Hi Liz here My first time here, I'm looking for some help to go further back on my family tree, I'm looking for any information on my great great grandparents Daniel Hegarty born abt 1837 father Daniel & mother Abbey & Honoria Teevan born abt 1840 father Patrick mother Angela, they emmigrated to Western Australia on the ship Strathmore arriving 12 Jun 1864, they married in Perth WA on the 21 Oct 1865 & had 4 children there. Daniel also nominated his brother in law & sister to come to the colony but I can find no records of them in Australia . They were James Teevan born abt 1841 & Eliza born abt 1843 of Meath. Would be grateful for any help Thanks Liz.

Hi Paul, Think I checked for you before also for McCaffrey ?? nothing listed. Carol. ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul E. Dowling <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 1:41 PM Subject: RE: [MEATH] MELVIN of Thomastown and Baltrasna > In your Oldcastle research, Carol, have you ever come across a McGaughran > family? I'm looking for Mary McGaughran. I have a bible record claiming she > came from there. Her birth is 1835'ish. She would have immigrated to here, > in the US, prior to 1859. > > Thanx, Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carol Hopkins [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 9:24 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MEATH] MELVIN of Thomastown and Baltrasna > > > Hi Bryan, > Have you checked the MI's for Loughcrew & Oldcastle ? if not I > have copies and can check for you, > I also have family who came fron Baltrasna........... Henthorn(e) and > Grey....and Lownd(e)s and Forsyth(e) from Oldcastle. > Look forward to hearing from you. > > Best Wishes, > > Carol. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bryan Morgan <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:12 AM > Subject: [MEATH] MELVIN of Thomastown and Baltrasna > > > > I am researching my wife's family, the Melvins of Thomastown (near > > Crossakeel) and Baltrasna, all centred on Loughcrew parish and Oldcastle. > > I'd appreciate any assistance. I've got the 1901 census page but I > haven't > > seen the 1911 page. > > Also, how can I pin down where they lived in Baltrasna and when and why > they > > moved to Thomastown? My wife recalls that her father the late Anthony > > Melvin used to talk about 'land resettlement'. Does this ring any bells? > > Many thanks > > Bryan in Monmouthshire > > > > > > --------/!\________/!\-------------------------------//|\\=====//|\\----- > > >From border Monmouthshire, between the Severn Bridges... > > > > Saved - the old Severn Ferry! Follow her restoration at > > http://www.severnprincess.co.uk > > > > A picture of South Wales village life: The Caerwent Community website at > > http://www.caerwentcom.com > > > > Monmouthshire as it was a century ago in a 1901 Kelly's Trade Directory: > > http://www.kellys1901.co.uk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > > Visit The Roscommon Database for uncommon records: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlros/ > > > > > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > Add your associated County Meath genealogy homepage URL here, contact admin: > <a href="mailto:[email protected]">CLICK</a> > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > Visit The Roscommon Database for uncommon records: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlros/ > >

Hi Bryan, Nothing listed in the MI's, but Robert Melvin listed twice in the Griffiths at Baltrasna. I also checked for Bowers. Please contact me off list. Thanks, Carol. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bryan Morgan <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 5:48 AM Subject: Re: [MEATH] MELVIN of Thomastown and Baltrasna > > Hi Bryan, > > Have you checked the MI's for Loughcrew & Oldcastle ? if not I have > copies and can check for you > > Thanks Carol - although we were at the Oldcastle and Loughcrew churchyards, > the rain was torrrential! The Melvins were protestants, and closely related > to the Bowers family. > I'd appreciate any MI info you might have. > > > I also have family who came fron Baltrasna > > How very interesting - maybe they all knew each other! Have you any idea > how I woulkd establish the names of the farms that made up a 'Townland'? > The information must be there somewhere. The Townlands I'm interested in > are Baltrasna and Thomastown. > > Sincere thanks > Bryan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carol Hopkins" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 2:23 AM > Subject: Re: [MEATH] MELVIN of Thomastown and Baltrasna > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > Add your associated County Meath genealogy homepage URL here, contact admin: <a href="mailto:[email protected]">CLICK</a> > >

Hi, The info, I e-mailed you, is telling you the townland of Kilskeer is in the Parish of Kilskeer, which is in Co. Meath. You would have to find a map & look it up. I just wanted to bring it to your attention that there is a townland & a parish with the same name. Townland Acres County Barony Civil Parish PLU Province Kilskeer   1,590 Meath Upper Kells Kilskeer Kells Leinster You may want to purchase, the paper back book -- "a new genealogical atlas of Ireland," by Brian Mitchell. This will help you understand what a province, county, civil parish, barony, probate district, diocese & Poor Law Unions are. This is just a little example: US IRELAND state = county county = civil parish city, town = town, townland Happy hunting, Helen (DCGS) In a message dated 7/1/2 7:11:02 PM, [email protected] writes: << Where is the Parish in comparision to the village/town of Kilskeer? >>

Hi Linda, My ggrandfather Peter Callaghan was born in Killskeer or Kilskyre someone sent me information and they spelled it Killskeer, but the diocese of meath spells it Kiskyre. My ggrandfathers parents names were Philip Callaghan& Anne Sheridan. He was born in June 1858, but Ireland only started keeping civil records since 1864. He had a sister named Margaret born in 1871. Someone was kind enough to send me that information. Eileen, ps Thank you for answering my request

Thanx. Sorry if my memory's not so good. Paul -----Original Message----- From: Carol Hopkins [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 1:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MEATH] MELVIN of Thomastown and Baltrasna Hi Paul, Think I checked for you before also for McCaffrey ?? nothing listed. Carol. ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul E. Dowling <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 1:41 PM Subject: RE: [MEATH] MELVIN of Thomastown and Baltrasna > In your Oldcastle research, Carol, have you ever come across a McGaughran > family? I'm looking for Mary McGaughran. I have a bible record claiming she > came from there. Her birth is 1835'ish. She would have immigrated to here, > in the US, prior to 1859. > > Thanx, Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carol Hopkins [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 9:24 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MEATH] MELVIN of Thomastown and Baltrasna > > > Hi Bryan, > Have you checked the MI's for Loughcrew & Oldcastle ? if not I > have copies and can check for you, > I also have family who came fron Baltrasna........... Henthorn(e) and > Grey....and Lownd(e)s and Forsyth(e) from Oldcastle. > Look forward to hearing from you. > > Best Wishes, > > Carol. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bryan Morgan <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:12 AM > Subject: [MEATH] MELVIN of Thomastown and Baltrasna > > > > I am researching my wife's family, the Melvins of Thomastown (near > > Crossakeel) and Baltrasna, all centred on Loughcrew parish and Oldcastle. > > I'd appreciate any assistance. I've got the 1901 census page but I > haven't > > seen the 1911 page. > > Also, how can I pin down where they lived in Baltrasna and when and why > they > > moved to Thomastown? My wife recalls that her father the late Anthony > > Melvin used to talk about 'land resettlement'. Does this ring any bells? > > Many thanks > > Bryan in Monmouthshire > > > > > > --------/!\________/!\-------------------------------//|\\=====//|\\----- > > >From border Monmouthshire, between the Severn Bridges... > > > > Saved - the old Severn Ferry! Follow her restoration at > > http://www.severnprincess.co.uk > > > > A picture of South Wales village life: The Caerwent Community website at > > http://www.caerwentcom.com > > > > Monmouthshire as it was a century ago in a 1901 Kelly's Trade Directory: > > http://www.kellys1901.co.uk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > > Visit The Roscommon Database for uncommon records: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlros/ > > > > > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > Add your associated County Meath genealogy homepage URL here, contact admin: > <a href="mailto:[email protected]">CLICK</a> > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > Visit The Roscommon Database for uncommon records: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlros/ > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== We can have FUN with this list. Interesting history was centered there, like for example, Meath was a Province of Ireland, but the King didn't play well with the Kings next door, so he and his kindom was ousted.

Hi, Townland Acres County Barony Civil Parish PLU Province Kilskeer   1,590 Meath Upper Kells Kilskeer Kells Leinster URL: http://www.seanruad.com/cgi-bin/iresrch Was your ancestor born in the townland of Kilskeer or the Civil Parish of Kilskeer, in Co. Meath? In a message dated 7/1/2 6:11:38 PM, [email protected] writes: << I have an ancestor that was born in Kilskeer Ireland. I've only seen it spelled this one way but like many other places I'm sure there are various spelling---especially the further back you go. My ancestor was Bridget Donohue who we found out later were told was really born Bridget Tully in Kilskeer Ireland in the 1840's. She would later move to the US and settle in Louisa Co Iowa. I'm told Donohue was her stepfather's name. His name was Dennis. So far I have not found out who her parents were but a older relatives said she was told Bridget's mom was Ann or Anna but do not know her maiden name. Linda Grennan >>

Well I am not sure. The information was taken off a census record. I would think she would have told them the town. My great grandmother made a not that Bridget came from a small village near Dublin. Bridget was her mother in law. Bridget got married in Iowa and she married under Tully to her husband who was a Rinearson. Where is the Parish in comparision to the village/town of Kilskeer? My husband and I are planning a trip to Ireland for possibly next year and were planning on going to Co Meath. Linda

Hi Carol, Could you check for McENTAGGART-McINTAGGERT-McTAGGART? Thank you so very much! :) Happy hunting, Helen (DCGS)

I have an ancestor that was born in Kilskeer Ireland. I've only seen it spelled this one way but like many other places I'm sure there are various spelling---especially the further back you go. My ancestor was Bridget Donohue who we found out later were told was really born Bridget Tully in Kilskeer Ireland in the 1840's. She would later move to the US and settle in Louisa Co Iowa. I'm told Donohue was her stepfather's name. His name was Dennis. So far I have not found out who her parents were but a older relatives said she was told Bridget's mom was Ann or Anna but do not know her maiden name. Linda Grennan

No, I don't know what's correct. I see what you mean, on the Meath site. I just checked another resource, http://www.seanruad.com/cgi-bin/iresrch. It has ...eer, as well. I confirmed the "Ballinlough" location on the maps I sent you. Clearly it's adjacent to ...eer on the map, so they're the same place. It sounds like you sent a letter. It'll get to the right place, with either spelling. It's odd, though, but probably because you, or I, are unaware of some historical issue surrounding the name. The Welsh use "y" often, for example. Paul -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 8:02 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MEATH] Thank You Hi Paul, Someone sent it to me. Do you know the correct spelling? I hope I sent it to the right parish! I got the Kilskyre from the Dioccese of Meath website. The other one someone sent me. Again thank you very much. Eileen, ps. Take Care ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== This list is for everyone with a genealogical interest in County Meath. County Meath website is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlmea2/ Ireland Project Website: http://irelandgenealogyprojects.rootsweb.com/

Hi Paul, Someone sent it to me. Do you know the correct spelling? I hope I sent it to the right parish! I got the Kilskyre from the Dioccese of Meath website. The other one someone sent me. Again thank you very much. Eileen, ps. Take Care

A pleasure Eileen. Question: Where are you picking up the ...yre spelling? Paul -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 5:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [MEATH] Thank You Thank you Paul for your help. Iwasn't sure if Kilskyre is the same Killskeer. Eileen ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== In your search for records, keep in mind that in old Ireland, borders for provinces, baronies, counties, archdiocese, diocese and townlands moved with swings of the battle axe. Check nearby places for records.

of anywhere sought GT grandad was Michael Geoghegan the tailor b 1807 c.. His Dad was Thomas a weaver my chances of finding either akin to winning the lottery and as for MI's..300 on the tree and never found a grave marker yet josi My newsletters, including Volume nine, are at: www.jgeoghegan.org.uk and at: www.btinternet.com/~finty/

Thank you Paul for your help. Iwasn't sure if Kilskyre is the same Killskeer. Eileen

Carol: I saw your offer to Bryan to lookup in the Oldcastle MI's. I wonder, a bit boldly perhaps, if I could ask you do me a large favour and look for MILLIE as a surname. I have a Henry MILLIE who shows up in Griffiths as being at Tubride, Oldcastle parish, County Meath. MILLIE's were Scots Presbyterian. David Thompson London, Ontario, Canada

Thanx, Paul -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Morgan [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 1:04 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MEATH] MELVIN of Thomastown and Baltrasna > Sorry for the question, folks, but what's an MI? "Monumental Inscription" - the details carved on gravestones. Bryan ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== Add your associated County Meath genealogy homepage URL here, contact admin: <a href="mailto:[email protected]">CLICK</a>