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    1. Re: [MEATH] gravesites Castlekieran names
    2. Erik Andersson
    3. Hi! Noticed you mentioned Fox in your listing of families in Meath,as I am searching for a Cornelius Fox from that area, I would like to ask you what data you have on the Fox family and if you could be so kind to send it to me off the list? Sincerely, Erik Andersson. [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 1:11 PM Subject: [MEATH] gravesites Castlekieran names > I think that I will just put the names on the Meath list for everyone. There > really are not 39 as many are repititive. > Barden > Tye > Devine > Gogarty > Farreley > Coone > Farley > Fox > McCabe and Naulty > Smyth > Shirkel > Fitzsimons > Rooney > McDonnell > Hand > Flood > Brien > McNamee > Tuite > O'Reilly > Win > McInerney > Brady > Vault > Madden > Raleigh > Fotzpatrick and Malloy > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > We can have FUN with this list. Interesting history was centered there, like for example, Meath was a Province of Ireland, but the King didn't play well with the Kings next door, so he and his kindom was ousted. > >

    07/04/2002 08:45:38
    1. Re: [MEATH] Meath Libraries
    2. Elizabeth Finnegan
    3. Paul is asking about a land mark not a family name. Even the local university in Meath will answer such a question. >From: "Cara_Links" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [MEATH] Meath Libraries >Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 08:59:41 +1000 > >This lady who has answered this is so correct so folks take heed ........ >when doing research this is what they do............ > >Cara_links >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 1:38 AM >Subject: [MEATH] Meath Libraries > > > > > > > > Meath will NOT answer you queries even with the postage but always > > pass your enquiry to the heritage center there..Carol Hopkins of this > > list will bear me out.. > > josi > > My newsletters, including Volume nine, are at: > > www.jgeoghegan.org.uk > > and at: > > www.btinternet.com/~finty/ > > > > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > > Our Lister's Homepages, Callan www.falgen.org/callan/ > > _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

    07/04/2002 06:25:57
    1. Re: [MEATH] Meath Libraries
    2. Cara_Links
    3. This lady who has answered this is so correct so folks take heed ........ when doing research this is what they do............ Cara_links ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 1:38 AM Subject: [MEATH] Meath Libraries > > > Meath will NOT answer you queries even with the postage but always > pass your enquiry to the heritage center there..Carol Hopkins of this > list will bear me out.. > josi > My newsletters, including Volume nine, are at: > www.jgeoghegan.org.uk > and at: > www.btinternet.com/~finty/ > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > Our Lister's Homepages, Callan www.falgen.org/callan/ >

    07/04/2002 02:59:41
    1. [MEATH] Re:searching Old castle
    2. Hi List, I haven't been on the Meath list very long but when I saw Old castle mentioned I thought I might give some information I have of the family of Patt. Murphy born abt. 1750..Drumlerry, near Old castle. I am not related to this family and only have information what is listed for Patt. Murphy and descendents. I'll list the surnames other than Murphy mentioned and anyone interested can write to me for what information I have. I hope this helps someone on the list. Smith, Clinton, Byrne, Brady, Atkinson, Kelly, Baxter, Maloney, Burns, Conlon, McCormack, Roddy, O'Mahony, Larkin, Dunne and Farrell. Sally searching for John Rice b. abt. 1831, place in Ireland unknown..probably near or in Louth county.

    07/03/2002 06:07:37
    1. [MEATH] searching Old castle
    2. Cara_Links
    3. To all those who have searched or are searching the area of OLD CASTLE IN 1996 I began the task of "trying" to find the ellusive Thomas O"Donoghue's birth and his parents Elizabeth nee Burns and Michael taking many channels 1) Co Cavan Genealogical Centre Canna House Cavan and this was a quote from their reply * Old Castle is on the border between Cavan and Meath and based on your information we have carried out a search of the parishes in the area but regret we failed to find either the birth record of Thoams or the marriage of his parents*. They then handed the request to Meath Heritage Genealogy centre to carry out a search of their records..........the reason being as a Sweet parish priest told us Father Conlan to be exact and I quote again from his letter * Had he been born in OldCastle Parish, I have no doubt that the entry would be in our records BUT he may have been born in OLDCASTLE but outside the parish of Oldcastle..........Ballinacree has an Oldcastle address but is in the Parish of Mount Nugent............he then sent us to a Father John Molloy who then told us that as parishes closed in this area ............which meant that they could have an OLDCASTLE address .......their books were handed to another parish ..........Now this search has been going on for six years and is no closer to the parentage of this ellusive man ........... So for all of your chasing OLDCASTLE registrations all I can say to you is look in all the parishes within the area surrounding the place ........you never know who you may find and one day it may be your missing link........... By the way there was 6 Oldcastles listed in Ireland .............are we all in the right area ????? Cheers Cara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul E. Dowling" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 2:46 AM Subject: RE: [MEATH] Oldcastle > I'm trying to. I sent a letter to the catholic priest, some months ago, but > haven't heard back from him. I don't much of the area, though. > > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carol Hopkins [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 12:01 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [MEATH] Oldcastle > > > Hi List, > > Is anyone researching in the Oldcastle area ? > > Carol. > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > Add your associated County Meath genealogy homepage URL here, contact admin: > <a href="mailto:[email protected]">CLICK</a> > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > Our Lister's Homepages, Callan www.falgen.org/callan/ >

    07/03/2002 01:48:59
    1. RE: [MEATH] searching Old castle
    2. Paul E. Dowling
    3. Thanx, Paul -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Finnegan [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 5:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [MEATH] searching Old castle Go to our post office and request international reply stamps They permit you to send a (return) self-addressed, stamped envelope. Check with the post office re: ounces. Usually 3 pieces of paper equals one ounce. >From: "Paul E. Dowling" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: [MEATH] searching Old castle >Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 16:09:22 -0400 > >No, I sure didn't. Can you explain the process? What's an international >reply stamp? > >Thanx, Paul > >-----Original Message----- >From: Elizabeth Finnegan [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 8:55 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: [MEATH] searching Old castle > > >Paul > >Did you send your question to the library there? Librarians answer >questions all the time. > >Send international reply stamps. > >Also searching Meath for ROBINSON AND FLETCHER - no luck > >Betty F. > > > > >From: "Paul E. Dowling" <[email protected]> > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: RE: [MEATH] searching Old castle > >Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 07:34:23 -0400 > > > >Thanx, Cara. > > > >I had no clue, RE the border issue. As I mentioned I sent a letter to the > >Oldcastle priest, many months ago, with no reply. This was after he > >promised > >a local acquaintance of mine that he would help. > > > >Would you be willing to share your contact info for the surrounding > >parishes? > > > >Take care, Paul > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Cara_Links [mailto:[email protected]] > >Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 5:49 AM > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: [MEATH] searching Old castle > > > > > >To all those who have searched or are searching the area of OLD CASTLE > > IN 1996 I began the task of "trying" to find the ellusive Thomas > >O"Donoghue's birth and his parents Elizabeth nee Burns and Michael > >taking many channels > >1) Co Cavan Genealogical Centre Canna House Cavan and this was a quote >from > >their reply * Old Castle is on the border between Cavan and Meath and >based > >on your information we have carried out a search of the parishes in the > >area > >but regret we failed to find either the birth record of Thoams or the > >marriage of his parents*. > > > >They then handed the request to Meath Heritage Genealogy centre to carry > >out a search of their records..........the reason being as a Sweet parish > >priest told us Father Conlan to be exact and I quote again from his >letter > >* > >Had he been born in OldCastle Parish, I have no doubt that the entry >would > >be in our records BUT he may have been born in OLDCASTLE but outside the > >parish of Oldcastle..........Ballinacree has an Oldcastle address but is >in > >the Parish of Mount Nugent............he then sent us to a Father John > >Molloy who then told us that as parishes closed in this area > >............which meant that they could have an OLDCASTLE address > >.......their books were handed to another parish ..........Now this >search > >has been going on for six years and is no closer to the parentage of >this > >ellusive man ........... > > > >So for all of your chasing OLDCASTLE registrations all I can say to you >is > >look in all the parishes within the area surrounding the place >........you > >never know who you may find and one day it may be your missing > >link........... > > > >By the way there was 6 Oldcastles listed in Ireland .............are we >all > >in the right area ????? > > > > > >Cheers > >Cara > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Paul E. Dowling" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 2:46 AM > >Subject: RE: [MEATH] Oldcastle > > > > > > > I'm trying to. I sent a letter to the catholic priest, some months >ago, > >but > > > haven't heard back from him. I don't much of the area, though. > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Carol Hopkins [mailto:[email protected]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 12:01 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: [MEATH] Oldcastle > > > > > > > > > Hi List, > > > > > > Is anyone researching in the Oldcastle area ? > > > > > > Carol. > > > > > > > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > > > Add your associated County Meath genealogy homepage URL here, contact > >admin: > > > <a href="mailto:[email protected]">CLICK</a> > > > > > > > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > > > Our Lister's Homepages, Callan www.falgen.org/callan/ > > > > > > > > > > >==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > >We can have FUN with this list. Interesting history was centered there, > >like > >for example, Meath was a Province of Ireland, but the King didn't play >well > >with the Kings next door, so he and his kindom was ousted. > > > > > >==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > >We can have FUN with this list. Interesting history was centered there, > >like for example, Meath was a Province of Ireland, but the King didn't >play > >well with the Kings next door, so he and his kindom was ousted. > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > >==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== >Our Lister's Homepages, Callan www.falgen.org/callan/ > > >==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== >This list is for everyone with a genealogical interest in County Meath. >County Meath website is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlmea2/ >Ireland Project Website: http://irelandgenealogyprojects.rootsweb.com/ _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

    07/03/2002 01:20:14
    1. Re: [MEATH] Re: Kilskeer - a bit of history, etc.
    2. Ray Cassidy
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 9:20 AM Subject: [MEATH] Re: Kilskeer - a bit of history, etc. > Geraldine et al, > > I've seen a few references to Kilskeer recently, and I thought there might be > some interest in the history of the place. By the way, the Irish name for > Kilskeer is "Cill Sci/re" (the virgule is sometimes used to show a fada on > the previous vowel - when RTF or HTML is not properly represented, as on > Rootsweb text-only lists). The "i" with fada would be pronounced as "ee" in > English, so I have no idea where the previously-mentioned Killskyre variant > arose. > > But back to history (I'm doing this in my cool cellar, while the heat rages > outside - hence this marginally OT posting). The name goes back to the > virgin Schiria of Kill-Schire, in the time of St. Colmcille. It was perhaps > a double monastery of men and women, but from the eighth century only men are > recorded as abbots, etc. The church was plundered by Gothfrith and the > foreigners of Dublin in 951. The army of MacMurrough with his knights from > England burned Cill-Scire and other places in 1170. The church was later > parochial. All of the stuff in this paragraph (except the cellar part <g>) > is from Gwynn & Hadcock's "Medieval Religious Houses - Ireland". I've spared > you all the references, etc. G&H state that "remains exist", but do not > guarantee that the ruins are original. > > >From the recent "Archaeological Inventory of County Meath", much of the G&H > material is repeated (but the authors think the Vikings hurried-up and > arrived in 950 vs. 951.......maybe due to the "date of Easter" controversy > <g>). They do refer to the "overgrown remains of church probably medieval. > Monument to Hugh O'Reilly, dated 1686, to E. of church." > > When I was there in Sept. 2000, I did find a fine medieval tomb - which may > or may not be the one mentioned above. I tend to think it was a bit earlier, > but perhaps not. After clearing away the brambles, grass and nettles (and a > bit of minor dirt removal), I found two "weepers" along the base of the tomb > (carved figures, perhaps representing mourners) to go with the pair of nice > armorial-type plaques on the wall above the tomb. All in all, a wonderful > discovery. I only get one or two of those per trip to Ireland, usually. > > It's still hot outside, I'm listening to RTE live from Ireland now (5-7 Live) > on the computer......but I won't bore you with any more of this. > > Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts > > Pete... What part of the "glorious Berkshire hills of westerm Massacusett" are you from? Ray Cassidy, from the thriving metropolis of Ashfield, MA.

    07/03/2002 11:03:53
    1. RE: [MEATH] searching Old castle
    2. Elizabeth Finnegan
    3. Go to our post office and request international reply stamps They permit you to send a (return) self-addressed, stamped envelope. Check with the post office re: ounces. Usually 3 pieces of paper equals one ounce. >From: "Paul E. Dowling" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: [MEATH] searching Old castle >Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 16:09:22 -0400 > >No, I sure didn't. Can you explain the process? What's an international >reply stamp? > >Thanx, Paul > >-----Original Message----- >From: Elizabeth Finnegan [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 8:55 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: [MEATH] searching Old castle > > >Paul > >Did you send your question to the library there? Librarians answer >questions all the time. > >Send international reply stamps. > >Also searching Meath for ROBINSON AND FLETCHER - no luck > >Betty F. > > > > >From: "Paul E. Dowling" <[email protected]> > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: RE: [MEATH] searching Old castle > >Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 07:34:23 -0400 > > > >Thanx, Cara. > > > >I had no clue, RE the border issue. As I mentioned I sent a letter to the > >Oldcastle priest, many months ago, with no reply. This was after he > >promised > >a local acquaintance of mine that he would help. > > > >Would you be willing to share your contact info for the surrounding > >parishes? > > > >Take care, Paul > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Cara_Links [mailto:[email protected]] > >Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 5:49 AM > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: [MEATH] searching Old castle > > > > > >To all those who have searched or are searching the area of OLD CASTLE > > IN 1996 I began the task of "trying" to find the ellusive Thomas > >O"Donoghue's birth and his parents Elizabeth nee Burns and Michael > >taking many channels > >1) Co Cavan Genealogical Centre Canna House Cavan and this was a quote >from > >their reply * Old Castle is on the border between Cavan and Meath and >based > >on your information we have carried out a search of the parishes in the > >area > >but regret we failed to find either the birth record of Thoams or the > >marriage of his parents*. > > > >They then handed the request to Meath Heritage Genealogy centre to carry > >out a search of their records..........the reason being as a Sweet parish > >priest told us Father Conlan to be exact and I quote again from his >letter > >* > >Had he been born in OldCastle Parish, I have no doubt that the entry >would > >be in our records BUT he may have been born in OLDCASTLE but outside the > >parish of Oldcastle..........Ballinacree has an Oldcastle address but is >in > >the Parish of Mount Nugent............he then sent us to a Father John > >Molloy who then told us that as parishes closed in this area > >............which meant that they could have an OLDCASTLE address > >.......their books were handed to another parish ..........Now this >search > >has been going on for six years and is no closer to the parentage of >this > >ellusive man ........... > > > >So for all of your chasing OLDCASTLE registrations all I can say to you >is > >look in all the parishes within the area surrounding the place >........you > >never know who you may find and one day it may be your missing > >link........... > > > >By the way there was 6 Oldcastles listed in Ireland .............are we >all > >in the right area ????? > > > > > >Cheers > >Cara > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Paul E. Dowling" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 2:46 AM > >Subject: RE: [MEATH] Oldcastle > > > > > > > I'm trying to. I sent a letter to the catholic priest, some months >ago, > >but > > > haven't heard back from him. I don't much of the area, though. > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Carol Hopkins [mailto:[email protected]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 12:01 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: [MEATH] Oldcastle > > > > > > > > > Hi List, > > > > > > Is anyone researching in the Oldcastle area ? > > > > > > Carol. > > > > > > > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > > > Add your associated County Meath genealogy homepage URL here, contact > >admin: > > > <a href="mailto:[email protected]">CLICK</a> > > > > > > > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > > > Our Lister's Homepages, Callan www.falgen.org/callan/ > > > > > > > > > > >==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > >We can have FUN with this list. Interesting history was centered there, > >like > >for example, Meath was a Province of Ireland, but the King didn't play >well > >with the Kings next door, so he and his kindom was ousted. > > > > > >==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > >We can have FUN with this list. Interesting history was centered there, > >like for example, Meath was a Province of Ireland, but the King didn't >play > >well with the Kings next door, so he and his kindom was ousted. > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > >==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== >Our Lister's Homepages, Callan www.falgen.org/callan/ > > >==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== >This list is for everyone with a genealogical interest in County Meath. >County Meath website is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlmea2/ >Ireland Project Website: http://irelandgenealogyprojects.rootsweb.com/ _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

    07/03/2002 11:03:53
    1. [MEATH] Meath Libraries
    2. Meath will NOT answer you queries even with the postage but always pass your enquiry to the heritage center there..Carol Hopkins of this list will bear me out.. josi My newsletters, including Volume nine, are at: www.jgeoghegan.org.uk and at: www.btinternet.com/~finty/

    07/03/2002 10:38:46
    1. RE: [MEATH] searching Old castle
    2. Paul E. Dowling
    3. No, I sure didn't. Can you explain the process? What's an international reply stamp? Thanx, Paul -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Finnegan [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 8:55 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [MEATH] searching Old castle Paul Did you send your question to the library there? Librarians answer questions all the time. Send international reply stamps. Also searching Meath for ROBINSON AND FLETCHER - no luck Betty F. >From: "Paul E. Dowling" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: [MEATH] searching Old castle >Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 07:34:23 -0400 > >Thanx, Cara. > >I had no clue, RE the border issue. As I mentioned I sent a letter to the >Oldcastle priest, many months ago, with no reply. This was after he >promised >a local acquaintance of mine that he would help. > >Would you be willing to share your contact info for the surrounding >parishes? > >Take care, Paul > >-----Original Message----- >From: Cara_Links [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 5:49 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [MEATH] searching Old castle > > >To all those who have searched or are searching the area of OLD CASTLE > IN 1996 I began the task of "trying" to find the ellusive Thomas >O"Donoghue's birth and his parents Elizabeth nee Burns and Michael >taking many channels >1) Co Cavan Genealogical Centre Canna House Cavan and this was a quote from >their reply * Old Castle is on the border between Cavan and Meath and based >on your information we have carried out a search of the parishes in the >area >but regret we failed to find either the birth record of Thoams or the >marriage of his parents*. > >They then handed the request to Meath Heritage Genealogy centre to carry >out a search of their records..........the reason being as a Sweet parish >priest told us Father Conlan to be exact and I quote again from his letter >* >Had he been born in OldCastle Parish, I have no doubt that the entry would >be in our records BUT he may have been born in OLDCASTLE but outside the >parish of Oldcastle..........Ballinacree has an Oldcastle address but is in >the Parish of Mount Nugent............he then sent us to a Father John >Molloy who then told us that as parishes closed in this area >............which meant that they could have an OLDCASTLE address >.......their books were handed to another parish ..........Now this search >has been going on for six years and is no closer to the parentage of this >ellusive man ........... > >So for all of your chasing OLDCASTLE registrations all I can say to you is >look in all the parishes within the area surrounding the place ........you >never know who you may find and one day it may be your missing >link........... > >By the way there was 6 Oldcastles listed in Ireland .............are we all >in the right area ????? > > >Cheers >Cara > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Paul E. Dowling" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 2:46 AM >Subject: RE: [MEATH] Oldcastle > > > > I'm trying to. I sent a letter to the catholic priest, some months ago, >but > > haven't heard back from him. I don't much of the area, though. > > > > Paul > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Carol Hopkins [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 12:01 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [MEATH] Oldcastle > > > > > > Hi List, > > > > Is anyone researching in the Oldcastle area ? > > > > Carol. > > > > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > > Add your associated County Meath genealogy homepage URL here, contact >admin: > > <a href="mailto:[email protected]">CLICK</a> > > > > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > > Our Lister's Homepages, Callan www.falgen.org/callan/ > > > > > >==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== >We can have FUN with this list. Interesting history was centered there, >like >for example, Meath was a Province of Ireland, but the King didn't play well >with the Kings next door, so he and his kindom was ousted. > > >==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== >We can have FUN with this list. Interesting history was centered there, >like for example, Meath was a Province of Ireland, but the King didn't play >well with the Kings next door, so he and his kindom was ousted. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== Our Lister's Homepages, Callan www.falgen.org/callan/

    07/03/2002 10:09:22
    1. [MEATH] Re: Kilskeer - a bit of history, etc.
    2. Geraldine et al, I've seen a few references to Kilskeer recently, and I thought there might be some interest in the history of the place. By the way, the Irish name for Kilskeer is "Cill Sci/re" (the virgule is sometimes used to show a fada on the previous vowel - when RTF or HTML is not properly represented, as on Rootsweb text-only lists). The "i" with fada would be pronounced as "ee" in English, so I have no idea where the previously-mentioned Killskyre variant arose. But back to history (I'm doing this in my cool cellar, while the heat rages outside - hence this marginally OT posting). The name goes back to the virgin Schiria of Kill-Schire, in the time of St. Colmcille. It was perhaps a double monastery of men and women, but from the eighth century only men are recorded as abbots, etc. The church was plundered by Gothfrith and the foreigners of Dublin in 951. The army of MacMurrough with his knights from England burned Cill-Scire and other places in 1170. The church was later parochial. All of the stuff in this paragraph (except the cellar part <g>) is from Gwynn & Hadcock's "Medieval Religious Houses - Ireland". I've spared you all the references, etc. G&H state that "remains exist", but do not guarantee that the ruins are original. >From the recent "Archaeological Inventory of County Meath", much of the G&H material is repeated (but the authors think the Vikings hurried-up and arrived in 950 vs. 951.......maybe due to the "date of Easter" controversy <g>). They do refer to the "overgrown remains of church probably medieval. Monument to Hugh O'Reilly, dated 1686, to E. of church." When I was there in Sept. 2000, I did find a fine medieval tomb - which may or may not be the one mentioned above. I tend to think it was a bit earlier, but perhaps not. After clearing away the brambles, grass and nettles (and a bit of minor dirt removal), I found two "weepers" along the base of the tomb (carved figures, perhaps representing mourners) to go with the pair of nice armorial-type plaques on the wall above the tomb. All in all, a wonderful discovery. I only get one or two of those per trip to Ireland, usually. It's still hot outside, I'm listening to RTE live from Ireland now (5-7 Live) on the computer......but I won't bore you with any more of this. Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

    07/03/2002 06:20:17
    1. Re: [MEATH] MELVIN of Thomastown and Baltrasna
    2. Marg Brace
    3. Hi Margaret I have written to you before about the Benson family from Rathmolyan and Summerhill. I would love to hear the information that you have about the Bensons from Meath. Look forward to hearing from you. Margie Brace Margaret Carlson wrote: > Although I have bible records going back on Bensons in Meath to about 1700, > I have never found any confirming protestant records.. At one point they > were in Rathmolyan. Does anyone have a good source for C of I records? > Margaret Carlson > -----Original Message----- > From: Bryan Morgan <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Date: Saturday, June 29, 2002 1:09 AM > Subject: Re: [MEATH] MELVIN of Thomastown and Baltrasna > > >> Hi Bryan, > >> Have you checked the MI's for Loughcrew & Oldcastle ? if not I have > >copies and can check for you > > > >Thanks Carol - although we were at the Oldcastle and Loughcrew > churchyards, > >the rain was torrrential! The Melvins were protestants, and closely > related > >to the Bowers family. > >I'd appreciate any MI info you might have. > > > >> I also have family who came fron Baltrasna > > > >How very interesting - maybe they all knew each other! Have you any idea > >how I woulkd establish the names of the farms that made up a 'Townland'? > >The information must be there somewhere. The Townlands I'm interested in > >are Baltrasna and Thomastown. > > > >Sincere thanks > >Bryan > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Carol Hopkins" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 2:23 AM > >Subject: Re: [MEATH] MELVIN of Thomastown and Baltrasna > > > > > >==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > >Add your associated County Meath genealogy homepage URL here, contact > admin: <a href="mailto:[email protected]">CLICK</a> > > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > In your search for records, keep in mind that in old Ireland, borders for provinces, baronies, counties, archdiocese, diocese and townlands moved with swings of the battle axe. Check nearby places for records.

    07/03/2002 04:59:48
    1. [MEATH] CALLAGHAN FAMILY
    2. Hi I was wondering if some kind person could please do a lookup for me. My ggrandfather Peter Callaghan was born in June 1858 in Killskeer or Kilskyre, Meath. I know Ireland started keeping civil records since 1864. But maybe someone could find siblings of his for me. His parents names were Philip Callaghan and Anne Sheridan. It would be much appreciated. Thank You, Eileen

    07/03/2002 03:07:38
    1. RE: [MEATH] searching Old castle
    2. Elizabeth Finnegan
    3. Paul Did you send your question to the library there? Librarians answer questions all the time. Send international reply stamps. Also searching Meath for ROBINSON AND FLETCHER - no luck Betty F. >From: "Paul E. Dowling" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: [MEATH] searching Old castle >Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 07:34:23 -0400 > >Thanx, Cara. > >I had no clue, RE the border issue. As I mentioned I sent a letter to the >Oldcastle priest, many months ago, with no reply. This was after he >promised >a local acquaintance of mine that he would help. > >Would you be willing to share your contact info for the surrounding >parishes? > >Take care, Paul > >-----Original Message----- >From: Cara_Links [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 5:49 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [MEATH] searching Old castle > > >To all those who have searched or are searching the area of OLD CASTLE > IN 1996 I began the task of "trying" to find the ellusive Thomas >O"Donoghue's birth and his parents Elizabeth nee Burns and Michael >taking many channels >1) Co Cavan Genealogical Centre Canna House Cavan and this was a quote from >their reply * Old Castle is on the border between Cavan and Meath and based >on your information we have carried out a search of the parishes in the >area >but regret we failed to find either the birth record of Thoams or the >marriage of his parents*. > >They then handed the request to Meath Heritage Genealogy centre to carry >out a search of their records..........the reason being as a Sweet parish >priest told us Father Conlan to be exact and I quote again from his letter >* >Had he been born in OldCastle Parish, I have no doubt that the entry would >be in our records BUT he may have been born in OLDCASTLE but outside the >parish of Oldcastle..........Ballinacree has an Oldcastle address but is in >the Parish of Mount Nugent............he then sent us to a Father John >Molloy who then told us that as parishes closed in this area >............which meant that they could have an OLDCASTLE address >.......their books were handed to another parish ..........Now this search >has been going on for six years and is no closer to the parentage of this >ellusive man ........... > >So for all of your chasing OLDCASTLE registrations all I can say to you is >look in all the parishes within the area surrounding the place ........you >never know who you may find and one day it may be your missing >link........... > >By the way there was 6 Oldcastles listed in Ireland .............are we all >in the right area ????? > > >Cheers >Cara > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Paul E. Dowling" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 2:46 AM >Subject: RE: [MEATH] Oldcastle > > > > I'm trying to. I sent a letter to the catholic priest, some months ago, >but > > haven't heard back from him. I don't much of the area, though. > > > > Paul > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Carol Hopkins [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 12:01 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [MEATH] Oldcastle > > > > > > Hi List, > > > > Is anyone researching in the Oldcastle area ? > > > > Carol. > > > > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > > Add your associated County Meath genealogy homepage URL here, contact >admin: > > <a href="mailto:[email protected]">CLICK</a> > > > > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > > Our Lister's Homepages, Callan www.falgen.org/callan/ > > > > > >==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== >We can have FUN with this list. Interesting history was centered there, >like >for example, Meath was a Province of Ireland, but the King didn't play well >with the Kings next door, so he and his kindom was ousted. > > >==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== >We can have FUN with this list. Interesting history was centered there, >like for example, Meath was a Province of Ireland, but the King didn't play >well with the Kings next door, so he and his kindom was ousted. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

    07/03/2002 02:54:57
    1. RE: [MEATH] searching Old castle
    2. Paul E. Dowling
    3. Thanx, Cara. I had no clue, RE the border issue. As I mentioned I sent a letter to the Oldcastle priest, many months ago, with no reply. This was after he promised a local acquaintance of mine that he would help. Would you be willing to share your contact info for the surrounding parishes? Take care, Paul -----Original Message----- From: Cara_Links [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 5:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [MEATH] searching Old castle To all those who have searched or are searching the area of OLD CASTLE IN 1996 I began the task of "trying" to find the ellusive Thomas O"Donoghue's birth and his parents Elizabeth nee Burns and Michael taking many channels 1) Co Cavan Genealogical Centre Canna House Cavan and this was a quote from their reply * Old Castle is on the border between Cavan and Meath and based on your information we have carried out a search of the parishes in the area but regret we failed to find either the birth record of Thoams or the marriage of his parents*. They then handed the request to Meath Heritage Genealogy centre to carry out a search of their records..........the reason being as a Sweet parish priest told us Father Conlan to be exact and I quote again from his letter * Had he been born in OldCastle Parish, I have no doubt that the entry would be in our records BUT he may have been born in OLDCASTLE but outside the parish of Oldcastle..........Ballinacree has an Oldcastle address but is in the Parish of Mount Nugent............he then sent us to a Father John Molloy who then told us that as parishes closed in this area ............which meant that they could have an OLDCASTLE address .......their books were handed to another parish ..........Now this search has been going on for six years and is no closer to the parentage of this ellusive man ........... So for all of your chasing OLDCASTLE registrations all I can say to you is look in all the parishes within the area surrounding the place ........you never know who you may find and one day it may be your missing link........... By the way there was 6 Oldcastles listed in Ireland .............are we all in the right area ????? Cheers Cara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul E. Dowling" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 2:46 AM Subject: RE: [MEATH] Oldcastle > I'm trying to. I sent a letter to the catholic priest, some months ago, but > haven't heard back from him. I don't much of the area, though. > > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carol Hopkins [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 12:01 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [MEATH] Oldcastle > > > Hi List, > > Is anyone researching in the Oldcastle area ? > > Carol. > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > Add your associated County Meath genealogy homepage URL here, contact admin: > <a href="mailto:[email protected]">CLICK</a> > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > Our Lister's Homepages, Callan www.falgen.org/callan/ > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== We can have FUN with this list. Interesting history was centered there, like for example, Meath was a Province of Ireland, but the King didn't play well with the Kings next door, so he and his kindom was ousted.

    07/03/2002 01:34:23
    1. [MEATH] LOWND(E)S & FORSYTH(E)
    2. Carol Hopkins
    3. Hi List, Does anyone have any connection to the LOWND(E)S or FORSYTH(E) families ? They seem to be mainly in the Oldcastle area. TIA. Carol.

    07/02/2002 11:12:34
    1. [MEATH] Oldcastle
    2. Carol Hopkins
    3. Hi List, Is anyone researching in the Oldcastle area ? Carol.

    07/02/2002 11:00:57
    1. [MEATH] Geoghegan
    2. Our Michael Geoghegan b 1807-1809 wed the daughter of Charles Doyle in 1877 Ann was the widow of William Cuthbert and Michael was a bachelor and shy the marriage certificate shows him to be a mere lad of 68 at the nuptuals..altho a busy tailor he begat 2 children and died 1882. leaving Ann with four children under 7. ( dont ask) josi My newsletters, including Volume nine, are at: www.jgeoghegan.org.uk and at: www.btinternet.com/~finty/

    07/02/2002 09:36:03
    1. [MEATH] DOYLE
    2. Charles Doyle married Catherine Prendergast 1832 in London Bloomsbury has anyone lost this Charlie? a tailor by trade...he was born about 1807 somewhere in Ireland ah...for a time machine.... josi My newsletters, including Volume nine, are at: www.jgeoghegan.org.uk and at: www.btinternet.com/~finty/

    07/02/2002 09:36:02
    1. Re: [MEATH] McENTAGGART-McINTAGGERT-McTAGGART
    2. Carol Hopkins
    3. Hi Helen, Sorry, nothing listed for these names. Carol. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [MEATH] McENTAGGART-McINTAGGERT-McTAGGART > Hi Carol, > > Could you check for McENTAGGART-McINTAGGERT-McTAGGART? > > Thank you so very much! :) > > Happy hunting, Helen (DCGS) > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > We can have FUN with this list. Interesting history was centered there, like for example, Meath was a Province of Ireland, but the King didn't play well with the Kings next door, so he and his kindom was ousted. > >

    07/02/2002 08:25:08