When I returned form Turf cutting this morning, and stoking the fire, placed the kettle on the hob, to boil, and cranked up the generator, I saw that you were indeed searching for some realistic things in Ireland like ancestors.......so I thought that these two may fit the tree you are researching. And indeed McDermotts did come to Australia the land of Kangaroos and blow flies, and generators, candles torches and laptops......... We even have a new pipe line installed with gas being hooked to the houses, I am so happy about this, means that I wont have to go turf cutting anymore, or crank the generator, and maybe that old plane I have out the back will fly again ....... MCDERMOTT, Bridget Birth Sex: Female Birth Date: 9 Feb 1869 Birthplace: Kells, Meath, Ire Recorded in: Civil Registration for Ireland Father: Mathew MCDERMOTT Mother: Bridget SULLY MC DERMOTT, Anne Birth Sex: Female Birth Date: 4 Jun 1871 Birthplace: Kells, Meath, Ire Recorded in: Civil Registration for Ireland Father: Mathew MC DERMOTT Mother: Biddy SULLY Cheers Have to Run I hear the Gypsys at the door and that means work.

Hi Thank you for your help. I misunderstood I thought Anne, and Bridget went to Austraila. I thought I'd never find the Mcdermott's. It is so hot here today. I'd gladly change places with you as I am a cold weather person. I'm doing Meals on Wheels today.I don't know if you have that in Australia but we deliver meals to shut ins. Take Care, Stay Warm, Eileen

Hi Do you mean Bridget and Anne went to Australia? My ggrandmother Jane Mcdermott came to Phila. and married my ggrandfather Peter Callaghan in Sept.1889. They had 3 children Anna, John, Thomas(mygrandfather). Peter died in April3,1922 at their home in West Phila. Jane died in Feb.1958. Do you know any other siblings names? They did have another sister named Kate. Jane had 16 siblings. Take Care, Eileen

>As an IT consultant from county Armagh, I prefer not to comment on the extent of >Ireland's technology achievements. Suffice to say, I have to finish this email quickly as the >turf fired gas supply on my laptop is about to run out. Now you know why I live in Wales, Hugh. Coal is SO much cheaper... >People should always remember read to their email draft before it posting. What?!!!. Leave us SOME fun in life! Iechydd Da/Slainte Bry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hugh Daly" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 11:02 AM Subject: [MEATH] What a pity! > I am saddened to learn of the demise of the recent debate on our Heritage Centre. This was a great source of entertainment, and a welcome break from the rest of the postings. [snip]

I am saddened to learn of the demise of the recent debate on our Heritage Centre. This was a great source of entertainment, and a welcome break from the rest of the postings. It was even better than the recent Mike Tyson versus Lennox Lewis boxing match. Of particular humorous interest, was the style of english language. People should always remember read to their email draft before it posting. As an IT consultant from county Armagh, I prefer not to comment on the extent of Ireland's technology achievements. Suffice to say, I have to finish this email quickly as the turf fired gas supply on my laptop is about to run out. Regards Hugh Daly Celtic Warrior

Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can find the family of my ggrandmother Jane Mcdermott she was born in Kells, Meath on Sept.18,1864. Her parents names were Matthew Mcdermott and Bridget Sully. I know she was 1 of 16 children. I know a few of her siblings names. Kate, Bridget, Anne.I sent for her baptismal records and I also went to the LDS FAMILY CENTER. I heard through family some stayed in Ireland, some came to America, and somw went to Australia. Does anyone know of her family? Or can someone direct me in the right direction . Any help would be appreciated.

Hi, Iwas wondering if anyone can give me any suggestions on how to find the family of my ggrandfather Peter Callaghan. He was born in Kilskyre or Killskeer Meath. He was born June,1858. I know Ireland started keeping Civil Records since 1864. I also know he had a sister Margaret born Aug. 1871. I sent for baptismal records in the parish, and I went to the LDS FAMILY CENTER. His parents names were Philip Callaghan and Anne Sheridan. Does anyone have any other suggestions?

Thank you Don: I agree with you and had requested that the moderator step in and say ok ....enough is enough on line .....contact each other off line. Some of the information was good and informative but now it is just dragging on.....can anyone help with the Sheridans from Co. Meath? !!!!!John born 1800 married one Mary Ann Lowrey and had three children in Ireland and then arrive in Nova Scotia circa 1836 with their fourth child and had 5 more here. Thanks, James P.Barnaby @mail [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Kelly" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2002 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [MEATH] Attention Mr Morgan you are out of line > Hello listers, > > I don't step in off genealogy subjects often, but I believe that the > following subject is over, and if continued, please do so off list. > Thanks all for making this list user friendly. > Admin > > > Subject: Re: [MEATH] Attention Mr Morgan you are out of line > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.371 / Virus Database: 206 - Release Date: 6/13/02 > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > Add your associated County Meath genealogy homepage URL here, contact admin: <a href="mailto:[email protected]">CLICK</a> >

Can the moderator for this list....put an end to this .....thread of postings...I for one am getting tired of reading and re-reading the same old thing.........if anyone needs to reply to an individual posting let them do so directly to the person and not on the list. Hoping you can bring a end to this. James P.Barnaby @mail [email protected]

CALLAGHAN, Margaret Birth Sex: Female Birth Date: 26 Aug 1869 Birthplace: Killskeer, Meath, Ire Recorded in: Civil Registration for Ireland Father: Philip CALLAGHAN Mother: Anne SHERIDAN cheers Cara

> An apology for telling the truth? Yes truth is when you tell it as it should be to accuse someone of being border line racist is not the norm is it? The truth as you wrote it was to advertise what a man is capable of not doing think and read what was written in the context of how it was written You are the one who should be making the > apologies I never accused you of being border line racist did I ? If I did then kindly show me the mail.......... for perpetuating and stereotyping the Irish people as a > happy-go-lucky bunch incapable of efficient administration. When it comes down to the sad sorry fact of geneology this is a fact you cant go past that they dont give an apple about it all they cant see what the fuss is about ............take a look at the mails that have come down this week every one of them a complaint about how it should or shouldnt be done .........and now this mail is your way of seeing what was written as it was intended just another point that you are incappable of seing what was written as it was written > In your Ireland do they still ride around on donkeys and live in thatched > cottages? Your thoughts not mine but the the thatched cottages do still exist in parts of Ireland and so do the donkeys perhaps you should lighten up and visit one and relax.......even visit the donkey farms that exist .........not all things have been passed over for the high tech Ireland you work in . That Ireland doesn't exist, ............well very well then if that is what you think then this Ireland no longer exists but only wher you have been try looking for it sir it still exists all beit not enough anymore. Welsh side of my > family sing as they walk home from the pit with lamps on their helmets! Unfortuantely so did mine I hope that for there sakes that there lights shone wonderfully bright as yours isnt right now. > But the fact remains that the Irish genealogical 'industry' needs a real > shake up. I wont dispute this part of your course of words but the fact remains the way you wanted to do it wont work LOUD/ also KICKING thats not the way to do it IS IT? > THAT'S the point I was making. > Bryan Morgan Your point could have been made with the simple statement you just made not a tirade at whether I am border line racist or not ...........would you enjoy me calling you that no I dont think so and I still think you are out of line Mr Morgan but As I am of the oppinion that no matter what anyone would or could say to you now you have your helmet in a twist and that is that ........ I have taken you point aboard and offer you the challenge seeing as you are in and out of Irelan in 35 minutes to go see the necessary people and solve the problem Cheers Cara > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cara_Links" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2002 3:40 AM > Subject: Re: [MEATH] Attention Mr Morgan you are out of line > > > > Sir, > > I would have like to challenged you down the web but you of course no that > > it would cause a falme (a "falme?") > > > > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > Visit The Roscommon Database for uncommon records: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlros/ >

A few years ago I visited Ireland on vacation, and being as Irish as Paddy's pig, decided to do what all good Irishmen do -- some ancestral research in Meath. I didn't have much luck digging around by myself. I even knocked on a lot of doors in Longwood and Hill of Downs, but no one had ever heard of my surname there. I must say, though, that everyone who came to the door on which I knocked was extremely friendly and tried to help wherever they could. "Oh," one charming lady commented, "you're a Yank! Come in. you're just in time for tea." As it turned out, I told here more about where I came from than she could tell me about my ancestors. When I came home and earnestly got into this ancestor search on the web, I contacted the Meath Heritage and Genealogy Centre in Trim by letter, a write-up of what I knew about them, and a modest search fee. About three weeks later I received a letter from a lady named Carmel Rice and -- bingo! -- she found them. They had passed through Longwood in 1861. I don't yet know from where they originally came, but I'm working on it. I'll probably go back to the Heritage Centre. So have faith. With patience and determination things will work out. All things come to he who sits and waits. Cassidy

Sir, I would have like to challenged you down the web but you of course no that it would cause a falme You carefully worded your line when you stated I am bordering on being a Racist ........ indeed you then go on to give yourself a wonderful pat on the back by flying with Ryanair how nice for you what about travelling with the countries own air line Aer Lingus .......no one questioned there abilities in the high tech world and sir you are not the only one who travels for work to and from the country of Ireland .......and I travel much further than you find the service I use to also be efficient and geared for todays world ....... What I was trying to get across here is the fact that some of these centers are only run by volunteers you have chosen to think that I border on racismn I am of the oppinion sir that you chose to read into the mail exactly what you wished. I also find your remark offensive and desire an apology. No one ever mentioned they are not capable YOU DID THAT I said they were not in hurry and this remark referred to the geneology part of Ireland no other industry ........once again sir you have chosen to see the mail as you desired not as it was written. I never mentioned there abilities in the world of high tech you sir have brought that subject up as I see it as having nothing to do with the mail I sent. And while you may have acess to everything that is modern quick and wonderful to do your gene search with. So do I in my part of the world and also in the other part of the world that I belong to sir.........as Irish as I am and Irish I am .........you sir have bordered on being out of line here and I feel that an apology for your remarks are called for ....... YOUR QUOTE NOT MINE If that attitude is encountered, then a > backside deserves to be kicked and you do this by complaining LOUDLY at > senior management or government minister level, not by sitting meekly back > and waiting for up to year during which time your money is accruing interest > in their accounts. so its kicking your into ......not a nice thing to do in public a carefully written letter to the heads of places I agree with ........but a loudly complaining stranger I am sure he will get it all solved in five minutes ........ Cara _Links The more I explain the harder it is to understand my fellow man so why try?

Hello listers, I don't step in off genealogy subjects often, but I believe that the following subject is over, and if continued, please do so off list. Thanks all for making this list user friendly. Admin Subject: Re: [MEATH] Attention Mr Morgan you are out of line --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.371 / Virus Database: 206 - Release Date: 6/13/02

Hi List: I, too, have had some experience with the Meath Heritage Centre and Parish Priests! About 6 years ago, I first contacted the Centre in reference to my CORCORAN and MONTAGUE ancestors, from Johnstown, Navan, along with a cousin's ancestors, the MULVANEY's, from Furze, Navan. The Centre was very helpful and sent all they could find, along with a bill. I kept contacting them, and finally, they had all their records on computer, so they sent more on the MONTAGUES, but nothing on the CORCORAN's. They also let me know that they have several publications available on searching for your ancestors. I still kept contacting them, and the last suggestion I got was to contact the Parish Priest in Johnstown (they didn't know his name!), which I did, with a check. I was one of the lucky ones! A few weeks later, I received a letter from one of the parishioners! Seem the priest turned my letter over to him because he had recently completed a little booklet of all the Monument Inscriptions in the town cemetery...and the MONTAGUEs were buried there! We corresponded for about 6 months and each time I enclosed a check...and each time it was cashed! He sent his booklet and lots of pictures of the tombstones, the cemetery, and the town. He even went to the Heritage Centre to check for some more info and gave them a copy of his booklet. I must have made a mistake when I mentioned that I might be coming to Ireland soon, and would contact him if and when I did. I never heard from him again!! So, then I wrote to the Parish Priest where I think the CORCORAN's originated, and enclosed a check. That was about two years ago...and I've heard nothing! But the check was cashed! To me, the Heritage Centre was a great help, and well worth what it cost, but it looks like the parish priests just don't want to be bothered. Mary Jean Gardner Baltimore, Maryland

Please folk this is getting a little beyond control letters to Bishops and cross purpsoes about delayed answers ......this is not good enough... The people you are dealing with are IRISH for heavens sakes take it from one who knows it takes them a litttle time to get things done and you could wait from one week to one year this I know___ I have worked with the very same people you are talking about........but eventually a letter arrrived. One step at a time you must be aware that this is the busiest time of their year its the summer time no matter how awful the summer is there it is summer the amount of American Australian etc tourists that are there now researching their ancestors have put a monumental task on their staff .........they do not increase it because it summer as like all places that are gene places a lot are run on voluntary basis...... It took the Meath and Cavan people seven months to get back to me/ eventually but they did it takes the Wicklow County Heritage Center up to a year sometimes to assess you their back log is imense and also the staff is small. What I see as a problem in most of these places is a staffing problem. The other thing I need to point out to you all is this ........we expect our information yesterday not tomorrow and because we have the time to sit here writing emails and swapping ideas they indeed are working people ( not that I am saying that there are not amongst us here working people no offence meant there).......... So folks instead of deciding that someone has taken you money and are ignoring you adopt the Irish way of life and just ease down and wait now if you havent received anything as in Pauls case in a few weeks its time to write a meaningful letter to the person he sent it to as he may well have passed it to a very over burdened worker who is right this minute hunting details .........in a back room while the front door bell is ringing and the liune is growing......... Have any of you ever gone to the BDM in Dublin and gotten a certificate I have the line just keeps on growing for blocks .........so imagine what its like when a tired little worker suddenly appears at her desk and all these mails are there all wanitng a certificate a look up advice and her pile of mail keeps growing ,,,,, Sorry folks have held you up long enough just wanted you to be aware what its like in Ireland NO ONES in a hurry but I love them all dearlyu Cara

To Paul... Well put !!!

Hi Paul As you can see below, I have had a similar experience to you. A US money order should have been okay in Ireland, as I was recently sent one here to New Zealand and had no trouble cashing it. Beryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul E. Dowling" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2002 12:20 AM Subject: RE: [MEATH] Meath Libraries > I hope you don't mind my commiseration, folks. My personal experience won't > brighten the prognosis. Roughly six months ago, I nice young lady in LAOIS, > perhaps a cousin, contacted the parish priest, in Oldcastle. He promised her > that, if contacted, he would research a family member. I followed up with an > explicit letter, mentioning his offer to the young lady, the family members > name, and a small donation. The donation was in the form of a pre-paid money > order, is US dollars. > > No response, so far. > > Frankly, I'm quite naive when it comes to international/European money, and > maybe my payment methods became null, in Ireland. But I haven't even heard > back, if that was the case. I guess there's hundreds of non-sinister reasons > why I've no response, but I tell you true, I'm disappointed. > > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: B Young [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 4:12 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MEATH] Meath Libraries > > > Hi Eileen > > No I didn't send a check (New Zealand dollars are no use there) but a reply > coupon for postage. Both my 2xgt grandparents died here in New Zealand in > 1895 and 1899, and I have both their certs; neither mentions who their > parents were. I am just out of luck, because by about 1905 they had to name > the parents, but not before that. By other means (navy muster rolls of 1805) > I have found his father's name, but still don't know his mother's. It is > quite frustrating, as my 2 x gt grandfather left a wonderful autobiography, > but he always refers to his parents as 'my mother' or 'my father' and his > brothers as 'my brother' etc, never by name. > > All the best > Beryl > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 12:31 PM > Subject: Re: [MEATH] Meath Libraries > > > > > > > > Hi Beryl, > > > > I'm just curious did you send the local parish a check? I did. So maybe > > i'll get a reply. Do you have your ggrandparents death certificates? I > don't > > know what they're like in NZ. But in the states they name the parents of > the > > deceased. I hope you find > > what your looking for! Thank You for the reply. > > > > Take care Eileen > > > > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > > In your search for records, keep in mind that in old Ireland, borders for > provinces, baronies, counties, archdiocese, diocese and townlands moved with > swings of the battle axe. Check nearby places for records. > > > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > Visit The Roscommon Database for uncommon records: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlros/ > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > This list is for everyone with a genealogical interest in County Meath. > County Meath website is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlmea2/ > Ireland Project Website: http://irelandgenealogyprojects.rootsweb.com/ >

An apology for telling the truth? You are the one who should be making the apologies for perpetuating and stereotyping the Irish people as a happy-go-lucky bunch incapable of efficient administration. In your Ireland do they still ride around on donkeys and live in thatched cottages? That Ireland doesn't exist, no more than the Welsh side of my family sing as they walk home from the pit with lamps on their helmets! But the fact remains that the Irish genealogical 'industry' needs a real shake up. THAT'S the point I was making. Bryan Morgan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cara_Links" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2002 3:40 AM Subject: Re: [MEATH] Attention Mr Morgan you are out of line > Sir, > I would have like to challenged you down the web but you of course no that > it would cause a falme (a "falme?") >

Good Morning List, I have had a recent positive experience with the parish priest in Dunshauglin. I emailed him about my great grandfather and while he was unable to locate his marriage he sent me the names of 2 older residents that I could write to who seemed to have heard of him. It took a while for his reply to come as he was out of town when I sent it. He was most helpful. Patricia Snyder