I am from New Zealand and quite lost with my Irish research, so I am hoping someone will be able to help me. My ggGrandfather was John Webb,born in 1798,in Hilltown County , Westmeath,son of John Webb(Gentleman) and Mary Crates. However his marriage certificate in 1852 shows him as Esq of Dances Court, Athboy. Have been told the family owned flour mills there but they burned down so John,his wife Mabella Graves came out to NZ with their 11 children in 1874. In NZ John Webb is described as a half pay Military Officer, Lieutenant of the Cavan Militia. Could some one please tell me about these Militias or where I could find the information. It might help me know more about John Webb, as he was about 54 when he married, his wife was from Limerick and the children were born in different places.Would be most grateful if anyone can help. Thankyou Sandra Mentjox [email protected] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.375 / Virus Database: 210 - Release Date: 7/10/02

http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlmea2/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwem2/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan ......................" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 2:45 AM Subject: Re: [MEATH] Counties Meath and Westmeath > Hello Don: > > Im in Swords, lately from Australia, an American....im looking for LARACOR > CEMETERY which has been there since at least 1777.....can you help me find > it...? > > David Grierson > Grierson World Project > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 11/13/02

Dear Listers, I am trying to trace the Shaw part of my family in Bective, County Meath, Ireland. So far I have managed to trace my great-grandmother, Helen (or Ellen) Elizabeth Shaw, who was born in Ireland in approximately 1867. Her father's name was James Shaw, he was a public and (according to Helen's wedding certificate). He also ran an animal feeds business from his home in Bective. I also remember my grandfather talking of visits to the Shaw family home in Bective roundabout the early 1900s. He mentioned one of Helen's brothers, or possibly a cousin, called Harry Shaw. Additionally in the 1901 senses for Salford, England, Helen is now married, a Robert V Shaw is mentioned as a lodger with Helen and her husband. Born in Ireland, in approximately 1869. I assume this to be her brother or a cousin. Do any of the above names mean anything to anybody. Failing this can anybody give me any advice as to how I can trace the family from England, if at all possible.

Greetings Ireland Listers, Counties Meath and Westmeath GenWeb websites are adoptable. Must know wysiswyg and html editing software. Preferable the County Coordinator should live in one of the counties or in Ireland, but applications from England, Wales, Scotland, Australia and New Zealand are also very welcome............long as your ancestors came from Ireland. This is an opportunity to put your web building, page designing and genealogical research abilities to work helping researchers in the land we came from, Ireland. To apply, just respond to this message (respond to sender) with subject "Adopt" and we will process your application. Thanks all.............the Ireland Projects are moving very rapidly upward. Donald O'Collaugh Kelly National Coordinator Ireland Genealogy Projects, IGP TM URL= http://irelandgenealogyprojects.rootsweb.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 11/13/02

Listers I am a new member to this list. I am researching the surnames of KELSH & PRESTAGE. Marrie & Patrick KELSH, a farmer in Slackallan Parish,County Meath. They had a son named John who married Catherine PRESTAGE abt. 1828, and moved to Hobart Town, Tasmania, Australia abt. 1830 where John set up the "John KELSH Colonial Hospital." I am looking for any information on the above and any living relatives that I can correspond with. Thank You Bill Chapman Sandpoint, Idaho USA

Cool! from Hugh Daly (Seeking information about a wood cutter and temple builder called Daly, who lived in the Meath area around 2500BC. Also made jigsaws in his spare time.) ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul E. Dowling <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 4:12 PM Subject: [MEATH] FW: [Brehon Law] Huge Temple Found under Hill of Tara > > http://www.online.ie/news/irish_examiner/viewer.adp?article=1880191 > > Huge temple found under Hill of Tara > The Irish Examiner 12 Nov 2002 > > Evelyn Ring > > A HUGE temple, once surrounded by about 300 huge posts made from an entire > oak forest, has been discovered directly beneath the Hill of Tara in Co > Meath. Conor Newman, an archaeology lecturer at NUI Galway, said the > discovery at the ancient site made sense of the positioning of other graves > and monuments in the area. > > Mr Newman, who has been working on the Hill of Tara under the State-funded > Discovery Programme since 1992, was delighted by the find. "It fills a very > important place in the jigsaw because it allows us to make sense of the > distribution of other monuments all around it." > > > The Discovery Programme, set up under the auspices of the Heritage Council, > carried out a survey of the Hill of Tara between 1992 and 1996 when Mr > Newman > was director. > > > When Mr Newman moved to Galway he continued to be involved in the project > Using sophisticated technology, he and his team of experts mapped what was > underground. The work was slow and tedious because it yielded such a huge > amount of information. > > > What they uncovered eventually at the crown of the hill was a huge, > oval-shaped monument measuring about 170 metres at its widest point. Around > it are 300 post holes measuring two metres wide, indicating a massive human > effort involved in the construction. > > > "We think it probably dates from 2500 to 2300BC and still had a big physical > presence even after the posts were taken out or rotted," Mr Newman said. > > > While the monument is located just below the ground's surface, there are no > plans yet to dig it out. > > > "There was a time when excavation was the first step in archaeological > research. That's not the case now because it really is the systematic > destruction of a monument. When you are dealing with something as important > as the Hill of Tara, you don't do something like that lightly." > > > Mr Newman reckons they will be able to learn more about the site from the > data before the ground itself is finally excavated. "What we have is the > clearest underground image I have ever seen. This one jumps off the page." > > > Mr Newman is concerned about a planned extension of the N3 motorway from > Clonee to just north of Kells. One of the sections from Dunshaughlin to > Navan > runs along the east side of the Hill of Tara. > > > I have absolutely no doubt that they will be destroying dozens of monuments > connected to Tara. >

Tom - I too am researching the Connell's from Meath and West Meath! I can trace my family to a Patrick Connell from the Parish of Clonmellon who had married a Rose DOBBINS. The one son I know of, John Connell was born in 1841. He was a carpenter by trade and married a Mary COOGAN in November 1866. This produced the following children: Patrick (1868), Anne & James (twins) 1870, Mary (1872), John Charles (1873 - my direct line) and Michael (1875). John Charles emigrated around 1892 to Philadelphia. He lived there until he died in 1957. Happy to send you what I have on this family. You can contact me off the list at [email protected] Peggy Waltham, MA ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 7:16 PM Subject: [MEATH] Connell or O'Connell, Clonmellon Area, Meath, Westmeath > Three siblings from Ireland were in Cattaraugus County, New York State, > USA 1840s thru 1880s. They were Mrs. Edward Jones, Margaret O'Connell, b > about 1810; her sister Mrs. Thomas Brown, Jane O'Connell, b about 1808; and > presumably their brother Andrew O'Connell, b about 1805. All USA records > seen on these three give their surname as O'Connell. In the 1880 census > Margaret and Jane stated they were from Westmeath. > Records from the RC Church at Clonmellon which covers a portion of both > Westmeath and Meath gives the name as Connell. Margaret Connell m. Edward > Jones of Archerstown, Westmeath in 1840 . There is no record of the baptism > of Margaret, Jane or Andrew Connell at Clonmellon nor is there a record of > Jane Connell's marriage to Thomas Brown. They must have lived in a nearby RC > parish in Meath or Westmeath. > Margaret's death certificate lists her father as "J." O'Connell and her > mother as Mary (blank). Edward Jones and Margaret O'Connell named their > second son James. Perhaps Margaret's father was James Connell. Also, the 1796 > Flax Growers list showed a James Connell and Thomas Connell in Killallon, > Meath. The Clonmellon RC Church records go back to 1757. Unless there were > changes over the years to the church parish boundaries, I don't understand > why all these names don't appear in the baptism and marriage records. Any > help to unravel my Connell/O'Connell problem would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks, Tom O'Hare, Buffalo, N.Y., USA. > > > > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > If someone will write a history of Province Meath, it will be posted to Meath, Westmeath and Leinster webpages. Come on you budding historians, Shine. >

Three siblings from Ireland were in Cattaraugus County, New York State, USA 1840s thru 1880s. They were Mrs. Edward Jones, Margaret O'Connell, b about 1810; her sister Mrs. Thomas Brown, Jane O'Connell, b about 1808; and presumably their brother Andrew O'Connell, b about 1805. All USA records seen on these three give their surname as O'Connell. In the 1880 census Margaret and Jane stated they were from Westmeath. Records from the RC Church at Clonmellon which covers a portion of both Westmeath and Meath gives the name as Connell. Margaret Connell m. Edward Jones of Archerstown, Westmeath in 1840 . There is no record of the baptism of Margaret, Jane or Andrew Connell at Clonmellon nor is there a record of Jane Connell's marriage to Thomas Brown. They must have lived in a nearby RC parish in Meath or Westmeath. Margaret's death certificate lists her father as "J." O'Connell and her mother as Mary (blank). Edward Jones and Margaret O'Connell named their second son James. Perhaps Margaret's father was James Connell. Also, the 1796 Flax Growers list showed a James Connell and Thomas Connell in Killallon, Meath. The Clonmellon RC Church records go back to 1757. Unless there were changes over the years to the church parish boundaries, I don't understand why all these names don't appear in the baptism and marriage records. Any help to unravel my Connell/O'Connell problem would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Tom O'Hare, Buffalo, N.Y., USA.

-----Original Message----- From: Ellen Hopman [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:37 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [Brehon Law] Huge Temple Found under Hill of Tara http://www.online.ie/news/irish_examiner/viewer.adp?article=1880191 Huge temple found under Hill of Tara The Irish Examiner 12 Nov 2002 Evelyn Ring A HUGE temple, once surrounded by about 300 huge posts made from an entire oak forest, has been discovered directly beneath the Hill of Tara in Co Meath. Conor Newman, an archaeology lecturer at NUI Galway, said the discovery at the ancient site made sense of the positioning of other graves and monuments in the area. Mr Newman, who has been working on the Hill of Tara under the State-funded Discovery Programme since 1992, was delighted by the find. "It fills a very important place in the jigsaw because it allows us to make sense of the distribution of other monuments all around it." The Discovery Programme, set up under the auspices of the Heritage Council, carried out a survey of the Hill of Tara between 1992 and 1996 when Mr Newman was director. When Mr Newman moved to Galway he continued to be involved in the project Using sophisticated technology, he and his team of experts mapped what was underground. The work was slow and tedious because it yielded such a huge amount of information. What they uncovered eventually at the crown of the hill was a huge, oval-shaped monument measuring about 170 metres at its widest point. Around it are 300 post holes measuring two metres wide, indicating a massive human effort involved in the construction. "We think it probably dates from 2500 to 2300BC and still had a big physical presence even after the posts were taken out or rotted," Mr Newman said. While the monument is located just below the ground's surface, there are no plans yet to dig it out. "There was a time when excavation was the first step in archaeological research. That's not the case now because it really is the systematic destruction of a monument. When you are dealing with something as important as the Hill of Tara, you don't do something like that lightly." Mr Newman reckons they will be able to learn more about the site from the data before the ground itself is finally excavated. "What we have is the clearest underground image I have ever seen. This one jumps off the page." Mr Newman is concerned about a planned extension of the N3 motorway from Clonee to just north of Kells. One of the sections from Dunshaughlin to Navan runs along the east side of the Hill of Tara. I have absolutely no doubt that they will be destroying dozens of monuments connected to Tara. ************************************************************* Ellen Evert Hopman, author, herbalist, Druid Priestess www.geocities.com/gaias_song/willow.html " Gaine daughter of pure Gumor, nurse of mead-loving Mide, surpassed all women though she was silent; she was learned and a seer and a Druid." The Metrical Dindsenchas To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

I am new to this mailing list, and am looking for any additional information on my GGGgrandparents, Catherine (nee PRESTIGE) and John KELSH who were married in the county Meath and then sailed to Australia on the ship Fame, where their daughter, Frances Rachel, was born in route. John's parents were Marrie and Patrick KELSH. Hope to hear from someone soon. Bill Chapman Sandpoint, Idaho USA

Looking for any and all MILLIE's. David Thompson London, Ontario, Canada [email protected]

Paul I guess this encludes those who die at sea. I have two Cpt. Peter John Chevalier Paul Lebrun Nan Curtis Armstrong, Brunner, Campbell, Carley, Chevalier, Clark, Clay/Klee, Cochran, Curtis, Dawes, De Remer Durbin, Foote, Gardner, Garretson, Gibson, Griffin, Hare/Hair, Hays, Kantner, Kitch, Lancaster, Langlois, Laughlin, LeBrun, Leduc, MacDonald, Mann, Morgan, Redding, Rice, Valier/Vallier.

Please forgive the cross posting, but this mail regards all Ireland based lists. It touches on the UK's plan to destroy what is known as "overseas" records. These are vital records, such as BMD's of folks born at sea. Although I don't think I'd be effected by the plan, who knows. The bonehead that I am, I can't recall what site I got the original notice from. My thanx to whoever sent the original. Paul -----Original Message----- From: Davies, Howard [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 9:39 AM To: 'Paul E. Dowling' Subject: RE: PRO CONSULTATION DRAFT OPERATIONAL SELECTION POLICY 18 - OVER SEAS BMD Dear Mr Dowling Thank you for your comments on the draft OSP. These will be considered along with other responses to the draft at the close of the consultation period, and I will contact you again then to let you know the result. Howard Davies -----Original Message----- From: Paul E. Dowling [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 07 November 2002 14:14 To: [email protected] Subject: PRO CONSULTATION DRAFT OPERATIONAL SELECTION POLICY 18 - OVERSEAS BMD Mr. Davies; I strongly urge you not to destroy reconrds as, currently contemplated in this selection policy. Please consider the FFHS offer to receive these records. Thanx, Paul This e-mail message (and attachments) may contain information that is confidential to The Public Record Office. If you are not the intended recipient you cannot use, distribute or copy the message or attachments. In such a case, please notify the sender by return e-mail immediately and erase all copies of the message and attachments. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message and attachments that do not relate to the official business of the Public Record Office are neither given nor endorsed by it.

BlankDoes anyone know of a travel video that includes County Meath, Ireland? Sue-Ellen --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses at tqci.net]

Hi...has anybody ever seen a Thomas Elmore in their travels...he was raised on a Lord Taylors estate in county Meath..... he was born approximately 1813...... Thanks...Judy

You will find a Geoghegan in your family Tree apart from sympathy...my indexes are yours come...join the band Jo ============================================ My newsletters, now up to Volume ten, are at: www.btinternet.com/~finty/ ============================================

Looking for Bannens from Co Meath. Edward came to Canada in about 1830s. He may have had a brother, Patrick. Edward was born about 1811 or 1815 in Co Meath. I have no idea how to find out what town. My sister and I are planning a trip there next spring and would like to find the town. Any suggestions? Debi Bannen Morse

Mary at [email protected] writes: << gernonstown still exists or if it goes by another name now? >> Mary, Gernonstown townland still exists (in its own civil parish), and stretches its square mile of land from a short stretch of the R 163 road, at about 3 miles west of Slane, up to the north, about a mile, to a minor road. And then back along both sides of this minor road toward Slane, reaching within a mile and a half of the town. There is a ruined, probably early Parish church, with adjacent graveyard in the townland. As the church ruins are of the undivided nave and chancel type, the church is probably quite "old" - relatively speaking. Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

dear list, hello, happy sunday to all...i am looking for my ancient norman gernon family , any information possible and to know if their stronghold in meath, gernonstown still exists or if it goes by another name now? all information and help greatly appreciated, regards, mary

I'm looking for the family of my ggrandmother Jane McDermott, she was born in Kells, Co. Meath. Her parents names were Matthew McDermott and Bridget Tully. She was 1 of 15 children. Her siblings names were . John-born-Aug. 15,1859, Mary-born-Aug.15,1860, Patrick-born-March 15,1863, Jane-born-Sept.21,1864, Catherine-born-Aug.26,1866, Bridget-born-Feb.14,1869, Anne-born-June6,1871, Joseph andMary-born-June23,1872(twins), Francis-born-March 31,1874, Josephine-born- May 11,1876, Matthew-born-April 16,1878, Teresa-born-June 5,1880, Elizabeth &Rose-born-June 22,1882.Josephine married Bernard Clusker in Kells on April 28,1897.