Help! I can't find ancestors of my gr grandfather Philip Ledwidge from Co. Meath. He was born about 1821 (don't know where), came to USA in 1841, married Ann Gibney, and died in New Orleans, La. in 1861. I know about Frances Ledwidge but cannot make a connection. Merle Ann [email protected]

My cousins find the oldest version of surname OWEN in Wales. My Owen cousins say the family was a long time in north and south Ireland. I don't know how long is long, but in a very old map of Munster I found a territory called Owenaught. As Conn stands for the founders of Connaught, does Owen also stand for the early clans who founded Munster? There is a little genealogy and a lot of history in this question. Don Kelly, Owen, Rutledge, Middleton, Hext, etc. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/03

DONOUGHPATRICK, a parish, partly in the barony of LOWER NAVAN, but chiefly in that of UPPER KELLS, county of MEATH, and province of LEINSTER, 4 miles (N. W.) from Navan; containing 931 inhabitants. St: Patrick is said to have founded an abbey here, to which Conal Mac Neill was a great benefactor; it was frequently plundered and burnt by the Danes prior to its final destruction by them in 994. The parish is situated on the road from Enniskillen to Drogheda, and on the river Blackwater: it comprises 3605 statute acres, as applotted under the tithe act. The land is about half under tillage and half pasturage, and of superior quality: there are quarries of limestone and brownstone. The gentlemen's seats are Gibbstown, that of J. N. Gerrard, Esq., situated in a well-planted demesne of about 1270 statute acres; and Randlestown, the property of Col. Everard, but the residence of Henry Meredith, Esq The living is a vicarage, in the diocese of Meath, united by act of council, in 1801, to the rectory of Kilberry and in the patronage of Col. Everard, in whom the rectory is impropriate. The tithes amount to £280, of which £180 is payable to the impropriator, and £100 to the vicar; the gross value of the benefice, tithe and glebe inclusive, is £509. 9 shillings and 2 pence. The glebe-house was erected in 1812, by aid of a gift. of £200, and a loan of £600, from the late Board of First Fruits: the glebe comprises 18 acres, valued at £36 per annum. The church is a neat edifice; the body was rebuilt in 1805 and attached to an ancient tower; the Ecclesiastical Commissioners have recently granted £104. 3 shillings and 7pence for its repair. In the R. C. divisions the parish forms part of the union of Kilberry and Telltown. The parochial school is aided by the incumbent, who has also given a house and garden and in three private schools about 120 boys and 50 girls are educated.A large Danes fort at Gibbstown has been planted

The CD which contains the index to Griffith's Valuation gives the name of the head of household, the county and civil parish. It also (for a fee of $8.00) will give the townland within the civil parish. You can get the townland by addressing an e-mail to this list asking someone to look it up for you. Savings? $8.00. Regards, Tom.

Hi Judi, A couple of suggestions... Could Kalkelkeen in County Meath possibly be Killucan in Co.Westmeath or Co. Tyrone? 1) You can use the IreAtlas Townland Database on the Leitrim-Roscommon website to type in the name of a townland or part of the name and see the names of counties in all of Ireland with a townland by that name, or part of the name. In the case of Killucan, I typed in KILLU, and both Westmeath and Tyrone have townlands with that name. Here is the site for the IreAtlas Townland Database: <http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/> 2) You can use the website at the Irish Times to look up your ancestors surname and find out how many families with the name were living in the various counties of Ireland during the time of the Griffith's Valuation 1848-1864. Here is the Irish Times website: <www.ireland.com> When you get to the site, scroll down the page and look on the lower right side of the webpage, you will see "Ancestors", click there and when that webpage comes up look to the upper left and enter your surname. There were several variants of Jameson (ieson, eison, ison, sons, etc.). There were only two spelled Jameson, one in Co. Tyrone, and one in Co. Wexford. The spelling can often be off, depending on who is giving the information, recording it, etc. Good luck, Denise

Irish places are listed at http://www.calle.com/world/ireland/index.html perhaps you can find a place with a close sound; there isn't a place with this spelling. Try "Kil" instead of Kal.... > From: "Judi Carlson" <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:48:52 -0600 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [MEATH] Kalkelkeen > Resent-From: [email protected] > Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 14:50:05 -0700 > > I have only word of mouth that an ancestor came from Kalkelkeen in Co. > Meath - surname of Jameson. I cannot find Kalkelkeen on a map of Co. > Meath and wonder if there is really such a place. Thank you for any > information you can help with. Judi > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > Visit The Roscommon Database for uncommon records: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlros/ ........History or Genealogy are fair > subjects here, but current politics and religion issues are not. >

Also if you go to http://scripts.ireland.com/ancestor/surname/index.cfm you can do a surname search which will show what, how many and where households of that names were located in the Primary Valuation property survey of 1848-64. To get more details just costs by county just costs $8. >From: Fay Finn <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [MEATH] Kalkelkeen >Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 22:44:15 -0600 > >Irish places are listed at http://www.calle.com/world/ireland/index.html >perhaps you can find a place with a close sound; there isn't a place with >this spelling. Try "Kil" instead of Kal.... > > > > From: "Judi Carlson" <[email protected]> > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:48:52 -0600 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [MEATH] Kalkelkeen > > Resent-From: [email protected] > > Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 14:50:05 -0700 > > > > I have only word of mouth that an ancestor came from Kalkelkeen in Co. > > Meath - surname of Jameson. I cannot find Kalkelkeen on a map of Co. > > Meath and wonder if there is really such a place. Thank you for any > > information you can help with. Judi > > > > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > > Visit The Roscommon Database for uncommon records: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlros/ ........History or Genealogy are fair > > subjects here, but current politics and religion issues are not. > > > > >==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== >Visit The Roscommon Database for uncommon records: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlros/ ........History or Genealogy are fair >subjects here, but current politics and religion issues are not. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

I have only word of mouth that an ancestor came from Kalkelkeen in Co. Meath - surname of Jameson. I cannot find Kalkelkeen on a map of Co. Meath and wonder if there is really such a place. Thank you for any information you can help with. Judi

Greetings-- Searching for information on the marriage and family of DANIEL O'CONNOR and JANE ROBINSON. They supposedly operated a public house. Their children included my grandfather, JOHN J. O'CONNOR [email protected] and his twin sister. I don't know her name but she is said to have married a KELLY. John O'Connor married Catherine Barry in Boston @ 1910. Thanks for any help! Mary Anne (O'Connor) Wenig NC, USA

Hi Bryan: I'm sorry that it took me so long to get back in touch with you. I have given some thought to your question, but I don't have anything new to add to what I've already mentioned. The reason for that is because after reflecting on the subject of religion, I can't remember one word where it every mentions in all the data that I've compiled, where their religions are ever mentioned. I can tell you that they lived around Trim Castle and that many of them were buried in the Laracor Parish Church Cemtery, about 1.5 miles from the Castle. Many of the others were buried at Mount Jerome Cemetery in Dublin. I have the cemetery records of most of them if it would help. The Gibson connections are buried at Laracor in Meath. Best wishes, Dave Grierson From: "Bryan" <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MEATH] FOX - GIBSON - GRIERSON relations in Meath Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 02:39:38 -0000 Hello Alan, Would these be protestant families? My wife's family is 'Melvin' from Oldcastle, and it seems there are Gibson links there. Best wishes Bry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan ......................" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 1:52 AM Subject: [MEATH] FOX - GIBSON - GRIERSON relations in Meath I am very interested in, and I have been working very hard towards discovering the complex relationships between the FOX family, the GIBSON family, and other relationships of the Griersons of County Meath. I would welcome any information. David Grierson _________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral

Alan, There is a very detailed book on the Fox family. I don't have the name of it available anymore, but I think it is available in the catalog section of the LDS site. The pages that I obtained concerned the marriage of Matthew Fox, of Foxbrooke, to Elizabeth Grierson abt. 1771 in County Meath. Mike Hillyard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan ......................" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 7:52 PM Subject: [MEATH] FOX - GIBSON - GRIERSON relations in Meath > I am very interested in, and I have been working very hard towards > discovering the complex relationships between the FOX family, the GIBSON > family, and other relationships of the Griersons of County Meath. I would > welcome any information. > > David Grierson > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to > http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > In your search for records, keep in mind that in old Ireland, borders for provinces, baronies, counties, archdiocese, diocese and townlands moved with swings of the battle axe. Check nearby places for records. >

unsubscribe -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [SMTP:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 8:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: IRL-MEATH-D Digest V03 #6 << Message: Untitled Attachment >> << Message: [MEATH] Fw: Re: Surnames, Lineages and Family History >> << Message: [MEATH] KENNEDY and EGINTON families of Crossakiel/Crossakeel, Co. Meath >>

I am very interested in, and I have been working very hard towards discovering the complex relationships between the FOX family, the GIBSON family, and other relationships of the Griersons of County Meath. I would welcome any information. David Grierson _________________________________________________________________ MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral

Hello Alan, Would these be protestant families? My wife's family is 'Melvin' from Oldcastle, and it seems there are Gibson links there. Best wishes Bry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan ......................" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 1:52 AM Subject: [MEATH] FOX - GIBSON - GRIERSON relations in Meath I am very interested in, and I have been working very hard towards discovering the complex relationships between the FOX family, the GIBSON family, and other relationships of the Griersons of County Meath. I would welcome any information. David Grierson _________________________________________________________________ MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== In your search for records, keep in mind that in old Ireland, borders for provinces, baronies, counties, archdiocese, diocese and townlands moved with swings of the battle axe. Check nearby places for records.

Thomas BROWN, b 1800, Ireland, and wife Jane CONNELL, b 1808, Ireland are believed to be from the Meath-Westmeath area. They emigrated to Shaftsbury, Vermont, USA between 1843 and 1846 where they farmed. They moved to Mansfield, Cattaraugus County, New York about 1852. Six of their seven children were John b 1836, Mary 1840, Margaret 1843, all born Ireland, and Andrew 1846, Thomas 1849, and James 1850, all born Vermont. Jane was the sister of Margaret CONNELL who married Edward JONES at Clonmellon RC parish in 1840. That RC parish covers parts of Meath and Westmeath. The Joneses also emigrated to Mansfield, N.Y. Thomas died 1879, Jane 1880, both in Mansfield and are buried at the RC cemetery, Ellicottville, N.Y. with four of their children. Seeking information as to the origins of the Brown and Connell families in Ireland. Thanks, Tom O'Hare, Buffalo, N.Y.

Hello I am new to this list but have been looking for my grandfather John Fayne(born abt 1880) & greatgrandfather James Fayne for many years. They were horse trainers and jockies and John was killed whilst taking horses overseas abt 1912. I have had the Irish births checked for John but without success. Would love to hear from anyone interested in this family. Regards Jean in New Zealand

Hello all, I am searching for information on the KENNEDY and EGINTON families of Crossakiel/Crossakeel, Co. Meath, located approx. 5 miles west of Kells. Kathryn KENNEDY, b. 13 January 1881, came to America and apparently settled in New York City sometime before 1897. Unfortunately, I can find no record of her on any ship passenger lists. John KENNEDY, b. 1843, and Eleanor EGINTON, b. 1847, were married in 1868. I believe these may have been the parents of Kathryn KENNEDY, because she apparently listed John KENNEDY and Ellen EGENTON as the names of her parents on her Social Security application. If anyone has any information on these families, or where I could find birth/marriage/death records for any of these people, the information would be greatly appreciated. Victoria Evans __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Gaines" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 6:14 AM Subject: Fw: Re: Surnames, Lineages and Family History > County Meath > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Taffe Family"<[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Date: Thu Jan 16 13:54:22 PST 2003 > Subject: Re: Surnames, Lineages and Family History > > >Mallon -- I am looking for information on Mary Mallon born Feb. 2, 1828 in Dormstown (I believe that was a street in Navan, not sure), Co. Meath. I am interested in information on her parents and siblings as I know nothing about her except after she arrived in the US. > > > ___________________________________________________ > GO.com Mail > Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 1/10/03

With a side order of Prendergast, Doyle ,Atkins Coyle and a hint of Sullivans ( just one) No idea where they are from Helpfully born "Ireland" all died in Westminster London from 1828 to 1888.... be glad to hear from you jo ============================================ Geoghegan Newsletters are at: www.btinternet.com/~finty/ ============================================

BlankI just got an obit in the mail today for Mary Jane (McDermott) Clarke who was born in Navan, Co. Meath, Ireland around 1854. I previously only knew that she was born in Co. Meath. I did not know what town she was born in until now. Sue-Ellen --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses at tqci.net]