[email protected] I don't know that anything is wrong, but the above address subscribed to dozens of lists two days ago, and over yesterday and today has tried to unsubscribe from those lists, plus other lists apparently not on. I would just suggest caution if you see this email address cross your screen, but if legitimate, I'll stop worrying about it. As list admins we have much to worry about.<GRIN> Have a great week all. Don

In a message dated 7/7/03 10:56:06 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > On Sept. 1st, 1801, Baptized Johannis, (son?) to Patt BRADY and > Catherine BRADY. Sponsors: Pattrk CONNOR and Mary BRADY. Thanks, Diane!! My gf was born in Nobber in 1875 -- John O'Connor, and I'm searching for his parents and grandparents. Thanks again - Mary Anne O'Connor

If anyone has knowledge of any Griersons in or near Navan or in and around Meath, please be in touch. David Grierson _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp

I may have forgotten to include a notation from the Nobber Church records that I found for the surnames BRADY and CONNOR. On Sept. 1st, 1801, Baptized Johannis, (son?) to Patt BRADY and Catherine BRADY. Sponsors: Pattrk CONNOR and Mary BRADY. Diane St. Louis, MO

Thank you so much Diane for your time. Gail Trabucco Weare NH

Thank you, Diane. I appreciate the info you found on the Murrays; not sure if they are mine, but will keep the info to see if I can connect them up. Thanks again. FF > From: Diane <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 18:37:37 -0500 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [MEATH] lookup results for LDS film 926179 > Resent-From: [email protected] > Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 17:37:11 -0600 > > Here is what I found on the following LDS film: > > · FHL BRITISH Film 926179: Catholic Church, Parish of Nobber, Navan > Baptisms 1754-1865; marriages, 1757-1865; and deaths, 1757-1866 > > Before I begin this posting, it want everyone to know that this film > contains records going back to 1754. All of it is handwritten in old > fashioned handwriting. It is often unreadable. I skipped some early > years because there were no lookups mentioned for them and they were so > hard to read. By no means, should someone assume that because I looked > for their name and did not find it, that it is not on the film. to > thoroughly research this film would take days! It is light and very > difficult to read. > > CAROLAN - The films is sprinkled with this surname so much so that it > would take a lot of time to write them all down. > > Here is everything I took the time to note. There is a whole lot more. > > *CAROLAN: 1763, Baptism of Conner. Godfather was John Forber (sp?) > *1763: Baptized: Catherine, daughter of Catherine Carolan and Laurence > Carry > *July 2nd, 1813, Baptized John, son of (unreadable - Kit?) and Ann > CAROLAN. Sponsors: Matthew STAFFORD and Cathy BRADY. > *March 30, 1763, Baptized Hugh, son to Phillip MULDUNE and Catherine > CAROLAN. James YORE, godfather and Ann CARROLAN, godmother. > *Nobber Baptisms: Ann, dauther of Margaret GUGERTY (sp?) and James > Kelly. Godfather, Michael CAROLAN, Godmother, Bridget KELLY > *1803 John CAROLAN sponsor of Mary O'Brien, daughter of Michael and Mary > O'BRIEN. > Other CAROLAN names found: Cornelius, Bryan, Peter > Lots of CAROLANs in 1774 - writing is hard to read. > > > Found sponsors: Philip CONNELL and Mary CAROLAN in 1765. > > > OK - here is the rest of it: > > *March 30, 1763, Baptized Margaret, daughter to Conner BIGGEY (sp) and > Elenor Fox Miles MULDUNE. Godmother: Jane KELLY > *In 1769, the priest was Patrick McDERMOTT > > *1763: Baptized James, son to Laurence GEOGHEGAN and Christian DEALY > his wife. Godparents:Christian CRUISE and Joan GELSHEN > *1763: Baptized Mary, daughter to James MULLAN and Catherine GUGERTY, > Godfather: John Walsh, Godmother: Margaret FLOOD > *1763: Baptized Patrick, son to James CONNIN and Allice GILSHENAN. > Godfather: Hugh CARROLAN and Godmother: Mary CARPINTER > *1763: Baptized Bridget, daughter to James CARROLAN and Catherine > MANAHAN. Godfather: James McCOY. Godmother: Margaret REILLY. > *1763: Baptized David, son to Walter MURRSY (Murray?) and Mary MACABE. > Godfather: Laurence GEOHEGAN. Godmother, Mary CONNIN. > *November 18, 1799, College (editor's note: College is a place) James, > son to James and Mary DIGMAN and Vincent GEOGHEGAN > *March 4, 1800, Spidole (sp?), Dennis and Mary FERRELLY godparents John > YORE and Anne BRADY. (Could not read the name of the person baptized) > *1801, July, College, Mary Jr. to Patt and Bridget GEOGHEGAN. > Godparents: Wm. HOY (sp?) and Bridget GEOHEGAN > *1802, August 19, Nobber, Ann, daughter to Pa??? (Patrick?) and Cathy > MURRAY. Godparents ThomasKAVANAGH and Hly(?) CORKMILIED (sp?) > *1802, Patt, son of Thos GALOGHAN and Eliz Rose CUNNINGHAM > *1803, Anne FLANAGHAN of Patt and Mary sp: Patt LERENO?(sp) and Anne BIGGY > *Nobber Baptisms: 1854, Michael, son of ? McCABE and Catherine > McDERMOT, his wife. godfather Owen CAHIL > *1803: Sept. 17, Nich(ael?): GEOGHN of PATT and Bridy. Sponsors: Thos > HIKEY and Mary KOER > *1804, April 2nd, Patt BIGGY of Frank and Mary . Sponsors: Wm CLIFFORD > and Judith FARNIN > *1809, March 15, Nobber, Ann, daugheter to Thos DOWDALL and Mary QUIN. > Sponsors: Matthew and Mary CAROLAN. > *March 24, 1809, Nobber, John, son to James SMYTH and Bridget MURRAY. > Sponsors: James CLARK and Bridget GIBNEY. > *1810, Prospect, Baptized Frank O. to Thos and Judy BYRNE. Sponsor: > Thos SMYTH and Ann ANDREW > *1810, College, Oct. 13, Baptized Michael, son to Peter and Peggy > GAHOGAN. Sponsors: Patt CLARK and Rose GAHOGAN > *May 31, 1765, Died: Thomas FLOOD and buried in Killbarry > > > That's all Folks! > > I researched this film from 11:00 AM to 4:30 PM. I did not find a trace > of John HEENEY (c. 1800) or Ann KEEGAN (c. 1820) - both Roman Catholics. > > If anyone runs across these names I would be very interested. I hope I > found something for somebody! > Diane Shaw > St. Louis, MO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > County Meath and County Westmeath are up for adoption. They combined were the > ancient Province of Meath. When the King of Meath didn't play good with other > Kings, his kingdom was absorbed by Leinster and Ulster. > If interested, Contact list admin: [email protected] >

Kathleen, FYI, I saw some Gilesenans in the old cemetery right behind the 'Church of Ireland' church in the center of Athboy, County Meath, when I was there in May hunting my own ancestors/cousins. Maybe some of them are yours. (I noticed the name because it bore some linguistic similarity to the older 'Hesnan' variant of my patrilineal surname, whose origins are still subject to wild speculation.) ----------------- Annamarie Hessman [email protected] > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 9:20 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MEATH] Gilson/Gilsenans surname in Navan > > > Would it be possible to check and see if you have any > Gilsons/Gilsenans ? I > have Christopher Gilsenan born circa l838 to Thomas and Mary. > > Thank you so much for your kind offer. It is greatly > appreciated. Thank you > and have a nice day. > > Kathleen > > ______________________________

Thanks Diane Maeve

Thanks Diane! Jill

Here is what I found on the following LDS film: · FHL BRITISH Film 926179: Catholic Church, Parish of Nobber, Navan Baptisms 1754-1865; marriages, 1757-1865; and deaths, 1757-1866 Before I begin this posting, it want everyone to know that this film contains records going back to 1754. All of it is handwritten in old fashioned handwriting. It is often unreadable. I skipped some early years because there were no lookups mentioned for them and they were so hard to read. By no means, should someone assume that because I looked for their name and did not find it, that it is not on the film. to thoroughly research this film would take days! It is light and very difficult to read. CAROLAN - The films is sprinkled with this surname so much so that it would take a lot of time to write them all down. Here is everything I took the time to note. There is a whole lot more. *CAROLAN: 1763, Baptism of Conner. Godfather was John Forber (sp?) *1763: Baptized: Catherine, daughter of Catherine Carolan and Laurence Carry *July 2nd, 1813, Baptized John, son of (unreadable - Kit?) and Ann CAROLAN. Sponsors: Matthew STAFFORD and Cathy BRADY. *March 30, 1763, Baptized Hugh, son to Phillip MULDUNE and Catherine CAROLAN. James YORE, godfather and Ann CARROLAN, godmother. *Nobber Baptisms: Ann, dauther of Margaret GUGERTY (sp?) and James Kelly. Godfather, Michael CAROLAN, Godmother, Bridget KELLY *1803 John CAROLAN sponsor of Mary O'Brien, daughter of Michael and Mary O'BRIEN. Other CAROLAN names found: Cornelius, Bryan, Peter Lots of CAROLANs in 1774 - writing is hard to read. Found sponsors: Philip CONNELL and Mary CAROLAN in 1765. OK - here is the rest of it: *March 30, 1763, Baptized Margaret, daughter to Conner BIGGEY (sp) and Elenor Fox Miles MULDUNE. Godmother: Jane KELLY *In 1769, the priest was Patrick McDERMOTT *1763: Baptized James, son to Laurence GEOGHEGAN and Christian DEALY his wife. Godparents:Christian CRUISE and Joan GELSHEN *1763: Baptized Mary, daughter to James MULLAN and Catherine GUGERTY, Godfather: John Walsh, Godmother: Margaret FLOOD *1763: Baptized Patrick, son to James CONNIN and Allice GILSHENAN. Godfather: Hugh CARROLAN and Godmother: Mary CARPINTER *1763: Baptized Bridget, daughter to James CARROLAN and Catherine MANAHAN. Godfather: James McCOY. Godmother: Margaret REILLY. *1763: Baptized David, son to Walter MURRSY (Murray?) and Mary MACABE. Godfather: Laurence GEOHEGAN. Godmother, Mary CONNIN. *November 18, 1799, College (editor's note: College is a place) James, son to James and Mary DIGMAN and Vincent GEOGHEGAN *March 4, 1800, Spidole (sp?), Dennis and Mary FERRELLY godparents John YORE and Anne BRADY. (Could not read the name of the person baptized) *1801, July, College, Mary Jr. to Patt and Bridget GEOGHEGAN. Godparents: Wm. HOY (sp?) and Bridget GEOHEGAN *1802, August 19, Nobber, Ann, daughter to Pa??? (Patrick?) and Cathy MURRAY. Godparents ThomasKAVANAGH and Hly(?) CORKMILIED (sp?) *1802, Patt, son of Thos GALOGHAN and Eliz Rose CUNNINGHAM *1803, Anne FLANAGHAN of Patt and Mary sp: Patt LERENO?(sp) and Anne BIGGY *Nobber Baptisms: 1854, Michael, son of ? McCABE and Catherine McDERMOT, his wife. godfather Owen CAHIL *1803: Sept. 17, Nich(ael?): GEOGHN of PATT and Bridy. Sponsors: Thos HIKEY and Mary KOER *1804, April 2nd, Patt BIGGY of Frank and Mary . Sponsors: Wm CLIFFORD and Judith FARNIN *1809, March 15, Nobber, Ann, daugheter to Thos DOWDALL and Mary QUIN. Sponsors: Matthew and Mary CAROLAN. *March 24, 1809, Nobber, John, son to James SMYTH and Bridget MURRAY. Sponsors: James CLARK and Bridget GIBNEY. *1810, Prospect, Baptized Frank O. to Thos and Judy BYRNE. Sponsor: Thos SMYTH and Ann ANDREW *1810, College, Oct. 13, Baptized Michael, son to Peter and Peggy GAHOGAN. Sponsors: Patt CLARK and Rose GAHOGAN *May 31, 1765, Died: Thomas FLOOD and buried in Killbarry That's all Folks! I researched this film from 11:00 AM to 4:30 PM. I did not find a trace of John HEENEY (c. 1800) or Ann KEEGAN (c. 1820) - both Roman Catholics. If anyone runs across these names I would be very interested. I hope I found something for somebody! Diane Shaw St. Louis, MO

Does anyone have any info about William SOMERVILLE, family from Somerville House in Meath. Brother to Sir James Quaile Somerville. William married Elizabeth Munroe. They had one son Captain WIlliam SOMERVILLE, don't know of any daughters. Any links appreciated. Thank you, Wendy

If anyone comes across members of these families--especially if married to one another--I would appreciate any information you can provide. Some of the Gossins at least came from Stamullin and possibly from Kilmoon Parish. They were Catholic. Seven Gossins emigrated together in the 1820's and probably landed first in Canada and then just walked across the border. Five of them appear on the 1830 census in Utica, where they are reputed to have worked on the Erie Canal. My great-great-grandfather, Patrick Gossin, married Catherine Hart, whether in Ireland or in New York I do not know. Thanks. Nancy Gray

I have 27 surnames for the lookups. That is all I can handle! I made a list of the surnames so that anyone on the list who wants to use it as a surname list can do so. It is here: http://members.gtw.net/~seamus/Navansurnamelist.htm I plan to take the list with me and if I see any of the surnames, I will make notes so that a researcher can request a copy from LDS. Diane St. Louis, MO

Could you please look up the surname WALSH. James Walsh was born ca 1806 -1817. Parents were Robert WALSH and Alice CLARK and any other siblings that may pop up, Thanking you Judy Walsh, NW Vic, Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 1:41 PM Subject: [MEATH] Re: IRL-MEATH-D Digest V03 #40 > Does this list have a surname list? I will be looking at an LDS > microfilm of Navan Baptisms and if there was a surname list that > indicated who is from Navan, I would look for the names. Anyone who > wants me to look for their surname in LDS microfilm 0926179, Parochial > registers of Nobber (Meath), 1754-1866 > <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?di splay=titledetails&titleno=190974&disp=Parochial_registers_of_Nobber_%28Meat h%29,_1> > Catholic Church. Parish of Nobber (Meath) should put the surname, first > name and event and approximate year they want and I will do the lookups > in the order in which the requests arrive on the list. I will look up > approximately ten surnames. > > Diane Shaw > St. Louis, MO > > > ==== IRL-MEATH Mailing List ==== > In your search for records, keep in mind that in old Ireland, borders for provinces, baronies, counties, archdiocese, diocese and townlands moved with swings of the battle axe. Check nearby places for records. >

---- Original Message ----- From: "Merle Farrington" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [MEATH] Re: IRL-MEATH-D Digest V03 #44 Thank you for the information, Bryan. I have no information on Ann Gibney, my gr grandmother, other than she was from Co. Meath according to the US Federal Census. Please give me an addess in Oldcastle where I could write for information. Merle Ann Kenner, Louisiana ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Have you looked here Merle? http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Cottage/1358/irishbirths/irish001.html Bye Bry

Hi Dorothy: I'm looking for a MELIA or O'MELIA family from Johnstown, Navan, Co. Meath: Patrick O'MELIA m. Julia MULVANEY. They had a daughter, Catherine, b. 10 February 1810 in The Furze or Yellow Furze, Navan, and died 29 August 1895 in Martinsburg, WV. Catherine O'MELIA m. Christopher MONTAGUE of Johnstown in 1830. He was b. 25 December 1800 in Johnstown and d. 20 Feburary 1874 in Martinsburg, WV Does any of this connect with your family? Mary Jean

FINNEGAN BIGGIE /BEGGE Thanks so much, Gail

Many thanks, Bryan. I read the URL for geocities/Hartland Cottage but I do not see a connection with the Ann I am serching for. The years and city do not match. My Ann Gibney was in the 1870 + Federal census for New Orleans, Louisiana. She died there in 1902. Lived for years with my grandfather Michael J. Fitzpatrick (her son-in-law). Thank you again for "reaching out" to help me. Merle Ann Kenner, Louisiana

Thanks Elayne, I already have a lot of U.S. information, including most of the references you listed , and I know she was married in 1852 to Arthur James Grover in London, England. I have a copy of a baptismal certificate with the name "Anne Coyle" listing her parents as Bridget McCabe and Thomas Coyle. It gives her birthdate as 1832, but the obituary I have gives a birthdate of 1834. In all probability this is the correct person, but I am trying for more verification. What I am looking for is information relating to her (and my) ancestors in County Meath specifically and in Ireland generally. > -----Original Message----- > From: Charles & Elayne Roberts [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 9:45 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MEATH] Coyle > > > Mark, you might try working from the most recent event in her > life and working back. You might try to find an obituary, or > a citizenship application, or census records here in the > United States. The 1880 census is available on-line at > lds.org and is available to everyone You might also try > census records before and after that date. However, the 1890 > census was almost completely destroyed by a fire. Most > Family History Centers would have a microfilm copy of the > census available by ordering from the main Family History > Center in Salt Lake City for a nominal fee. There is a list > of Family History Centers available at lds.org also. They > are open to the public. Also, a marrage record may or may > not tell you something. > I hope this will be of some help to you. Elayne Roberts

Thank you for the information, Bryan. I have no information on Ann Gibney, my gr grandmother, other than she was from Co. Meath according to the US Federal Census. Please give me an addess in Oldcastle where I could write for information. Merle Ann Kenner, Louisiana