This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AnnetteCode Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8717.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Census Substitute: 1823-1837 www.genealogy.nationalarchives.ie 144 Barretts - 0 Edward Census Substitute: Griffith Valuation 1855 www.askaboutireland.ie Barretts in Kilcommon 463, Kilmore 92. No Edward in either. There are 5 Thomas in Kilmore, 5 in Kilcommon There are 2 Richard's in Kilmore and 6 in Kilcommon Usually oldest son name after father or grandfather Co. Mayo has birth and baptism records on an Irish History Foundation website and like most of Ireland you need to pay www.rootsireland.ie RC Kilmore Erris records 1859-1900 RC Kilcommon Erris records 1883 marriages 1843 CofI Belmutt (a Poor Law Union for Kilcommon) records 1877 Methodist Ballina (PLU for Kilmore) records 1838 Hopefully you can search with father Thomas, I would use Richard as the starter, not so common as Thomas. John was a much used name and might give you too many choices. Celia might be OK but I would go with Richard. Once you have Richard you will know the Parish/Place and mother's name and maiden name. With mother's name you can search for marriage record which was probably about 20 years 1845. Civil Registration began in 1864 and you might find one of the children there? you can also find deaths after 1864 www.familysearch.org most of the records I found were too late if moved to US in the 1860's so here are some examples: Richard Barret 2 born in 1866 Cisly born 26 Aug 1869 Binghamstyown, Mayo Parents: Thomas Barrett, and Sabina Crane Celia born Jan 1867 - no parents listed Celia died 1865 Ballina age 70 estimated year born based on age given at death (1795) (this might be a gr.grandmother who Thomas possibily named his daughter after!) There are just too many children born named John: These are some of the women who had sons name John and father Thomas: Catherine McHale, Liby Murray, Mary Basquill, Julia Day..... Annette Code Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.