I just received this website of the Down Survey of Ireland post Cromwell. Some of the Baronys D/T burning are no longer available but was done so land could be removed from the Irish Catholics and given to Cromwell's soldiers, etc. In Mayo, the barony of Murrisk and Burishoole no longer exist but if one is familiar with the area their ancestors originated, they still can see how it would have appeared, just not as detailed. It just came out. Family in Ireland had difficulty gaining access yesterday. I had no trouble this morning. Enjoy!! http://downsurvey.tcd.ie/
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: PatBrooks1961 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8720.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Again, I owe you for the detailed information. I was able to locate Crossboyne Parish on Google Earth - it was fascinating to see where my family (probably) once lived. As I'm not currently subscribed to Ancestry, I can only communicate with you through this board - I apologise for that. For the same financial reasons, I can't purchase the tokens needed to obtain the parish records at this time, but rest assured I've kept all the information and I will pursue the leads you've furnished as soon as I possibly can. As for Martin Melican's death certificate, I'll attach a copy to this correspondence. Mary is listed as having provided the information but, as you say, the actual spelling may have been someone's phonetic transcription of what she told them. As you can see, the surname was spelled Melligan here, and I have documents also with the spelling as Milligan and Milligen. I've also put out feelers, as it were, on the Mayo Genealogy Group page on Facebook. If you are on Facebook, it would be very interesting to communicate with you through there. Thank you again, Dave, I appreciate your help more than I can say! Pat Brooks Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DaveBoylan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8720.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello PatBrooks1961, Many thanks for your kind reply, which I look at as payment in full. I too had wondered why there was not a baptism record for Mary Cleary. It may be that the Crossboyne & Tagheen Catholic registers are difficult to read in places, or portions have been damaged over the years. Or it may be that the IFHF has not yet transcribed all the parish registers to date. If you can, order the Crossboyne & Tagheen registers from the Family History Center, on microfilm number 1279211, so that you can have a look. Perhaps you may find other information about the Cleary family that the IFHF had missed. Concerning Martin Melican's mother Kate Hapnick, I can think of one surname this may pertain to, though of course I could be wrong about it. The name is Hapney (pronounced Hayp-nee), which is a derivation of Halfpenny. Again, this is only a guess and I could be wrong about what Kate's maiden name could have been. Do you know for sure if Mary Cleary filled out the death record for Martin, or was it the local registrar or doctor who wrote down the information? If the registrar or doctor, Mary may have told them what Kate's maiden name was, but they (the registrar or doctor), unaccustomed to Mary's particular Irish accent, may have heard the name as "Hapnick." Also, do you know if Martin Melican had any brothers or sisters who also came to the United States? If so, try to find their individual death records, as their death records may also mention who their father and mother were, and where they were from in Ireland. In addition, the birth or death records of any children of Martin's brothers of sisters may also tell you at least where in Ireland your particular branch of the Melican family came from. While Griffiths Valuation only shows one entry for a Martin Melican, this surname with this spelling was most numerous in County Clare, which means it's possible that Martin was from County Clare rather than from County Waterford. Griffiths Valuation also shows one instance of the surname in County Antrim, and one instance in County Tyrone. See below for the Griffiths Valuation index for the surname Melican: Occupier Surname, Occupier Forename, County, Parish MELICAN ROBERT ANTRIM KIRKINRIOLA MELICAN PATRICK CLARE KILLADYSERT MELICAN SINON CLARE KILLADYSERT MELICAN PATRICK CLARE KILLADYSERT MELICAN PATRICK CLARE KILMIHIL MELICAN PATRICK CLARE KILMIHIL MELICAN DENIS CLARE KILMIHIL MELICAN PATRICK CLARE MOYARTA MELICAN PATRICK CLARE MOYARTA MELICAN JOHN CLARE KILRUSH MELICAN JOHN CLARE KILFINTINAN MELICAN JOHN CLARE KILFINTINAN MELICAN MARGARET TYRONE DESERTCREAT MELICAN MARTIN WATERFORD MOTHEL MELICAN MARY WATERFORD MOTHEL ____ One of the variant spellings of the surname is Meligan, which is also found in Griffiths Valuation, but less frequently than Melican. This spelling of the surname is found in Cork, Down, as well as Waterford: Occupier Surname, Occupier Forename, County, Parish MELIGAN CORNELIUS CORK INISHANNON MELIGAN THOMAS CORK KINURE MELIGAN FRANCIS DOWN DROMARA MELIGAN THOMAS WATERFORD KILWATERMOY MELIGAN JOHN WATERFORD SESKINAN ____ Other spellings for the surname are Mellican, Melligan, Melligan. Please see below: Occupier Surname, Occupier Forename, County, Parish MELLICAN JOHN CLARE DRUMCLIFF MELLICAN HENRY LONDONDERRY MAGHERA MELLICAN HENRY LONDONDERRY MAGHERA MELLICAN WILLIAM LONDONDERRY KILCRONAGHAN AND MELLIGAN WILLIAM ANTRIM CONNOR MELLIGAN JAMES ANTRIM ANTRIM MELLIGAN JAMES ANTRIM ANTRIM MELLIGAN JAMES ANTRIM ANTRIM MELLIGAN SAMUEL ANTRIM DONEGORE MELLIGAN MARY GALWAY LICKMOLASSY MELLIGAN JOSEPH LONDONDERRY LISSAN MELLIGAN JANE LONDONDERRY DESERTLYN MELLIGAN JOHN SLIGO ST JOHN MELLIGAN JAMES WATERFORD LISMORE & MOCOLLOP MELLIGAN WILLIAM WATERFORD LISMORE & MOCOLLOP MELLIGAN LAURENCE WATERFORD LISMORE & MOCOLLOP MELLIGAN MARY WATERFORD LISMORE & MOCOLLOP MELLIGAN MARY WATERFORD LISMORE & MOCOLLOP MELLIGAN MARY WATERFORD LISMORE & MOCOLLOP MELLIGAN JAMES DONEGAL INVER ____ The most common for the spelling of the surname that I found however, was Milligan. There are several pages of this spelling of the surname, too many to list here. None of those with the Milligan surname, unfortunately, has the first name of Martin. As noted in the first reply Griffiths Valuation was enumerated in the 32 counties of Ireland between 1847 and 1864. But, there was an earlier property tax enumeration conducted in Ireland between the years 1823 and 1837. This enumeration has come to be known as the Tithe Applotment Books. You can learn more about the Tithe Applotment Books at the National Archives of Ireland website link at: http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/home.jsp You access the indexes as well as copies of the original Tithe records for free from the above mentioned National Archives website link. In searching the Tithe Applotment Books, I found two entries for a Martin Melican, both recorded in the townland of Cloonreddan, Civil parish of Kilmacduane, County Clare, in the year 1825. Both entries pertain to the same Martin Melican. You can view the index at: http://tinyurl.com/c4v4y65 You can also view a copy of the original hand-written Tithe Applotment Book entry for Martin Melican. Though listed twice in the index, Martin is only listed once on the Tithe's page, which is page 11. Please see: http://tinyurl.com/bmv6z8v If in your further research you uncover anything new about your Cleary and Melican ancestors, I would very much appreciate learning what you have found. Best Wishes, and once again thank you for your generous reply. It is very much appreciated Kind Regards, Dave Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: PatBrooks1961 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8720.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Mr. Boylan~~ How can I possibly thank you for the research you've put into my query? !!!!! This information means more to me than you can possibly know - I have been intrigued about my Gr. Grandmother's parentage since my early teens and it was my interest in her heritage that spurred my lifelong passion for genealogy. That you went through the trouble to conduct such extensive research free of charge is incredible and I owe you tremendously!! I have little doubt that the the Bridget and Patrick you found are, indeed, my Mary's parents - I know we cannot be absolutely certain but they are, by far, the most likely candidates. I am at a loss as to why Mary's baptism wasn't listed, and it occurred to me that, because they were Catholic and Catholics have several baptismal names, Margaret could actually have been Mary, except that would have made her considerably older than I thought. The only documentation I have of her age, though, if from censuses, and we all know how inaccurate th! ey are regarding age & spelling. As far as Martin Melican, I will have to look further, as he may, indeed, have been from Waterford. The family story is that Mary and Martin met on the ship to America, so they need not have been from the same area in Ireland. It was also commonly believed in the family that he was Scottish, although censuses list his nation of birth as Ireland. The maiden name of his mother, Hapnick, was taken from his death certificate, which was filled out by Mary, his widow, and there is no way to know how accurate that was. Can you think of any surname resembling Hapnick that she may have mistaken it for? Is there anything - anything! - that I can do to repay you for the information you've given?? Thank you again, very very much!! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DaveBoylan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8720.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello PatBrooks1961, I located the marriage index for a Patrick Cleary and Bridget Flannery at the Irish Family History Foundation (IFHF) website for County Mayo, showing the couple were married in the Crossboyne & Tagheen Roman Catholic Church in 1838. This index could possible refer to the marriage of your Mary Cleary's parents. The index is below: 1 match for the search criteria: Cleary Patrick 1838 Parish: CROSSBOYNE & TAGHEEN RC PARISH (RC) Record Type: Marriage Records for Co. Mayo Surname: Cleary First Name: Patrick Spouse's Surname: Flannery Spouse's First Name: Bridget Father's Surname: Father's First Name: Mother's Surname: Mother's First Name: Year: 1838 Parish/District: Parish: CROSSBOYNE & TAGHEEN RC PARISH (RC) ____ The IFHF homepage can be found at: http://www.rootsireland.ie/ Before accessing indexes at the IFHF you'll first have to register. Registration is free. You'll also be able to access the marriage index for Patrick and Bridget that I did for free, but you will be charged to obtain a transcription of the record from the IFHF. You'll have to purchase credits with a credit card to obtain the transcription. The IFHF website has more information about purchasing credits for baptism, as well as birth, marriage, and death or burial transcriptions at: http://www.rootsireland.ie/index.php?id=78 One big advantage of ordering records from the IFHF is that as soon as credit card information is processed, the record is sent to your computer, so that you don't have to wait very long to view it. Next I looked for, but unfortunately did not find a baptism index for Mary Cleary at the IFHF website, but did uncover the baptism indexes for two more children of Patrick and Bridget. These baptisms are for Margaret Cleary (1841); and Patrick Cleary (1853). In the heading for Margaret's baptism you'll see in parenthesis "plus variants." This means that one of the surnames in the transcription will likely be spelled a little differently than it is spelled in the index. For example, the transcription may have Patrick's surname spelled as Clary, or Bridget's maiden name spelled as Flanery or maybe Flannry. You'll also notice that in both the baptism indexes below, Patrick's surname of Cleary is not present. This is because it is likely that the original baptism records for the two children didn't include his surname either, as it would have been understood that his surname, like his children's surnames, was also Cleary. The baptism indexes follow: 1 match for the search criteria: Cleary (plus variants) Margaret 1841 Parish: CROSSBOYNE & TAGHEEN RC PARISH (RC) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Mayo Surname: Cleary First Name: Margaret Father's Surname: Father's First Name: Patrick Mother's Surname: Flannery Mother's First Name: Bridget Year: 1841 Parish/District: CROSSBOYNE & TAGHEEN RC PARISH (RC) ____ 1 match for the search criteria: Cleary Patrick 1853 Parish: CROSSBOYNE & TAGHEEN RC PARISH (RC) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Mayo Surname: Cleary First Name: Patrick Father's Surname: Father's First Name: Patrick Mother's Surname: Flannery Mother's First Name: Bridget Year: 1853 Parish/District: CROSSBOYNE & TAGHEEN RC PARISH (RC) ____ Information at the IFHF website shows that the Crossboyne & Tagheen Catholic parish baptisms commence in the year 1825, while marriages for the parish begin in 1791. This means that if Patrick Cleary and Bridget Flannery were born in the parish, there will likely not be baptisms for them, as they would have been born and baptized before the Crossboyne & Tagheen parish registers for the church begin. To view a Catholic Parish map for County Mayo, go to the Irish Times website link at: http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/browse/counties/rcmaps/mayorc.htm I had a difficult time in locating the Catholic parish of Crossboyne & Tagheen on this map. The name of theparish on the map is spelled "Crossboyne & Taugheen." But this parish is situated in the lower right portion of the map, on the border with County Galway and County Roscommon. To the right of the parish of Crossboyne & Taugheen are the parishes of Kilcolman and Kilvine. To the left of Crossboyne & Taugheen is the parish of Kilcommon & Robeen. Just above Crossboyne & Taugheen is the Catholic parish of Mayo Abbey. The Catholic parish of Crossboyne & Tagheen/Taugheen was located in the Civil Parish of Crossboyne. Knowing this, I wanted to see if I could find Patrick Cleary in an Irish property tax record known as Griffiths Valuation. I didn't know if Patrick and his family had lived in Crossboyne, or perhaps in a nearby townland. I was hoping I would find out if I could locate Patrick in Griffiths Valuation. Griffiths Valuation, was enumerated in the 32 counties of Ireland between 1847 and 1864. The valuation for Civil Parish of Crossboyne, County Mayo, was completed by the year 1856. Unlike a census, Griffiths Valuation did not enumerate family members. Those named in the valuation were the people who leased property. Each person who paid to lease the property was called an "Occupier." The other person listed in Griffiths Valuation was the person who owned the property, or who worked as the middleman for the owner. This person was called the "Immediate Lessor." You can access Griffiths Valuation transcriptions and original copies for free at the askaboutireland website link at: http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml I found a Patrick Cleary in Griffiths Valuation living in the townland of Curraghadooey, Civil Parish of Crossboyne, County Mayo. This entry for Patrick may refer to your Mary Clear's father. A transcription of Griffiths Valuation for Patrick Cleary is below: No. and Letters of Reference to Map: 13a Civil Parish: Crossboyne Townland: Curraghadooey Occupier: Patrick Cleary Immediate Lessor: George Vasey Description of Tenement: Land, house, and offices Area of Land: 16 Acres, 1 Rood, 39 Perches: Rateable Annual Valuation of Land: 6 Pounds, 15 Shillings Rateable Annual Valuation of Buildings: 10 Shillings Total Annual Valuation of Rateable Property: 7 Pounds, 5 Shillings ____ Griffiths Valuation shows that Patrick Cleary leased over 16 acres of land, a house, and "offices," from an Immediate Lessor" name George Vasey. Because he leased several acres of land, you can surmise that Patrick was a farmer. The land was valued at 6 Pounds and 15 Shillings, while the house and offices were valued at 10 Shillings. The total valuation for Patrick's lease was 7 Pounds and 5 Shillings. He would have paid a percentage of this value toward the tax. An "office" in a Griffiths Valuation record could be any type of outbuilding, such as a barn, stable, blacksmith shop, etc. The map number at the top of the valuation entry (13a), refers to the location of Patrick's lease in Curraghadooey on an Ordnance Survey map from the time period. You can access this map from the index for Patrick Cleary at the Ask About Ireland website link. The Ordnance Survey Map is superimposed over a modern day map, so that you can compare the two maps. To view a Google Map of Crossboyne, go to: http://tinyurl.com/c8225gz On the map you'll see the letter A pointing to Crossboyne. On the upper right of the page, off the map, you'll see a prompt called "Directions," highlighted in blue. Click on Directions and a drop-down box labeled A will appear. In the A box type in Curraghadooey, Mayo, Ireland, and then click on "Get Directions." The next map that appears shows that the distance from Crossboyne to Curraghadooey, depending on the route taken, is 3.5 kilometers to 4 kilometers. This equals 2.2 to 2.5 miles. I found a description of Crossboyne from the 1837 edition of Lewis's Topographical Dictionary of Ireland. You can access the Topographical Dictionary for free from the Library Ireland website link at: http://www.libraryireland.com/topog/index.php This description from the Topographical Dictionary was written a year before Patrick Cleary and Bridget Flannery were married. The description follows: CROSSBOYNE, a parish, in the barony of CLANMORRIS, county of MAYO, and province of CONNAUGHT, 2 miles (S. E.) from Claremorris, on the road to Tuam; containing 5765 inhabitants. This parish comprises 9277 statute acres, as applotted under the tithe act, and valued at £6058 per annum. The land is good, and agriculture is gradually improving on the lands of the gentry, although modern implements are not generally adopted by the farmers; there is plenty of bog for fuel, and limestone is also found here. The surrounding scenery is richly diversified with wood and water; there are several delightful demesnes, of which the principal are Castlemagarett, the seat of Lord Oranmore, situated in a noble domain enriched with excellent timber; Brookhill, the residence of J. Lambert, Esq.; Farm-hill, of E. D. Gonne Bell, Esq.; Prospect, of F. Crean, Esq.; and the residence of the Rev. W. Crofton, rector. The village of Ballindine, or Ballindangan, in this parish, is described under its ow! n head. The living is a vicarage, in the diocese of Tuam, and in the patronage of the Archbishop; the rectory is partly appropriate to the dean of Tuam and the prebendary of Killabegs in the cathedral of Tuam, and partly impropriate in S. Lindsey Bucknall, Esq. The tithes amount to £307. 1. 5 œ., of which £62. 6. 1 œ. is payable to the impropriator, £209. 18. 4 Ÿ. to the incumbent, and the remainder to the dean and prebendary. The glebe-house was erected by aid of a gift of £100, and a loan of £300, in 1822, from the late Board of First Fruits: the glebe comprises four acres. The church is a plain old building with a chancel and a new tower, which was erected by aid of a loan of £350 in 1819, from the same Board; the Ecclesiastical Commissioners have recently granted £268 for its repair. In the R. C. divisions this parish is the head of two unions or districts, called Crossboyne and Ballindangan; the former comprises part of the parish of Crossboyne and the entire of that of Taugheen, and contains three chapels, one of which is a large slated building at Crossboyne; in the Ballindangan district are two chapels, one in the village of that name, and the other at Drymills. Lord Oranmore gives £10 per ann. towards the support of a grammar school; and his lady has a school at Ballindangan, towards which she allows £15 per annum, where the children are taught needlework and the manufacture of straw-plat. The Rev. Mr. Crofton also supports a school in connection with the Tuam Diocesan Society. The old fortress of Castlemagarrett is in ruins; in the demesne of Brookhill are several Druidical or Danish remains, and a choice collection of plants. In Crossboyne churchyard there are many ancient monuments of a rude character; and near Prospect House is a chalybeate spri! ng, the water of which is valuable as a tonic. ____ I can't be 100 percent sure that the IFHF indexes refer to your Cleary and Flannery ancestors, or that the Griffiths Valuation entry refers to your Patrick Cleary, but there is the possibility that they do. If you come to the conclusion that your Cleary and Flannery ancestors are from Curraghadooey, Crossboyne, County Mayo, you can view the existing parish registers for Crossboyne & Tagheen, as the Latter Day Saints (LDS), have filmed these registers. Below is information and microfilm number for the Crossboyne & Taugheen Catholic Parish registers: Parochial registers of Crossboyne and Tagheen , 1791-1913. Authors: Catholic Church. Parish of Crossboyne and Tagheen (Mayo) (Main Author) Format: Manuscript/Manuscript on Film Language: English Publication: Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1984 Physical: on 1 microfilm reel ; 16 mm. References: (Has supplement) Crossboyne & Tagheen Parish baptisms Notes: Microfilm of original records at Tuam, Co. Galway. Some writing is faded and illegible. The Catholic parish of Crossboyne includes part of the civil parish of Crossboyne and all of the civil parish of Tagheen. There are three chapels. Parochial registers, baptisms, 1825-1913; marriages, 1791-1876. Family History Library BRITISH Film 1279211 Items 5 - 8 ____ The Crossboyne & Tagheen Catholic registers of baptisms and marriages can be found on LDS microfilm number 1279211. You can order this film from your local Family History Center. Or, if you don't have a Family History Center nearby, check with your local public library, as some public libraries accept LDS films. Next I wanted to see if any Flannerys were living in the Civil Parish of Crossboyne. I located three Flannerys in the parish. Two of these were Luke Flannery and John Flannery, leasing property in the townland of Ballyglass. The third Flannery was Michael, who leased property in the townland of Woodstock. The Griffiths Valuation entry for Luke Flannery below shows he leased over 30 acres of land in common with three other men in Ballyglass. These men were Martin Hannon, Christopher Hannon, and William Kenna. The Immediate Lessor was Charles Blake. The valuation for Luke's portion of the land, at Map Reference No. 9d, was 3 Pounds and 14 Shillings. Luke's house was valued at 2 Shillings. His total valuation for the house and his section of the land came to 3 Pounds and 16 Shillings. Luke would not have paid a tax on this property as only those properties valued over 5 Pounds were taxed. The valuation for Luke Flannery is below: No. and Letters of Reference to Map: 9d Civil Parish: Crossboyne Townland: Ballyglass Occupiers: Martin Hannon, Christopher Hannon, William Kenna, Luke Flannery Immediate Lessor: Charles Blake Description of Tenement: Land and house Area of Land: 30 Acres, 3 Roods, 5 Perches Rateable Annual Valuation of Land for Luke Flannery: 3 Pounds, 14 Shillings Rateable Annual Valuation of Buildings: 2 Shillings Total Annual Valuation of Rateable Property: 3 Pounds, 16 Shillings ____ Griffiths Valuation also shows that at Map Reference No. 10a, John Flannery and Miles Hannon leased in common over 18 acres of land from Charkes Blake. John's portion of the land was valued at 4 Pounds and 15 Shillings, while his house and "offices were valued at 5 Shillings. His total valuation was 5 Pounds: No. and Letters of Reference to Map: 10a Civil Parish: Crossboyne Townland: Ballyglass Occupiers: John Flannery, Miles Hannon Immediate Lessor: Charles Blake Description of Tenement: Land, house, & offices Area of Land: 18 Acres, 3 Roods, 8 Perches Rateable Annual Valuation of Land for John Flannery: 4 Pounds, 15 Shillings Rateable Annual Valuation of Buildings: 5 Shillings Total Annual Valuation of Rateable Property: 5 Pounds ____ Below is the Griffiths Valuation entry for Michael Flannery, who leased property from Dominick E. Browne in the townland of Woodstock (at Map Reference No. 13a), Civil Parish of Crossboyne. Michael leased over 6 acres of land valued at 3 Pounds and 3 Shillings, while his house was valued at 5 Shillings. The total valuation for Michael Flannery's lease was 3 Pounds and 8 Shillings No. and Letters of Reference to Map: 13a Civil Parish: Crossboyne Townland: Woodstock Occupier: Michael Flannery Immediate Lessor: Dominick E. Browne Description of Tenement: Land and house Area of Land: 6 Acres, 1 Rood, 7 Perches, Rateable Annual Valuation of Land: 3 Pounds, 3 Shillings Rateable Annual Valuation of Buildings: 5 Shillings Total Annual Valuation of Rateable Property: 3 Pounds, 8 Shillings ____ Luke, John, and Michael Flannery may have been related to John Cleary's wife Bridget. One of the Flannerys may have been Bridget's father. MARTIN MELICAN Next I looked for the baptism index for a Martin Melican (and variant surname spellings), son of Martin Melican and Kate/Catherine Hapnick, but didn't find it at the IFHF website for any of the member counties. I located only one Martin Melican in Griffiths Valuation, leasing property in the townland of Curraghphilipeen, Civil Parish of Mothel, County Waterford. The valuation was completed by the year 1850. A transcription of the Griffiths Valuation entry for Martin Melican, from the Ask About Ireland website link, is below: No. and Letters of Reference to Map: 1 Civil Parish: Mothel Townland: Curraghphilipeen Occupier: Martin Melican Immediate Lessor: Earl of Huntingdon Description of Tenement: House, offices, & land Area of Land: 53 Acres, 2 Roods, 18 Perches: Rateable Annual Valuation of Land: 36 Pounds, 10 Shillings Rateable Annual Valuation of Buildings: 4 Pounds, 10 Shillings Total Annual Valuation of Rateable Property: 41 Pounds ____ Griffiths Valuation shows that Martin Melican leased over 53 acres of land from the Earl of Huntingdon in the townland of Curraghphilipeen. The land was valued at 36 Pounds and 10 Shillings. Martin's house and outbuildings were valued at 4 Pounds and 10 Shillings. The value of the buildings that Martin leased is an indication that his house may have been of considerable size. The total valuation for Martin Melican's property was 41 Pounds. This entry may refer to your Martin Melican's father, but it is impossible to prove that just from the Griffiths Valuation entry alone. A stronger case could be made that the Griffiths Valuation entry refers to your Martin's father if you discover that he came from County Waterford. I couldn't find any records in Ireland for the surname Hapnick. Are you sure that Hapnick was Kate Melican's maiden name? Best of luck with your research. Dave Boylan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
I realize this was originally posted to the message boards, but I do not respond to anonymous posters on the boards. Perhaps "ellenbohan_1" will see this on the list, nevertheless. The location desired is undoubtedly in Meath. The townland (and small town) of Carlanstown is located on the N 52 national road, three miles NNE of Kells town. The populated part of the townland of Emlagh is just a mile and a half ESE of Carlanstown. Pete - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts </HTML>
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ellenbohan_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8725.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The obit hint was a good one unfortunately townland/county references were not included in any of the obits. It would seem that the surviving brothers had worked on farms & have been hired out. I'm puzzled by the ship's entry Emblagh Carlangstown Co Mayo. Emblagh is most likely a typo for Emlagh. Can't decipher Carlangstown. Hoping for some suggestions from Co Mayo or Co Meath contributors. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DianeCulhane46 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8725.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: According to seanruad.com, there's an Emlagh townland in Kilgeever, Mayo, and in Emlagh, Meath. Lots of possible variants on Carlangstown. You might look for the family in the 1911 census, or see if the obits for Catherine and her American siblings mention where their Irish siblings lived. Diane Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: johnloughney1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8725.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Haven't heard of Carlangstown, but there is Carlanstown in Meath: https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Carlanstown&ie=UTF-8&ei=2PyLUfGyDsqWywGlg4G4CA&ved=0CAsQ_AUoAg Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ellenbohan_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8725/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Need some help with an entry on ship's passenger list. Found an entry for my gr-aunt Catherine Duffy returning from a visit to Ireland in October 1925. The Franconia's passenger list (image 44 line 12) gave Irish contact as her brother John Duffy, Emblagh, Carlangstown, Co Mayo. Catherine & John were originally from Co Meath; while Catherine and 3 other siblings settled in USA, John & 3 other siblings remained in Ireland but might have moved from Co Meath. Can't seem to find Emblagh, Carlangstown in Co Mayo - could the ship's crew have made a mistake? Any help and all suggestions welcomed - haven't been able to locate the siblings who remained in Ireland. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: nicola_meehan Surnames: O'Regan/Meehan/Noon Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/270.579/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Jim, I've just sent you an email on this as it appears we share the same distant ancestor (Fr. O'Regan, the 3rd Bishop of Chicago). My father is from Ballyhaunis and my great grandmother is Delia 'Bridget' Meehan (nee Regan). I have lots of information including maps and personal letters/correspondance from the O'Regans from Lavalleyroe and Ballyhaunis, and my family are still living in the area today. Please email me at nicola.meehan@hp.com to get more details and exchange information. Thanks, Nicola Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: TConroy73 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8723.2.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Here is a Ballindine record that may be one of your relatives: BIRTH 2 July 1875, NAME OF CHILD Bernard ,FATHER Edmond Kilkenny, MOTHER Honor Healy (?), PLACE OF BIRTH Cloonmore, DATE BIRTH REGISTERED 16 July 1875, FAMILY HISTORY LIBRARY MICROFILM # 255937 PG# 143 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Schwermann Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/116.225.1133.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Did Ellen/Helen have a daughter named Margaret? Born in Helmetta, NJ? She's my great grandmother & I've found a first name for her mother which is Helen. Margaret's father was James Molloy he married Catherine McLaughlin & sent Margaret & her brother James to live with her cousin Frank & Bridgette McLaughlin in 1900 to Providence, RI. Any of this ringing a bell? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: johnloughney1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/116.928.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Aideen, If you are still following this, let me know. I've been looking into more 'ancient' history, and Loftus / Loughney all come from the same Irish name, O'Lachtna - and I have compiled a good deal on this. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Thank you for this great old map..........I am so glad to have this! Barb L. -----Original Message----- From: dlculhane@cs.com Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 12:05 PM To: IRELAND-GENEALOGY-NEWBIES@rootsweb.com ; IRL-CAVAN@rootsweb.com ; IRL-CLARE@rootsweb.com ; IRL-MAYO@rootsweb.com ; IRL-MONAGHAN@rootsweb.com ; IRL-GALWAY@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-MAYO] Ireland1838 Map ireland1838.com has a great old map of Ireland, a product of the Ordance Surveys of the 1830s. You can click on one section to enlarge, then click on one area of that section to enlarge again and scroll around. It shows civil parishes, towns, mills, and churches, as well as roads, lakes, rivers, and mountains. Some of the town names have changed, but you should be able to navigate by comparing to a more modern map. Diane ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-MAYO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Schwermann Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/116.225.1133.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Idk if there's a connection. My great grandmother was Margaret Molloy born in Helmetta, NJ in 1889 her stepmother was Catherine McLaughlin she married James Molloy from Trenton, NJ or Dublin, Ireland..Margaret eventually lived as a boarder in Catherine's cousin Frank' home in Providence, RI..I'm looking for Margaret's mothers maiden name, her first name was Helen Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
ireland1838.com has a great old map of Ireland, a product of the Ordance Surveys of the 1830s. You can click on one section to enlarge, then click on one area of that section to enlarge again and scroll around. It shows civil parishes, towns, mills, and churches, as well as roads, lakes, rivers, and mountains. Some of the town names have changed, but you should be able to navigate by comparing to a more modern map. Diane
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pdunn56 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/1710.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Additional info just obtained on death certificate of Anna McDonnell McAndrew. Her parent's names were Patrick McDonnell and Mary Walsh both born in Ireland possibly around Ballycastle area of Mayo Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
We have added men who joined the Constabulary in 1857. The FULL info is at: http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/mayo/military/ric-mayo-1857.txt The names are: BARRETT, Michael BLAKE, John H. F. BOURKE, Luke BOURKE, Thomas BURNS, Robert J. BYRNE, Thomas CAROLAN, Patrick CONNELL, Anthony CONNOLLY, Michael CREAN, Thomas CUNNANE, Henry DEACY, Luke DONNELLY John DORESS, Patrick DWYER, Charles FALLEN, Richard FLANAGAN, John FORD, Patrick FOX, Edward FUREY, William GALLAGHER, Thomas GERAGHTY, James GIBBONS, James GIBBONS, Richard GRIMES, James HAWKSHAW, Andrew HENRY, Peter HESTON, Darby HOBAN, Charles HUGHES, James IRWIN, James JENNINGS, Thomas KENNEDY, James LOFTUS, John McANDREW, Patrick McEVILY, Edward McGREAL, James McNABB, John McNALLY, John McNULTY, Joseph MEALLEY, James MONCTON, Thos MULLANY, Michael MURPHY, Thomas ORMSBY, Robert REILLY, John ROE, William RUTLEDGE, Robert RYDER, Robert SAY, Daniel, J TAYLOR, Richard WALSH, Michael WEST, John WHYTE, James Thanks, Christina http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: johnloughney1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8722/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi all, Just a friendly note that I'm currently administering Kilcummin, Kilfian, Lackan & Rathreagh parishes on Ireland Reaching out: http://www.irelandxo.com/ - feel free to visit there, or if you post queries with any of the parishes in the subject line, I'll try my best to help out. John Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.