This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: candaroe173 Surnames: gaughan Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/689.1352/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I any info on the Gaughan families of kilgellia attymass mayo In the 1901 census i have thomas 60yrs wife ann nee neary 50 yrs patrick 17 ? went to usa john 14 remained at home same as bridget 12 who married an igoe micheal my father 7 also two sisters of thomas bridget 70 and ann 55 would appreciate any help in tracing info on thomas's parents and ann his wife;s parents many thanks ann roe Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Hi Lorraine, Dates would be very helpful. When was Nora born? When did she marry Michael Flaherty? What's the name of the town or townland where Michael was born? When was he born? Any parents names? Did Nora marry in Ireland or the US? Do you have her parents names from her US records? Oceanstrands --- On Mon, 6/16/08, Lorraine Conroy <timlorr@embarqmail.com> wrote: > From: Lorraine Conroy <timlorr@embarqmail.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-MAYO] Ford, Forde > To: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com, irl-mayo@rootsweb.com > Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 4:57 AM > I have been trying to find anyone that has Ford/e from > Annaghdown, Galway on > the Corrib river. I know that she has others in her family > as I found a > women in Queens, NY who's gg grandmother is her sister. > Due to my systems > crashing, I have lost her address. I believe the sister was > Bridget. > My Nora Ford/e married Michael Flaherty from Mayo. Village > also on the River > Corrib > Anyone that can add to this would love to hear from them > Lorraine Conroy > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-mayo-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-mayo-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of gc-gateway@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 10:03 AM > To: IRL-MAYO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-MAYO] Ford, Forde > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this > mailing list. > > Author: originsgenealogyproject > Surnames: Ford, Forde > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/689.1351 > .1.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Amy, > I don't know of any siblings to Mary Ford(e) [I'd > be surprised if she were > an only child] but I also don't have any documentation > on her. Knowledge of > her was passed down in the family oral tradition but I > don't even know what > town she was born in. Hopefully time will tell. > > Joe
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ShanachieALP Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/689.1351.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for your reply, Joe. Good luck in your own research. Amy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: originsgenealogyproject Surnames: Ford, Forde Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/689.1351.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Amy, I don't know of any siblings to Mary Ford(e) [I'd be surprised if she were an only child] but I also don't have any documentation on her. Knowledge of her was passed down in the family oral tradition but I don't even know what town she was born in. Hopefully time will tell. Joe Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
I have been trying to find anyone that has Ford/e from Annaghdown, Galway on the Corrib river. I know that she has others in her family as I found a women in Queens, NY who's gg grandmother is her sister. Due to my systems crashing, I have lost her address. I believe the sister was Bridget. My Nora Ford/e married Michael Flaherty from Mayo. Village also on the River Corrib Anyone that can add to this would love to hear from them Lorraine Conroy -----Original Message----- From: irl-mayo-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-mayo-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gc-gateway@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 10:03 AM To: IRL-MAYO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-MAYO] Ford, Forde This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: originsgenealogyproject Surnames: Ford, Forde Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/689.1351 .1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Amy, I don't know of any siblings to Mary Ford(e) [I'd be surprised if she were an only child] but I also don't have any documentation on her. Knowledge of her was passed down in the family oral tradition but I don't even know what town she was born in. Hopefully time will tell. Joe Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-MAYO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1505 - Release Date: 6/16/2008 7:20 AM
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ShanachieALP Surnames: Ford, Forde Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/689.1351.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Joe - do you have any information on any brothers that Mary Ford(e) may have had? That line has been a dead-end for me, and I've found other Fordes in Castlebar that may (or may not) be connected to my Anna and Susan Forde. Still trying to make the link. Thanks - Amy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: patrickfinnerty Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/3068.4.1.3.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Gerry I would love to hear more. This is part of my family tree. Mary Hope 1832-1914 was my great great great grandmother and was the mother of Bridget Mulrooney, twice married, she married Robert Shaw in 1878 and Mary Mulrooney married Patrick Shaw in 1888. They were indeed 2 brothers. Bridget and Robert were my gg grandparents. I have some info on Catherine and knew she married George Dwyer. Didnt they have a girl Mary Teresa, whom I believe was living with her grandmother Mary (nee Hope) Mulrooney in 1911 in Bunree. I only knew about the 2 girls as they appear with Catherine in the 1901 census but George was not at home at this time. I have more info on the Mulrooney line if you would like to share. Please contact me directly on pjfinnuk@yahoo.co.uk. At the moment i´m without internet but do check my email daily, only saw your post today as I came to browse rootsweb. I Look forward to hearing from you. Thanks. p.s here´s Catherine in the 1901 census Ardnaree Bunree Kilmoremoy Tirawley Mayo Household Dwyer Catherine(30) washerwoman/married Mary(3)-Anne K.(9mo.) is this George´s mother Ardnaree Bunree Kilmoremoy Tirawley Mayo Household Dwyer Catherine W.(54) widow/born Co. Derry Thomas(24)-Minnie(22)-Charles(20)-Anne(17)-Hugh(15)-Frederick(14)-Winifred Gillespie(70) lodger/widow Patrick. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Thanks so much for sharing these photos. Since the Famine Walk was in March, the February landscape gives one an idea of their suffering. The Reek (Croagh Patrick) does take a good picture. Appreciate it. Mary Ellen Chambers Oceanstrands <oceanstrands@yahoo.com> wrote: Photos of the landscape of the Doolough Valley and the road from Doolough to Louisburgh are in the following link. The photos were taken in February when there was snow on the mountains. There's also a photo of the Famine Monument. Imagine the starving people in tattered clothes and no shoes, walking in a snow and rainstorm along the then dirt and rocky trail hoping for food. They had to sleep outdoors overnight in the snow and rain in frigid conditions. http://www.castlebar.ie/news/article_1515.shtml Oceanstrands ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-MAYO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Photos of the landscape of the Doolough Valley and the road from Doolough to Louisburgh are in the following link. The photos were taken in February when there was snow on the mountains. There's also a photo of the Famine Monument. Imagine the starving people in tattered clothes and no shoes, walking in a snow and rainstorm along the then dirt and rocky trail hoping for food. They had to sleep outdoors overnight in the snow and rain in frigid conditions. http://www.castlebar.ie/news/article_1515.shtml Oceanstrands
Hi Pat, Thank you for letting us know about the monument. When I am in County Mayo next time I would like to visit it. Afri (Action from Ireland) an excellent organization sponsors the Famine Walk each year. http://www.afri.ie/ Beannachtai, Margaret (Máiread) >I think that is why it makes such an impression on one. The brown earth, >the occasional yellow from some gorst, a little bit of green here and >there, To use a quote of Leon Uris from his book of Irish photography, "An >awful beauty". > When we go over, if we have people with us who have never been to Ireland > or maybe just Mayo, we make the drive from Louisburgh and relate the > story. Impressive as it is with the story, I doubt no one ever forgets > what happened. Maybe become a little generous to the various requests > from groups to assist the famine areas of the world. > > pat deese <pdeese@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > >> . It was winter, raining and they were starving sick. On the way to >> Leenane is a cross LEFT side of the road. This was placed by Bishop >> Desmond Tutu several years ago. He was accompanied by members of the >> American Indian Tribe who sent assistance to the starving people. >> > I was just at that memorial 2 weeks ago. Had been there before but when > you see how remote that area is now and how more so then > > pat >
I think that is why it makes such an impression on one. The brown earth, the occasional yellow from some gorst, a little bit of green here and there, To use a quote of Leon Uris from his book of Irish photography, "An awful beauty". When we go over, if we have people with us who have never been to Ireland or maybe just Mayo, we make the drive from Louisburgh and relate the story. Impressive as it is with the story, I doubt no one ever forgets what happened. Maybe become a little generous to the various requests from groups to assist the famine areas of the world. pat deese <pdeese@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > . It was winter, raining and they were starving sick. On the way to Leenane is a cross LEFT side of the road. This was placed by Bishop Desmond Tutu several years ago. He was accompanied by members of the American Indian Tribe who sent assistance to the starving people. > I was just at that memorial 2 weeks ago. Had been there before but when you see how remote that area is now and how more so then pat ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-MAYO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Margaret Thanks so much for all the valuable information that you have provided to us all since 1995. You have always been so helpful. I don't know anymore more informed than you on Irish History. Keep up the good work. Nancy -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "conaught2" <conaught2@charter.net> > My post did not state that immigration to England started in the 1940s, the > trend shifted to England. My Flanagan great grandparents were one of those > who went to England to work in the 1870s and 1880s but returned to Ireland. > I think most people on this list and any Irish list realize that the Irish > immigrated over a period of centuries to various countries, i.e. Canada, the > U.S., Australia, Scotland and England to name a few. I think the point is > being lost that there were other years of famine/ crop failure besides An > Gorta Mor, but the period between 1845-1852 was the most devastating and > altered the populations of many countries because of the massive immigration > due to An Gorta Mor and Ireland lost more than one million souls due to > death caused by An Gorta Mor. My purpose was to give some additional > information and that has been accomplished. For those who wish to learn > more they know that many sources are available to them. > > When I started doing research on the Internet back in 1995 I emailed a > gentleman, who had recruited some volunteers to transcribe the "Index to > the Townlands and Towns, Parishes and Baronies of Ireland". Not being > familiar with the Internet I inadvertently left my name off the email to > the gentleman. When I received a reply from the gentleman he gently let me > know that he normally never responded to any email when a person did not > sign their name. Of course when I wrote back I mentioned that my name was > omitted by accident. I always remembered what Sean Ruad said. Many doing > Irish research use his website today, it is IreAtlas which is now kindly > maintained by Roger McDonnell, since Sean's death. > > Beannachtai, > Margaret (Máiread) > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-MAYO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message
> . It was winter, raining and they were starving sick. On the way to Leenane is a cross LEFT side of the road. This was placed by Bishop Desmond Tutu several years ago. He was accompanied by members of the American Indian Tribe who sent assistance to the starving people. > I was just at that memorial 2 weeks ago. Had been there before but when you see how remote that area is now and how more so then pat
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: oceanstrands Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/1732.1.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Mollie, The 1901 Mayo census shows the following Higgins in Cong Civil Parish: Townland,Civil Parish, Barony,County,Description, Head of household surname,Head of household Given, Head of household Occupation, Other occupants Dringeen Eighter Cong Kilmaine Mayo Household Higgins James(35) farmer Julia(32) wife-Thomas(2)-Mary(1)-John(1mo.)-Mary(70) mother/widow Drumsheel Upper Cong Kilmaine Mayo Household Higgins Thomas(43) farmer/not married Mary(40) sister/not married/farm servant Funshinaugh Cong Kilmaine Mayo Household Higgins Anne(65) nursery business/widow born Co. Galway-Michael(17) (possibly son but not indicated)-James(15) nephew-Patrick(14) nephew Just one Kerwin family spelled Kirwin in County Mayo: Ballinrobe T./Abby St. Ballinrobe Kilmaine Mayo Household Kirwin Timothy(40) solicitor/born Co. Galway Delia Agnes(41) wife-John James(10)-Charles(7)-Norah(6)-Frances(3)-Sarah O'Boyle(58) aunt/widow-Julia Connelly(23) servant/not married/born Co. Galway Ballinrobe town is just northeast of Cong. One O'Malley in Cong: Cong T. Cong Kilmaine Mayo Household O'Malley John(60) shopkeeper/grocer Mary(50) wife-Mary(18)-David(16)-Agnes(11)-James(9) O'Malley and its many variations is an extremely common surname in County Mayo with 210 families listed in the 1901 census with just that surname, 28 Melia/O'Melia families, 7 spelled Malia/O'Malia just to give a few. You'd need to find out from Annie and Ellen's records in the US and their children's where they were born in County Mayo. Church parish records that survive are the sources to search to find family information for their birth location. Cong Catholic parish records unfortunately only go back to 1870 which is too late for your ancestors records. See: http://www.ireland.com/ancestor/fuses/rcparishmaps/index.cfm?fuseaction=showidrecords&CityCounty=Mayo&parish=Cong&churchid=1058 Here's the link to all the Roman Catholic parish maps in County Mayo, click on each parish on the map to find out the years covered in the records and where they can be accessed: http://www.ireland.com/ancestor/browse/counties/rcmaps/mayorc.htm And here are the links to the Roman Catholic parish maps for County Galway: West Galway: http://www.ireland.com/ancestor/browse/counties/rcmaps/galwaywrc.htm East Galway: http://www.ireland.com/ancestor/browse/counties/rcmaps/galwayerc.htm There aren't any records in Ireland about who emigrated, where they went or what happened to them after they left. Oceanstrands There aren't any census records before 1901 and no vital records before 1864. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MissMollie Surnames: Higgins, O'Malia/O'Malley/Melia, Kerwin. Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/1732.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The family story is that these 2 Higgins brothers and the 2 O'Malia/O'Malley sisters married in Ireland and came to the U.S. through New York. An 1888 obituary notice for Martin's oldest son, John (1873 New York - 1888 San Francisco, CA), says "New York newspapers please copy." This tells me there was family that remained in New York and did not come to California. Have also learned that Martin & John Higgins were from Cong, County Mayo, Ireland. Could our families be connected? Have seen various spellings of the O'Malia name. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MissMollie Surnames: Higgins, Melia, O'Malia, Kerwin, "O'Malley Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/1732.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: To update this information - death announcement for John Higgins (October 1914, San Francisco, CA) says that he was born in Cong, County Mayo, Ireland. I would think birth information for his brother, Martin, would be the same location. The above death announcement mentions a cousin, John Kerwin, so this adds new surname to the family. The Kerwin family is shown with the Higgins family in 1880 San Francisco, Co., CA census records. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
My post did not state that immigration to England started in the 1940s, the trend shifted to England. My Flanagan great grandparents were one of those who went to England to work in the 1870s and 1880s but returned to Ireland. I think most people on this list and any Irish list realize that the Irish immigrated over a period of centuries to various countries, i.e. Canada, the U.S., Australia, Scotland and England to name a few. I think the point is being lost that there were other years of famine/ crop failure besides An Gorta Mor, but the period between 1845-1852 was the most devastating and altered the populations of many countries because of the massive immigration due to An Gorta Mor and Ireland lost more than one million souls due to death caused by An Gorta Mor. My purpose was to give some additional information and that has been accomplished. For those who wish to learn more they know that many sources are available to them. When I started doing research on the Internet back in 1995 I emailed a gentleman, who had recruited some volunteers to transcribe the "Index to the Townlands and Towns, Parishes and Baronies of Ireland". Not being familiar with the Internet I inadvertently left my name off the email to the gentleman. When I received a reply from the gentleman he gently let me know that he normally never responded to any email when a person did not sign their name. Of course when I wrote back I mentioned that my name was omitted by accident. I always remembered what Sean Ruad said. Many doing Irish research use his website today, it is IreAtlas which is now kindly maintained by Roger McDonnell, since Sean's death. Beannachtai, Margaret (Máiread)
If you look back to the messages on the Famine topic you'll see the time period is the nineteenth century, not the eighteenth. Liam Swords wrote "In Their Own Words, the Famine in North Connacht, 1845-49" in 1999. It was one of thousands of books about the Famine published in the run up to the Famine 150th anniversary and after. Research in Ireland shows there wasn't a Famine in 1879, there was a crop failure. I posted information to Mary Ellen Chambers already about that on the list. In synopsis, when the crop failed people panicked and were in terror that it was a recurrence of the 1845-50 Famine. The crop returned in 1880. The British Government response to the 1879 crop failure was substantially better than it was during the Famine. Although there was some hunger in certain areas, there were minimal deaths from it. The period after the Famine (1845-50) was actually a period of increased prosperity in Ireland because there was one fifth less of the population to feed for one thing. In Mayo original newspaper reports for the nineteenth century are available for example at the Mayo County Library in Castlebar. British Government reports and records are also available, death records for the period, etc. Gavin hasn't used any primary sources at all for his statements nor has he even visited Ireland once to do any kind of historical research here. When I say primary sources I'm referring to original documents from the time periods. Gavin's sources are 13 books and 4 videos, hardly a fingernail full of sources available and not the level of in depth historical research to even be credible. Any research done in Ireland has to include the majority of primary, original sources from the time period, not just snippets from other peoples books. Emigration to England (and Scotland) was in the tens of thousands in the mid and late nineteenth century. It didn't start in the 1940s. If you look at the nineteenth century England census records you can see that. It was far cheaper and easier to go to England than anywhere else. British Government statistics from the time period about the number of Irish born in England show it too. Or read England history books. Oceanstrands --- On Thu, 6/12/08, conaught2 <conaught2@charter.net> wrote: > From: conaught2 <conaught2@charter.net> > Subject: Re: [IRL-MAYO] Assisted 19th Century Emigration, Mayo specific, information > To: irl-mayo@rootsweb.com > Date: Thursday, June 12, 2008, 6:14 PM > An Gorta Mora from 1845-1852 is of course the most > devastating famine > Ireland experienced, although the 1739-41 famine was also > quite > significant . The information in my post referred to > information I have > learned over the years as well as information from Liam > Swords excellent > book as well as other Irish historians. I mentioned > Gavin's article as a > link because it mentioned the 1879 potato failure or > famine, whichever > terminology is preferred. He does list sources. I was > addressing the > question about if there were other famines (potato > failures/blights) > besides An Gorta Mor. The Gavin article would certainly > not compare to your > expertise on the subject which is presented in your > thesis.I was not using > Gavin as an authority, only as a source referring to the > 1879 potato > failure/famine. No part of Irish history can be > "capsulated in an online > link", as you accurately stated. The Irish suffered > greatly during the > potato failure/famine of 1879-1880 as you must have > mentioned in your > thesis. The U.S. sent shipments of food and supplies and > money to aid the > Irish during this time. All the major newspapers in the > U.S. covered the > potato failure/famine of 1879-1880, as well as news media > in other parts of > the word. Ireland continued to lose many to immigration > during this period. > Coupled with the food shortage and harsh conditions of the > country, Michael > Davitt started his National Land League in 1879 to put an > end to the > inequaties of land ownership and the injustice to the > Irish tenant. > > As a result of An Gorta Mor and the follow up crop failure > years, Ireland > continued to lose her young to immigration. My > grandparents were part of > this mass exodus. Grandfather Michael Smith from County > Mayo; Grandmother > Catherine Doherty Smith from Ballyhillion, Malin Head, > County Donegal in > 1889; Grandfather Michael Dowdall from Ballygruby, > Moneymore, County Derry > in 1906 and Grandmother Katherine Flanagan Dowdall from > County Down in 1907. > By the 1940s the immigration trend shifted from America to > England. It has > been wonderful to see as a result of the Celtic Tiger the > Irish returning > home and no longer need to immigrate to find employment. > In Brackloon, > Swinford where my paternal Grandfather was born in 1858 > (immigrated in 1890 > at the age of 32 with his two younger brothers) more and > more people are > returning and building homes. Townlands in the area which > had lost a large > part of their population are now being repopulated. Due to > the world > ecomonic situation and the European Union much has changed > in Ireland during > the last few years.. it is far different than the Ireland I > first saw in > 1972. > > Your thesis would be a wealth of information for the > readers on the list. > Is there a website where your thesis can be viewed? > > Beannachtai, > Margaret (Máiread) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Oceanstrands" > <oceanstrands@yahoo.com> > To: <irl-mayo@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 5:28 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-MAYO] Assisted 19th Century Emigration, > Mayo > specific,information > > > Research by Irish researchers contradicts what Gavin > says. Gavin is US based so I don't know what original > sources he's used here in Ireland for his research or > what original, primary source records he's had access > to. > > While there were crop failures at various times in the > nineteenth century in Ireland, they aren't considered > by most respected Irish historians as "Famines" > because they weren't widespread like the Famine > (1845-50) was. There are literally thousands of > books published by Irish historians on all facets of > emigration (assisted and othewise), evictions, crop > failures, the land league, etc. > > I did my Masters Thesis on those topics and had over > ten pages of bibliography. It's not something that > can be capsulated in an online link. > > Oceanstrands > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-MAYO-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message
--- On Thu, 6/12/08 at 1:27 p.m. Mary Ellen Chambers Maryln61@sbcglobal.net> wrote: "You misunderstood me. We have a large collection of books on Irish history, literature, etc. In general, majority is not Mayo specific..." --- On Mon, 6/9/08, at 7:43 AM Mary Ellen Chambers <maryln61@sbcglobal.net> wrote: "... we have collected numerous books re: Mayo History .." I didn't misunderstand you. Assisted emigration was mentioned in Cecil Woodham Smith's The Great Hunger published in 1962 so it's certainly not a new piece of information. A history major of who's history and a history major degree received when? Political science of whose politics? If it was 30 or more years ago, even available data about US history/political science has changed substantially since then. Oceanstrands --- On Thu, 6/12/08, Mary Ellen Chambers <maryln61@sbcglobal.net> wrote: ....Assisted emigration was never really mentioned > and maybe not many Irish Americans realized it existed. I > know I didn't. Just thought it was a rare happening. As an undergrade. I was a history major but > didn't take it into an advance degree. Back in the > day, it was often referred to as a BA in Political Science.
Hi Mary Ellen, Are you referring to people who were relocated from County Mayo to the Midlands in the 1950s? Beannachtai, Margaret (Máiread) > You misunderstood me. We have a large collection of books on Irish > history, literature, etc. In general, majority is not Mayo specific. > When I speak of ordering books from the local county library, it is > in reference to a loan situation. If the book is available within the > county system and a few others, I will be able to get it. > I was discussing local Irish emigration history over the weekend > with a person who is working on a PHD re: Irish immigration. When > Government and other groups assisting emigrants were mentioned, I was > interested because it was about Mayo. I had picked up along the way > information re: assistance in Clare, Sligo and a few others but not Mayo. > Since this is a question which comes up time to time with Irish Americans > living in this area, I am curious. We question how they were able to pay > their passage and many arriving penniless how through hard work, they were > able to achieve and give to their children what they did. Assisted > emigration was never really mentioned and maybe not many Irish Americans > realized it existed. I know I didn't. Just thought it was a rare > happening. > As an undergrade. I was a history major but didn't take it into an > advance degree. Back in the day, it was often referred to as a BA in > Political Science.