Dear 'Oceanstrands, when a british soldier was discharged to pension or if he died in service, then the attestation papers for him are in Kew. Unfortunately, my Lawrence died from a surfeit of alcohol so his papers would have been destroyed. I understand that, when a soldier died his place of birth is entered at the back of the last muster book in which he would have been entered. To add to my frustration, this muster has been lost. Thank you for your reply. Regards, Anne ======================================== Message Received: Apr 25 2009, 12:02 PM From: "Oceanstrands" To: irl-mayo@rootsweb.com Cc: Subject: Re: [IRL-MAYO] Lawrence Waters Anne, Civil registration didn't start in Ireland until 1864 so there won't be a civil birth record for him. There aren't any surviving census records before 1901. Trim is in County Meath and there's a possibility if that's where he enlisted he might have been from that area. Did you get his British military records from Kew in England? Don't they include where he was born? You'll want to search in County Meath in the Roman Catholic parish records in the county. Oceanstrandds --- On Fri, 4/24/09, anne@celliddu.freeserve.co.uk wrote: > From: anne@celliddu.freeserve.co.uk > Subject: [IRL-MAYO] Lawrence Waters > To: irl-mayo@rootsweb.com > Date: Friday, April 24, 2009, 5:38 AM > > > Dear Listers, > I am trying to find out where my greatgrandfather, Lawrence > Waters, was born. It would have been around 1844. > > He joined the army in 1856, enlisting in Trim. Giving his > birth year as 1840, he would have received the bounty of a > man instead of that for a boy. He then went abroad and was > only back in Ireland for a short spell of duty in > 1876. I have no idea which part of Ireland he came > from. > > The three indications I have for his year of birth are on > his marriage certificate, 1871 census and death certificate. > They all indicate a birth year of 1844. > > His marriage and death certificates state that his father's > name was James and that he was a clerk. His eldest child's > christian names were Kathleen Jane Etheridge (Kathleen after > his mother or a sister? Jane Etheridge were his mother's > christian names). > > His children were baptized by the roman catholic army > chaplain. > > Have any of you come across Lawrence? > > Yours sincerely, > Anne Vinnicombe > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-MAYO-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-MAYO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Anne, Civil registration didn't start in Ireland until 1864 so there won't be a civil birth record for him. There aren't any surviving census records before 1901. Trim is in County Meath and there's a possibility if that's where he enlisted he might have been from that area. Did you get his British military records from Kew in England? Don't they include where he was born? You'll want to search in County Meath in the Roman Catholic parish records in the county. Oceanstrandds --- On Fri, 4/24/09, anne@celliddu.freeserve.co.uk <anne@celliddu.freeserve..co.uk> wrote: > From: anne@celliddu.freeserve.co.uk <anne@celliddu.freeserve.co.uk> > Subject: [IRL-MAYO] Lawrence Waters > To: irl-mayo@rootsweb.com > Date: Friday, April 24, 2009, 5:38 AM > > > Dear Listers, > I am trying to find out where my greatgrandfather, Lawrence > Waters, was born. It would have been around 1844. > > He joined the army in 1856, enlisting in Trim. Giving his > birth year as 1840, he would have received the bounty of a > man instead of that for a boy. He then went abroad and was > only back in Ireland for a short spell of duty in > 1876.  I have no idea which part of Ireland he came > from. > > The three indications I have for his year of birth are on > his marriage certificate, 1871 census and death certificate. > They all indicate a birth year of 1844. > > His marriage and death certificates state that his father's > name was James and that he was a clerk. His eldest child's > christian names were Kathleen Jane Etheridge (Kathleen after > his mother or a sister? Jane Etheridge were his mother's > christian names). > > His children were baptized by the roman catholic army > chaplain. > > Have any of you come across Lawrence? > > Yours sincerely, > Anne Vinnicombe > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-MAYO-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Dear Listers, I am trying to find out where my greatgrandfather, Lawrence Waters, was born. It would have been around 1844. He joined the army in 1856, enlisting in Trim. Giving his birth year as 1840, he would have received the bounty of a man instead of that for a boy. He then went abroad and was only back in Ireland for a short spell of duty in 1876. I have no idea which part of Ireland he came from. The three indications I have for his year of birth are on his marriage certificate, 1871 census and death certificate. They all indicate a birth year of 1844. His marriage and death certificates state that his father's name was James and that he was a clerk. His eldest child's christian names were Kathleen Jane Etheridge (Kathleen after his mother or a sister? Jane Etheridge were his mother's christian names). His children were baptized by the roman catholic army chaplain. Have any of you come across Lawrence? Yours sincerely, Anne Vinnicombe

Hugs to Martin too. xxxooo ----- Original Message ----- From: DLCulhane@cs.com To: irl-mayo@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 12:47:22 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [IRL-MAYO] marriages in Westport Westport marriages 1823-57 are on LDS film 1279210. To find a film number for yourself, go to familysearch.org, click on Library, then Library catalog, then Place search. Enter Westport in first box and Mayo in second and enter to see all Westport films. Select Church records, then click on Parochial register and View film notes. You can also do this through the Irishtimes.com site, going through Ancestor, Roman Catholic parishes, etc., which is more user friendly, but they take their LDS information off the LDS site so there's one more risk of a typo. Diane ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-MAYO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Westport marriages 1823-57 are on LDS film 1279210. To find a film number for yourself, go to familysearch.org, click on Library, then Library catalog, then Place search. Enter Westport in first box and Mayo in second and enter to see all Westport films. Select Church records, then click on Parochial register and View film notes. You can also do this through the Irishtimes.com site, going through Ancestor, Roman Catholic parishes, etc., which is more user friendly, but they take their LDS information off the LDS site so there's one more risk of a typo. Diane

Someone a few weeks ago gave a Family History Library film number for early marriages in Westport.  I wrote it down, deleted the e-mail and lost my note.  I would appreciate that film # again and I promise not to lose it. Thanks Madeleine

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CaroleLinderoth Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/7983/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am searching for information on Margaret Glynn, b. Abt. 1880 in County Mayo, d. 1935 in Brooklyn, New York, married to Peter J. Kenney (b. 1876) in 1894 in Newton, Mass. We know very little about Margaret, except that she apparently worked for quite a number of years as a servant in the Boston area, including (apparently) having worked for the Mayor of Boston for several years. Any information on Margaret (OR Peter) would be much apreciated! Carole Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kathleenpcorley Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/2770.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Noreen, I would be greatful if you could pass on the information that you have on the Walshes. If I can help you with anything else on the Corley's of Ballintubber just let me know! Thanks again, Seán Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JackJMcBride Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/7982.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The National Archives of Ireland claim on their website that all the 28 counties remaining to be put online for 1911, other than the 4 already there (Down, Antrim, Dublin and Kerry) would be put online between December, 2008 and the summer of 2009. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/about/futureplans.html As of now none of the remaining counties are there. It looks like the National Archives again will be missing deadlines again which they've done for the full course of the project. Did you email the general email or did you email Catriona Crowe who's responsible for the project? You might want to email her, you might get a response from her. ccrowe@nationalarchives.ie Jack Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I'm looking for anyone that can help me locate any relatives of James Joseph McDonnell. James was born 22 Nov 1925 in Swinford, County Mayo, Ireland. He was the son of James McDonnell & Mary McNeela. James joined the US Navy and first settled in Chicago Illinois and eventually settled in Racine Wisconsin after serving in the Navy. James then married my Mom's aunt, Clara Norman Schmidt, aka Dodo, in Waukegan Illinois on 6 Dec 1953. James' life ended quite early when he died as the result of an automocile accident on 10 Oct 1958, between Racine & Milwaukee Wisconsin. I would like to learn more about Uncle Jimmy and share what I know about his life here in the US. I also have some pictures that were amongst my Mom's aunt's posessions that I would like to know if they are of his family. Any leads at all would be extremely appreciated. I don't know anything at all about his parents or if he had any siblings. Thanks & SISU! John in Racine WI USA -- “The face of a child can say it all, especially the mouth part of the face.” *Deep Thoughts, by Jack Handy*

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: k4jh1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/7982/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Does anyone know when the 1911 Census for Mayo will be available online? I have emailed the National Archives, but have received no reply Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tjconroy31 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/1503.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If you are still looking for info . . . Marriage record exists for Owen Treston and Mary Roche, marriage registered in Claremorris, County Mayo on 1/21/1864. Sponsors: Patt Hallin, Mary Goulane(spelling?). Town name is shown as Drumneen. Children: Pat 3/18/1865 (baptism date) Catherine 1/2/1870 (baptism date) John 12/24/1871 (baptism date) James 1/4/1872 (BIRTH date) Michael 8/20/1875 (BIRTH date) Mary 10/14/1877 (baptism date) Owen 10/24/1880 (baptism date) Martin 11/2/1884 (baptism date) If you need any of the godparents names for children. Or microfilm # to find the records, let me know. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Rob, if you Google: "mallabraca, co, cork", you will find a lot of info re your Sam Maguire, I'll leave you to enjoy it, however I've found Sam on the 1901 Census: 1901 Census - 26, Camden St, St. Pancras, London Reg Dist St. Pancras Samuel Maguire 24 b 1877 Cork, Ireland, Sorter at Post Office When reading the information on Sam it quite clearly says he was born in Mallabraca near Dunmanway, Co Cork. My suggestion is for you to Subscribe to the Co. Cork Mailing List.....Happy Hunting.......Meg

Hi. Thanks for the info. It does show that he was still in Cork about the time of my Maguires. I will goggle "mallabraca" as you suggested, and perhaps this will lead me to the info on his parents that I have been looking for. Again, thanks! Rob farcons@comcast.net wrote: > > Hi Rob, if you Google: "mallabraca, co, cork", you will find a lot of info re your Sam Maguire, I'll leave you to enjoy it, however I've found Sam on the 1901 Census: > > > > 1901 Census - 26, Camden St, St. Pancras, London Reg Dist St. Pancras > > > > Samuel Maguire 24 b 1877 Cork, Ireland, Sorter at Post Office > > > > When reading the information on Sam it quite clearly says he was born in Mallabraca near Dunmanway, Co Cork. My suggestion is for you to Subscribe to the Co. Cork Mailing List.....Happy Hunting.......Meg > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-MAYO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: stoumanoff Surnames: Adams, Askin Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/7981/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for any record of William Adams b. 1790 in Co Mayo, married to Elizabeth Askin, prob. also from Mayo, and emigrated to Chili, NY in the 1820s. Please contact stoumanoff@sbcglobal.net Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

The Griffith's index on failteromhat.com doesn't show any O'Cannys but does show Cannys and Canneys, mostly in Clare and Donegal, but a few in Mayo. Diane

Searching for any info on the surname of O'Cany/O'Canny/O'canney. My ancestor, Daniel O'Canny, lived in Westmoreland County, Virginia, in the Colony of Virginia, from at least the mid 1600s until his death in 1715. I know nothing about him other than that he had two daughters, Elizabeth and Sarah. Sarah, my direct ancestor, married Osmon Crabb in Westmoreland County. I think that Daniel O'Canny may have been born in Ireland but I do not have any proof of that at this time. I have also seen the names of David O'Canny and William O'Canny in Westmoreand County. Any info at all on this surname in Mayo County would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Karen

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pasweeney175 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/595.916.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My grandfather was Thomas Boylan from Pollathomas County Mayo. He moved to Hamilton, Lanarkshire Scotland and married Margaret Gilmour. His father was John Boylan and his mother was Sarah McGrath. Thomas died in 1903 of Enteric fever leaving a young widow and four children under six. I have photographs of his widow and children from 1904. Would be happy to communicate any stories that have been passed down, Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: drbobsled Surnames: Neale Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/32.114.154.624.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Bill: Did you ever find any information about Caroline Neale? She is my great great grandmother. I have found that her and William were listed together on the 1841 census at age 17. Again in 1851 age 28(W) 27 (C) in 1861 age 37 for both in 1871 age 46 for both in 1881 age 56 as Caroline Neal (no e at the end of name) She was born in Charing, Kent. The only Caroline I could find born in Kent in 1823 was Caroline Smith christened in 30 NOV 1823 St Alphage, Greenwich, Kent, England Her parents were James and Sarah Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Joyce thank you for telling me that, makes life a bit better. regards Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Hennessy" <joyce.hennessy@comcast.net> To: <irl-mayo@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-MAYO] WYNNE Patrick/MOFFATT Anne Brenda, I use a debit card all the time, both when I order records from Ireland and in the US. It has worked just fine, so far. Joyce Hennessy -----Original Message----- From: irl-mayo-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-mayo-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Brenda Parrott Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:10 PM To: irl-mayo@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-MAYO] WYNNE Patrick/MOFFATT Anne Hello Cathy Thank you so much, I will have another go, I did find it a bit daunting , i dont think i try hard enough really i want everything to just appear when i want it(No patience thats my problem) must be my age. I wont be able to get credits though as i only have a debit card and that isnt acceptable, i will do it again following your advice,and hopefully have a bit more patience . I realyy appreciate your help thank you. Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: <CathOneill@aol.com> To: <irl-mayo@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-MAYO] WYNNE Patrick/MOFFATT Anne You don't "join" IFHF - you simply have to register /get a password, to get a look at their data. That part of it is free. You only pay if you want to see a specific record and for that you need to buy credits using your credit card. No other "cards" are involved. There is no other way of using their service. You can still get a great deal out of their site without paying, like looking for a marriage and entering both parties' names.You can get a possible match if both appear same year, same parish. If you can't get both names that way, then you don't have a match. It takes a bit of trial and error to get the best out of it. I certainly wouldn't bother getting civil records from them. Use the LDS for Civil Registration: births 1864- 1880, 1900-1913,1930-55. marriages 1845 (Non-RC)-1870, marriages (RC) 1864-70 deaths 1864-70 (These are the actual certs. not just indexes) Find births on the IGI/familysearch website -it almost always gives you the film number. Then order the film at your local LDS. Where are you located? If London, they have almost all the available Irish films in stock. Other centers with a large Irish population may do the same. LDS Films are £2.70 and you see the original; records from IFHF are 5 euro, but it's not the original record, just the details from the original- see SAMPLES on their website Or you can get all the certs from Ireland GRO. _www.groireland.ie_ (http://www.groireland.ie) yes, it makes it easier if you have the Volume/page number details, but not necessary as you have all the details I sent you. About 8 euro each now, not sure, they keep going up. If you insist on this option, then make sure you ask for a photocopy of the original, you do not want a new certificate. I don't know why you are having trouble downloading flash-player . It's the simplest download possible, assuming you are using XP You don't have to DO anything and it only takes seconds. Try again and see what happens, or what the error message is. Cathy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-MAYO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.58/2061 - Release Date: 04/15/09 19:52:00 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-MAYO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-MAYO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.58/2061 - Release Date: 04/15/09 19:52:00