This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: carmel65simpson Surnames: Dacey, Carawy Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8461/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My Gt. grandfather, John Dacey b1838? Farmer/servant hailed from Swinford yet I cannot find anything about him. He died before 1911. By my mothers birth registration its down that John's wife was a Bridet (it) nee Carawy?Has anyone heard of this surname in Ireland. They had children, Patrick, possibly Thomas, Michael, John and daughter. John had brother Daniel or Donald (guessing) Their son, my grandfather, Patrick Dacey, b Swinford 1863, famer? took horses from Ireland to S. America. Patrick married in 1911, England, died in England 1926 not long after coming home from the Argentine with his family he had out there.I have been able to find Patrick from 1911 to his death, but again, nothing in Ireland. Any help would be appreciated to climb the brick wall.Thank You. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: FCHESHIRE1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8459.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you Diane, I will keep looking . regards . Flo . Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: didolouise Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8460.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thats what I'm hoping that someone has a tale to tell!! Thanks for your input! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DianeCulhane46 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8459.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You do have a challenge--two countries and two religions! They may have married in some out-of-the-way place to avoid confronting either family. Rootsireland.ie has mostly Catholic records but some Protestant, and putting more on line all the time. I keep a list of "brick walls" that I check every 6 months or so on rootsireland.ie and familysearch.org in the hopes the records I need got posted. Good luck! Diane Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DianeCulhane46 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8460.1.1.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There's always a chance someone will remember an Aunt Lizzie who was sad because, rumor had it, she had to give a child up many years earlier. Good luck! Diane Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: FCHESHIRE1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8459.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for your reply, Yes i have checked extra years incase there were more children! but nothing here in England Diane has just done rootsweb and family search nothing. Cannot find them at all on 1841/51 census. All along clark family tree religian differs between the 2 so i do not know? so assuming they never or was not reg. Flo Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: didolouise Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8460.1.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There are so many ifs and buts about this that it's also compelling that we try to find out what happened!!! When I say rural it was outside of the city but on a train line and the school would have been close enough to cork train station... We're trying to see if we can see the records in both the school she was supposed to have went to in the city and the local school too to see if we can find a year for both of them and possibly other names in the city school.. I've posted this story on so many different websites but I'll try sticking it on a Moran board too... We don't actually think we'll get too far because we've limted information, but we did wonder if there was the possiblity that one of her parents paid for her to be educated, I don't really know much about the school she was supposed to have attended either.. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: maryellenchambers Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8459.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If your ancestor was Catholic, there would only be a sacramental record for the time line you have. Civil Registration for Protestants in Ireland for marriage started in 1845 & Catholic in 1864. Have you checked the records in England within the 2-3 yrs. previous to the birth of their first child?? I have found records for my husband's ancestors in England after they left County Tyrone. We had been searching in Ireland by mistake. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: FCHESHIRE1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8459.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you so much Diane, so kind of you to look for me, do appriciate it. I,m wandering my self if they ever married ? could have married coming over during famine maybe? but was never registered. Just trying to find out who his father was? was hoping marriage may have told me. never mind , again thank you. Flo Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DianeCulhane46 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8460.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If William the son of a railway official, he might have been able to pay for his daughter's education. Unfortunately, so many "might have's" in this story! Diane Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DianeCulhane46 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8460.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: That is an intriguing, perplexing story, made more difficult by the fact it occurred at a time when adoption records, if they existed, were supersecret. The fact that your grandmother lived in a rural area but attended city schools makes you wonder if one of her parents contributed to her education, perhaps anonymously. Another very long shot, but you might try posting to the Moran board or list in the hopes that a descendant of one of Elizabeth's siblings might recognize the story. Diane Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: didolouise Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8460.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Meant to also add that the marriage cert I have for William finn and Elizabeth Moran has Williams father name of John Finn with an occupation of railway official and I found one william finn in dublin matching up Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: didolouise Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8460.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My Grandmother understood that the woman who raised her wasn't her mother and wasn't given much information other than she was orphaned, but as time has gone especially since my GM died 13 years ago more stories are coming out, one story is that her mother was married, met a man and had an affair with him and my GM was a result of it, her mother then apparently moved to cork when pregnant, met this woman who brought my GM up, and appeared one day and gave this woman my GM, and no more of a story afterwards, it was said this woman who was my GM mother, elizabeth moran was from Kildare... But there are a lot of little things that we're trying to put together to see if we figure out how my GM came to be in Cork, another little oddity is where she grew up was isolated enough, but she apparently went to a school in Cork City which would be about 10 15 miles from where she grew up, but my mother has seen my GM's name on an old school register with "Orphan" after her name.... She was born in 1926 so no census records for her, and we can't find a Civil birth record for her as of yet anyway.. The distance between where her parents were from and where she grew up is what throws us out in all of this, if it all happened in the same place it would be easier to just accept she was given up for one reason or another, but the distance makes us think twice.. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DianeCulhane46 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8460.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: It's early here so I'm not thinking quickly, but to be sure I understand, did your grandmother know she was adopted and her parents not married? Is it possible they were married but couldn't afford to raise her? Do you also have the civil birth record? I don't know when your grandmother was born, but the 1911 census shows a William and Elizbeth Finn in Howth with son William, age 2, married 1906-07. You might get their marriage record or the birth record for William Jr. to learn Elizbeth's maiden name. It's a long shot, but the family might have later fallen on hard times (this William a laborer in 1911) and been unable to raise your grandmother. A few single William Finns in Dublin in 1911, and lots of single Elizabeth Morans, unfortunately. Diane Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: didolouise Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8460.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: All it says is Parents of Dublin, then C/O the woman who brought my GM up, it doesn't give us much of an idea really, but I thought that maybe they later married, the William Finn in the marriage cert had an occupation of Garda Sargent with Headford as his residence at the time, and the Elizabeth Moran was from Ballinrobe.. Meant to say that I'm in Cork and my GM was brought up in cork, so it's probably a very long shot that these are her parents but better to rule them out first.. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DianeCulhane46 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8458.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Did you order film for the two parishes I suggested? Diane Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DianeCulhane46 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8460.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Does the baptismal record say they weren't married at that time? Diane Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: didolouise Surnames: Finn - Moran Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8460/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi I've recently found out my Grandmothers parents were William Finn and Elizabeth moran, they were on her baptismal record, so I checked to see if there was marriage record for them after my GM's birth on the off chance they got married, I did find one for Ballinrobe in 1929, so I'm trying to work forward from this marriage record to see if they were possibly my GM's parents, if anyone has any info on them plese let me know so I can either rule them out or look further... Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: wendyevans86 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8458.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: still need help please as i cant find him in ireland thanks wendy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DianeCulhane46 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8459.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I couldn't find the marriage on either the rootsireland.ie or familysearch.org site, but not all church records have been entered and 1850 was before civil registration of Catholic marriages. That's assuming they were Catholic. If Protestant, the marriage should have been registered. (Queens today is called Laois or Leix.) Diane Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.