Thanks, this is exactly what I was looking for, it actually helps a lot, at least to use as a guide. Thanks, John -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 12/9/11 6:14 AM ext Stephanie Morgan wrote: --- You wrote: 6) I have seen some people referencing 'tranditional' naming practices for male children in the area, but haven't seen the 'rules' - anyone have pointers? --- end of quote --- Hi, I found the following, which will give you a start: http://www.babynamesofireland.com/irish-naming-traditions Of course, there are always exceptions to the 'rules' but this may be helpful during your search. Thanks, Steph Stephanie Morgan Grants Officer Office of Sponsored Projects 11 Rope Ferry Road, #6210 Hanover, NH 03755-1404 Ph: 603-646-3977 Fx: 603-646-3670 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi John, I found Kilfian listed here: http://homepage.eircom.net/~oflannery/ca/tithe.htm This appears to be a listing of where you would find the information on microfilm, etc. It is not a list of the actual names... however, I have found some online list of names when people have transcribed them and posted them. I hope this helps! Thanks, Steph Stephanie Morgan Grants Officer Office of Sponsored Projects 11 Rope Ferry Road, #6210 Hanover, NH 03755-1404 Ph: 603-646-3977 Fx: 603-646-3670

--- [email protected], [email protected] wrote: Does anyone know any online sources for the Tithes for Rathreagh and Lifian parishes? I haven't been able to find any. --- end of quote --- I think that what does exist online has been hand-entered by individuals and uploaded to web sites. I do not think that they are all entered as I cannot find certain parishes. There are obviously the 'paper/microfilm' sources, but to my knowledge what exists online (meaning you can google and search at your computer without ordering anything) is what people have been able to upload. Having said that - occasionally, I do see a new uploaded parish, so it's always worth checking regularly, but you may want to turn your attention to 'original' sources instead of online ones... There are several folks on this listserv who are well-versed in the 'original' sources, so I am sure that they will post something to help you out. Thanks, Steph Stephanie Morgan Grants Officer Office of Sponsored Projects 11 Rope Ferry Road, #6210 Hanover, NH 03755-1404 Ph: 603-646-3977 Fx: 603-646-3670

--- You wrote: 6) I have seen some people referencing 'tranditional' naming practices for male children in the area, but haven't seen the 'rules' - anyone have pointers? --- end of quote --- Hi, I found the following, which will give you a start: http://www.babynamesofireland.com/irish-naming-traditions Of course, there are always exceptions to the 'rules' but this may be helpful during your search. Thanks, Steph Stephanie Morgan Grants Officer Office of Sponsored Projects 11 Rope Ferry Road, #6210 Hanover, NH 03755-1404 Ph: 603-646-3977 Fx: 603-646-3670

Hi all, I am researching my great-grandfather, Thomas Loughney. I know he arrived in the US about 1865, and was born Dec 1842 in Ireland. Thomas had 2 sons born in the US, John Joseph and Patrick. I have been searching the Griffith's valuations on http://www.askaboutireland.ie, and have found a bunch of Loughney's but spelled Loghney, which I assume is a transcription error. I noticed that there are a number of Thomas Loghney's: http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&Submit.x=0&Submit.y=0&Submit=Submit&familyname=loghney&firstname=thomas&baronyname=&countyname=&unionname=&parishname= KILCUMMIN, KILCUMMIN; BALLYGARRY, KILCUMMIN; CARROWTRASNA KILCUMMIN; Upper KEELOGES, LACKAN; Lower KEELOGES, LACKAN; LECARROWNTEMPLE, LACKAN; KILLOGEARY, LACKAN I am also cross-referencing John's as well as John is very common in my family (considering my grandfather was John Joseph, my father was John Thomas, and I am John Alexander (Alexander is both my maternal grandfather's middle name as well as my godfather's name)) - I am assuming that there is a high likelihood that John at least his father's name or brother's name. John Loghney was listed in: KILCUMMIN, KILCUMMIN; KILCUMMIN, KILCUMMIN; CARROWTRASNA, KILCUMMIN; CARROWTRASNA, KILCUMMIN My questions are: 1) the left most column of the pages have a number, are these essentially a 'lot' number? 2) the 2nd leftmost column has letters, and if they are a, b, etc. - can I assume these are multiple houses/cabins on the same lot? 3) can I also assume people living on the same lot most likely were family? 4) Would my great grandfather at age 14 be too young to be listed on the Valuation? Even if, for example, his father died? 5) In the Valuations, there are some curly brackets in the 2nd left column. Can I assume these indicate grouping? 6) I have seen some people referencing 'tranditional' naming practices for male children in the area, but haven't seen the 'rules' - anyone have pointers? 7) Any other suggestions? Tracking down this information is quite vexing, so I am open to any suggestions! Thanks! John

John, here's a link to an article that will answer most of your questions about Griffith's: http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/GRIFFITH/more_to_griffiths.html I can order some of them quickly here. Loghney would not be a transcription error for Loughney, but simply a reflection of the fact that many names didn't have standardized spellings in those days. Griffith's occupiers were heads of households, so if your greatgrandfather's father had died, the lease probably passed to his widow , brother, or oldest son. You can follow the passing on of leases on the revised valuations, which the LDS have filmed. There were no hard-and-fast rules for names, but the first children were often named for the grandparents, the next round for the parents, then aunts and uncles. However, among my ancestors, only about half the families followed that practice. Diane

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MartinMcNicholas Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8472.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Mary, sorry to trouble you, just wondered if there was any McNicholas evictions listed. This is my family originating from around the area. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MartinMcNicholas Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/13.153/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have a Michael and Catherine McHale in my tree. They Lived in Fisherhill, County Mayo. One of their daughters Mary married my grandfather Martin McNicholas from Crimlin/Crumlin Mayo and they then took land in Lissaniska, near Keelogues,Mayo. There would have been many McHales, probably all originating from same family in Fisherhill re 4 McHale Landholders there in the Griffiths Valuation 1857- Mc Hale Michael Fisherhill Turlough Mayo Mc Hale James Luke Fisherhill Turlough Mayo Mc Hale James David Fisherhill Turlough Mayo Mc Hale John Fisherhill Turlough Mayo Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

We have just uploaded the Lot 15 of the Encumbered Estate of CHARLES BLAKE, Esq.(Coolcon and Garrymore) 1852. Names of tenants are included. To view go to: http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ Click on MAYO and then Land. Christina https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ireland-Genealogy-Projects/206512622694663?sk=wall ===============================

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: originsgenealogyproject Surnames: KEARNS, CALLAGHAN, NALLY, FLATLEY, CURRY Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/7775.2.3.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks. I love to hear the tidbits of info on the area since I've not been able to visit there myself yet. My cousin and grand uncle visited the old KEARNS farm back in 2005 though they knew it was no longer occupied by a KEARNS and took a few pictures. Another cousin from here in the USA visited last year and Catherine NALLY from Knock showed them around. My great grandmother Margaret KEARNS was born on that farm (dtr of Bryan KEARNS and Mary Anne CALLAGHAN - of the Lakehill CALLAGHANs). Is there anything else you can tell me about the KEARNS/FLATLEY/CURRY branch? Joe Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: coircog Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/7775.2.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: joe The kearns family you write about lived in Ruane Knock co Mayo and the old home was the first house on the left after turning lright at Ruane cross which is the first crossroads after leaving knock village going in the direction of Ballyhaunis. This is about a mile from Knock.Im sorry to tell you but the last of the family in this home passed away a number of years ago. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Thank you for the information Rose

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: originsgenealogyproject Surnames: KEARNS, FLATLEY, CURRY Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/7775.2.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks! I'd love to hear about anything you can send me on the KEARNS, FLATLEY, CURRY etc. families -- you can reach me off the message board at: joe at originsgenealogy.com (replace 'at' with @) Cheers, Joe Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: coircog Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/7775.2.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: joe just to let you know that the delia and bridget who married thomas kearns are the same person.It was common in ireland to call a girl christened bridget delia she was born in oct 1901 and her mother was julia curry from carramore i am related and if you send me your e-mail i will foward further info Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Greetings Amazon and Barnes and Nobles have copies of both of these books. Vince

Thank you Nancy and Diane for the suggestions. Rose

I have an eleven year old great granddaughter that is very much interested in the history of Ireland. Her great great great grandparents came from Co Mayo, Ireland. For Christmas I would like to buy her some Irish history books for children of her age. Does anyone have any suggestions? Rose

The Long March tells the story of how the Choctaw Indians of Oklahoma sent aid to the starving Irish during the potato famine (many Choctaw had starved along the Trail of Tears years earlier), and is aimed at younger children. Black Potatoes is also about the potato famine, aimed at children 12 and up. Both very good. You can Google to read more about them. Diane

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: hofers Surnames: Herbert,Geraghty Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/2126.2.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Dear Misty Sorry, my Bridget was a Geraghty before she married Patrick Herbert. I have run accross another Bridget Herbert but would have to look up the info again. do you use the family search from the LDS online? I may have picked up the other Bridget there. Good luck! there are many free sites to cruise genealogy online. my local library subscribes to heritage quest which has most all of the census years transcribed and very easy to use. check at your local library and se if they might pay for that subscription for their patrons to use. Mary Hofer Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: irelandxo Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/21.148.217/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, my name is Mary McLoughlin from the parish of Aughrim in Co. Galway. I am part of a local community group, Ireland Reaching Out, searching for people of Irish heritage abroad with a connection to our parish. My reason for writing is to invite you to become part of this exciting new initiative (www.irelandxo.com) and also to invite you, your family and friends, to a very special celebration in June 24th-30th, 2012. In June 2012, the parish community of Aughrim will be part of a Week of Welcomes festival. Activities will include visits to ancestral townlands, talks on local history and tours/leisure activities in the local South East Galway area. Throughout this week, participants will be welcomed to the parish, re-introducing them to their communities and place of origin. As a nominated Week of Welcomes co-ordinator, I have been asked on behalf of the people of the parish of Aughrim to invite you and members of your family to this exciting event. We hope our invitation is of interest and that you will want to learn much more. We look forward to hearing from you. Please visit our website www.irelandxo.com Best wishes Mary Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.