This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Delia1Rose1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/1844.2.2.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you Jack for your response & help :) Josephine Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Delia1Rose1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/1844.2.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: that was supposed to be 1911 not 1991....sry for my typelexia Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Delia1Rose1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/1844.2.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: sorry abt not changing the subject line i thought i was responding to the ppl who posted sbt the Derrigs all i have is the death cert for Michael Butler which says he was bn Oct 15 1860 died Apr 15 1914 in St.Louis,MO his parents names listed as Patrick Butler & Julia Derrick....the closest i could find was Aghagower Baptisms 1850 to 1859 Thomas of Pat BUTLER and Judy DERRIG August 17 Shraugheen which i believe to be a brother of Michael & Michael named his 1 & only son Thomas also in the 1901 & 1991 i found Michael's wife family in Sraheen Aghagower Burrishoole Mayo & his dau my great gma on a ship list Bridget Butler 10 yrs.last res.Shroheen,Ireland final dest.St.Louis,MO came with aunt thx, Josephine Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi all, I am looking at Griffiths Valuation for Mayo, and I believe I have found my 2xgreat grandfather, James Cunningham, in Cashel townland. I am somewhat confused, as there are a large number of Cunninghams (John Senior, John Junior, Peter, Thomas and James). They each seem to listed multiple times in Cashel, see below: http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&Submit.x=31&Submit.y=18&Submit=Submit&familyname=cunningham&firstname=First+Name&baronyname=&countyname=MAYO&unionname=KILLALA&parishname=KILCUMMIN Is it correct to assume that if description is just 'land' then no one is living on it; only "Land and house" would be where someone was living? Secondly, on www.askireland.ie I looked at the maps, and I only see numbers 1 - 14 on the map, but the valuation lists 1 - 24. I am slightly confused, and hope someone could help me make sense of this. Finally, anyone know where I might be able to find birth, marriage and death records for Cashel townland? Would those be in Kilcummin or Killala? Thanks, John

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tmdef Surnames: Butler Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/1844.2.2.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You said you are looking for a Julia who married a Patrick Butler of Sraheen, Aghagower, Mayo. I have lots of Butlers in my family from there. Have found much info from 2 sites: Google Pat Deese geneology - he has lists from that area of marriages, births and baptisms, deaths etc. Also try "mayoancestors.com". I'm sure you will find what you are looking for there. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is my ninth year of sending the Irish Christmas Welcome. Enjoy! Mary An Irish Christmas Welcome 'Twas Christmas Eve at St. Mary's and the Pastor, Father Gibb, Was watching Michael, the sexton, as he carefully fixed the Crib. The sheep and the oxen were standing guard-the straw was neatly piled; And Mary and Joseph were kneeling, admiring their tender Child. The star that guided the Magi flooded the stable with light. "'Tis beautiful, Michael," the Pastor said. "It looks like that First Holy Night." "Ah, faith, and I think it is terrible," the sexton replied with a frown, "The way that our Savior had to be born in that miserable pagan town." "Sure, there isn't an Irishman living, much less is there one in the grave,' >From County Derry down to Kerry that'd let Him be born in a cave." "If the Irish were living in Bethlehem, Joseph need not have knocked; Sure, Mary and he could have walked right in, for our doors are never locked." "And if they had come to my cottage, they'd have found the door full wide- 'Cead mile failte," I'd say to them, "God bless ye and step inside.' "I'd shake up the old turf fire, and make them as warm as could be; And I'd have my wife, God rest her, make them a pot of tea. "And if the soldiers of Herod came after the baby, the fakes; Me and the neighbors would rout them, like Patrick drove out the snakes. "'Tis a pity, Father, I tell you, without a word of lie, That there wasn't an Irishman livin' when Mary and Joseph passed by." -Edward J. McTague

Thanks to Nan Brennan for this info:  From: "Brian Donovan" <[email protected]> Date: December 9, 2011 4:54:26 PM CST Subject: 2012 Family History Workshop   2012 Family History Workshop at National Archives Chicago Hidden Treasures at Ancestry.com Saturday, February 11: 9:30 AM - 11:00 AM Join well-known Family Historian and Genealogist Loretta "Lou" Szucs for an informative look at one of the most popular online collections of genealogical-related data in the world. Lou will illustrate how to use Ancestry.com to dig up those hidden treasures that make us say “Wow!” The workshop is free and will be held at our Chicago facility near Ford City Mall and Midway Airport at 7358 South Pulaski Road in Chicago. For further information about this workshop, or to register, please contact Kris Maldre at 773-948-9010 or via e-mail at [email protected] Space is limited, so RSVP today!   This is from page 3 of the attachment. Kathleen Brennan Mammoser Researching BRENNAN, BRETT,GALLAGHER & KENNEDY in CO MAYO > CHICAGO and BRENNAN in CO SLIGO > CHICAGO HOWARD in CO CORK > HARVARD , IL > CHICAGO BRICKLEY in CO CORK > HARVARD, IL > CHICAGO MAMMOSER in Schoenenbourg , FRANCE > CHICAGO   http://www.mammoser.com

Hi! We have just added two files of Encumbered Estates (Estates being sold off). Encumbered Estate property of CHARLES BLAKE, Esq.(Carraskeane) 1852 - Lot 16 Encumbered Estate property of CHARLES BLAKE, Esq.1852.(Clonkeen, Curramore, Ballyglass, Knockanroe, Ballinphuil & Gortnanning) - Lot 17 The names of the tenants are included. To check these out go to: http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ Click on MAYO and then LAND. Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ireland-Genealogy-Projects/206512622694663?sk=wall ===============================

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rosaleaj_1 Surnames: Kelly Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8477/mb.ashx Message Board Post: HI, I am searching for any information about Kierne (not sure if that is the correct spelling)KELLY and Ellen WALSH. Their daughter MARARET (b.1836 Westport, Mayo, Ireland) married (1853,Wirral, Birkenhead) William FARRAHER and emigrated around 1859-60. 2 children were born at Birkenhead and 4 more were born in Australia. I'm not sure at this stage if Kierne and Ellen emigrated also. Any information would be greatly appreciated Cheers Rosalea Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DianeCulhane46 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8476.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: But civil marriage records can lead you to church marriage records, which usually show the mothers' names. Diane Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: saf58inks Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/2067.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My ancestors William Judge and Catherine Kelly lived in Crossmolina parish, Co. Mayo - possibly Rathmore - before emigrating to Canada in about 1830. His father may have been named John; mother isn't known for certain. We know nothing about the Kelly (alt. Kelley) clan. If you are connected to these lines, let me know. It would be great to connect with others who are interested in researching these lines in Ireland. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: shanew147 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8476.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Note - civil marriage records will show father's names and occupations. Mother's names are not shown on Irish marriage certs. Shane Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DianeCulhane46 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8476.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Here's a link to Patrick Higgins marriages in Mayo for 1864-70, though you can narrow it down to 1867-68. https://www.familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=+givenname:patrick`~ +surname:higgins~ +marriage_place:"mayo, ireland"~ +marriage_year:1864-1870~ And here's a similar link on another Web site: http://mayo.rootsireland.ie/quis.php?page=0&prevStartQuery=0 If you're pretty sure about Ann's name, you could search for her too and see if you get any matches. Diane Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MarciaB100 Surnames: Higgins, Dwyer Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8476/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am trying to put together a family tree for my great niece who was just born this week. It is my goal to go back 6 generations. Her 'other' side has quite a bit of Irish. I am looking for info just on this couple. I would like to find their marriage record, which hopefully would state their parents names. In 1900 Patrick stated he immigrated in 1870)but they are in 1870 census. The settled in Chicago. His age is very inconsistent. age in 1870 census - 30,(born 1840) age on marriage cert 1879 - 35(born 1844) age in 1880 census 36 (born 1844) age in 1900 census 53(born Feb 1947) age on death on cert 1903 - 52( born 1851) Ann is only found on the 1870 census and her age is listed as 22.(b abt 1848) By 1880 Patrick is married to someone else. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Either finding this couple or sending me to where I can search. Thank you! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Stephanie, Thanks - I was thinking that I might need to revert to microfilm sources. I think that has to wait until after the holidays. Thanks for the information, John -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ext Stephanie Morgan Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 11:14 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-MAYO] Tithes for Rathreagh and Kilfian? --- [email protected], [email protected] wrote: Does anyone know any online sources for the Tithes for Rathreagh and Lifian parishes? I haven't been able to find any. --- end of quote --- I think that what does exist online has been hand-entered by individuals and uploaded to web sites. I do not think that they are all entered as I cannot find certain parishes. There are obviously the 'paper/microfilm' sources, but to my knowledge what exists online (meaning you can google and search at your computer without ordering anything) is what people have been able to upload. Having said that - occasionally, I do see a new uploaded parish, so it's always worth checking regularly, but you may want to turn your attention to 'original' sources instead of online ones... There are several folks on this listserv who are well-versed in the 'original' sources, so I am sure that they will post something to help you out. Thanks, Steph Stephanie Morgan Grants Officer Office of Sponsored Projects 11 Rope Ferry Road, #6210 Hanover, NH 03755-1404 Ph: 603-646-3977 Fx: 603-646-3670 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Hi Diane, Thanks for sending this, this helped. I actually had a bit of luck and I was able to get my ggrandfather's death certificate after asking a 2nd time for it. With that, I have been able to get fairly unique names for his parents and found them on Griffiths. Thanks much for the help, John -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ext [email protected] Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 5:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-MAYO] Need a little help navigating Griffiths Valuations John, here's a link to an article that will answer most of your questions about Griffith's: http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/GRIFFITH/more_to_griffiths.html I can order some of them quickly here. Loghney would not be a transcription error for Loughney, but simply a reflection of the fact that many names didn't have standardized spellings in those days. Griffith's occupiers were heads of households, so if your greatgrandfather's father had died, the lease probably passed to his widow , brother, or oldest son. You can follow the passing on of leases on the revised valuations, which the LDS have filmed. There were no hard-and-fast rules for names, but the first children were often named for the grandparents, the next round for the parents, then aunts and uncles. However, among my ancestors, only about half the families followed that practice. Diane ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: johnloughney1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8475/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi all, Does anyone know any online sources for the Tithes for Rathreagh and Lifian parishes? I haven't been able to find any. thanks! John Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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