This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: akaglenda Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8189.2.1.3.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: No apology necessary..it's just nice to connect with others researching their family tree. Just wish we could have found a common thread. You do mention a marriage date for my grandparents, William and Lola? You have the date as 5 June 1900? and that Lola was the daughter of Cornelius Burns and Catherine Cavanaugh? May I ask where and how you found this info? I was never quite sure of their marriage date and was not sure of the spelling of Catherine's maiden name. So, as it is, you have given me several bits of info that I did not have and I thank you very much, Linda Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: coffmanfamilytree Surnames: Durkin Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8189.2.1.3.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I finally figured it out, and sadly, I was wrong and completely off. Through a backwards search I find that "my" Mariah was a Widow by 1880. However, a small portion of the data I culled is accurate for your Thomas and Maria Durkin of Niagara Falls. As follows: In 1900, the Durkin Family lives in Niagara Falls, NY, on Eric Avenue with a boarder named Borus Bingman. Thomas owns a home (with a mortgage), and his occupation is "Papermaker". In 1910, the Durkin Family lives in Niagara Falls, NY and they have a 50-year-old boarder named Katherine Pond in the household. And the children's birth records I also believe to be accurate, as they match the names on the NY Census: 1. William (Given name: Guilielnum Carolum b. May 11, 1876, c. 6/18/1876, m. Lolam Burns [child of Cornelius Burns and Catherine Cavanaugh] on June 5, 1900); 2 & 3. Mary/Mariam {New York Birth records show TWO (2) Mariams. The first- Mariam Fredericam b. November 27, 1872, c. December 22, 1872; the second, Mariam (no middle name) b. April 24, 1879, c. June 1, 1879}; 4. Fredricum Josephum (b. January 17, 1882, c. January 22, 1882); 5. Thomas/Thomam (b. March 1885, c. April 5, 1885); and 6. Elizabetham Marie (b. October 25, 1888, c. November 18, 1888, m. to Edward Joseph Mondor [son of John B. Mondor and Maria Kelly] on May 8, 1916). I apologize for erroneous posting, I hope Elizabeth's marriage record makes up for it. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: coffmanfamilytree Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8189.2.1.3.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Do you mean familysearch.org? You will find an AMAZING amount of data very very easily. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: akaglenda Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8189.2.1.3.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This is great...thank you so much. I must get a new printer soon. Now I am going to check out that website, don't think I have been there before. Hopefully I will find something new :) Linda Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: coffmanfamilytree Surnames: Durkin Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8189.2.1.3.1.2.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: OH! I just remembered... I have a document of Your Thomas and Maria's daughter Elizabeth's marriage record. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

My experience hass been that the Catholic birth/baptism record is likely to be the most accurate. A baby was baptised quickly after birth, as an unbaptised child who died would not be allowed to be buried in the Catholic Cemetery....hence, all the small crosses near the entrancee to many such] cemeteries.  Their was a penalty for waiting too long to register a birth with the civil authorities in addition to the normal registration fee, so parents who were facing payment of the penalty often changed the date of birth to fall within the required registration period. Marge - Tucson, AZ Searching - Kilkenny, Lydon and Treston in and around Ballyhaunis, Mayo ----- Original Message ----- From: "john loughney" <[email protected]> To: [email protected], [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 6:40:20 PM Subject: [IRL-MAYO] question on RC birth reports vs Civil birth reports Hi all, I found a Civil Birth report for a great uncle, as well as the RC birth/baptism. They had slightly different dates.  The Civil was later than the Roman Catholic report. Any ideas?  Would the Roman Catholic report be the birth or the baptism?  Would the Civil report be when the report was made? thanks, John   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: akaglenda Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8189.2.1.3.1.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for the tip..actually I just happened upon your family tree online at Ancestry so am checking it out. If you have any questions for me or if I can help you locate a census record or such, please let me know.....I'm fairly new at this, but I love the challenge. Happy hunting, Linda Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: coffmanfamilytree Surnames: Durkin Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8189.2.1.3.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: So close... yet so far. I too will keep looking, there may be an underlying connection we just do not see yet. All data I have is all from familysearch.org. The 1860 census is a premium document, but it (and tons of other good stuff) can be found for free at the internet archive (http://www.archive.org/details/genealogy). Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: akaglenda Surnames: Durkin Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8189.2.1.3.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yes, I agree the dates are funky...Thomas was born abt. 1 Dec. 1844..he was 91 yrs. 10 mo. and 19 days old at the time of his death. Maria was also born in 1844 (her parents were born in Ireland). Her age at time of death is 77 yrs. They both would have been around 13 yrs of age at the birth of John in 1857..I don't believe we are researching the same Thomas and Maria..........drats!!! Niagara Falls records are few and far between and I have not made any progress for a very long time...maybe we will make a connection yet, I sure hope so. I have not been able to find the 1860 and 1870 census records you mentioned. May I ask where you found them? Please keep in touch and I will keep looking also, Linda Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: coffmanfamilytree Surnames: Durkin Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8189.2.1.3.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: It's maddening because half of it matches but the dates seem wonky... One thing I learned as a volunteer is to count on census data being "off". 1. The death date of 1936 throws me. Could he have lived to be 100? I have Thomas' birth date as between 1833 and 1846. 2. The marriage date of 1871 from the NY Census seems off too, since I have him with Mariah Durkin as far back as 1860 in PA. 3. The 1860 and 1870 census in PA shows Mariah born in Ireland, then the 1900 NY censuses show Mariah as being born in New York to parents born in Ireland, and in 1910 being born in New York to {I can't make out what it says} Pu? English parents. I would love to send you scans of the census pages I am working from. I still think we are on to something because 4. the Thomas and Mariah listed as parents of Mary Ann (1861) in the 1860 & 1870 census disappear from Pennsylvania records in 1880, and the 1890 census is lost, then in 1900 a Thomas and Mariah Durkin with the same birth dates appear in Niagara Falls. 5. I feel like I am looking for "John Smith" with no other data!! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Kathryn983 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8507.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you so much Diane! I've found the South Mayo Family Research Centre online and they have tons of information that will help me out when I get there. Church records date back to 1794. I will be in research heaven! Again, thank you! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Kathryn983 Surnames: Moran Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8507.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for this information. I will keep it for when I get to the S. Mayo Family Research Centre. I'm not very talented when it comes using the Griffiths Valuation. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: akaglenda Surnames: Durkin/Faulkner Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8189.2.1.3.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Well, just checked dates on my Durkin family..and here is what I have that you may not know. 1930 census Bronx, Bronx, New York shows Thomas living with his daughter, Mary and his grandson, Frederick. Thomas died 16 Nov. 1936 and is buried at Oakwood Cem. in a family plot. Marion (Maria) Anna Faulkner was born in N.F. to William and Mary Faulkner. She died 4 Aug. 1922 in N.F. and is also buried at Oakwood along with other family members. In the 1900 census in N.F. states that Thomas and Maria's marriage year to be 1871 and married for 29 yrs...this would be after John, Margaret and Mary Ann were born? Please let me know what you think. Will be waiting to hear from you. Linda Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: coffmanfamilytree Surnames: Durkin Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8189.2.1.3.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for your fast reply! There seems to be a lot of similarity in our data, and I hope it's a strong match! I do have an ancestry account, but only the free one that does not allow me to actually "use" the site. I am however a LDS Family Search Center Library Volunteer and can access many premium sites when signed in at the Center and I would be happy to look things up to help further this line of research. :) -EK Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: akaglenda Surnames: Durkin Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8189.2.1.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Wow, that is alot of new info...I will check out my family tree right now and get back with you. Hopefully, we are researching the same Thomas and Maria Durkin. I do know for a fact the records in Niagara Falls are my Durkin family..but have never placed them in Pa. Are you a member of Ancestry.com ? Will get right back to you, thank you, Linda Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: alison_1990 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8445.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi thought i should email on the off chance we could be related. Ive only just started researching my family but i have O'Boyles from Co Mayo. You dont have a Kate O'Boyle, Manus O'Boyle, James O'Boyle, Eugene O'Boyle,John O'Boyle and Martin O'Boyle (all brothers and sisters) by any chance. Their parents were Joseph O'Boyle and Bridget Ryder. All born between around 1860 and 1900's Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: coffmanfamilytree Surnames: durkin, faulkner, coffman Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8189.2.1.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I think I will post what I know and see if it resonates with anyone as similar data as it may be of some use to someone someday... According to census records from 1860 through 1920, and New York State Birth Records I have found the following information: Thomas was born in Ireland between 1833 and 1846. Different censuses show differing birth dates, but always in Ireland. I do not know the County, although family rumor is "County Mayo". According to the 1910 census, Thomas immigrated to America between 1850 and 1851. In 1860, Thomas Durkin and Mariah Anna Faulkner are living in Stroudsburg, PA with their children John (1857), Margaret E. (1859), and Mary Ann (1861). Thomas is a Farmer with $75 worth of personal property. In 1870, Thomas and Mariah live in Tobyhanna Mills, Paradise, PA. Thomas is a Farmer with $400 worth of real estate and $300 worth of personal property, and he can not read or write. The Durkin's have a 21-year-old boarder named Hannah Coffman living with them. (Item of note: Mary Ann Durkin married a Theodore Coffman.) In 1880, I cannot find hide or hair of them... The 1890 census is "lost". In 1900, the Durkin Family has moved to Niagara Falls, NY, and they live on Eric Avenue with a boarder named Borus Bingman. Thomas can now read and write, owns a home (with a mortgage), and has changed occupation to "Papermaker". In 1910, the Durkin Family still lives in Niagara Falls, NY and they have a 50-year-old boarder named Katherine Pond in the household. In 1920, they may live in Jefferson, NY, but I am having trouble sourcing an accurate record. ~ Mariah Anna Faulkner is the Wife of Thomas Durkin. She has been a little bit harder to track. Census records vary on her place of birth, listing both New York and Ireland, however, all census records indicate that her parents were both born in Ireland. Additionally, 99% of records do list Mariah's year of birth as 1830. The 1900 New York census record shows Mariah the mother 7, 5 living. However, this conflicts with New York State Birth Records for Thomas and Mariah Durkin's children, and census records are usually the ones that have erroneous information noted by careless census takers... The children's names I have been able to find are: 1. John (1857); 2. Margaret E. (1859); 3. Mary Ann (1861); 4. William (Given name: Guilielnum Carolum b. May 11, 1876, c. 6/18/1876, m. Lolam Burns [child of Cornelius Burns and Catherine Cavanaugh] on June 5, 1900); 5 & 6. Mary/Mariam (b. April 1879) {New York Birth records show TWO (2) Mariams. The first- Mariam Fredericam b. November 27, 1872, c. December 22, 1872; the second, Mariam (went by Mary, no middle name) b. April 24, 1879, c. June 1, 1879}; 7. Fredricum Josephum (b. January 17, 1882, c. January 22, 1882); 8. Thomas/Thomam (b. March 1885, c. April 5, 1885); and 9. Elizabetham Marie (b. October 25, 1888, c. November 18, 1888, m. to Edward Joseph Mondor [son of John B. Mondor and Maria Kelly] on May 8, 1916). SOURCE: All data above should be considered UNVERIFIED. It was culled from US Census records for Pennsylvania and New York from 1850 to 1930, and New York State Birth records. All items found by me at familysearch.org. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Thank you so much Diane. I just found on the South Mayo Family Research Centre that they have an huge amount of information! I will be in research heaven! They have church records dating back to 1794! I am so excited to be going there! Kathy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: coffmanfamilytree Surnames: Durkin Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.may.general/8189.2.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi There!! I think your Grandfather William's sister Mary Ann (b. November 25, 1861) is my Great Great Grandmother. Our data seems to match except that I have Thomas, Mariah and their children John and Margaret living in Stroudsburg, PA in 1860. I have tracked "a" Thomas and Mariah from 1830 to 1920 and I am pretty sure they're mine.... please let me know if you would like to exchange information to find out if we are tracking the same line and could share info! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Thank you so much for your response. I'll keep this information to help me out when I get to the South Mayo Family Centre. Many, many thanks! Kathy