Hi Paul, Yes, my grandmother was Mary Gertrude Creamer, born 1868 in Bathurst, New Brunswick, Canada. Her parents were William Creamer, born 1820 in Co. Longford, and Mary Tamlyn. She was known all her life as "Minnie." She was the last of 9 children, so I suspect they were running out of names, and picked up "Gertrude" from a slightly distant relative or in-law (or movie star). You're right, the name is a bit unusual and could give us some new clues. Stay in touch. Dave Myers At 06:09 AM 9/6/2004, you wrote: >Hi Dave, >I noticed the name Gertrude in your family. I have a Gertrude E. Byrne born >in Longford but I haven't as yet been able to tie her to anyone on the >list. I >think her father was Patrick Byrne. Her brother was John Byrne who moved to >the Birmingham area of England. >It's a long shot but there may be a connection as there are not too many >Gertrude first names coming from Longford as I know. >If anyone else on the list has a Gertrude from Longford in there family name >between before1880, would you be kind enough to drop me a line. >[email protected] > >All the Best, Paul Broughton > > >==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== >~An old broom knows the dirty corners best.~